Hang 10
Footballguy
Why would he be done?
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PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Because of the things he said as a public representative of ESPN
Kev4029
Footballguy
That and he is the worst analyst/insider type they have on the entire network. No idea how he has a job to begin with.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Did he say something that reflects poorly on ESPN?
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Yes
Hang 10
Footballguy
Yeah, I already knew what he said and he was pretty much spot on. Maybe there's a separation of religion of at espn that I don't know about but otherwise I don't think he should be fired for saying what he believes.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
Tebow is just a rare individual. He exudes leadership and was one of the most popular college athletes in history. Plus, his first year there wasn't a ton of mania. The real mania started when he started winning games in ways that just blew people's minds.McGarnicle said:
Yes, the evangelical stuff helped, but not much. I personally love Tebow, am a huge fan, and love following his career. But is has absolutely NOTHING to do with his religious beliefs. In fact, he believes in many things I personally think are awful.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
So if Colin Cowherd comes out in the morning and says "I believe the real problem with this country is black people" he shouldn't get fired because that's what he believes?People get fired all the time for saying what they believe while representing a company. Especially in the media.
matuski
Footballguy
dgreen
Footballguy
Did Broussard say he believes the real problem with this country is gay people?
Hang 10
Footballguy
Well, saying something that's considered racist is a big no no at ESPN, so no, I'd say he'd probably be in some trouble if he went there. But I don't consider what Broussard said is remotely comparable. I find the irony rich that the same people that want to throw a parade for Collins for coming out about his life style choice, want Broussard to be fired for coming out with his Christian beliefs. YAY TOLERANCE!
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Other than the idiocy of tweeting or saying publicly anything about a hot button issue, there's really nothing offensive about that tweet. He doesn't get why guys like guys. Not a big deal really.the moops said:
Kev4029
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I suppose you could say I'm one of the people who "want to throw a parade for Collins for coming out", but I don't think Broussard should be fired - and I'd imagine many (if not most) don't. What Broussard said isn't mean-spirited or fire-worthy. I think it's a bit classless and horrible timing, though, and I'll certainly take whatever he says going forward with a grain of salt.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Holy moly this new forums blows.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Its not for him to say what another person should be attracted to. Or how they should act sexually with other consenting adults.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Folks in the media sure hope so. They're hoping the next gay will be younger and better at sports.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Horrible timing? Should he have brought this up during the Heat's winning streak?I suppose you could say I'm one of the people who "want to throw a parade for Collins for coming out", but I don't think Broussard should be fired - and I'd imagine many (if not most) don't. What Broussard said isn't mean-spirited or fire-worthy. I think it's a bit classless and horrible timing, though, and I'll certainly take whatever he says going forward with a grain of salt.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Yeah, so folks like this cant quit being attacked just for being themselves.
Education and enlightenment crushes ignorance.
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
I don't see a huge problem with Broussard's comments.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's ludicrous and of course, a dumb thing to say.
But he was discussing homosexuality as it relates to his view of his religion. His only real derogatory comment was essentially that he didn't think unrepentant homosexuals can be considered Christians. As far as I know, that's a fairly common view amongst Christians.
We live in a society where people generally accept Christianity as being true and are fine with public figures believing in this stuff, so I think we've just got to accept these sorts of comments.
But if ESPN wants to fire him for talking about things that are just better off not discussed publicly, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
Or if ESPN takes the position of, "Hey, Chris, it's none of your ####### business what religion a jouneyman NBA center truly belongs to" I could see that too.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's ludicrous and of course, a dumb thing to say.
But he was discussing homosexuality as it relates to his view of his religion. His only real derogatory comment was essentially that he didn't think unrepentant homosexuals can be considered Christians. As far as I know, that's a fairly common view amongst Christians.
We live in a society where people generally accept Christianity as being true and are fine with public figures believing in this stuff, so I think we've just got to accept these sorts of comments.
But if ESPN wants to fire him for talking about things that are just better off not discussed publicly, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
Or if ESPN takes the position of, "Hey, Chris, it's none of your ####### business what religion a jouneyman NBA center truly belongs to" I could see that too.
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PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I wanted Broussard fired yesterday because he's terrible.
As far as this issue goes though, saying "I dont believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle" is hate speech and yes I do think he should be fired for it.
As far as this issue goes though, saying "I dont believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle" is hate speech and yes I do think he should be fired for it.
MacArtist down?I wonder if Joe is ready for a FBG to come out in his own thread?
Scuttlebutt is we have a couple here. One tried starting a 'coming out' thread to open up some conversation, but it was deleted.
Hang 10
Footballguy
It's not really a controversial statement to believe if you're unrepentant and living in sin, you can't be a Christian.Are you a Christian? Why do you care what Christians consider sins?
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Only if he ignores Jesus' teachings. Which wouldn't make anyone much of a Christian. Its not for anyone to judge.
SWC
Bromigo
covering your intolerance in a blanket of religion does not make it better brohan hey are you are a racist why do you care what racists consider being the wrong color a sin hey are you a terrorist militant so why do you care what they consider unrelegous and worthy of a bombing see the thing is that some things are wrong and we have watched folks through the years try to cover up segregation and denying women rights and racism and every other thing that nation and church eventually outgrew as an excuse so hey at least try to come up with a new cover story all right because that one has been played out take that to the bank brohans
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
Yeah, God is the judge. That doesn't mean we can't recognize sin.
jonessed
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He doesnt even get to judge who is a sinner and who is sinning. He knows nothing of Gods relationship with anyone else, nothing. And that goes for everyone.
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
I was so waiting for the first dingdong who decides they want to show how little they understand the term tolerance by throwing it back. Kudos, you've made my day complete.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Pretty good post. He was smart enough to couch non-homosexual sins in with his judgment. He may be "wrong" on a few things such as: all people are sinners and can continue to sin and still be Christians, or the fact that he hasn't made the same speech about adulterers and all the other sinners abounding in the sports world. THe bolded is the core of this though. Should any ESPN commentator be making such arguable remarks and bring on the possibly unjustified wrath of the emotional public?
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I don't consider Broussard's comments hate speech, and Broussard's comments fit with my interpretation of Christianity. I don't see a problem with Broussard saying what he said privately. From what I'd think the way many Christians view Chrisitianty is, I'd assume he's in the vast majority in his belief. However, I think he should be fired. As you sort of allude, we shouldn't concern ourselves with the beliefs of others. Taking the benign view of Brousssard's comments, he's waxing poetical about Collins' religion. He should be fired because that's none of his concern as a sports columnist.
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AAABatteries
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Flipper or Fliphim?
BigSteelThrill
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not a religious person, but I'd think for a lot of religious people, calling them out in their religion or calling them some sort of religious fraud is about as incendiary as it gets.
I have no idea if Collins is religious or considers himself a Christian, but if he did, Broussard's comments might be terribly offensive.
For a company that wouldn't let Simmons interview Obama, I think firing seems well in order here.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Back in the early days of celebrating Internet weirdness, around the turn of the century, there was a Gizmodo or some other site that had the ten weirdest websites list. One of them was a guy who was in love with dolphins and chronicled his fantasies and attempts at mating with dolphins. At the time, there was this ex-junkie screwball boom operator who actually ran a retreat that went on trips to find dolphins, swim with them, and "resonate" with them. She believed the sonar they sent out was at a frequency that helped align human minds. She did not approve of trying to screw one. Just an odd memory...
Hang 10
Footballguy
That says you need to ask Jesus to forgive your sins? There's quite a few of those but I'm sure you're not really interested in reading all of them.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
In his defense, none of those animals are Christians. Although the Spinnifex Hopping Mouse has been known to say a kind of benediction over its food before supper, so there's hope for them.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
How many times has Broussard felt the need to go on TV and rail against straight guys he knows are cheating on their wives? Fostering children out of wedlock? Skipping out on child support payments? Did he have a lot to say when Kobe was up on a rape charge?
Is this his full-time schtick? Or did he just bust out the sinner stick for the gay guy?
Is this his full-time schtick? Or did he just bust out the sinner stick for the gay guy?
mad sweeney
Footballguy
The louder they say it, the less people will think they are?
McGarnicle
Footballguy
On account of, you stop stickin' it up there, maybe Jesus will forgive you 'n you can avoid all eternal hellfire! By the way, you're my brother in the Lord and I don't judge you or nothin'.
