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Terrell Owens to Skip HOF Induction Ceremony (1 Viewer)
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It’s nice to see that players’ willingness to engage in anthem protests about police injustice (despite the negative publicity it spawned) have now inspired others to rise up in support of their own injustices and force society to confront them head on as well!
bostonfred
Footballguy
I feel bad for him. He's never felt comfortable in his life. He only found out that his dad had lived across the street his whole life because he got in trouble for chatting up his half sister. I don't blame him for having a hard time understanding things sometimes. This is a mistake but it's a mistake that's going to hurt him too. Leave the guy alone.
pinequick
Footballguy
Agree, Hall of Fame was stupid in this regard. Don't stoop to TO's childish level. Do the perfunctory thing and move on.
The irony in all of this being, of course, is that the VERY thing that kept TO from being a first-ballot guy (the "me-first always" persona) is on full display now that he is actually enshrined. Dude can't get out of his own way.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
Hey, take it from the guy insulting a guy he watched play football on TV. He knows class when he sees it.I’m not a big TO guy, but this was not classless to me.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
The thing about T.O is the things he talked about feeling, he’s felt his whole life. He legitimately feels as if it’s him against the world. And with some of the things that have happened to him, I think that outlook is justified. You hear his life story, especially his childhood, and it’s just jaw-dropping.
At the same time, I have to think that some of the people/entities he thought were his enemies or against him, we’re created in his own mind and outlook on the world.
i think that resulted in him shooting himself in the foot many a time. That included him missing out on the Canton experience.
At the same time, I have to think that some of the people/entities he thought were his enemies or against him, we’re created in his own mind and outlook on the world.
i think that resulted in him shooting himself in the foot many a time. That included him missing out on the Canton experience.
GoBirds
Footballguy
So he skipped Canton yet it looks like he did a speech at his college giving a speech with the jacket on? What a clown
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
TO not being a 1st ballot HOF'er was a joke and the writers who vote are idiots.
He is unquestionably one of the top 5 WR's to ever play and he never committed any horrible crimes. Not voting him in 1st ballot shows they need to revamp how players are inducted into the HOF. Writers aren't qualified as they hold grudges if someone isn't nice to them.
All that is true, but we need to get past this "first ballot" crap. It's not good enough anymore when people call someone a Hall of Famer or Future Hall of Famer, now we have to put this stupid "first ballot" qualifier on it like it means something more. Look at the lists each year, there are quite a few deserving players, and sometimes guys are going to have to wait.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
How many guys who were lock top 5 at their position in the history of the NFL didn't get in 1st ballot?
pinequick
Footballguy
Owens kept giving lip service to this notion, that he was doing this (skipping Canton) to fight the good fight for those who came before him and those who come after who got screwed by the bad football writers.
Is there poster on this board who reasonably thinks that someday we will look back and say, "Man, Terrell Owens skipping his induction at Canton in 2018 is what got this whole ball rolling to finally change how induction to the Pro Football Hall of Fame works,"?
gianmarco
Footballguy
pinequick
Footballguy
I would be stunned if this little melodrama were remembered in the public consciousness as anything other than "That's just TO being TO," (if it is remembered at all).
Of course this list can be debated, but here's mine:ILUVBEER99 said:
Herb Adderly
Morten Andersen
Bobby Bell
Willie Davis
Mike Ditka
Otto Graham
Ray Guy
Marvin Harrison
Mike Haynes
Elroy Hirsch
Sam Huff
Jerry Kramer
**** Lane
Willie Lanier
Sid Luckman
John Mackey
Lenny Moore
Marion Motley
Mike Munchak
Ozzie Newsome
Alan Page
Joe Schmidt
Shannon Sharpe
Art Shell
Norm Van Brocklin
Steve Van Buren
Mike Webster
Kellen Winslow
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I'm amazed at how people just overlook Marvin Harrison now, as if it is a no-brainer that Moss and Owens were better, when in reality, it is really close.
Harrison was All-Pro 8 times (3 1st team, 5 2nd team), while Owens was All-Pro 5 times and Moss 4 times. Go look at what Harrison did from 1999-2006. Unreal. And, unlike Moss and Owens, he did it with no drama, no off the field bull crap, no worry that he might not try, etc. Sure, he played most of his career with Peyton Manning, one of the greatest QBs ever, but if playing with Montana/Young doesn't hurt Rice, or playing with Cris Carter/Tom Brady doesn't hurt Moss, then that shouldn't be a ding on Harrison.
Harrison was All-Pro 8 times (3 1st team, 5 2nd team), while Owens was All-Pro 5 times and Moss 4 times. Go look at what Harrison did from 1999-2006. Unreal. And, unlike Moss and Owens, he did it with no drama, no off the field bull crap, no worry that he might not try, etc. Sure, he played most of his career with Peyton Manning, one of the greatest QBs ever, but if playing with Montana/Young doesn't hurt Rice, or playing with Cris Carter/Tom Brady doesn't hurt Moss, then that shouldn't be a ding on Harrison.
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Bronco Billy
Footballguy
ILUVBEER99 said:
Why? Because unlike Owens, the voters understand the value of teamwork in the NFL?
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
And here’s the list of all those well deserving guys posted above who pouted, threw a tantrum, and didn’t show up for the ceremony:
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foxco
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
We'll never know, but I was talking about during their career, not after it. Like I said, we'll never know what happened with Harrison and that drug dealer, but for pretty much his entire career, he was the quiet WR who just went out and played.
bostonfred
Footballguy
DallasDMac
Footballguy
DawnBTVS
Footballguy
I'm legitimately surprised at the outcry towards Terrell Owens for this.
The guy has a real gripe, IMO. The Hall of Fame voters have always touted how it's about the product on the field, nothing else. It was blatantly clear that the writers were refusing to vote Owens in because of his "character" issues (e.g. they thought he was a detriment to his teams, he was too selfish/a media circus where-ever he went, and could be abrasive towards the media itself).
It's total hypocrisy that they then voted in Randy Moss, on the first ballot, despite him openly quitting on teams publicly and stating he was taking plays/years off to the media.
Owens wasn't being selfish to me. He was standing up for the belief that if the HOF really is about the production on the field, nothing more, nothing less then the writers shouldn't hold how players act off the field against them. Was Owens a media circus? Absolutely and there's no denying it but it was also clear that the writers weren't upholding the intended values/mission statement of the HOF itself when it came to inducting Owens.
Knock his personality, hate on him for doing sit ups in his driveway and crying about his Romo's his QB and calling Jeff Garcia a gay slur. Great. But the fact is that the HOF states it should be about what happens on the field. Owens played a Super Bowl on basically one leg with a screw in his other leg. He'd slam teammates in interviews, etc. but nobody can say he quit on his teams like Moss openly did.
The guy has a real gripe, IMO. The Hall of Fame voters have always touted how it's about the product on the field, nothing else. It was blatantly clear that the writers were refusing to vote Owens in because of his "character" issues (e.g. they thought he was a detriment to his teams, he was too selfish/a media circus where-ever he went, and could be abrasive towards the media itself).
It's total hypocrisy that they then voted in Randy Moss, on the first ballot, despite him openly quitting on teams publicly and stating he was taking plays/years off to the media.
Owens wasn't being selfish to me. He was standing up for the belief that if the HOF really is about the production on the field, nothing more, nothing less then the writers shouldn't hold how players act off the field against them. Was Owens a media circus? Absolutely and there's no denying it but it was also clear that the writers weren't upholding the intended values/mission statement of the HOF itself when it came to inducting Owens.
Knock his personality, hate on him for doing sit ups in his driveway and crying about his Romo's his QB and calling Jeff Garcia a gay slur. Great. But the fact is that the HOF states it should be about what happens on the field. Owens played a Super Bowl on basically one leg with a screw in his other leg. He'd slam teammates in interviews, etc. but nobody can say he quit on his teams like Moss openly did.
Dismattle
Footballguy
Great post!
The NFL and their Fans did not really deserve the attendance of TO Coach's suspension for celebrating on the star? Fans hope to see players with animosity towards their opponents unless perhaps we're talking a Pro-Bowl game 1K yards and almost ten TD's but offered no contract? Let's not forget TO outplayed the "Goat" early in his career How can you make sense of feeding the ball to a TE when your team has a HOF WR? TO wanted to Win games while also providing entertainment to his true fans My popcorn was ready
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Actually, he doesn't.
He made the Hall of Fame. He wanted in, and now he is in.
This is not the first time a player with character issues had to wait a few years. Cris Carter, who was 2nd all-time in TD catches and I believe top 5 in receiving yards at the time he retired, had to wait six years (TWICE as long as Owens). Yeah, he was pissed about it, but when he finally made it, he did the right thing and went to Canton to get inducted with his fellow inductees (which makes me sick to say since I cannot stand Carter).
Moss getting in on the first ballot didn't make sense, after not putting in Owens in right away (since their careers were neck and neck), I agree. I honestly would have put Owens in before Moss (being a ##### off the field isn't as bad as quitting on multiple teams).
TripItUp
Footballguy
DawnBTVS
Footballguy
I think it was less about making or not making the HOF and him pointing out the issue. What happened to Cris Carter (and TO) flies directly in the face of the mission statement of the HOF and I applaud Owens for having the courage to stand up for what he believes in. It took a lot more guts for Owens to call the writers out on this matter, while doing his acceptance speech from his college, than it would to just go, "Yeah, what they did was wrong and should be called out but I'll go through the motions and let it happen to somebody else down the road again."
TripItUp
Footballguy
TripItUp
Footballguy
Obvious case of some jackass writers trying to feel better about themselves by pretending to be important.
zoonation
Footballguy
T.O. Would have shattered records with Manning throwing to him. Harrison was great but he had a too 5 all-time QB his entire career.
T.O. Made Jeff Garcia an all-star.
Having said that Harrison should have been 1st ballot too. Maybe pulling a piece on someone and not shelling for the league on NFL network cost him a year.
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