The 2025 Bloom 100 is.... Interesting (2 Viewers)

[KellysHeroes]

Its a very good product, but why such a big negative against the RB class which feels one of the best we've seen in a while. And I highly doubt I see Burden & Egbuka drafted at 4 & 5.

 

[mjb03003]

I agree. Historically have always been a huge fan of Bloom's work and his thinking has generally aligned pretty closely with mine. But this year? We're on completely different pages.

Seems like he's knocking a lot of the 2nd-4th round RBs for either landing spot, draft capital, quality of the offense they're entering, or all three. But then Burden and Egbuka rank 4 and 5 overall which seems to ignore the fact that they are entering extremely crowded passing attacks and may have to wait 1-2 years to see the volume needed to reach their WR2 ceilings.

Also, I don't necessarily disagree that trading back or out of the draft entirely if you can land proven veteran contributors, but that is much easier said than done. In this particular draft I think it may be easier and more beneficial to trade UP and consolidate draft capital into the top 16-20 picks. Even that may be easier said than done given rookie fever.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I agree. Historically have always been a huge fan of Bloom's work and his thinking has generally aligned pretty closely with mine. But this year? We're on completely different pages.

Seems like he's knocking a lot of the 2nd-4th round RBs for either landing spot, draft capital, quality of the offense they're entering, or all three. But then Burden and Egbuka rank 4 and 5 overall which seems to ignore the fact that they are entering extremely crowded passing attacks and may have to wait 1-2 years to see the volume needed to reach their WR2 ceilings.

Also, I don't necessarily disagree that trading back or out of the draft entirely if you can land proven veteran contributors, but that is much easier said than done. In this particular draft I think it may be easier and more beneficial to trade UP and consolidate draft capital into the top 16-20 picks. Even that may be easier said than done given rookie fever.

Here's what I will say...

1) I do think alot of the RB landing spots/combos were mediocre and in some ways muddied up situations that looked cleaner pre-draft.

2) I'm actually quietly bullish on Egbuka...here's why.

It's been established he took less money to stay in TB. 3 yrs/$66M. When he got injured, he was playing Top 5-7 WR level football. 6 months prior in a different league year, Brandon Aiyuk secured a 4 year/$120M deal. I mean the delta there is enormous. I wouldn't be surprised if TB was actually a bit surprised he accepted the offer...perhaps putting an offer on the table that says, we made a good faith effort - and low and behold.​

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I think back to Mark Andrews and Tony Pollard who suffered broken legs and struggled the following seasons coming back from them. And while not a doctor, the look of Godwin's sticks with you...and from that vantage point, I would classify as the most serious. So there is some exposure if TB was going into 2025 really relying on him to pick up where they left off.​

 

[KellysHeroes]

also, in no world can I justify Jalen Milroe in the top 15 in 1 QB or even SF League

 

[mjb03003]

I agree. Historically have always been a huge fan of Bloom's work and his thinking has generally aligned pretty closely with mine. But this year? We're on completely different pages.

Seems like he's knocking a lot of the 2nd-4th round RBs for either landing spot, draft capital, quality of the offense they're entering, or all three. But then Burden and Egbuka rank 4 and 5 overall which seems to ignore the fact that they are entering extremely crowded passing attacks and may have to wait 1-2 years to see the volume needed to reach their WR2 ceilings.

Also, I don't necessarily disagree that trading back or out of the draft entirely if you can land proven veteran contributors, but that is much easier said than done. In this particular draft I think it may be easier and more beneficial to trade UP and consolidate draft capital into the top 16-20 picks. Even that may be easier said than done given rookie fever.

Here's what I will say...

1) I do think alot of the RB landing spots/combos were mediocre and in some ways muddied up situations that looked cleaner pre-draft.

2) I'm actually quietly bullish on Egbuka...here's why.

It's been established he took less money to stay in TB. 3 yrs/$66M. When he got injured, he was playing Top 5-7 WR level football. 6 months prior in a different league year, Brandon Aiyuk secured a 4 year/$120M deal. I mean the delta there is enormous. I wouldn't be surprised if TB was actually a bit surprised he accepted the offer...perhaps putting an offer on the table that says, we made a good faith effort - and low and behold.​

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I think back to Mark Andrews and Tony Pollard who suffered broken legs and struggled the following seasons coming back from them. And while not a doctor, the look of Godwin's sticks with you...and from that vantage point, I would classify as the most serious. So there is some exposure if TB was going into 2025 really relying on him to pick up where they left off.​

I actually agree with what you're saying on Egbuka and think he becomes a value if he's available after pick 1.08 or so, which is what I'm expecting we'll see happen especially in SFlex/TE Prem leagues where he could fall to the 1/2 turn.

Perhaps we'll look back on this top 100 and Bloom will look smart for some of these takes, but I think the overall dour tone about this class is an overreaction. If the overall depth was hurt a bit by the RBs (that "third tier" Bloom refers to in the opening) lasting longer than some hope or expected, the top 2 rounds still look pretty strong. I believe the talent will eventually win out for these top rookies whose landing spots may look imperfect today.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I like the rankings, assuming this is more dynasty geared. I typically value WRs higher in dynasty is reflects closer how I would proceed. Certainly not to a tee, but I agree with the rational. I think this was a deep RB class with a lot of “good” but not “great” prospects.

 

[Buckna]

First time in a long time I find myself massively disagreeing with Bloom. The Hampton ranking in particular is bizarre. A 1st round RB landing in a Harbaugh offense ranked after multiple WR's and RB's drafted after him and into just as much and sometimes much more crowded situations? Bold take, I am assuming he must have been out on Hampton in the first place as a prospect. It may be right in the long run but I don't see how I can consider for example Burden who fell out of the 1st altogether over Hampton with 1st round RB capital.

The Milroe take is pretty early but I can somewhat understand just due to the fact that Bloom is always way higher on QB's every year than he should be in 1QB. I still remember when he had Trey Lance ranked at 6 overall in that post-draft.

 

[pinkstapler]

First time in a long time I find myself massively disagreeing with Bloom. The Hampton ranking in particular is bizarre. A 1st round RB landing in a Harbaugh offense ranked after multiple WR's and RB's drafted after him and into just as much and sometimes much more crowded situations? Bold take, I am assuming he must have been out on Hampton in the first place as a prospect. It may be right in the long run but I don't see how I can consider for example Burden who fell out of the 1st altogether over Hampton with 1st round RB capital.

The Milroe take is pretty early but I can somewhat understand just due to the fact that Bloom is always way higher on QB's every year than he should be in 1QB. I still remember when he had Trey Lance ranked at 6 overall in that post-draft.

Waldman was similarly low on Hampton and still is. Just the other day he said he thinks this Harbaugh took a new Gus Edwards. He was not being hyperbolic; it was his legitimate comp.

 

[Buckna]

First time in a long time I find myself massively disagreeing with Bloom. The Hampton ranking in particular is bizarre. A 1st round RB landing in a Harbaugh offense ranked after multiple WR's and RB's drafted after him and into just as much and sometimes much more crowded situations? Bold take, I am assuming he must have been out on Hampton in the first place as a prospect. It may be right in the long run but I don't see how I can consider for example Burden who fell out of the 1st altogether over Hampton with 1st round RB capital.

The Milroe take is pretty early but I can somewhat understand just due to the fact that Bloom is always way higher on QB's every year than he should be in 1QB. I still remember when he had Trey Lance ranked at 6 overall in that post-draft.

Waldman was similarly low on Hampton and still is. Just the other day he said he thinks this Harbaugh took a new Gus Edwards. He was not being hyperbolic; it was his legitimate comp.

Interesting take. Thanks for sharing that, makes sense then if don't like him at all in the first place. I did notice just now that there is ZERO variation in the top 10 for Blooms Pre-Draft vs his Post-Draft, I get that and a lot people argue you shouldn't let landing spot cloud your initial judgements but seems pretty unusual to not have not even a single ranking change. Especially for say Kaleb who went all the way near the end of 3rd over Judkins at the top of the 2nd (even if it was Cleveland.)

 

[pinkstapler]

First time in a long time I find myself massively disagreeing with Bloom. The Hampton ranking in particular is bizarre. A 1st round RB landing in a Harbaugh offense ranked after multiple WR's and RB's drafted after him and into just as much and sometimes much more crowded situations? Bold take, I am assuming he must have been out on Hampton in the first place as a prospect. It may be right in the long run but I don't see how I can consider for example Burden who fell out of the 1st altogether over Hampton with 1st round RB capital.

The Milroe take is pretty early but I can somewhat understand just due to the fact that Bloom is always way higher on QB's every year than he should be in 1QB. I still remember when he had Trey Lance ranked at 6 overall in that post-draft.

Waldman was similarly low on Hampton and still is. Just the other day he said he thinks this Harbaugh took a new Gus Edwards. He was not being hyperbolic; it was his legitimate comp.

Interesting take. Thanks for sharing that, makes sense then if don't like him at all in the first place. I did notice just now that there is ZERO variation in the top 10 for Blooms Pre-Draft vs his Post-Draft, I get that and a lot people argue you shouldn't let landing spot cloud your initial judgements but seems pretty unusual to not have not even a single ranking change. Especially for say Kaleb who went all the way near the end of 3rd over Judkins at the top of the 2nd (even if it was Cleveland.)

Yeah I don't follow Bloom as closely, but a weekly Waldman listener and outside Jeanty, he never had much praise for most of this RB class. Especially not the popular ones. He had Tahj Brooks in his top 5. And put a lot more focus on those day 3 backs who were/are more role players (Jordan James, Woody Marks, Breshad Smith, etc.) To be fair I think this was a value proposition for him. Like teams should maybe consider just taking those guys mid/late in the NFL draft over taking guys like Judkins/Henderson/Hampton/Johnson.

 

[Buckna]

First time in a long time I find myself massively disagreeing with Bloom. The Hampton ranking in particular is bizarre. A 1st round RB landing in a Harbaugh offense ranked after multiple WR's and RB's drafted after him and into just as much and sometimes much more crowded situations? Bold take, I am assuming he must have been out on Hampton in the first place as a prospect. It may be right in the long run but I don't see how I can consider for example Burden who fell out of the 1st altogether over Hampton with 1st round RB capital.

The Milroe take is pretty early but I can somewhat understand just due to the fact that Bloom is always way higher on QB's every year than he should be in 1QB. I still remember when he had Trey Lance ranked at 6 overall in that post-draft.

Waldman was similarly low on Hampton and still is. Just the other day he said he thinks this Harbaugh took a new Gus Edwards. He was not being hyperbolic; it was his legitimate comp.

Interesting take. Thanks for sharing that, makes sense then if don't like him at all in the first place. I did notice just now that there is ZERO variation in the top 10 for Blooms Pre-Draft vs his Post-Draft, I get that and a lot people argue you shouldn't let landing spot cloud your initial judgements but seems pretty unusual to not have not even a single ranking change. Especially for say Kaleb who went all the way near the end of 3rd over Judkins at the top of the 2nd (even if it was Cleveland.)

Yeah I don't follow Bloom as closely, but a weekly Waldman listener and outside Jeanty, he never had much praise for most of this RB class. Especially not the popular ones. He had Tahj Brooks in his top 5. And put a lot more focus on those day 3 backs who were/are more role players (Jordan James, Woody Marks, Breshad Smith, etc.) To be fair I think this was a value proposition for him. Like teams should maybe consider just taking those guys mid/late in the NFL draft over taking guys like Judkins/Henderson/Hampton/Johnson.

Yeah reading back through the Pre-Draft, Bloom is VERY down on this class altogether. Pretty much reiterates multiple times to trade down or trade out (which is wild considering 2026 consensus is it's a terrible class). Personally I don't see being down on this years class and think it's a very solid but I've seen some other posters on here say the same that they aren't liking this draft.

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[pinkstapler]

First time in a long time I find myself massively disagreeing with Bloom. The Hampton ranking in particular is bizarre. A 1st round RB landing in a Harbaugh offense ranked after multiple WR's and RB's drafted after him and into just as much and sometimes much more crowded situations? Bold take, I am assuming he must have been out on Hampton in the first place as a prospect. It may be right in the long run but I don't see how I can consider for example Burden who fell out of the 1st altogether over Hampton with 1st round RB capital.

The Milroe take is pretty early but I can somewhat understand just due to the fact that Bloom is always way higher on QB's every year than he should be in 1QB. I still remember when he had Trey Lance ranked at 6 overall in that post-draft.

Waldman was similarly low on Hampton and still is. Just the other day he said he thinks this Harbaugh took a new Gus Edwards. He was not being hyperbolic; it was his legitimate comp.

Interesting take. Thanks for sharing that, makes sense then if don't like him at all in the first place. I did notice just now that there is ZERO variation in the top 10 for Blooms Pre-Draft vs his Post-Draft, I get that and a lot people argue you shouldn't let landing spot cloud your initial judgements but seems pretty unusual to not have not even a single ranking change. Especially for say Kaleb who went all the way near the end of 3rd over Judkins at the top of the 2nd (even if it was Cleveland.)

Yeah I don't follow Bloom as closely, but a weekly Waldman listener and outside Jeanty, he never had much praise for most of this RB class. Especially not the popular ones. He had Tahj Brooks in his top 5. And put a lot more focus on those day 3 backs who were/are more role players (Jordan James, Woody Marks, Breshad Smith, etc.) To be fair I think this was a value proposition for him. Like teams should maybe consider just taking those guys mid/late in the NFL draft over taking guys like Judkins/Henderson/Hampton/Johnson.

Yeah reading back through the Pre-Draft, Bloom is VERY down on this class altogether. Pretty much reiterates multiple times to trade down or trade out (which is wild considering 2026 consensus is it's a terrible class). Personally I don't see it and think it's a very solid class but I've seen some other posters on here say the same that they aren't liking this draft.

The bolded is exactly what I heard and have been reading as well. I know it's incredibly early yet, but there are some red flags already about the QBs and WRs of 2026. And considering this year was strong for RB (at least going by most opinions) and TE, it's hard to think those will be much better next year too.

I already have 3 extra 2026 picks from trades last year. But the few I've have made in the past month or so, I've been adding 2027 instead picks as an arbitrage.

 

[Dez]

I like the rankings, assuming this is more dynasty geared. I typically value WRs higher in dynasty is reflects closer how I would proceed. Certainly not to a tee, but I agree with the rational. I think this was a deep RB class with a lot of “good” but not “great” prospects.

I like them too if my league mates use them.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I like the rankings, assuming this is more dynasty geared. I typically value WRs higher in dynasty is reflects closer how I would proceed. Certainly not to a tee, but I agree with the rational. I think this was a deep RB class with a lot of “good” but not “great” prospects.

I like them too if my league mates use them.

Time will tell, but I think this RB class ends up being a bit overrated.

 

[mjb03003]

I like the rankings, assuming this is more dynasty geared. I typically value WRs higher in dynasty is reflects closer how I would proceed. Certainly not to a tee, but I agree with the rational. I think this was a deep RB class with a lot of “good” but not “great” prospects.

I like them too if my league mates use them.

Time will tell, but I think this RB class ends up being a bit overrated.

Even if that ends up being true, all indications are that next year is worse so the advice to trade out into future draft capital is pretty sketchy.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I like the rankings, assuming this is more dynasty geared. I typically value WRs higher in dynasty is reflects closer how I would proceed. Certainly not to a tee, but I agree with the rational. I think this was a deep RB class with a lot of “good” but not “great” prospects.

I like them too if my league mates use them.

Time will tell, but I think this RB class ends up being a bit overrated.

Even if that ends up being true, all indications are that next year is worse so the advice to trade out into future draft capital is pretty sketchy.

I do not disagree. My overall point is I think even though it is considered a weaker WR class, I still have the top guys ahead of the most of the RBs (similar to how Bloom feels). I think there will be a lot of RBs from this class that hang around the NFL for a long time, I just do not see a lot that will garner 1A type loads.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Such a weird year for rankings, Its been 10 days since the draft and I have been in about 5 drafts and none of them have even come close to the FBG rankings. I'm not saying its some Mel Kiper stuff as FBG and community are almost always on point for the 1st 5 or so picks then it breaks off; this yr besides Jeanty being number 1 every draft I been in and the MFL ADP is completely different than the Rankings. Almost every league I have seen Jeanty is #1, then a flip between Hunter or Hampton as 2 and 3, then McMillian as 4 and almost usually Henderson or Judkins at 5... RBs FBG have at #9 and #15. Very interesting