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I'm really happy for this guy I've never heard of announcing he is a homosexual.
Wow! I feel so great about myself now!
Wow! I feel so great about myself now!
I wouldn't want any player to think that way or be dumb enough to say it, but I suspect that you'd have a hard time fielding a competitive team in most sports without some player that are homophobic to some degree.Not a "little slip up" in my mind. The Twins Cities has a very large gay community and I'm excited and optimistic for not only my friends and family this directly affects but for our country as a whole.One little slip up and you pass judgement on a guy?Awesome...really hope the pro players who are bashing him get earfuls from their fans and fines from the league...didn't Kobe recently get fined for an anti-gay remark? Really happy the Vikings didn't end up with Wallace...hopefully Greg Jennings willingness to leave didn't have anything to do with sexual orientation!
I'd say you must be perfect but you live in Minneapolis so I know that isn't the case.![]()
Your defending him says a heck of a lot more about you than my judgement does about me...have a great day friend, sorry if this news is endangering your way of life.
What's funny is that was probably the most coherent post of his that I've ever read.Too many people in here aren't familiar with the greatness that is SWC. Suggesting he use punctuation? Really?
How am I defending him?Not a "little slip up" in my mind. The Twins Cities has a very large gay community and I'm excited and optimistic for not only my friends and family this directly affects but for our country as a whole.One little slip up and you pass judgement on a guy?Awesome...really hope the pro players who are bashing him get earfuls from their fans and fines from the league...didn't Kobe recently get fined for an anti-gay remark? Really happy the Vikings didn't end up with Wallace...hopefully Greg Jennings willingness to leave didn't have anything to do with sexual orientation!
I'd say you must be perfect but you live in Minneapolis so I know that isn't the case.![]()
Your defending him says a heck of a lot more about you than my judgement does about me...have a great day friend, sorry if this news is endangering your way of life.
Care to explain this comment?Militant pro gay athlete posse lives here.
Didn't think it needed explanation. It was a joke about the sensitive majority in this thread who are taking many ridiculous posts way too seriously.Care to explain this comment?Militant pro gay athlete posse lives here.
Oh, I completely agree. Homophobic and ignorant beliefs likely run much stronger in the world of professional sports than they do in the general public. It's asking too much for everyone to understand and be ok with it today, but we are getting there. I just don't want the money I'm spending on my local teams to support players who are choosing to stand up against equality and making it harder for the world to continue moving forward with their homophobic statements.I wouldn't want any player to think that way or be dumb enough to say it, but I suspect that you'd have a hard time fielding a competitive team in most sports without some player that are homophobic to some degree.Not a "little slip up" in my mind. The Twins Cities has a very large gay community and I'm excited and optimistic for not only my friends and family this directly affects but for our country as a whole.One little slip up and you pass judgement on a guy?Awesome...really hope the pro players who are bashing him get earfuls from their fans and fines from the league...didn't Kobe recently get fined for an anti-gay remark? Really happy the Vikings didn't end up with Wallace...hopefully Greg Jennings willingness to leave didn't have anything to do with sexual orientation!
I'd say you must be perfect but you live in Minneapolis so I know that isn't the case.![]()
Your defending him says a heck of a lot more about you than my judgement does about me...have a great day friend, sorry if this news is endangering your way of life.
I'd love to see the world get to a point where that's not the case, but it's probably not going to happen any time soon.
SWC is the Emo Phillips of the FFA. He was hot for a short time but its not the 80s any more.Too many people in here aren't familiar with the greatness that is SWC. Suggesting he use punctuation? Really?![]()
Sorry guy, I'm not going to go back and forth and taint this thread with juvenile questions and statements like these. Hope your day gets better...How am I defending him?Not a "little slip up" in my mind. The Twins Cities has a very large gay community and I'm excited and optimistic for not only my friends and family this directly affects but for our country as a whole.One little slip up and you pass judgement on a guy?Awesome...really hope the pro players who are bashing him get earfuls from their fans and fines from the league...didn't Kobe recently get fined for an anti-gay remark? Really happy the Vikings didn't end up with Wallace...hopefully Greg Jennings willingness to leave didn't have anything to do with sexual orientation!
I'd say you must be perfect but you live in Minneapolis so I know that isn't the case.![]()
Your defending him says a heck of a lot more about you than my judgement does about me...have a great day friend, sorry if this news is endangering your way of life.
Do you despise Adrian Peterson because he drives bat f'ing crazy down Minnesota roads/highways endangering innocent people's lives in the process?
Nice work judging me too, looking good.
i guess we should have a bunch of jokes about black people then and we can make all sorts of backhanded comments about them and then you can come in to that thread and say that people are taking them to serious and it is ok to make racist jokes see the thing is that hate is hate and the only difference between hate talk to blacks and hate to gays is that it is still for some reason ok social wize to bash gays well i may be old and i may have missed a lot of ships in my day but i am on board with stopping bigotry towards gays because frankly it is the right thing to do so bam thats one more lesson free of charge from the old swcer take that to the bank brochachoDidn't think it needed explanation. It was a joke about the sensitive majority in this thread who are taking many ridiculous posts way too seriously.Care to explain this comment?Militant pro gay athlete posse lives here.
Completely agree with you but just warn against judging people based on mistakes. Everyone makes them and it doesn't necessarily mean they are bad people.jason12vb said:Sorry guy, I'm not going to go back and forth and taint this thread with juvenile questions and statements like these. Hope your day gets better...scrumptrulescent said:How am I defending him?jason12vb said:Not a "little slip up" in my mind. The Twins Cities has a very large gay community and I'm excited and optimistic for not only my friends and family this directly affects but for our country as a whole.scrumptrulescent said:One little slip up and you pass judgement on a guy?jason12vb said:Awesome...really hope the pro players who are bashing him get earfuls from their fans and fines from the league...didn't Kobe recently get fined for an anti-gay remark? Really happy the Vikings didn't end up with Wallace...hopefully Greg Jennings willingness to leave didn't have anything to do with sexual orientation!
I'd say you must be perfect but you live in Minneapolis so I know that isn't the case.![]()
Your defending him says a heck of a lot more about you than my judgement does about me...have a great day friend, sorry if this news is endangering your way of life.
Do you despise Adrian Peterson because he drives bat f'ing crazy down Minnesota roads/highways endangering innocent people's lives in the process?
Nice work judging me too, looking good.
jason12vb said:Awesome...really hope the pro players who are bashing him get earfuls from their fans and fines from the league...didn't Kobe recently get fined for an anti-gay remark? Really happy the Vikings didn't end up with Wallace...hopefully Greg Jennings willingness to leave didn't have anything to do with sexual orientation!
Look at the jokes in the laxative thread. They made me chuckle. So what. Stop being so sensitive.SWC said:i guess we should have a bunch of jokes about black people then and we can make all sorts of backhanded comments about them and then you can come in to that thread and say that people are taking them to serious and it is ok to make racist jokes see the thing is that hate is hate and the only difference between hate talk to blacks and hate to gays is that it is still for some reason ok social wize to bash gays well i may be old and i may have missed a lot of ships in my day but i am on board with stopping bigotry towards gays because frankly it is the right thing to do so bam thats one more lesson free of charge from the old swcer take that to the bank brochachoscrumptrulescent said:Didn't think it needed explanation. It was a joke about the sensitive majority in this thread who are taking many ridiculous posts way too seriously.badmojo1006 said:Care to explain this comment?scrumptrulescent said:Militant pro gay athlete posse lives here.
You should quote him better, he said quite a bit more than that, said nothing about social issues, and solely stated that, according to his beliefs and what he reads in the Bible, one cannot be a Christian and living a lifestyle that is "open rebellion" to God whether that be homosexual sex, heterosexual sex outside of marriage, lying, cheating, stealing, murder, theft, or anything else.
:greatposting:SWC said:i guess we should have a bunch of jokes about black people then and we can make all sorts of backhanded comments about them and then you can come in to that thread and say that people are taking them to serious and it is ok to make racist jokes see the thing is that hate is hate and the only difference between hate talk to blacks and hate to gays is that it is still for some reason ok social wize to bash gays well i may be old and i may have missed a lot of ships in my day but i am on board with stopping bigotry towards gays because frankly it is the right thing to do so bam thats one more lesson free of charge from the old swcer take that to the bank brochachoscrumptrulescent said:Didn't think it needed explanation. It was a joke about the sensitive majority in this thread who are taking many ridiculous posts way too seriously.badmojo1006 said:Care to explain this comment?scrumptrulescent said:Militant pro gay athlete posse lives here.
I'LL BET HE'S NOT EVEN REALLY GAY!!!GordonGekko said:Congrats to him?randall146 said:Congrats to him. Just another step in the right direction. I really hope he gets signed somewhere so others aren't even more scared to come out. Everyday "heroes" (active pro athletes) coming out is going to be huge in eliminating bigotry.
This is the difference between "perception" and "truth" and how it's used in the media.
Digging a little deeper, Jason Collins, despite being a Stanford graduate and playing nearly 14 seasons in the NBA, is like a lot of pro athletes near the end of their career - near broke to rumblings out there. Also what I'm hearing is he is seen as a non entity as a potential broadcaster, local or national, analyst or coach, at the pro or college level. It's not easy to get into coaching, even for former pros. Esp for big men.
What Jason Collins has done is set himself very nicely for retirement from the league.
David Stern has no choice now, but to offer Collins some kind of league job as a director of some type of outreach program for the NBA or for diversity or unity or media relations or whatever. Because if Collins doesn't get signed with another team and is broke, here are his two main options. Write a tell all book, about everything he's seen and done and known in the NBA. You think Jason Kidd wants the mainstream to know that he carpetbombed Dallas and NJ with STDs for years? When you see the C on Kidd's jersey, it stands for Captain Valtrex. You think Bill Walton wants to deal with the risk of facing questions while he's broadcasting about his gay son, Luke Walton, because Collins outed him in a book? Do you think anyone wants Collins to talk about how the draft is rigged, the way the refs push teams forward or back to extend playoff series and enable better ratings matchups for deep in the playoffs? The other option is to unleash the powerful gay lobby. Which will hammer every corporation who sponsors the NBA and demand that they pressure Stern to hire more gays in the league administration. This is how Martyr lobbyists work - Give us money and give us jobs and hire the "consultants" we promote and develop for your league or business or we will tell everyone you do business with that you hate gays and that everyone we can reach, we will tell them not to do business with you or buy your product or use your service and we will turn the liberal feminist media on you.
Collins now gets a book deal. Collins now, despite being a relatively average to middling player is eligible to speak on the motivational speaking circuit. Collins will get cameras wherever he goes and he can cash in the profit of it. Collin's jerseys will now sell better. He now has carte blanche access to every other openly gay celebrity in any of the arts or mediums. He's now Oprah interview eligible.
Why say it now after all this time? Because it's worth millions upon millions of dollars. Then people will ask, why would a millionaire athlete need anymore millions? The simple answer is he doesn't have millions anymore from being an athlete.
When Joachim Noah, center for the Bulls and Kobe Bryant, shooting guard of the Lakers, made disparging gay remarks caught during games and on camera, both were fined in the tens of thousands of dollars. But the COST to the entire NBA, the Lakers, the Bulls racked up into the millions. Lobbyist swept in quiety and demanded more jobs, more PSAs, more donations to this group, more attention to this issue or that issue, more access to what the league and those franchises have in terms of local and national politics. This is why the gay lobby is very powerful. It extorts, entrenches and then seeks to propagate.
There's truth and then there's perception. I said this last football season with Tim Tebow and the Jets and Creative Artist Agency, that his relationship with Camilla Belle was a CAA setup, and that the conflict with Tebow, the Jets and Woody Johnson was in part due to a rift with CAA and Tebow's other agency. In sports, very few people want to look deeper. There are major power players not near the surface who have a huge impact on the game, any pro game and sport.
Jason Collins is no hero. Not that the media could say any differently if they want to keep their jobs. He's just a guy cashing in on the coat tails of a lobby with big fists, big reach and a hard left hook.
I suspect the usual suspects with show up and use the typical ad hominem defense that Old Man Gekko must be a gay hater. Not true. I hate everyone equally in this world. And there's plenty of reason to hate people just for their lack of character and their personalities than to even bother getting to the rest of them. As I always say, time will tell. I said at the end of last football season, even before the playoffs, that EJ Manuel would be a riser and push into the first round. I think a few people chuckled at me. He was the only QB1 taken in the first round. I told people to pick up Cousins and be prepared to sit RG3 an hour before his team mates were briefed that he was sitting, some people laughed. They laughed at me telling them to sell high right up until Shanahan ran him into the ground Dusty Baker style. I said Darius Reynaud would weaponize and to keep eyes on. During Week 17, championship week for many of you, he scored two return touchdowns. Time will tell, it always does.
Jason Collins is just a profiteer, he's no Gandhi for the gay movement. Some of you will realize that, and will stop burning incense and sacrificing fatted cows at his altar as soon as his book deal gets announced.
Yes, which is why gay athletes around the globe keep leaping forward to come out of the closet.GordonGekko said:Congrats to him?randall146 said:Congrats to him. Just another step in the right direction. I really hope he gets signed somewhere so others aren't even more scared to come out. Everyday "heroes" (active pro athletes) coming out is going to be huge in eliminating bigotry.
This is the difference between "perception" and "truth" and how it's used in the media.
Digging a little deeper, Jason Collins, despite being a Stanford graduate and playing nearly 14 seasons in the NBA, is like a lot of pro athletes near the end of their career - near broke to rumblings out there. Also what I'm hearing is he is seen as a non entity as a potential broadcaster, local or national, analyst or coach, at the pro or college level. It's not easy to get into coaching, even for former pros. Esp for big men.
What Jason Collins has done is set himself very nicely for retirement from the league.
David Stern has no choice now, but to offer Collins some kind of league job as a director of some type of outreach program for the NBA or for diversity or unity or media relations or whatever. Because if Collins doesn't get signed with another team and is broke, here are his two main options. Write a tell all book, about everything he's seen and done and known in the NBA. You think Jason Kidd wants the mainstream to know that he carpetbombed Dallas and NJ with STDs for years? When you see the C on Kidd's jersey, it stands for Captain Valtrex. You think Bill Walton wants to deal with the risk of facing questions while he's broadcasting about his gay son, Luke Walton, because Collins outed him in a book? Do you think anyone wants Collins to talk about how the draft is rigged, the way the refs push teams forward or back to extend playoff series and enable better ratings matchups for deep in the playoffs? The other option is to unleash the powerful gay lobby. Which will hammer every corporation who sponsors the NBA and demand that they pressure Stern to hire more gays in the league administration. This is how Martyr lobbyists work - Give us money and give us jobs and hire the "consultants" we promote and develop for your league or business or we will tell everyone you do business with that you hate gays and that everyone we can reach, we will tell them not to do business with you or buy your product or use your service and we will turn the liberal feminist media on you.
Collins now gets a book deal. Collins now, despite being a relatively average to middling player is eligible to speak on the motivational speaking circuit. Collins will get cameras wherever he goes and he can cash in the profit of it. Collin's jerseys will now sell better. He now has carte blanche access to every other openly gay celebrity in any of the arts or mediums. He's now Oprah interview eligible.
Why say it now after all this time? Because it's worth millions upon millions of dollars. Then people will ask, why would a millionaire athlete need anymore millions? The simple answer is he doesn't have millions anymore from being an athlete.
When Joachim Noah, center for the Bulls and Kobe Bryant, shooting guard of the Lakers, made disparging gay remarks caught during games and on camera, both were fined in the tens of thousands of dollars. But the COST to the entire NBA, the Lakers, the Bulls racked up into the millions. Lobbyist swept in quiety and demanded more jobs, more PSAs, more donations to this group, more attention to this issue or that issue, more access to what the league and those franchises have in terms of local and national politics. This is why the gay lobby is very powerful. It extorts, entrenches and then seeks to propagate.
There's truth and then there's perception. I said this last football season with Tim Tebow and the Jets and Creative Artist Agency, that his relationship with Camilla Belle was a CAA setup, and that the conflict with Tebow, the Jets and Woody Johnson was in part due to a rift with CAA and Tebow's other agency. In sports, very few people want to look deeper. There are major power players not near the surface who have a huge impact on the game, any pro game and sport.
Jason Collins is no hero. Not that the media could say any differently if they want to keep their jobs. He's just a guy cashing in on the coat tails of a lobby with big fists, big reach and a hard left hook.
I suspect the usual suspects with show up and use the typical ad hominem defense that Old Man Gekko must be a gay hater. Not true. I hate everyone equally in this world. And there's plenty of reason to hate people just for their lack of character and their personalities than to even bother getting to the rest of them. As I always say, time will tell. I said at the end of last football season, even before the playoffs, that EJ Manuel would be a riser and push into the first round. I think a few people chuckled at me. He was the only QB1 taken in the first round. I told people to pick up Cousins and be prepared to sit RG3 an hour before his team mates were briefed that he was sitting, some people laughed. They laughed at me telling them to sell high right up until Shanahan ran him into the ground Dusty Baker style. I said Darius Reynaud would weaponize and to keep eyes on. During Week 17, championship week for many of you, he scored two return touchdowns. Time will tell, it always does.
Jason Collins is just a profiteer, he's no Gandhi for the gay movement. Some of you will realize that, and will stop burning incense and sacrificing fatted cows at his altar as soon as his book deal gets announced.
your response to my protesting bigotry and racism is to honestly compare the issue to laxative jokes man come on grow up brohan i am sure you are all young and hip and i work with younger guys and i know its cool to not believe in any thing or whatever well hell here is one for you some day you are going to look back and realize that you were at a place when there was an issue and there were two ways one that was the right way and one that was the look the other way and just say oh you are being to sensitive but let me tell you this in a few years you are going to have to lie down every night and wish that you had stood up for those that needed standing up for when it counted and when you could have mattered and you will realize that you blew it and that is a hell of a thing to have to sleep on brohan for some people it was racism or vietnam or womens rights or any other bunch of stuff but believe me this is one of those things and you only get so many of them in your life and when you have the chance you need to make it count so do not just joke it off and try to be the coolest guy in the room because hey great you are cool but you are missing the boat take that to the truth bank brohanLook at the jokes in the laxative thread. They made me chuckle. So what. Stop being so sensitive.SWC said:i guess we should have a bunch of jokes about black people then and we can make all sorts of backhanded comments about them and then you can come in to that thread and say that people are taking them to serious and it is ok to make racist jokes see the thing is that hate is hate and the only difference between hate talk to blacks and hate to gays is that it is still for some reason ok social wize to bash gays well i may be old and i may have missed a lot of ships in my day but i am on board with stopping bigotry towards gays because frankly it is the right thing to do so bam thats one more lesson free of charge from the old swcer take that to the bank brochachoscrumptrulescent said:Didn't think it needed explanation. It was a joke about the sensitive majority in this thread who are taking many ridiculous posts way too seriously.badmojo1006 said:Care to explain this comment?scrumptrulescent said:Militant pro gay athlete posse lives here.
There is such a thing as going PC overboard you know?
While that is a good thing to say, I doubt he treats adultery and sex outside of marriage with the same dislike as what he said about gays.You should quote him better, he said quite a bit more than that, said nothing about social issues, and solely stated that, according to his beliefs and what he reads in the Bible, one cannot be a Christian and living a lifestyle that is "open rebellion" to God whether that be homosexual sex, heterosexual sex outside of marriage, lying, cheating, stealing, murder, theft, or anything else.
Yes, but do we really want to go to the place where we just assume whatever we want to about people even though we have no evidence and they are saying something different?While that is a good thing to say, I doubt he treats adultery and sex outside of marriage with the same dislike as what he said about gays.You should quote him better, he said quite a bit more than that, said nothing about social issues, and solely stated that, according to his beliefs and what he reads in the Bible, one cannot be a Christian and living a lifestyle that is "open rebellion" to God whether that be homosexual sex, heterosexual sex outside of marriage, lying, cheating, stealing, murder, theft, or anything else.
Says what about what? Wallace made a dumb comment. But there was nothing hateful about it.jason12vb said:Not a "little slip up" in my mind. The Twins Cities has a very large gay community and I'm excited and optimistic for not only my friends and family this directly affects but for our country as a whole.scrumptrulescent said:One little slip up and you pass judgement on a guy?jason12vb said:Awesome...really hope the pro players who are bashing him get earfuls from their fans and fines from the league...didn't Kobe recently get fined for an anti-gay remark? Really happy the Vikings didn't end up with Wallace...hopefully Greg Jennings willingness to leave didn't have anything to do with sexual orientation!
I'd say you must be perfect but you live in Minneapolis so I know that isn't the case.![]()
Your defending him says a heck of a lot more about you than my judgement does about me...have a great day friend, sorry if this news is endangering your way of life.
What does this paragraph have to do with Jason Collins and his attempt to blackmail the league?GordonGekko said:I suspect the usual suspects with show up and use the typical ad hominem defense that Old Man Gekko must be a gay hater. Not true. I hate everyone equally in this world. And there's plenty of reason to hate people just for their lack of character and their personalities than to even bother getting to the rest of them. As I always say, time will tell. I said at the end of last football season, even before the playoffs, that EJ Manuel would be a riser and push into the first round. I think a few people chuckled at me. He was the only QB1 taken in the first round. I told people to pick up Cousins and be prepared to sit RG3 an hour before his team mates were briefed that he was sitting, some people laughed. They laughed at me telling them to sell high right up until Shanahan ran him into the ground Dusty Baker style. I said Darius Reynaud would weaponize and to keep eyes on. During Week 17, championship week for many of you, he scored two return touchdowns. Time will tell, it always does.randall146 said:Congrats to him. Just another step in the right direction. I really hope he gets signed somewhere so others aren't even more scared to come out. Everyday "heroes" (active pro athletes) coming out is going to be huge in eliminating bigotry.
My point is this, do you think that Chris Broussard would have the balls to tell Kobe Bryant on national TV that he was a sinner when he was caught cheating on wife and getting accused of rape.Yes, but do we really want to go to the place where we just assume whatever we want to about people even though we have no evidence and they are saying something different?While that is a good thing to say, I doubt he treats adultery and sex outside of marriage with the same dislike as what he said about gays.You should quote him better, he said quite a bit more than that, said nothing about social issues, and solely stated that, according to his beliefs and what he reads in the Bible, one cannot be a Christian and living a lifestyle that is "open rebellion" to God whether that be homosexual sex, heterosexual sex outside of marriage, lying, cheating, stealing, murder, theft, or anything else.
Because at that point, what's the point of "truth" even existing?
If he says he sees it as all the same, do we have a choice but to take him at his word until he shows differently?
also, what do you mean by "what he said about gays"? That it is open rebellion to God? Because in the link he outright says a whole list of other things.
This is my issue with the "Christian" opposition to homosexuality. Far right "Christian" Republicans have no problem supporting a people that deny the existence of Jesus Christ as lord and savior, but they will go to the ditch over gay people wanting rights? Doesn't make sense.While that is a good thing to say, I doubt he treats adultery and sex outside of marriage with the same dislike as what he said about gays.You should quote him better, he said quite a bit more than that, said nothing about social issues, and solely stated that, according to his beliefs and what he reads in the Bible, one cannot be a Christian and living a lifestyle that is "open rebellion" to God whether that be homosexual sex, heterosexual sex outside of marriage, lying, cheating, stealing, murder, theft, or anything else.
Do Christians equate loving another human being to murder, theft, etc?You should quote him better, he said quite a bit more than that, said nothing about social issues, and solely stated that, according to his beliefs and what he reads in the Bible, one cannot be a Christian and living a lifestyle that is "open rebellion" to God whether that be homosexual sex, heterosexual sex outside of marriage, lying, cheating, stealing, murder, theft, or anything else.
Thank god we have you here to tell us what's really going on.scrumptrulescent said:Didn't think it needed explanation. It was a joke about the sensitive majority in this thread who are taking many ridiculous posts way too seriously.badmojo1006 said:Care to explain this comment?scrumptrulescent said:Militant pro gay athlete posse lives here.
It's pretty impressive how bad Jason Collins was statistically last year.Cliff Clavin said:Or if he wasn't one of the worst players in the history of the league.Juxtatarot said:I'm not sure this is that big of a story. It would be if he were still under contract.D-Day said:Wow, ESPN.com is still headlining the Tebow story over this story.
Yup. He must be a helluva good guy to have around the locker room and mentoring younger players. He has always been 100% replaceable skill-wise but always managed to find a job. Good for him to make a career out of what he had.It's pretty impressive how bad Jason Collins was statistically last year.Cliff Clavin said:Or if he wasn't one of the worst players in the history of the league.Juxtatarot said:I'm not sure this is that big of a story. It would be if he were still under contract.D-Day said:Wow, ESPN.com is still headlining the Tebow story over this story.
He had a PER of 3.0. He shot 31 percent from the floor. He had a TRB% of 9.2, which means he grabs 9.2 percent of all available rebounds while he's on the floor. That makes him a below average rebounder, not just compared to other centers, but measured against all players.
I know statistics don't tell the whole story, especially when it comes to defensive-minded post players. But his numbers are awful even when compared to other oafs.
shader said:I don't think the attention on Tebow is primarily due to his religious views. I think it's due to his unbelievable college career and the absolutely amazing (weird but still amazing) season he had when he was the starter.timschochet said:The Tebow story has much less to do with sports than this one does. If Tim Tebow wasn't glorified by religious Christians in this country who see him as some sort of representative, he would not have been mentioned this morning. Back up quarterbacks get cut all the time.shader said:Probably because the Tebow story has something to do with sports. This doesn't.D-Day said:Wow, ESPN.com is still headlining the Tebow story over this story.
Except he explicitely compares homosexual sex to heterosexaul sex outside of marriage. We can only go on what he says. It's hard to take issue with what he said in the interview.While that is a good thing to say, I doubt he treats adultery and sex outside of marriage with the same dislike as what he said about gays.You should quote him better, he said quite a bit more than that, said nothing about social issues, and solely stated that, according to his beliefs and what he reads in the Bible, one cannot be a Christian and living a lifestyle that is "open rebellion" to God whether that be homosexual sex, heterosexual sex outside of marriage, lying, cheating, stealing, murder, theft, or anything else.
Because it IS a big deal. It's awesome that most people are shrugging their shoulders and moving on. But it's a big deal to be the first to come out and doing it this way lets him map out the conversation a bit instead of a short statement on twitter where comments and backlash can attach to the original article.It's funny -- I'm just a hair turned off by the "look at me" aspect of his article. Why not just say "yup, I'm gay," and leaving it at that?
I'm sure he would say 100% of all people are sinners.And how the hell can you have an issues with heterosexual people like Chris Broussard mentions and work for ESPN in the first place. He must be the most judgmental looking down on person in that building because 90% of the people in Bristol are sinners according to his definition of the bible.
I can rarely understand a thing you say SWC, but on this I have to agree with what's at the heart of your comment.SWC said:actually all star they are not funny at all and to all the super awesome internet tough guys who can make fun of him here without putting your name up i bet if you get in front of him you do not say a thing to him remember he is the seven foot guy who could probably snap you like a twig unless the pizza rolls have made your belly full of jelly which is likely so just stop cripes the internet has kept the jerk store in business for a lot of years but you guys take the cake and talk about a whole lot of hat but not cattle that describes the lot of you so i say good day to you and for those that are with me keep on keepin on and take it to the bank riders of brohan and that is one to grow on from the old swcerzed2283 said:Actually, they are.Juxtatarot said:The gay jokes in here really aren't funny.
Too bad he won't be in the league next year.
I was born left handed but changed to right handed. I felt it was the better thing for me.AAABatteries said:No, I'm right-handed.Henry Ford said:Are you born left-handed?AAABatteries said:I thought about that - I wonder if that will start the whole "Are you born gay?" conversation.shadyridr said:He has a twin brother too.
There's sinners everywhere. Working at espn doesn't mean he endorses his coworkers sins.And how the hell can you have an issues with heterosexual people like Chris Broussard mentions and work for ESPN in the first place. He must be the most judgmental looking down on person in that building because 90% of the people in Bristol are sinners according to his definition of the bible.