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The 100 Greatest movies of the 1990s #38. Tombstone (41 Viewers)
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zamboni
Footballguy
Yes, Wings just passed away a few months ago. Solid character actor.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
“I waited the whole movie to see an alien and it was her godd@amn father!” - Mr. Garrison of South Park.
timschochet
Footballguy
44. Rudy (1993)
Directed by: David Anspaugh
Starring: Sean Astin, Ned Beatty, Charles S. Dutton
Synopsis: A practice player for Notre Dame football makes the team and into a game.
(Upon entering Notre Dame Stadium) This is the most beautiful sight these eyes have ever seen!- Ned Beatty as Daniel Rutiger Sr.,
Supposed to be a true story but of course a lot of it was total BS. The “Jersey scene” never happened. The coach, Dan Devine, simply decided that Rudy could suit up in the last game. (Upon seeing the film, the real Devine was pissed off that it portrayed him as such a jerk.) Rudy was carried off the field but according to Joe Montana, who was on that team, it was a couple of clowns that did it as a joke. Nobody in the crowd chanted his name. The crowd didn’t know who he was. (There were players on the team, interviewed after the film came out, who couldn’t remember Rudy at all.)
So much for Hollywood and historical accuracy. But despite all that this a great and inspiring film. The characters and acting are fine; Sean Astin in his best role other than Sam Gamwell. The music by Jerry Goldsmith is soaring and terrific. Lone this movie.
Directed by: David Anspaugh
Starring: Sean Astin, Ned Beatty, Charles S. Dutton
Synopsis: A practice player for Notre Dame football makes the team and into a game.
(Upon entering Notre Dame Stadium) This is the most beautiful sight these eyes have ever seen!- Ned Beatty as Daniel Rutiger Sr.,
Supposed to be a true story but of course a lot of it was total BS. The “Jersey scene” never happened. The coach, Dan Devine, simply decided that Rudy could suit up in the last game. (Upon seeing the film, the real Devine was pissed off that it portrayed him as such a jerk.) Rudy was carried off the field but according to Joe Montana, who was on that team, it was a couple of clowns that did it as a joke. Nobody in the crowd chanted his name. The crowd didn’t know who he was. (There were players on the team, interviewed after the film came out, who couldn’t remember Rudy at all.)
So much for Hollywood and historical accuracy. But despite all that this a great and inspiring film. The characters and acting are fine; Sean Astin in his best role other than Sam Gamwell. The music by Jerry Goldsmith is soaring and terrific. Lone this movie.
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Jayrod
Footballguy
I love Rudy. Like really love it and I'd probably have it a little higher because I watched it like 10 times during my high school years.
But I get the cheese factor is a little high and there are at least 5 movies already named that I would have had much higher than Rudy.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The Social Network is mostly BS too and that doesn't stop it from being a good movie either. It's a category of film called a "docudrama".
Father Cavanaugh: Son, in thirty-five years of religious studies, I've come up with only two hard, incontrovertible facts; there is a God, and, I'm not him.
Father Cavanaugh: Son, in thirty-five years of religious studies, I've come up with only two hard, incontrovertible facts; there is a God, and, I'm not him.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Yeah, Any Given Sunday is an over the top depiction of pro football...not for everybody. Most football fans I know love it, but it definitely has a unique style that might not sit well with many, which is not uncommon for this director's films.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Top 10 sports movie all time for me.
Trip's Official Ruling: Slightly Underranked (Would have it in the 20-30 range)
General Malaise
Footballguy
I know some folks really like Rudy, but I didn't see until I was a jaded old fart in my 40s and I thought it was dumb. What was the inspiration? He didn't really do anything special and I found him incredibly annoying. Real life Rudy is supposed to be a turd too.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I have zero interest in inspirational sports movies and have never seen Rudy.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Another fair warning, especially if you're about to show this movie to your 9 year old sons and invite your spouse to join you for a fun family movie night......Rosie Perez shows some boob and there's more sex scenes than I recall from seeing this 30+ years ago. That made for some uncomfortable moments.
Still, fun movie to watch again. And I didn't really find Perez all that obnoxious. Spunky and loud, but playing a role she played it well. IMO.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Well, here's a spoiler. If you think it's a movie about an underdog who helps his team win a big game, it's not. Does he perhaps manage to come into a game and and help his team in some marginal way? Also, no. Okay, perhaps he is stricken with a rare disease and inspires his team from a hospital bed? Wrong. Maybe he's overcome having a 13 toes, a hook for a hand and plaque psoriasis to make the team? No, he's healthy. He's just not any good. And he's also so obnoxious you want to punt him through Touch Down Jesus praying hands.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Always enjoyable walking around Ann Arbor when they play ND and seeing the “Rudy Sucked” T-Shirts
Never was clear if it was the player or the movie but both apply IMO
zamboni
Footballguy
From what I've read, some have wanted to go Rudy Tomjanovich on him.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
You see that sweet tackle in the last game, bro??
General Malaise
Footballguy
@3YearLetterman
"Anyone who played high school football almost certainly played with someone like Rudy. And we all hated him. He’s the guy who shouts while lifting weights. He shows up to early-morning summer workouts and claims it’s his “favorite part of the day.” He asks the coach if the team can run extra gassers at the end of practice. He stays out on the practice field for an extra hour hitting the blocking sled. He tries to be a “coach on the field” and yells at his teammates for “not playing through the whistle.” He makes a dramatic show of hitting his helmet in frustration when he misses a tackle, which is pretty much every play. He always has the defensive playbook under his arm and reads it alone at lunch. He makes awkward attempts to be friends with the coaches. But above all, he absolutely sucks as a football player and has no hope of ever contributing on the field.
In a just world, there would be no Rudys. High school coaches would have the ability and the willingness to run these losers off before they have a chance to poison practices with their earnestness and “hustling.” But we do not live in a just world. We live in a world where this kind of behavior is not only tolerated, but celebrated. And the most shining example of that is Rudy.
There are countless examples of this nonsense in the movie, but one scene in particular stands out. It’s Notre Dame’s last practice of the season, and as best I can tell, the third string offense is scrimmaging against the scout team defense. In other words, who really gives a ****? It’s a time to go through the motions and get done with practice. Instead, Rudy decides to act like Billy Badass and goes blowing through the line at full speed. He tackles running back Jamie O’Hara, portrayed by Vince Vaughn. If Hollywood had any sense of fairness, O’Hara would have kicked Rudy’s *** on the spot, and Notre Dame’s head coach, Ara Parseghian, would have thrown Rudy off the team for good.
That doesn’t happen. Instead, Parseghian self-righteously lectures O’Hara about his own lack of hustle and Rudy’s “heart.” He then unjustly demotes O’Hara to the “prep team” for doing the right thing.
It’s a scene that makes me shake with rage during every viewing. It has, however, had some practical value. I show Rudy to my youth football team every year and explain that if any of them act like Rudy, they’ll be forced to wade through the copperhead-infested creek in the woods behind the football field. If Ara Parseghian had done the same, Notre Dame might have more than one national championship since the ‘70s."
"Anyone who played high school football almost certainly played with someone like Rudy. And we all hated him. He’s the guy who shouts while lifting weights. He shows up to early-morning summer workouts and claims it’s his “favorite part of the day.” He asks the coach if the team can run extra gassers at the end of practice. He stays out on the practice field for an extra hour hitting the blocking sled. He tries to be a “coach on the field” and yells at his teammates for “not playing through the whistle.” He makes a dramatic show of hitting his helmet in frustration when he misses a tackle, which is pretty much every play. He always has the defensive playbook under his arm and reads it alone at lunch. He makes awkward attempts to be friends with the coaches. But above all, he absolutely sucks as a football player and has no hope of ever contributing on the field.
In a just world, there would be no Rudys. High school coaches would have the ability and the willingness to run these losers off before they have a chance to poison practices with their earnestness and “hustling.” But we do not live in a just world. We live in a world where this kind of behavior is not only tolerated, but celebrated. And the most shining example of that is Rudy.
There are countless examples of this nonsense in the movie, but one scene in particular stands out. It’s Notre Dame’s last practice of the season, and as best I can tell, the third string offense is scrimmaging against the scout team defense. In other words, who really gives a ****? It’s a time to go through the motions and get done with practice. Instead, Rudy decides to act like Billy Badass and goes blowing through the line at full speed. He tackles running back Jamie O’Hara, portrayed by Vince Vaughn. If Hollywood had any sense of fairness, O’Hara would have kicked Rudy’s *** on the spot, and Notre Dame’s head coach, Ara Parseghian, would have thrown Rudy off the team for good.
That doesn’t happen. Instead, Parseghian self-righteously lectures O’Hara about his own lack of hustle and Rudy’s “heart.” He then unjustly demotes O’Hara to the “prep team” for doing the right thing.
It’s a scene that makes me shake with rage during every viewing. It has, however, had some practical value. I show Rudy to my youth football team every year and explain that if any of them act like Rudy, they’ll be forced to wade through the copperhead-infested creek in the woods behind the football field. If Ara Parseghian had done the same, Notre Dame might have more than one national championship since the ‘70s."
General Malaise
Footballguy
Got in some big trouble with the SEC (no, not the football powerhouse one) for a pump and dumb scheme with an energy drink called Rudy Nutrition. Whoops.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Who is Sam Gamwell?
Sam Gamgee’s third cousin twice removed.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I've only seen Rudy once. I get that it's a "classic" but I remember seeing it and thought "ok, it was nice." Maybe it's ranked ok but maybe it should be in the 60's?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Now we are talking!
El Floppo
Footballguy
Doogie?
TripItUp
Footballguy
Yeah, we aren't getting together for movie night any time soon.
You have a black heart...I get it.
zamboni
Footballguy
Karma does love rock and roll.
Yeah, we aren't getting together for movie night any time soon.
You have a black heart...I get it.
Todem
Footballguy
So thrilled you probably just ruined this movie for me for life now.
I had no clue....never bothered to ever research the actual story......just went off the magic of this all time great sports film.
And I will say it again....you must be a hoot at a party Tim.
Sheesh.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
The movie Rudy was just the perfect recipe for a feel good movie. After u watch it you feel like it's time for you to accomplish more in life.
Todem
Footballguy
Great human story....that Tim just splintered into a thousand pieces for me with his factual reveal......lord man.
I feel like I just found out Santa Claus is not real.
I think I may have to strip and go streaking right now to deal with this.......
timschochet
Footballguy
It is and I love the movie. But I kinda love the hate too.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
Santa isn't real?!?
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It inspires me to come in and argue about movie rankings!
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
You are young.
Mookie Gizzy
Footballguy
Rudy was offsides
titusbramble
Footballguy
I have a message for him
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
jealous much?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Its a Hallmark movie for dudes.
zamboni
Footballguy
Should have also been flagged for excessive celebration.
timschochet
Footballguy
43. When We Were Kings (1996)
Directed by: Leon Gast
Starring: Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Angelo Dundee, Norman Mailer, George Plimpton
Synopsis: A documentary of the 1974 heavyweight championship fight between Muhammad Ali and George Foreman, in Zaire: the “Rumble In the Jungle”
I’m young, I’m handsome, I’m fast, I’m pretty, and I can’t possibly be beat- Muhammad Ali.
One of the greatest documentary films ever made, this movie takes you back to Zaire in 1974 for perhaps the greatest heavyweight fight of all time. Foreman was considered an unbeatable foe, as brutal as Mike Tyson in his prime only bigger. Ali was an aging former champion who had never recovered from his time away from the ring as a result of refusing to be drafted. Nobody predicted Ali had a chance. Except Ali.
Directed by: Leon Gast
Starring: Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Angelo Dundee, Norman Mailer, George Plimpton
Synopsis: A documentary of the 1974 heavyweight championship fight between Muhammad Ali and George Foreman, in Zaire: the “Rumble In the Jungle”
I’m young, I’m handsome, I’m fast, I’m pretty, and I can’t possibly be beat- Muhammad Ali.
One of the greatest documentary films ever made, this movie takes you back to Zaire in 1974 for perhaps the greatest heavyweight fight of all time. Foreman was considered an unbeatable foe, as brutal as Mike Tyson in his prime only bigger. Ali was an aging former champion who had never recovered from his time away from the ring as a result of refusing to be drafted. Nobody predicted Ali had a chance. Except Ali.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
Great choice. Appropriately ranked.
I loved seeing this in the cinema. Everything from the music to the organization of the footage to the pacing was done perfectly.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Perfect.
Like the description I heard for "Yellowstone" - It's Dallas for Cowboys.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Perfect.
Like the description I heard for "Yellowstone" - It's Dallas for
This is in my top 20 easily. So is another 90s doc about sports. This film is in a different solar system than schmaltz like Rudy.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I don't know why posting on my phone brings up prior posts for me. Weird.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Great film.
There's been a bit of a false narrative that has grown over the years about this fight: that Ali was getting his butt whipped by Foreman until the knockout. Ali was shredding him all through that fight, but all it seems everyone remembers is the rope-a-dope and Foreman wailing on Ali's body. Go watch the fight with an open mind and not what media/myth have made of it the last 50 years. Foreman was getting ripped by Ali in just about every round.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Braveheart, one of the best movies ever made, comes in at #49. Out.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
Yeah Ali was like a surgeon, wearing him down with punches that were directed carefully and werent flashy but did the job of tiring George out. Everyone thinks Ali took seven rounds of Foremans hits. Sure he took a few, but he made sure the hits he took were necessary to accomplish what he needed to.
It was a victory for Brain over Brawn
Tau837
Footballguy
I am a huge football fan, and I didn't like it. All style, minimal substance. Give me North Dallas Forty or Playmakers any day.
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