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Terror in New Orleans (1 Viewer)
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fatness
Footballguy
Update
https://x.com/OkayCharisse
@OkayCharisse
Please refer to this latest update: #UPDATE
@MikePerlstein
reports authorities have scoured video for people seen near the suspected IEDs and have RULED OUT immediate connections to them or Jabbar.
Sand
Footballguy
That was the four folks that were suspected (and the FBI later cleared) of planting IEDs. So sorry Google didn't work for you.
culdeus
Footballguy
So they sent the FBI hrt to a home in Houston. Seems like something local swat could manage.
FBI seems to be walking back the whole "planned in a group" thing and maybe a lone guy that went nuts.
His job in the army was HR and IT resources. Don't think he's a big PTSD risk. What a horrible set of events
FBI seems to be walking back the whole "planned in a group" thing and maybe a lone guy that went nuts.
His job in the army was HR and IT resources. Don't think he's a big PTSD risk. What a horrible set of events
jamny
Footballguy
I was flipping around channels and heard it. No link...sorry
jamny
Footballguy
New Orleans Airbnb fire may be connected to Bourbon Stree...
The Airbnb where the Bourbon Street attack suspect Shamsud-Din Jabbar was staying seemingly burned in a fire Wednesday morning.
www.newsweek.com
Sand
Footballguy
A bit of disgruntlement and a religion steeped in violence - the perfect ingredients.
fatness
Footballguy
OK, thanks. It was probably early reporting on what the president-elect said very early today.
There's a TV interview posted twice above with a reporter standing in front of the not-burned-down house today. Here it is for a third time: TV interviewNew Orleans Airbnb fire may be connected to Bourbon Stree...
The Airbnb where the Bourbon Street attack suspect Shamsud-Din Jabbar was staying seemingly burned in a fire Wednesday morning.
fatness
Footballguy
It worked fine. It showed that, for a time, your topic was a leading source for misinformation.
Sand
Footballguy
Yeah ok. Go troll somewhere else. Thanks.
jamny
Footballguy
I've clicked that each time now and not sure what it opens up but it doesn't work for me.OK, thanks. It was probably early reporting on what the president-elect said very early today.
There's a TV interview posted twice above with a reporter standing in front of the not-burned-down house today. Here it is for a third time: TV interviewNew Orleans Airbnb fire may be connected to Bourbon Stree...
The Airbnb where the Bourbon Street attack suspect Shamsud-Din Jabbar was staying seemingly burned in a fire Wednesday morning.
At least on mobile...when I click the video it says "Cannot complete request"
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
No. That’s why I asked
A reminder: Please always post a link when you have a news item.
If you don't have a link and you heard it somewhere, please say that.
If you don't have a link and you heard it somewhere, please say that.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Mrs and I were just at "Mother's Restaurant" in New Orleans the week before Thanksgiving, we were only in town about 3 days for a conference, walked along Canal St
I was going to launch a thread early on NYD about this topic when I first saw what happened.
-But I was also having a good time with the Mrs sipping mimosas and I thought let someone else be the one to share this with everybody
I guess I didn't want to think about both the New Orleans and Vegas terrorist acts, tried to shield my wife from hearing about this until much later on NYD
Sugar Bowl postponed 1 Day, not sure that makes a big difference but it makes those who put the Sugar Bowl together feel better, OK sure why not?
These criminal/terrorists want to disrupt our way of life here in America and I don't like to give in.
They want to stop the party so let's all show up and celebrate in greater numbers
I hate that they do these things and spark fear in everyone
I was going to launch a thread early on NYD about this topic when I first saw what happened.
-But I was also having a good time with the Mrs sipping mimosas and I thought let someone else be the one to share this with everybody
I guess I didn't want to think about both the New Orleans and Vegas terrorist acts, tried to shield my wife from hearing about this until much later on NYD
Sugar Bowl postponed 1 Day, not sure that makes a big difference but it makes those who put the Sugar Bowl together feel better, OK sure why not?
These criminal/terrorists want to disrupt our way of life here in America and I don't like to give in.
They want to stop the party so let's all show up and celebrate in greater numbers
I hate that they do these things and spark fear in everyone
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Sand
Footballguy
Just as a note. Damn good choice. I'm hungry now.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Not sure it's fear as much as it is precaution. They are different. If 100K people show up to the Sugar Bowl and IEDs go off, the authorities look really, really bad. I'd hate my family to be in there and something happened.
What our country needs is the opposite of what has become modern forgiveness. Whether it's current interpretation of Christian morality, a more advanced society, and amnesty international type objective statements ... Frankly, punishment should be double what a bad person does to someone else. You steal $30k in LV gear from a store, you owe them $60K. You kill someone, the holistic concept the you don't get death because it's wrong for society to punish you that way ... BS ... what did you just do to your victim? As long as it's through proper judicial channels, I'm all for the victim family getting retribution Middle East style. You want less people in the jails, make their punishment equal for the first crime, double for the second infraction, quadruple for the third infraction, etc. We are an incredibly weak society when it comes to punishing the perpetrators. And then we wonder why the same people do it over and over again. Um, their punishment was less than their crime?
the moops
Footballguy
She seems to have a fine grasp of the english language.
3C's
Footballguy
LV Cybertruck bomber was also an Army vet and apparently served at the same post as the NO terrorist.
www.theguardian.com
Driver in Las Vegas Cybertruck blast was decorated US army soldier, officials say
Suspect, 37, who authorities believe shot and killed himself before Tesla vehicle detonated, served as Green Beret
HellToupee
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
FBI changes their assessment of the New Orleans attack.
FBI doesn't believe anyone but driver of truck involved in New Orleans attack
FBI doesn't believe anyone but driver of truck involved in New Orleans attack
fatness
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
Have you been able to figure out whether they served at the same time at that Army post? I haven't found it.LV Cybertruck bomber was also an Army vet and apparently served at the same post as the NO terrorist.
Driver in Las Vegas Cybertruck blast was decorated US army soldier, officials say
Suspect, 37, who authorities believe shot and killed himself before Tesla vehicle detonated, served as Green Beret
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
If they were on the same unit then maybe there is a connection but Ft. Bragg has over 50k personnel on there, **** I don’t even know everyone at my unit and we only have about 290. Roughly 130 people seems to be the sweet spot of knowing everyone at a unit and that’s only if it’s an operational one.Have you been able to figure out whether they served at the same time at that Army post? I haven't found it.LV Cybertruck bomber was also an Army vet and apparently served at the same post as the NO terrorist.
Driver in Las Vegas Cybertruck blast was decorated US army soldier, officials say
Suspect, 37, who authorities believe shot and killed himself before Tesla vehicle detonated, served as Green Beret
3C's
Footballguy
Yeah, seems unlikely they were in the same unit, and possibly not even on the same post. NO guy was HR type, LV guy was supposedly special forces/infantry.If they were on the same unit then maybe there is a connection but Ft. Bragg has over 50k personnel on there, **** I don’t even know everyone at my unit and we only have about 290. Roughly 130 people seems to be the sweet spot of knowing everyone at a unit and that’s only if it’s an operational one.Have you been able to figure out whether they served at the same time at that Army post? I haven't found it.LV Cybertruck bomber was also an Army vet and apparently served at the same post as the NO terrorist.
Driver in Las Vegas Cybertruck blast was decorated US army soldier, officials say
Suspect, 37, who authorities believe shot and killed himself before Tesla vehicle detonated, served as Green Beret
ETA: CNN says LV guy has been confirmed Green Beret.
10thSFG which is based out of Fort Collins CO so it lines up.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I purposely posted it to let the locals know in New Orleans, we stand tall with you
I love that city, been there numerous times, love the local vibe and have walked canal Street numerous times
Heart goes out to all the victims, both those that are dead and those still fighting for their lives in the local hospitals
-I can say the same for Vegas, they've already been hit with tragedy in the last 5-10 years with the hotel massacre, not sure how many folks died in the truck explosion at the hotel.
I've been to Vegas numerous times, always felt pretty safe, wish these events didn't do what they're designed for which is to interrupt day to day life in America
We're very fortunate we typically don't wake up thinking about bombs going off around us.
Mrs and I take the Brightline from WPB into Miami 1-2x a week and these kind of attacks keep us vigilant and certainly make us wonder when Miami will be the target, hopefully never.
Just a rotten feeling all the way around.
Ts&Ps for those impacted in New Orleans, Vegas and other places this story seems to spread and connect with
Can't imagine anyone is happy with what's unfolded on NYE/NYD
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Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
The news article you quoted says their time there didn't overlap.Have you been able to figure out whether they served at the same time at that Army post? I haven't found it.LV Cybertruck bomber was also an Army vet and apparently served at the same post as the NO terrorist.
Driver in Las Vegas Cybertruck blast was decorated US army soldier, officials say
Suspect, 37, who authorities believe shot and killed himself before Tesla vehicle detonated, served as Green Beret
nirad3
Footballguy
My wife and kids were in New Orleans and on Bourbon a few days ago... granted, not on NYE but was still harrowing to wake up to the news knowing they were just there.
Was married in New Orleans and the city holds a special place in my (and my wife's) heart. As if that city hasn't endured enough tragedy.
Unfortunately I think this is just a harbinger of more.
Was married in New Orleans and the city holds a special place in my (and my wife's) heart. As if that city hasn't endured enough tragedy.
Unfortunately I think this is just a harbinger of more.
3C's
Footballguy
That's an update which wasn't there earlier but thanks for the update . I posted at 1115, article time is now 1436.The news article you quoted says their time there didn't overlap.Have you been able to figure out whether they served at the same time at that Army post? I haven't found it.LV Cybertruck bomber was also an Army vet and apparently served at the same post as the NO terrorist.
Driver in Las Vegas Cybertruck blast was decorated US army soldier, officials say
Suspect, 37, who authorities believe shot and killed himself before Tesla vehicle detonated, served as Green Beret
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I appreciate you for correcting the misinformation.
Notable that the original post in this thread also contains misinformation regarding the New Orleans terrorist crossing the border. Errors made in the “fog of war” are inevitable but hopefully Sand will edit his OP that mistakenly tied this terrorist attack to border insecurity.
Sand
Footballguy
Not correct - I stated the truck came over the border, not the terrorist. As far as I know that finding hasn't been contradicted, but I'm certainly willing to edit that if it turns out it wasn't correct (it was reported so at the time).
I also stated the police were conducting raids, which was true in that they had 4 suspects they thought were planting IEDs. The FBI has backed off of that (found they weren't planting IEDs), but it was true at the time of posting.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I have no problem with people NOT correcting previous posts as new info comes in. Newer posts have the newer info... Otherwise that's a lot of editing (unnecessary imo), plus it's interesting to me to see the arc of the story, mistakes and all.I appreciate you for correcting the misinformation.
Notable that the original post in this thread also contains misinformation regarding the New Orleans terrorist crossing the border. Errors made in the “fog of war” are inevitable but hopefully Sand will edit his OP that mistakenly tied this terrorist attack to border insecurity.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I too find the mistakes interesting, if only for what they reveal. That said, I’d prefer accuracy, full stop. And in the event that inaccuracies occur, we should allow for some grace as long as the inaccuracies were based on good faith efforts. Fog of war is real.I have no problem with people NOT correcting previous posts as new info comes in. Newer posts have the newer info... Otherwise that's a lot of editing (unnecessary imo), plus it's interesting to me to see the arc of the story, mistakes and all.I appreciate you for correcting the misinformation.
Notable that the original post in this thread also contains misinformation regarding the New Orleans terrorist crossing the border. Errors made in the “fog of war” are inevitable but hopefully Sand will edit his OP that mistakenly tied this terrorist attack to border insecurity.
El Floppo
Footballguy
From AP
LAS VEGAS (AP) — The highly decorated U.S. Army soldier inside the Tesla Cybertruck that burst into flames outside President-elect Donald Trump’s Las Vegas hotel shot himself in the head before the explosion and likely planned to cause more damage but the steel-sided vehicle absorbed much of the force from the rudimentary explosive, officials said Thursday.
Clark County Sheriff Kevin McMahill said at a news conference that a handgun was found at the feet of the man in the driver’s seat, who officials believe is Matthew Livelsberger, 37, of Colorado. The shot appeared to be self-inflicted, officials said.
Damage from the blast was mostly limited to the interior of the truck. The explosion “vented out and up” and didn’t hit the Trump hotel doors just a few feet away, the sheriff said.
“The level of sophistication is not what we would expect from an individual with this type of military experience,” said Kenny Cooper, a special agent in charge for the the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Sand
Footballguy
For a Green Beret he really seems to have made a hash of that whole thing.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Seems logical, in a way. It's hard to believe that he could have seriously expected that truck explosion to do serious damage. More like a "look at me" suicide like Aaron Bushnell.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I find reporting on breaking events interesting... Both from MSM and in here.I too find the mistakes interesting, if only for what they reveal. That said, I’d prefer accuracy, full stop. And in the event that inaccuracies occur, we should allow for some grace as long as the inaccuracies were based on good faith efforts. Fog of war is real.I have no problem with people NOT correcting previous posts as new info comes in. Newer posts have the newer info... Otherwise that's a lot of editing (unnecessary imo), plus it's interesting to me to see the arc of the story, mistakes and all.I appreciate you for correcting the misinformation.
Notable that the original post in this thread also contains misinformation regarding the New Orleans terrorist crossing the border. Errors made in the “fog of war” are inevitable but hopefully Sand will edit his OP that mistakenly tied this terrorist attack to border insecurity.
Right and left leaning outlets have clear agendas. Some are just yellow journalism trying to get clicks before verifying anything- if I see the mirror or guardian linked (and there are others like those), I choose to ignore whatever's said until it's verified.
And we're kinda like the outlets... We each have what we bring into how we perceive the event.
I personally prefer seeing these kind of threads and media with who/what/where/when info... Might be slower arriving and less interesting, but is at least as factually correct as possible. AP and Reuters both generally leave the "why" out of their reporting of breaking news.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Plus, it's either that or die horribly from the explosion.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Love this post.
This forum is the first place I go in terms of breaking news like this. At least I know it is continually updated with the latest news from whatever news outlet people follow. And it seems like eventually we get to what's true based on reports coming from both sides.
This type of thing is the best part of this forum if I'm being honest.
Zow
Footballguy
I'm not trying to be overly argumentative here and I haven't been able to follow much of this story, but isn't Turo the prominent owner to renter company/app out there? In other words, isn't Turo like the Uber or the vrbo for vehicle rentals from a private owner?
To me, it makes sense to just rent some vehicle from this sort of service if your plan is just to blow it up and ram it into people and you do not own such a vehicle yourself. As such, I don't put much into the Turo coincidence as it seems to be a very common source to rent a vehicle from a private owner.
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