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Tell Me Why I Should Have Children... (1 Viewer)

Serious question for the 17 guests reading this thread right now. Are you guys ever ashamed of the people who choose to "represent" fftoday in these threads? Or is this just how things are over there? I'm not breaking balls here, I'm being serious. I honestly don't know.

I know there's some good posters here who say they used to post there, and they don't all seem like they're hopped up on their first beer. Is it mostly the young crowd that posts in these cross board threads? If so do you guys notice that after a while, guys kind of grow out of whatever it is that you guys do over there and head over to fbg or reddit or just disappear from the internet? Or is this pretty indicative of day to day life over there?

 
Serious question for the 17 guests reading this thread right now. Are you guys ever ashamed of the people who choose to "represent" fftoday in these threads? Or is this just how things are over there? I'm not breaking balls here, I'm being serious. I honestly don't know.

I know there's some good posters here who say they used to post there, and they don't all seem like they're hopped up on their first beer. Is it mostly the young crowd that posts in these cross board threads? If so do you guys notice that after a while, guys kind of grow out of whatever it is that you guys do over there and head over to fbg or reddit or just disappear from the internet? Or is this pretty indicative of day to day life over there?
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Serious question for the 17 guests reading this thread right now. Are you guys ever ashamed of the people who choose to "represent" fftoday in these threads? Or is this just how things are over there? I'm not breaking balls here, I'm being serious. I honestly don't know.

I know there's some good posters here who say they used to post there, and they don't all seem like they're hopped up on their first beer. Is it mostly the young crowd that posts in these cross board threads? If so do you guys notice that after a while, guys kind of grow out of whatever it is that you guys do over there and head over to fbg or reddit or just disappear from the internet? Or is this pretty indicative of day to day life over there?
Well, as the self-appointed FFT responder, I will say that you are being disingenuous when you say you "aren't breaking balls here.". That's kind of like "no offense but..."Anyway, to your question, I thought that posting that pic was in bad taste and said as much over there. I also sent them to bed without dessert, but honestly I don't have a lot of control over what people post on the internet, and their behavior doesn't impact my self worth.

 
I don't think I'll ever be a parent. I think I'd make a good one, but the desire is not 100% there. My wife is in agreement. Between friends and family there are about 3 or 4 different babies right now that we are "auntie and uncle" too. We absolutely love kids and the time we spend with them but we equally love being able to give them back to their parents at the end of the day.

I don't see this as a selfish decision because I pay a ####load of property taxes going towards education for schools I'll never have kids to send to.

 
I don't think I'll ever be a parent. I think I'd make a good one, but the desire is not 100% there. My wife is in agreement. Between friends and family there are about 3 or 4 different babies right now that we are "auntie and uncle" too. We absolutely love kids and the time we spend with them but we equally love being able to give them back to their parents at the end of the day.

I don't see this as a selfish decision because I pay a ####load of property taxes going towards education for schools I'll never have kids to send to.
You sound way too sane for the internet and tgis thread in particular. Please leave.

 
Serious question for the 17 guests reading this thread right now. Are you guys ever ashamed of the people who choose to "represent" fftoday in these threads? Or is this just how things are over there? I'm not breaking balls here, I'm being serious. I honestly don't know.

I know there's some good posters here who say they used to post there, and they don't all seem like they're hopped up on their first beer. Is it mostly the young crowd that posts in these cross board threads? If so do you guys notice that after a while, guys kind of grow out of whatever it is that you guys do over there and head over to fbg or reddit or just disappear from the internet? Or is this pretty indicative of day to day life over there?
Well, as the self-appointed FFT responder, I will say that you are being disingenuous when you say you "aren't breaking balls here.". That's kind of like "no offense but..."Anyway, to your question, I thought that posting that pic was in bad taste and said as much over there. I also sent them to bed without dessert, but honestly I don't have a lot of control over what people post on the internet, and their behavior doesn't impact my self worth.
I wasn't talking about you at all. You seem like a good guy. Krista's cool and it seems like you're cool with krista so that's enough for me. But you do see what I'm saying about some of the other guys, right?
 
I don't think I'll ever be a parent. I think I'd make a good one, but the desire is not 100% there. My wife is in agreement. Between friends and family there are about 3 or 4 different babies right now that we are "auntie and uncle" too. We absolutely love kids and the time we spend with them but we equally love being able to give them back to their parents at the end of the day.

I don't see this as a selfish decision because I pay a ####load of property taxes going towards education for schools I'll never have kids to send to.
Not saying you should have kids, but in 5 years those parents will be hanging with other parents at soccer practice, not you and your wife. Also, there is usually not 100% knowledge, at least for guys.

 
I don't think I'll ever be a parent. I think I'd make a good one, but the desire is not 100% there. My wife is in agreement. Between friends and family there are about 3 or 4 different babies right now that we are "auntie and uncle" too. We absolutely love kids and the time we spend with them but we equally love being able to give them back to their parents at the end of the day.

I don't see this as a selfish decision because I pay a ####load of property taxes going towards education for schools I'll never have kids to send to.
That's how I had it before (oops) I had my oldest daughter. Obviously, there's not really any going back so you make the best of it, but I am truly happy it happened and I have been all along. Like everyone will tell you there's a bunch of #### that will go down. And it will seriously affect your marriage, no doubt about that, even if you are in perfect unison on having a baby. But it does bring you something nothing else will, and I'm honestly sad for those in my immediate surroundings that I expect will choose not to have kids. There are things they will never be able to experience. Good things. Really good things.

Granted there are people who have kids that should never, ever have been allowed to procreate. But our world doesn't work like that. I just hope that they feel the same way about their children as I do about mine.

 
I don't think I'll ever be a parent. I think I'd make a good one, but the desire is not 100% there. My wife is in agreement. Between friends and family there are about 3 or 4 different babies right now that we are "auntie and uncle" too. We absolutely love kids and the time we spend with them but we equally love being able to give them back to their parents at the end of the day.

I don't see this as a selfish decision because I pay a ####load of property taxes going towards education for schools I'll never have kids to send to.
Not saying you should have kids, but in 5 years those parents will be hanging with other parents at soccer practice, not you and your wife.Also, there is usually not 100% knowledge, at least for guys.
That's ok. During typical soccer season months, my wife and I will be at our Hawaii timeshare sipping Mai Tai's.

DINKS 4 lyfe. :banned:

 
If you are selfish and can't put others needs before your own don't have kids. And by the way there's nothing wrong with that. One of my closest friends decided early on with this wife that they didn't want kids and they have by all accounts a great life. Tons of cash, great careers, beautiful home, travel, etc. No kids, but their dogs are treated like royalty.

Kids are a big sacrifice. And a HUGE responsibility. You are basically responsible for potentially shaping generations to come. F up as a parent and there's a great chance the next few generations will be f'd up too. Raise great kids? Then their chances of following your lead are just as great. Kid's are very expensive. I'm putting 3 through college now. Would I be pretty much done if I hadn't forked out megabucks over their lives? Sure.

Listen to your gut. If it says no kids - by all means go that way happily and without regret. Mine was the opposite. My wife and I always wanted kids, maybe to create the family structure we didn't have. We wouldn't trade a thing. The laughs, memories, family traditions, vacations, etc are worth every sacrifice. And can't wait for grandkids either. But I don't judge people who choose not to have kids. Matter of fact, I applaud them thinking it through and doing what's right for themselves and potential kids. Whatever makes you happy - as long as you don't harm a kid by making the wrong choice.

 
Serious question for the 17 guests reading this thread right now. Are you guys ever ashamed of the people who choose to "represent" fftoday in these threads? Or is this just how things are over there? I'm not breaking balls here, I'm being serious. I honestly don't know.

I know there's some good posters here who say they used to post there, and they don't all seem like they're hopped up on their first beer. Is it mostly the young crowd that posts in these cross board threads? If so do you guys notice that after a while, guys kind of grow out of whatever it is that you guys do over there and head over to fbg or reddit or just disappear from the internet? Or is this pretty indicative of day to day life over there?
posty posts on both boards, so there's that...

 
Find a mamason to take care of the cleaning.
That is the next move but we've only been in our house for a month and a half and I don't trust anyone to truly sanitize it the way I do.
I understand. I would suggest talking to your friends/other women to ask for suggestions. Even with doing that it will take going through a couple/few mamasons before you find someone who can clean to your standards. Having lived in Japan for the last couple of years I have found that Asians are far superior cleaners to anybody I ever used stateside.
OK That's sort of racist. I had a cleaning service that was made up of all white/black women in Philadelphia when I lived in the city that would clean the place better than I would and they got it done in 4 hours.
Oh, my statement certainly wasn't meant to be or to sound racist; it is simply my experience. Hopefully soon I'll find out how the mamasons are in Germany... :thumbup:

 
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I've been busy... sorry. But I just want to report to all of you that I have taken your advice and filed for divorce because my marriage was clearly ####ed up and never should have happened. Because he doesn't do dishes and laundry and #####.

Thanks for enlightening me and making me see I was in an awful marriage.
I assume this is sarcasm. It probably is not grounds for divorce, but it is something that needs to change before having kids with the guy.
Yes. It was sarcasm. I guess this is a forum full of guys and they aren't used to women just #####ing about their husbands. My point wasn't that my husband sucked. My point was that I'm already tired. And I fully know what adding children into the mix would entail.

In my husband's defense here... we live on 10 acres of property and it has been snowing every 3 days in the Philly area and he's gone out every day trying to deal with our huge driveway so we can both get to work. He has chopped a plethora of fire wood for the winter. He takes care of my cat every day. It's not like he's sitting around playing PS3 all day. He literally has no idea how to cook. He can basically throw a piece of meat on a grill pan and that's it. Yes it is mildly annoying to me that I have to cook everything, but at the same time, cooking is my thing. I'm a really good cook, not to brag, but I am. I think I banned him from doing laundry after I saw how he did it. And when it comes to cleaning there is no way I could expect him to understand my level of what is clean vs. what is not clean. He would never see it that way.

I think I made a post somehow #####ing about my husband because I was tired and in a bad mood. But my main point was that I am aware of this and I can't imagine adding kids into the mix and I wanted people to tell me all the good things about having kids. Not that I needed psychoanalysis on my marriage. I got married fairly late and I've seen it all. If the biggest problem we are facing is the fact that he doesn't scrub bathrooms, I think we're in pretty good shape. Oh and BTW we lived together for 2 years before we got married so none of this is new at all.
Yeah, pretty sure the problem is you.

 
Imagine your life if your parents never had kids. Boom! There's your reason right there, give birth to new conciousness. It's a pay it forward kind of thing.

Don't value your own life or that your DNA has been passed down through thousands of people? Kill yourself, you're not worthyof this realm.

 
Imagine your life if your parents never had kids. Boom! There's your reason right there, give birth to new conciousness. It's a pay it forward kind of thing.

Don't value your own life or that your DNA has been passed down through thousands of people? Kill yourself, you're not worthyof this realm.
Listen to him. He's management.

 
Would think starting a thread as to whether him/her should have children is more introspection then most having kids go through.

 
Imagine your life if your parents never had kids. Boom! There's your reason right there, give birth to new conciousness. It's a pay it forward kind of thing.

Don't value your own life or that your DNA has been passed down through thousands of people? Kill yourself, you're not worthyof this realm.
In which aisle can she find birth control?

 
At least until you're elderly and have to rely on people you don't know to do things for you and treat you well.
With all the money we are saving from not having kids, we can pay for it. Also, with as hard as we get to party all life, we likely will go fast anyway. Besides, I know people and their families, I know some members of my family, I'm not so sure I would want to rely on family to care for me anyway.

 
At least until you're elderly and have to rely on people you don't know to do things for you and treat you well.
With all the money we are saving from not having kids, we can pay for it. Also, with as hard as we get to party all life, we likely will go fast anyway. Besides, I know people and their families, I know some members of my family, I'm not so sure I would want to rely on family to care for me anyway.
And there are plenty of kids who stick their parents in homes and pretty much abandon them there. That can't feel too good after all the sacrifices they made.

 
At least until you're elderly and have to rely on people you don't know to do things for you and treat you well.
With all the money we are saving from not having kids, we can pay for it. Also, with as hard as we get to party all life, we likely will go fast anyway. Besides, I know people and their families, I know some members of my family, I'm not so sure I would want to rely on family to care for me anyway.
And there are plenty of kids who stick their parents in homes and pretty much abandon them there. That can't feel too good after all the sacrifices they made.
Yeah, I would rather get screwed over by some random person making $12 an hour than my son that I spent 20 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars raising.

 
At least until you're elderly and have to rely on people you don't know to do things for you and treat you well.
With all the money we are saving from not having kids, we can pay for it. Also, with as hard as we get to party all life, we likely will go fast anyway. Besides, I know people and their families, I know some members of my family, I'm not so sure I would want to rely on family to care for me anyway.
And there are plenty of kids who stick their parents in homes and pretty much abandon them there. That can't feel too good after all the sacrifices they made.
Yeah, I would rather get screwed over by some random person making $12 an hour than my son that I spent 20 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars raising.
You certainly have to be a gambler to want to have kids - probably the highest stakes most people play for in their life.

 
I'm older than you and don't have kids. You definitely shouldn't have kids in the near future. You have way to much to deal with as is and a kid is full time 24/7 work. If you are ocd about cleaning and your home, you will be with the kid. You have time and if you decide you are better off without a kid, there's nothing wrong with that. A kid also costs a lot of money. If you are the breadwinner then how are you going to deal with one more person who will need more than you two combined?

I suggest take care of the issues at hand, get them under control, and don't have a kid unless you are truly happy with your situation because adding a kid will only make it worse if you're not..

 
I don't like the way this thread is heading, so I changed my mind. You should have lots of kids. Why lots?

My wife and I had 5 - oldest is getting married this August, the younger ones are 19, 16, 13 and 11. Sure we had to sacrifice other things to afford a family this large, but on the bright side we were young when we started and now have no mortgage payment, 1 out of college (and teaching now), 1 almost done with college and three more to hang out with for another 8 years or so. They are awesome and have really kept me young. I fear not having kids around as I get older because then I will have to deal with my wife more often and I am slightly afraid of her.

 
At least until you're elderly and have to rely on people you don't know to do things for you and treat you well.
Huh? So you're having kids just to be sure you know your buttwiper at age 80?

That's messed up.
Years ago I was at a company picnic and a co-worker's wife was just shocked that we didn't want kids. She said "whose going to take care of you when you get old?" I just said , I don't know. Rudy died a few years later of a heart attack in his 40's. Left her with 3 young kids. Point being there are nightmare scenarios for every decision. I'm glad I will never be a burden to my kids. That has to be a horrible thought for parents.

 
At least until you're elderly and have to rely on people you don't know to do things for you and treat you well.
Huh? So you're having kids just to be sure you know your buttwiper at age 80?

That's messed up.
I don't want them doing that, but there are quite a lot of other things I'd rather trust them with rather than a stranger.

Maybe you guys can handle it but I'd be completely depressed being old without any kids.

 
Years ago I was at a company picnic and a co-worker's wife was just shocked that we didn't want kids. She said "whose going to take care of you when you get old?" I just said , I don't know. Rudy died a few years later of a heart attack in his 40's. Left her with 3 young kids. Point being there are nightmare scenarios for every decision. I'm glad I will never be a burden to my kids. That has to be a horrible thought for parents.
It is and everything in life is a trade-off. However, I just put my daughter to bed and she told me right before she fell asleep "I love you and you're the best person in my world". Hearing that means more than any amount of money I've spend on her or things I've missed out on doing.

 
At least until you're elderly and have to rely on people you don't know to do things for you and treat you well.
Huh? So you're having kids just to be sure you know your buttwiper at age 80?

That's messed up.
I don't want them doing that, but there are quite a lot of other things I'd rather trust them with rather than a stranger.

Maybe you guys can handle it but I'd be completely depressed being old without any kids.
How do you know? Who knows?

I never even think about getting old. I only worry about near future, next year or two. Next year is a big year, my 50th birthday and 20th anniversary. We have Hawaii and Australia pretty much booked. That's all I care about. Maybe a dog after that.

 
Years ago I was at a company picnic and a co-worker's wife was just shocked that we didn't want kids. She said "whose going to take care of you when you get old?" I just said , I don't know. Rudy died a few years later of a heart attack in his 40's. Left her with 3 young kids. Point being there are nightmare scenarios for every decision. I'm glad I will never be a burden to my kids. That has to be a horrible thought for parents.
It is and everything in life is a trade-off. However, I just put my daughter to bed and she told me right before she fell asleep "I love you and you're the best person in my world". Hearing that means more than any amount of money I've spend on her or things I've missed out on doing.
:thumbup: I'm sure that is awesome.

 
My bookmark is on page two or so....will someone let me know if the op ever came back so i dont wadte my time....tia....

 
My bookmark is on page two or so....will someone let me know if the op ever came back so i dont wadte my time....tia....
She posted a second time defending the same husband who she attacked in the first post, and then hasn't returned. Don't know if you've reached that one yet.

 

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