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The Apple iPhone Thread (4 Viewers)

So radio shack just called me and told me they have an iPhone for me :bag:But I'm an hour away from the store and can't get there before 5 and the guy doesn't know if he can hold it for me because his boss wants it sold by 4pmThen he said they are requiring a purchase of apple care and an accessory. Is that a hustle?? Are either worth it? They still are giving me $200 for my 3GS. Should I go through them if they hold it and pay for those extras because they are giving me money for my old phone or should I say #### them and order from AT&T and sell on eBay? What's the going rate on eBay now anyway?
3GS are still going well over 300 working.
So I should say f radio shack? Is apple care something I should even be considering?
That's your call. Most people go with the shack because they have the availability. Depends on how much you are willing to wait. I don't know anything about apple care really to comment on that part.
apple care extends the one year limited warranty on the phone for another year. doesnt cover broken screens and stuff like that. only covers software issues and problems inside the phone. my speaker mic stopped working so they basically just gave me a new phone.
 
What's the best case that my 4 year old can't even break my phone in?
http://www.otterbox.com/iphone-cases/iphone-4-cases/
Otterboxes are good but so dang bulky, my wife uses one on her 3g. I don't know if they are still so big for the 4. I use an Incipio case for my 4 and I absolutely love it, it has a rubber cover that encases the phone as well as a hard back that goes over the rubber, it's not very big at all. It looks very stylish, that paired with an anti-scratch/glare screen is great!
 
My Mrs. got the Apple bumper for it yesterday and it's actually pretty slick.
After getting over the annoyance of 'having' to have it, I like it. It's a nice clean look/fit.Only beef is the old USB wires don't fit since the end that goes into the phone is a bit fatter than the newer ones.
I really don't want to have to get a case, but I also don't want to have to replace it if I break it.I'm torn.As for 'needing' a case for reception issues, I haven't really noticed it, to be honest my natural grip when I hold my phone is with my left hand, abut mostly with my fingers, my hands are too big to realistically palm the thing (like you need to do to cause issues) and still make a call without looking like a freak.
 
I rarely buy anything in itunes on the iphone, but there was a song I couldn't remember the name of that just came on the radio. So I just bought it on the phone. Holy crap this thing downloaded/processed the song so much faster than my PC that I use for itunes its not even funny. Granted this is a 10yr old Gateway, but holy crap. It's pretty cool that this tiny little phone kicks a full blown PCs butt. :lmao:

 
Ned said:
I rarely buy anything in itunes on the iphone, but there was a song I couldn't remember the name of that just came on the radio. So I just bought it on the phone. Holy crap this thing downloaded/processed the song so much faster than my PC that I use for itunes its not even funny. Granted this is a 10yr old Gateway, but holy crap. It's pretty cool that this tiny little phone kicks a full blown PCs butt. :goodposting:
Yeah, I try to use Itunes only for backups/restores/updates. Any app/media purchases done straight on the device.
 
I've been thinking about this one:

http://www.ivyskin.com/iphone-4-case/iphon...ption-case.html

It's clear polycarbonate, wafer-thin (.8mm sides, .6mm back), and comes with front and back screen guards if you use those. Costs $14.99 with $5.95 shipping, and you get a $15 credit toward their higher-end cases when those become available in August.
I ordered one of these.
:lmao: i just got the ZAGG Invisible Shield for my iP4, which I used on my 3G. i hate using cases. Try to keep it as slim and sleek as possible.
 
I've been thinking about this one:

http://www.ivyskin.com/iphone-4-case/iphon...ption-case.html

It's clear polycarbonate, wafer-thin (.8mm sides, .6mm back), and comes with front and back screen guards if you use those. Costs $14.99 with $5.95 shipping, and you get a $15 credit toward their higher-end cases when those become available in August.
I ordered one of these.
:lmao: i just got the ZAGG Invisible Shield for my iP4, which I used on my 3G. i hate using cases. Try to keep it as slim and sleek as possible.
I bought the clear Switch Easy Nude for iPhone 4. Should be here early this week so I'll let you know how I like it.
 
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so now im gonna unlock my 3g, how do i go about this?

ETA: is unlocking the same as jailbreaking?

 
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I've had every iteration of the iPhone (sans the 3GS) and I've never purchased a game until now....

That being said... Angry Birds = Crack.

 
so now im gonna unlock my 3g, how do i go about this?ETA: is unlocking the same as jailbreaking?
nope
:confused: Do you want to unlock or jailbreak?Unlock = Use another carrier (ie: T-Mobile)Jailbreak = Ability to fully control the device, edit previously hidden settings, access to an entirely new, free app store, with tons of cool stuff. Ability to download things straight to the phone from the phone etc.
 
so now im gonna unlock my 3g, how do i go about this?ETA: is unlocking the same as jailbreaking?
nope
:lmao: Do you want to unlock or jailbreak?Unlock = Use another carrier (ie: T-Mobile)Jailbreak = Ability to fully control the device, edit previously hidden settings, access to an entirely new, free app store, with tons of cool stuff. Ability to download things straight to the phone from the phone etc.
I would love to do both but can't get either to work on my 3G using my mac
 
Not happy right now.

I've had some shoddy reception the last few days and had two dropped calls today already. This is noticeably worse than the 3GS and I didn't think i was using the "death grip"

 
Synced mine up and using it right now. The resolution is way better on this thing. Text and pictures look awesome. Placed a few calls no problem. Haven't noticed the death grip thing too much. Maybe one or two bar loss from time to time bit nothing major. Have to get a new case for this.

I upgraded from the 3G so this is like night and day for me as I never owned an S. I'm still stoked about the compass.

 
Synced mine up and using it right now. The resolution is way better on this thing. Text and pictures look awesome. Placed a few calls no problem. Haven't noticed the death grip thing too much. Maybe one or two bar loss from time to time bit nothing major. Have to get a new case for this. I upgraded from the 3G so this is like night and day for me as I never owned an S. I'm still stoked about the compass.
What I love about the compass is that you can link it to google maps. I'm loving the invisishield, I had the cart girl at the mall put it on and it is not noticeable at all.
 
For a screen protector...Id highly recommend the boxwave clear touch. I just get the clear ones, but they make a supposed anti glare one too.

Love it and no liquid or strong adhesive to apply. Did it myself on my EVO and my wife's phone as well and they make them for the iPhones too.

It has a very mild adhesive on it. Got my wife's a bit off center so I had to peel it off and start again and there was nothing on it.

Have read where people took them off weeks after having them on and there was no residue leftover from the adhesive.

Love it for an extra piece of mind for anyone wanting a screen protector.

 
Consumer Reports weighs in:

iPhone 4's supposed signal woes aren’t unique, and may not be serious

The debate over the iPhone 4's supposed reception problems continues, including a new class-action suit. Underplayed in the discussion is the fact that all phones are subject to interference from the human who is using them. And even if the alleged signal loss is real, there's an absence of hard evidence that iPhone 4 reception is problematic compared to past iPhones; indeed, there's evidence of just the opposite.

For its part, Apple recently suggested that any iPhone 4 signal loss results from little more than faulty software that incorrectly displays signal strengths.

The software may, indeed be faulty, but the signal loss can be real. Holding the iPhone 4 in certain ways does cause signal loss. But that's the case with all cell phones. Indeed, all cell phones, from the mightiest smart phones to the most-basic flip models, must consistently overcome a major communication obstacle: you.

Your hand, your head, or any other part of your body that comes between the phone's antenna and the nearest cell tower will interfere with reception, and devilishly well. That's in part because humans are mostly made of water, and water is very good at blocking phone signals. Other confounding factors include nearby buildings, cell-tower location, and even the weather.

That interference is exacerbated if the phone's antenna is not insulated from human contact. And that seems to be the case with the iPhone's external antenna, which doubles as the phone's stylish metal outer band; your hand contacts the band as you cradle the phone.

Most of the Web sites reporting dropped signals and even dropped calls have demonstrated several techniques, or "death grips" for recreating the problem (which we've yet been able to reproduce in a meaningful way). But those almost always require squeezing the phone hard, in an unnatural way. Those grips may also produce sweaty palms from exertion, with the sweat increasing conductivity—and possibly the degree of signal loss.

Case closed, right? Well, no.

Even with that supposed handicap of an exposed antenna, iPhone 4 reception is actually better than on the 3GS according to many to some highly respectable and thorough testers, including AnandTech.com:

From my day of testing, I've determined that the iPhone 4 performs much better than the 3GS in situations where signal is very low, at -113 dBm (1 bar). Previously, dropping this low all but guaranteed that calls would drop, fail to be placed, and data would no longer be transacted at all. I can honestly say that I've never held onto so many calls and data simultaneously on 1 bar at -113 dBm as I have with the iPhone 4, so it's readily apparent that the new baseband hardware is much more sensitive compared to what was in the 3GS.

The authors did admit, however, that using a bumper, or some kind of insulating case allowed them to get even better performance:

With my bumper case on, I made it further into dead zones than ever before, and into marginal areas that would always drop calls without any problems at all. It's amazing really to experience the difference in sensitivity the iPhone 4 brings compared to the 3GS, and issues from holding the phone aside, reception is absolutely definitely improved. I felt like I was going places no iPhone had ever gone before. There's no doubt in my mind this iPhone gets the best cellular reception yet, even though measured signal is lower than the 3GS.

Bottom line: There's no reason, at least yet, to forgo buying an iPhone 4 over its reception concerns. And even if those do materialize, Apple's Steve Jobs helpfully reminds new iPhone buyers that "you can return your undamaged iPhone to any Apple Retail Store or the online Apple Store within 30 days of purchase for a full refund."

—Mike Gikas
they seem to have changed their stance...

Consumer Reports - Can't Recommend iphone 4

 
Consumer Reports weighs in:

iPhone 4's supposed signal woes aren’t unique, and may not be serious

The debate over the iPhone 4's supposed reception problems continues, including a new class-action suit. Underplayed in the discussion is the fact that all phones are subject to interference from the human who is using them. And even if the alleged signal loss is real, there's an absence of hard evidence that iPhone 4 reception is problematic compared to past iPhones; indeed, there's evidence of just the opposite.

For its part, Apple recently suggested that any iPhone 4 signal loss results from little more than faulty software that incorrectly displays signal strengths.

The software may, indeed be faulty, but the signal loss can be real. Holding the iPhone 4 in certain ways does cause signal loss. But that's the case with all cell phones. Indeed, all cell phones, from the mightiest smart phones to the most-basic flip models, must consistently overcome a major communication obstacle: you.

Your hand, your head, or any other part of your body that comes between the phone's antenna and the nearest cell tower will interfere with reception, and devilishly well. That's in part because humans are mostly made of water, and water is very good at blocking phone signals. Other confounding factors include nearby buildings, cell-tower location, and even the weather.

That interference is exacerbated if the phone's antenna is not insulated from human contact. And that seems to be the case with the iPhone's external antenna, which doubles as the phone's stylish metal outer band; your hand contacts the band as you cradle the phone.

Most of the Web sites reporting dropped signals and even dropped calls have demonstrated several techniques, or "death grips" for recreating the problem (which we've yet been able to reproduce in a meaningful way). But those almost always require squeezing the phone hard, in an unnatural way. Those grips may also produce sweaty palms from exertion, with the sweat increasing conductivity—and possibly the degree of signal loss.

Case closed, right? Well, no.

Even with that supposed handicap of an exposed antenna, iPhone 4 reception is actually better than on the 3GS according to many to some highly respectable and thorough testers, including AnandTech.com:

From my day of testing, I've determined that the iPhone 4 performs much better than the 3GS in situations where signal is very low, at -113 dBm (1 bar). Previously, dropping this low all but guaranteed that calls would drop, fail to be placed, and data would no longer be transacted at all. I can honestly say that I've never held onto so many calls and data simultaneously on 1 bar at -113 dBm as I have with the iPhone 4, so it's readily apparent that the new baseband hardware is much more sensitive compared to what was in the 3GS.

The authors did admit, however, that using a bumper, or some kind of insulating case allowed them to get even better performance:

With my bumper case on, I made it further into dead zones than ever before, and into marginal areas that would always drop calls without any problems at all. It's amazing really to experience the difference in sensitivity the iPhone 4 brings compared to the 3GS, and issues from holding the phone aside, reception is absolutely definitely improved. I felt like I was going places no iPhone had ever gone before. There's no doubt in my mind this iPhone gets the best cellular reception yet, even though measured signal is lower than the 3GS.

Bottom line: There's no reason, at least yet, to forgo buying an iPhone 4 over its reception concerns. And even if those do materialize, Apple's Steve Jobs helpfully reminds new iPhone buyers that "you can return your undamaged iPhone to any Apple Retail Store or the online Apple Store within 30 days of purchase for a full refund."

—Mike Gikas
they seem to have changed their stance...

Consumer Reports - Can't Recommend iphone 4
That's gonna leave a mark. :lmao:
 
Consumer Reports says that they can not recommend iPhone 4 - cite signal problem/dropped calls.

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/electroni...etwork-gsm.html

It's official. Consumer Reports' engineers have just completed testing the iPhone 4, and have confirmed that there is a problem with its reception. When your finger or hand touches a spot on the phone's lower left side—an easy thing, especially for lefties—the signal can significantly degrade enough to cause you to lose your connection altogether if you're in an area with a weak signal. Due to this problem, we can't recommend the iPhone 4.

We reached this conclusion after testing all three of our iPhone 4s (purchased at three separate retailers in the New York area) in the controlled environment of CU's radio frequency (RF) isolation chamber. In this room, which is impervious to outside radio signals, our test engineers connected the phones to our base-station emulator, a device that simulates carrier cell towers (see video: IPhone 4 Design Defect Confirmed). We also tested several other AT&T phones the same way, including the iPhone 3G S and the Palm Pre. None of those phones had the signal-loss problems of the iPhone 4.

Our findings call into question the recent claim by Apple that the iPhone 4's signal-strength issues were largely an optical illusion caused by faulty software that "mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength."

The tests also indicate that AT&T's network might not be the primary suspect in the iPhone 4's much-reported signal woes.

We did, however, find an affordable solution for suffering iPhone 4 users: Cover the antenna gap with a piece of duct tape or another thick, non-conductive material. It may not be pretty, but it works. We also expect that using a case would remedy the problem. We'll test a few cases this week and report back.

Apple iPhone 4 antenna gap problem tape cover-up solution dropped calls lost signalsThe signal problem is the reason that we did not cite the iPhone 4 as a "recommended" model, even though its score in our other tests placed it atop the latest Ratings of smart phones that were released today.

The iPhone scored high, in part because it sports the sharpest display and best video camera we've seen on any phone, and even outshines its high-scoring predecessors with improved battery life and such new features as a front-facing camera for video chats and a built-in gyroscope that turns the phone into a super-responsive game controller. But Apple needs to come up with a permanent—and free—fix for the antenna problem before we can recommend the iPhone 4.
:lmao:
 
I'm still rocking my 3gs, but is anyone else experiencing new issues after the iOS4 update?

I'm dropping out of Apps for no reason and today my iphone decided to tell me that "charging with this device is not supported" about my car charger that I've been using for a year with no problems.

Anyone else having new issues after updating to iOS4?

 
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HOLY ####! It just fell off my desk and its ok! Had it plugged into my tower charging and I heard something hit the ground. I pretty much had a heart attack. Buying a case after work. Have no idea how it slipped off like that unless I tugged the cable without realizing it, no carpeting on the floor either.

 
I'm still rocking my 3gs, but is anyone else experiencing new issues after the iOS4 update?

I'm dropping out of Apps for no reason and today my iphone decided to tell me that "charging with this device is not supported" about my car charger that I've been using for a year with no problems.

Anyone else having new issues after updating to iOS4?
The only issue I've had with iOS4 (actually started with a 3.x update) was that my US-Spec vehicle interface doesn't support playback with newer OS's. Turns out you have to send the device in for a firmware update, you can't update the firmware on your own. :lmao:
 
I'm still rocking my 3gs, but is anyone else experiencing new issues after the iOS4 update? I'm dropping out of Apps for no reason and today my iphone decided to tell me that "charging with this device is not supported" about my car charger that I've been using for a year with no problems. Anyone else having new issues after updating to iOS4?
I had those same issues with my 3Gs after updating as well.
 
My local AT&T store had run out, just like the other two in town. So I decided to just order it online and pay the extra $10 to have it in 2-3 days. So can I expect my phone to get to my house in 3 days at the most? Or will it be more like 5-7 days? I'm hoping for 3 days because I won't be at my house until Thursday or Friday, and I honestly think I might cry if it's stolen. (there's a ghetto apartment complex directly across the street from my house).

And will I still be able to restore the iPhone 4 so that all my contacts/apps/texts/songs will be on it?

 
And will I still be able to restore the iPhone 4 so that all my contacts/apps/texts/songs will be on it?
i backed up my 3g in itunes and went to the at&t store and had them activate my new phone. went home, plugged the ip4 into itunes and restored from my previous iphone. good to go.
 

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