The 2009 K Thread (2 Viewers)

[QuizGuy66]

Is there anything new on the Saints' kicker situation?Is Hartley expected to get the job once his suspension is completed?

I dunno but our commish you usually knows better took him as the 2nd kicker off the board -QG

 

[BobbyLayne]

Is there anything new on the Saints' kicker situation?Is Hartley expected to get the job once his suspension is completed?

I dunno but our commish you usually knows better took him as the 2nd kicker off the board -QG

Our commish has him rostered (bench is only 6 long). Two kickers. WTF is that?I screwed up my draft a kicker with a late bye week strategy in that league because Gould was there in the last round. Yeah, yeah, the guy hasn't ever hit a 50 yarder as a pro, but he won me few games a couple years ago when he had his prolific year. Now I've been thinking for the last 2 weeks what I'm gonna do when he and Olsen have their bye...and it will keep bugging me for another month.Now see that's just messed up...if you have spent more than 30 seconds thinking about your kicker and his bye week...

 

[Mike Herman]

Chicago Bears' veteran specialists work to stay in sync: Robbie Gould, Brad Maynard, & Patrick Mannelly http://bit.ly/gS58g 3 minutes ago from web

David Akers looks to bounce back from NFC title game http://bit.ly/4Awr9 #NFL 21 minutes ago from web

RT @detroitlions Jason Hanson says he'll be ready to kick; Guard Manny Ramirez might get start for Lions http://bit.ly/hqmd9 about 10 hours ago from web

Through 2008, following are the top 25 career scorers in the NFL. The list is dominated by kickers, rightfully so... http://bit.ly/ZZZCL about 17 hours ago from web

RT @vikingsbuzztap Pioneer Press >> Minnesota Vikings' Ryan Longwell on Brett Favre: 'He's the anti-superstar' http://bit.ly/22Kcz about 17 hours ago from web

 

[Finatic]

Is there no kickermania piece in the subscriber content for week 1.It showed up on Friday Pm's section Friday and now it's gone???

 

[Mike Herman]

Is there no kickermania piece in the subscriber content for week 1.It showed up on Friday Pm's section Friday and now it's gone???

Yes, I did write one. I just informed the powers-that-be that the link is missing.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Fairly sure it was adderol. Carney could keep the job if he does well these 4 weeks.

 

[da_budman]

Plus I heard the coach say it was a mistake letting Carney go the previous season. I would guess if Carney does well he keeps the job BUT we ARE talking about a kicker they gave up on once already and the guy who replaced him so who knows.

 

[jobarules]

wasnt carney the #1 kicker last yr on the giants?

 

[the 'boys]

hartley tested positive for adderral which was on the prohibited list. weird...he could have ADD and its against the rules to not take medicine to combat that?

so carney for weeks 1-4 for sure

 

[gbill2004]

hartley tested positive for adderral which was on the prohibited list. weird...he could have ADD and its against the rules to not take medicine to combat that?so carney for weeks 1-4 for sure

If you have a valid reason to take the drug, with doctors orders and a prescription, the NFL will grant an exception.

 

[texasbirdfan]

this preseason's most underplayed fantasy event to me was the change in placekicker for the Saints. Hardly no mention anywhere and of course some fantasy services were clueless. I was able to dump Hartley Wednesday in my dynasty league's first waiver period of the year .

 

[Englishteacher]

Is Hartley supposed to resume the job when he comes back?

 

[HellToupee]

Is Hartley supposed to resume the job when he comes back?

it depends on Carney's performance

 

[Mike Herman]

Game day reminder that Folk, Vinatieri, Hanson, and Graham apparently should all play today and handle placekicking, but not all will necessarily handle kickoffs. LINK

 

[Mike Herman]

Big Kickers on Campus, week 2: a quick summary of notable kicking during the second week of the 2009 college football season... LINK

 

[Mike Herman]

RT @psmyth12 Matt Prater now 6-of-7 on 50-yard field goals in his two seasons as a Bronco with his 50-yard conversion in Cincinnati. 24 minutes ago from web

RT @cowboysreport Special teams give Cowboys a spark: Rookie David Buehler's work key for Cowboys' special teams. http://bit.ly/KJpWk 25 minutes ago from web

Q&A: Tampa Bay Buccaneers kicker Mike Nugent talks about his less-than-stellar debut http://bit.ly/mwZDk #NFL about 4 hours ago from web

Dallas Cowboys K David Buehler Post Game Interview (video) http://bit.ly/Y8LAZ #NFL about 7 hours ago from web

Huber stands tall: Cincinnati Bengals rookie punter Kevin Huber http://bit.ly/198A3w about 7 hours ago from web

"after today [Thomas Morstead] is becoming a real kickoff weapon, and that pays huge dividends over the course of the season." - John Carney about 7 hours ago from web

Phil Dawson (904 career points) now third on the Cleveland Browns' all-time list behind Lou Groza (1,349) and Don Cockroft (1,080) about 7 hours ago from web

RT @RedskinsDotCom Smith Scores On Trick Play: The Redskins' first touchdown of 2009 season was by punter Hunter Smith http://bit.ly/g2Adv about 7 hours ago from web

“I have to hit the ball more confidently out there. You can’t baby the ball.” - Baltimore Ravens Steve Hauschka http://bit.ly/3VMcch #NFL about 7 hours ago from web

RT @pbt_nflnews NFL #News » Chiefs notebook: Ryan Succop's long kick puts him in elite company - Kansas City Star http://bit.ly/q1hb5 about 7 hours ago from web

After spending almost all of 2008 watching from the bench, NYG Lawrence Tynes is the highest scoring kicker this afternoon (3 FGs & 2 PATs) about 17 hours ago from web

“I wasn’t getting my job done and so I probably would have booed me, too. I don’t blame [the fans] at all.” -Jason Elam http://bit.ly/40QEJb about 17 hours ago from web

"That's why they should have someone who understands special teams better on the Competition Committee." - David Akers http://bit.ly/ISHuM about 17 hours ago from web

"You act like the kicker is held to a different standard than every other position, which is basically perfection." -JH http://bit.ly/UERsb 6:38 AM Sep 13th from web

A History of Eagles' Special Teams http://bit.ly/18wTuX #NFL #Philadelphia 2:50 PM Sep 12th from web

 

[Mike Herman]

For those who truly want to dominate their fantasy leagues...

Kicking Practice, circa 1893

 

[triple_f]

I read there's a possibility Carney keeps his job, even when Hartley returns from suspension.

I don't believe it...Hartley was a perfect 13-13 in FG's and 28 PAT's without a miss after he joined the Saints.

Does anyone have any new information on this?

Carney's Job To Lose?

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

Carney being a Vet with more than four years of service has his salary guarenteed because he was on the roster week one. That could be a factor.

 

[saintfool]

JC has to show the ability to make a long FG attempt. clutch attempts would help him, for sure, because Saints fans stil remember

 

[Mike Herman]

From the Kickology blog: NFL Week One K Quotes

 

[Fat Nick]

I recall reading somewhere that he absolutely will. They quoted someone as saying, something to the effect of "Hartley inspires confidence. When he steps out to take a kick, I don't worry"...something like that. I don't remember if it was Brees or the HC or who, and I'm sorry I can't post a link, but I definately recall reading that.

 

[gheemony]

Carney had a FG blocked. Anyone know if that was his fault or the blocking?

Seems like a try out for Carney. Hartley doesn't seem so special that NO would change something that is working. So depends if Carney does the job well enough.

 

[Mike Herman]

Also factoring into the equation is how rookie punter Thomas Morstead does on kickoffs. Morstead had 3 touchbacks on 8 kickoffs against the Lions. When the Saints previously released Carney, kickoffs was a big part of the reason. They didn't want to carry a second kicker to handle kickoffs, and they didn't have a punter who could do so. After seeing Carney succeed in NY last year, someone asked HC Payton if he regretted having let Carney go. He confirmed that he did.

link

 

[saintfool]

Carney had a FG blocked. Anyone know if that was his fault or the blocking? Seems like a try out for Carney. Hartley doesn't seem so special that NO would change something that is working. So depends if Carney does the job well enough.

the blocking broke down on the attempt. the good and bad news is that payton was completely pragmatic in his approach to the PKers (and Punters too) last year. mare sucked. melhaff showed promise but was cut. hartley came on and did okay in his short time on the team. coming into this season, payton seemed confident in hartley. i think most people expect hartley to come back and return as a starter. however, payton is one of the most unpredictable coaches in the game. there was some chatter about how he'd keep both with carney handling duties on attempts less than 35 yards. who the hell knows really?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

there was some chatter about how he'd keep both with carney handling duties on attempts less than 35 yards. who the hell knows really?

Oh great, KBC, the new trend in fantasy football...

 

[Dexter Manley]

Also factoring into the equation is how rookie punter Thomas Morstead does on kickoffs. Morstead had 3 touchbacks on 8 kickoffs against the Lions. When the Saints previously released Carney, kickoffs was a big part of the reason. They didn't want to carry a second kicker to handle kickoffs, and they didn't have a punter who could do so. After seeing Carney succeed in NY last year, someone asked HC Payton if he regretted having let Carney go. He confirmed that he did.

link

3 touchbacks in 8 attempts is pretty damn good. If that trend continues, I think it will bode well for Carney.

 

[Mike Herman]

“It’s just a matter of when I’m ready to, I guess. We’re still working through a few things." - Adam Vinatieri http://bit.ly/14v73M about 1 hour ago from web

Q&A With Morten Andersen http://bit.ly/6Z29b about 3 hours ago from web

 

[Mike Herman]

The Grass Under My Feet: kicking on grass vs. artificial turf http://bit.ly/OBpPy

 

[Mike Herman]

RT @PewterReport Bucs K Mike Nugent Confident Mistakes Will Be Corrected - http://www.pewterreport.com... 36 minutes ago from web

"I was pretty happy with my punts, but I could have done a lot better on my holding..." -rookie punter/holder Pat McAfee http://bit.ly/i0Re4 about 1 hour ago from web

RT @1340WNBS Former Murray State All-American Kicker Shane Andrus has been released by the Colts. about 1 hour ago from web

 

[Mike Herman]

RT @NFLInjuries #NFL Jason Elam - Sep 16 2009 Elam was limited in Wednesday''s practice by a hamstring injury. http://tinyurl.com/lultz3 2 minutes ago from web

Green Bay Packers kicker Mason Crosby sat out practice with abdominal soreness but said he expects to play Sunday. http://bit.ly/2YFeHd #NFL 4 minutes ago from web

RT @steelersbuzztap Behind the Steel Curtain >> Jeff Reed Named AFC Special Teams Player Of The Week http://bit.ly/15fMqZ about 3 hours ago from web

 

[Mike Herman]

RT @L_I_O_N_S Jason Hanson seeks hang time: Lions kicker Jason Hanson is almost at full strength... http://bit.ly/kalVG about 4 hours ago from web

“It’s like an arm on a quarterback. Anything in that area, they want to be safe.” -Green Bay Packers kicker Mason Crosby http://bit.ly/sYw87 about 7 hours ago from web

RT @ScoutingBureau PK Matt Prater (UCF) has made 94.6% of his charted practice kicks & 100% of his preseason/regular season FG attempts. about 15 hours ago from web

 

[Mike Herman]

The latest in must-read kickology: A Dearth of Field Goals

 

[Das Boot]

RT @NFLInjuries #NFL Jason Elam - Sep 16 2009 Elam was limited in Wednesday''s practice by a hamstring injury. http://tinyurl.com/lultz3 2 minutes ago from web

Green Bay Packers kicker Mason Crosby sat out practice with abdominal soreness but said he expects to play Sunday. http://bit.ly/2YFeHd #NFL 4 minutes ago from web

RT @steelersbuzztap Behind the Steel Curtain >> Jeff Reed Named AFC Special Teams Player Of The Week http://bit.ly/15fMqZ about 3 hours ago from web

It's definitely helpful when you bold the K involved in the quote.Thanks for the constant stream of K updates.

 

[Mike Herman]

For those planning to participate in UFL fantasy leagues, here's a listing of the specialists in training camps: LINK

 

[Kuz]

For those planning to participate in UFL fantasy leagues, here's a listing of the specialists in training camps: LINK

Mike - Question for you. Love your kickermania stuff.. Who do you like better for the rest of the year..Rackers or Folk

TIA

 

[Mike Herman]

The Meadowlands: A bane for kickers? http://bit.ly/c9t2t about 9 hours ago from web

"Rob [bironas] didn't miss any field goals. The snap was bad and we got one blocked... those were team errors.'' - Tennessee Titans HC Jeff Fisher about 9 hours ago from web

"I think he probably tried to kick it a little too wide. We can't have that." - Special teams coordinator Ted Daisher http://bit.ly/Vas8c about 9 hours ago from web

History of Kicking 1964 - AFL Buffalo Bills sign Pete Gogolak (Cornell), the first soccer style kicker about 18 hours ago from web

Joe D making immediate impact on Dallas' K game http://bit.ly/ogAGl #NFL about 19 hours ago from web

 

[QuizGuy66]

For those planning to participate in UFL fantasy leagues, here's a listing of the specialists in training camps: LINK

Herman is master of the craft, no doubt!

 

[Mike Herman]

"Kickoffs torque on (the abdomen) a little more. For how it felt on field goals, I don't see any problems with kickoffs." -GB K Mason Crosby about 1 hour ago from web

“I just had a lot of people sitting on me, sitting on the back of my head." - New England kicker Stephen Gostkowski http://bit.ly/6mptV #NFL about 1 hour ago from web

Teams Talk: kicker Joe Nedney on Seattle http://bit.ly/4xDK8F #NFL about 1 hour ago from web

RT @Greg_A_Bedard Mason Crosby is kicking today. #packers about 16 hours ago from web

History of Kicking 1967 - Jim Bakken, St. Louis, attempted nine FGs (most in one game) and made seven (5-way tie for second most) #NFL about 16 hours ago from web

RT @Jennyvrentas More science in sports, this tiime on Jeff Feagles and his directional punting: http://bit.ly/4hJGT0 about 22 hours ago from web

"We're being very careful with [Mason Crosby] so he's ready to go." - Green Bay special teams coordinator Shawn Slocum http://bit.ly/146N09 about 23 hours ago from web

 

[stuckinthemuck]

Thanks for your updates. I'm a slightly nervous Crosby owner. Even if he plays I wonder if they will limit his FG's to ~40 yards and less. It makes a big difference in leagues that award bonus points for longer FG's.

 

[KingEl]

Any worries that Elam will be limited this Sunday? He was on the injury report a bunch last year and I started him with no problems. Clearly though, last week he struggled.. Any homers have any word on what to expect this week or is he 100%?

 

[Mike Herman]

Mason Crosby's Abdomen

 

[Mike Herman]

For those who are scouting for their dynasty league(s):

Big Kickers on Campus, week 3

 

[gbill2004]

Whats the word on Jason Elam's hamstring injury? He missed 2/4 FGs last week, and an extra point.

 

[Mike Herman]

Kickology blog: North of the Border Records http://bit.ly/10chNj #CFL 13 minutes ago from web

RT @Football_Fanz #nfl #ravens Big moment for Steve Hauschka: (Via Ravens Insider) A big moment for the Ravens was... http://bit.ly/9KCjp about 3 hours ago from web

Atlanta Falcons punter Michael Koenen sent all five of his kickoffs in the back of the end zone for touchbacks http://bit.ly/txXQE #NFL about 5 hours ago from web

“I’m the final piece of the puzzle. Those guys did their job, and I was lucky enough to make it.” - Bears' Robbie Gould http://bit.ly/eW3Eu about 5 hours ago from web

Tennessee Titans kicker Rob Bironas handled punting yesterday after punter Craig Hentrich suffered a calf injury http://bit.ly/1htQNg # NFL about 5 hours ago from web

Kicker Lawrence Tynes' 37 yard FG as time expires gives the New York Giants a 33-31 win over the Dallas Cowboys #NFL about 5 hours ago from web

Carolina Panthers kickoff specialist and tweeter Rhys Lloyd placed 4-of-5 kickoffs in the end zone with two touchbacks http://bit.ly/RdXXS about 13 hours ago from web

Robbie Gould kicked a 44 yard FG with 15 seconds remaining to give Bears a 17-14 victory over Steelers http://bit.ly/37sKw #NFL about 14 hours ago from web

RT @bucsbuzztap The Tampa Tribune >> Lindell's fourth FG gives Bills 33-20 lead http://bit.ly/1KiM5j about 14 hours ago from web

New England Patriots' only scoring is three Stephen Gostkowski FGs in 16-9 loss to New York Jets. #NFL about 17 hours ago from web

RT @bgnewssports Former Falcon Shaun Suisham leads Washington over St. Louis with three field goals in 9-7 win. #NFL about 17 hours ago from web

Final score... RT @thetexans Kris Brown's 23-yard FG gives the Texans a 34-31 lead with 2:55 left in the contest. about 17 hours ago from web

Kickology: Big Kickers on Campus, week 3 http://bit.ly/QZlVH #NCAA 7:43 AM Sep 20th from web

 

[Mike Herman]

RT @STEELERSpeeps Steelers' Jeff Reed: No excuse for career-worst game http://FANpeeps.com/-2QBA #steelers #nfl 35 minutes ago from web

RT @dmn_cowboys Wade Phillips' ice the kicker philosophy: Wade Phillips is on record that he does not like the rule... http://bit.ly/3E2DSt 38 minutes ago from web

RT @nsidenashville Fisher not saying if Hentrich’s season is over: Tennessee punter Craig Hentrich isn't likely to... http://bit.ly/17icw9 40 minutes ago from web

Lou Groza National Collegiate Place Kicker Award: “Stars of the Week” 9/21/09 - Erik Folk, Alex Henery & Richard Jackson http://bit.ly/dgrBn about 6 hours ago from web

 

[Mike Herman]

Kickology: NFL Week Two K Quotes http://bit.ly/3KioNt

 

[Eagle Eye]

Hey Capy,

What's your take on the NO situation? Will Carney keep the job?

 

[QuizGuy66]

Excellent post on the cincyjungle blog about Future Hall Of Fame Punter Kevin Huber. This is the field position the opponent started out with after Huber's punts so far. He's on pace for 56 inside-the-20 punts! Linky

1. DEN-16

2. DEN-16

3. DEN-18

4. DEN-14

5. DEN-5

6. DEN-34

7. DEN-35

8. GB-10 (originally a touchback; Packers were called for holding)

9. GB-4

10. GB-16 (originally kicked to the GB-26 yard-line; Packers were called for holding)

11. GB-15

-QG

 

[Mike Herman]

Graham Gano plays waiting game: Kicker pounds footballs as he awaits call from NFL http://bit.ly/KGjAd about 5 hours ago from TweetDeck

History of kicking 1974 - kickoffs were moved from the 40 back to the 35-yard line #NFL about 19 hours ago from TweetDeck

Rian Lindell is AFC Special Teams Player of the Week http://bit.ly/h7mqZ #NFL about 21 hours ago from web

RT @ProFootballTalk Titans now have three punters http://tinyurl.com/mgpvt4 #NFL about 22 hours ago from web

History of Kicking 1600 B.C. - oldest Mesoamerican ball court, discovered in Mexico. Mayans adopted the earlier game of Pitz into Pok-A-Tok. 10:25 AM Sep 23rd from web

RT @CincyJungle Kevin Huber is on pace to shatter the NFL single-season record for punts inside-the-20 http://bit.ly/13h4Pv 8:12 AM Sep 23rd from web

"I chit chatted with Jeff [Reed], but kicking is not in my area of expertise." - Steelers HC Mike Tomlin http://bit.ly/3cPho #NFL 5:58 AM Sep 23rd from web

RT @ArrowheadPride Appreciating What We Have in P Dustin Colquitt http://sbnation.com/e/814819 9:20 PM Sep 22nd from web

Punters A.J. Trapasso, Glenn Pakulak, Reggie Hodges and Ricky Schmitt all worked out for the Tennessee Titans today http://bit.ly/16Zi1r 8:47 PM Sep 22nd from web

Kickology blog: NFL Week Two K Quotes http://bit.ly/3KioNt 1:24 PM Sep 22nd from web

RT @FollowNYGiants NY DAILY NEWS, Lupica: Lawrence Tynes beats Cowboys (twice) but timeout rule should get kicked out http://bit.ly/jkrEU 11:02 AM Sep 22nd from web

Pittsburgh Steelers kicker Jeff Reed still agonizing over two missed FGs http://bit.ly/15zVAU #NFL 10:59 AM Sep 22nd from web

"He's [Neil Rackers] a feisty little kicker who likes to mix it up. We like him." - WR Anquan Boldin http://bit.ly/qfwyf #NFL 5:11 AM Sep 22nd from web

RT @L_I_O_N_S Lions K Hanson solid, says he can do better: Lions kicker Jason Hanson looked like he never missed a step... http://bit.ly/g3Lm4 5:01 AM Sep 22nd from web in reply to L_I_O_N_S

RT @jayfeely That's a BIG kick by Carpenter. Trust me it's not easy kicking off infield dirt. 45yd to take lead late on Mon night vs Indy. 5:00 AM Sep 22nd from web