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bigbottom
Footballguy
Thanks. Does the very slightly larger display in surface area computation for the iPhone X take into account the rounded corners and the notch?
Yeah, and the aspect ratio issue is a not insubstantial one for me as the screen size for viewing 16:9 movies is noticeably smaller, and the narrower screen tends to make type smaller when using apps in portrait mode.
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Gianni Verscotchie
Footballguy
I've had good luck with squaretrade on my iphones. All repairs done at apple store. Squaretrade reimbursed within a couple of days. Cancel anytime for a pro-rata refund.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
Exactly that comes down to your preference:
• Better quality display (colors/contrast/brightness/pixel density) in a smaller form factor with minimal bezels
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• Larger videos via better utilization of screen real estate by way of 16:9 aspect ratio
Type size can be adjusted and I have good vision so that's not really a concern for me, but perhaps for some I guess it may be.
For me I'd rather not have to lug around the bigger phone, and get the benefits of the quality of the OLED display, while giving up a bit of size on the display. Others may prefer the display size over quality and not mind the larger form factor. I'm glad Apple offers both devices so everyone is happy.
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bigbottom
Footballguy
Another thing I just realized. With the notch reducing the space for icons at the top of the screen, you are no longer able to see if your alarm is set by looking for the alarm icon at the top of the screen. You have to swipe down to view the settings to confirm your alarm is set. That’s a bit of a bummer. Hopefully Apple will eventually allow you to customize what icons appear up at the top of the screen.
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Insoxicated
Okay... i actually picked up a small meter for testing electrical current and am testing the actual power delivery from various Qi and "Fast" chargers...
iPhone 8/X is reportedly going to be able to accept up to 7.5W of power via wireless Qi charging, and there is some debate as to the wired USBC "Fast Charging" max throughput (some say 29W, some say less). The standard block is caped at 5W with 2.1A blocks capable of delivering up to 10W.
I picked up this cheap $15 Qi charger which comes WITH a nice Qualcomm 3.0 Quick Charge charging block, and the USB to MicroUSB cable to connect to the charging base. The block is rated to deliver 18W of power. With my phone on the charging pad it maxed out around 5.9W of power draw, which is just shy of the 7.5W cap imposed by Apple.
Is this a limitation of the charger, or has apple yet to unlock the fastest charging speeds? My guess is, given the 10W rating of this charging pad, Apple hasn't unlocked the faster speeds yet.
When I get home I'm going to test the other $15 Qi Pad I purchased (That did NOT come with a charging block), to see what it can deliver. I'll use the same charging block to test it, then try both with a 30W charging block to ensure it's not the block slowing things down.
Then I'll test the 30W block and generic USBC>Lightning cable I grabbed to see what the max wired Wattage I'm able to get.
Goal here is I'm curious if there are cheap/generic options that are able to achieve the max charging speeds.
iPhone 8/X is reportedly going to be able to accept up to 7.5W of power via wireless Qi charging, and there is some debate as to the wired USBC "Fast Charging" max throughput (some say 29W, some say less). The standard block is caped at 5W with 2.1A blocks capable of delivering up to 10W.
I picked up this cheap $15 Qi charger which comes WITH a nice Qualcomm 3.0 Quick Charge charging block, and the USB to MicroUSB cable to connect to the charging base. The block is rated to deliver 18W of power. With my phone on the charging pad it maxed out around 5.9W of power draw, which is just shy of the 7.5W cap imposed by Apple.
Is this a limitation of the charger, or has apple yet to unlock the fastest charging speeds? My guess is, given the 10W rating of this charging pad, Apple hasn't unlocked the faster speeds yet.
When I get home I'm going to test the other $15 Qi Pad I purchased (That did NOT come with a charging block), to see what it can deliver. I'll use the same charging block to test it, then try both with a 30W charging block to ensure it's not the block slowing things down.
Then I'll test the 30W block and generic USBC>Lightning cable I grabbed to see what the max wired Wattage I'm able to get.
Goal here is I'm curious if there are cheap/generic options that are able to achieve the max charging speeds.
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Insoxicated
Yeah I THINK 11.2 is in beta now and includes live wallpapers and all sorts of other stuff. My GUESS is that includes support for "quick charging" but I'm going to check data on everything before/after either way out of dorky curiosity.
At the very least I'd like to be able to offer guidance to you guys on good cheap options that still take full advantage of the quick charging capabilities.
Monkeyface Prickleback
Footballguy
What carrier should I get the X from? I'm in a large market and so coverage is not a big issue, as most carriers are not much different nowadays, correct? I am more interested in the best deal and plan. Sprint is offering $300 off if I'm not mistaken and that's about all I know at this point.
BTW, my contract with Verizon is up and I am dying to dump them so I'd like to leave them out of the equation. Thanks.
BTW, my contract with Verizon is up and I am dying to dump them so I'd like to leave them out of the equation. Thanks.
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Insoxicated
Avoid ATT (and one other carrier, forget who) if you can because your phone may not have all the radios to run on all networks. Verizon and most others are compatible with GSM and CDMA. I may be wrong here, others confirm?
Ned
Footballguy
Anyone else noticing iOS 11 being buggy? Most of these are the finer details that I've come to expect Apple to have squared away. :(
- "I" is being auto corrected to that A and some weird symbol. Annoying as hell.
- Phone will randomly not auto-sleep.
- Text messages won't always scroll to the bottom, forcing you to leave the app and go back in (iMessage).
- Home screen keeps trying to re-center itself at times, making it shift up/down (albeit slightly up/down).
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Insoxicated
It's happened twice now... not a big deal, but seems to be a bug with the Camera app:
Rarely, when I open the camera app, the camera appears to refuse to focus, leaving the image very blurry.
• Switching to the 2x camera doesn't help (meaning it's not an issue with the lens)
• Using camera in other apps (like snapseed) work fine (meaning it's likely an issue with the app, not hardware).
• Closing the app and relaunching it doesn't help
• The only way to return the camera to normal is to reboot the phone.
On my old iPhone 6 I had occasionally some issues with the camera app (camera opened to black screen), and I THINK I recall it opening to blurry screen like this but not sure... meaning it MAY not be an iPhone X issue... but wanted to check here.
Rarely, when I open the camera app, the camera appears to refuse to focus, leaving the image very blurry.
• Switching to the 2x camera doesn't help (meaning it's not an issue with the lens)
• Using camera in other apps (like snapseed) work fine (meaning it's likely an issue with the app, not hardware).
• Closing the app and relaunching it doesn't help
• The only way to return the camera to normal is to reboot the phone.
On my old iPhone 6 I had occasionally some issues with the camera app (camera opened to black screen), and I THINK I recall it opening to blurry screen like this but not sure... meaning it MAY not be an iPhone X issue... but wanted to check here.
Ned
Footballguy
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
I have had the 8+ for a couple months (i think) and zero scratches. It's holding up very well.
It is pretty slippery - it fell out of my pocket a couple of weeks ago when I was getting out of my truck. It landed on the top left corner onto the asphalt parking lot. It got a tiny nick in the metal band and didn't harm the glass on the front/back at all. It was laying face down when I picked it up and I thought I was screwed.
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Insoxicated
To be fair devices have gotten infinitely more powerful and the operating systems have gotten significantly more complex as we've asked much more from them. I recall horrific bugs and instability in my old pre-iPhone smartphones. The iOS ecosystem is still by far the most stable, secure mobile platform around.
Sure. But that doesn't excuse things that just feel super glitchy like an i turning into a weird symbol. I get it that Footballguys might make a gaffe like that. It seems different with Apple. And I'm not comparing to pre iphone days which seems like ancient times. I mean in the last 5 years, it feels to me like Apple isn't the rock solid bug free product it used to be.
And to be clear. I'm 100% Apple. From iphone to desktop to laptop to ipads. My point wasn't if it's better than Windows or Android. My point was Apple products feel way more glitchy than they used to.
It's funny to me in that grip actually seems like the reason I use a case. I hate the bulkiness and just use the slim leather apple case. But it's just as much for a bit of traction not to slide across the table than it is protection.I have had the 8+ for a couple months (i think) and zero scratches. It's holding up very well.
It is pretty slippery - it fell out of my pocket a couple of weeks ago when I was getting out of my truck. It landed on the top left corner onto the asphalt parking lot. It got a tiny nick in the metal band and didn't harm the glass on the front/back at all. It was laying face down when I picked it up and I thought I was screwed.
Ned
Footballguy
That's exactly why I used that leather case on my 6+. The aluminum back was crazy slick! This new glass isn't as bad, but still slick.
I just really enjoy the naked feel
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I think they sometimes get caught up in perfecting the really complex things and can very occasionally let something mundane slip through the cracks. I mean I was expecting various bugs with the face recognition and it's been flawless so far. I was also expecting issues with the new IOS without the home button, but that has worked exceedingly well (besides the quirk on actually closing an app).
On the other side of the ledger is more mundane stuff like the Podcast app is harder to work through now, having to hold the flashlight to come on is annoying, and I hate the new App store.
Quick thing as I'm too lazy to look up online. Is it true the X doesn't allow the % battery life to be shown without a gesture?
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Insoxicated
I'm not sure you read my post but I'll elaborate, I guess. I agree there are more glitches in the last 5 years
I suspect these are due to increasing demands from our phones and resulting complexity of added interfaces/applications/functionality.
These phones are:
• more protocols (bluetooth, wifi, biometric scanning, touchless payments)
• interacting with more devices (speakers, watches, thermostats, security systems, Grills, etc)
• being loaded with more and more apps (I have like 300 on my phone alone)
• being interacted with in increasingly complex ways (gestures, force touch, ambient light accelerometers, GPS, haptic feedback, qi charging, etc)
These are INCREDIBLY complex devices trying to interact with a massive amount of 3rd party devices over an increasing number of protocols and formats. When apple had complete control over the ecosystem and was nothing more than a phone, a texting device, and a web browser... it was easy for things to "Just work". Now they've opened up support/interface with an astounding number of devices/protocols... with that comes growing pains.
That said, we are looking at an X.1 version of a new OS on the first generation of a new device that's added several new tech components in the midst of an explosion of "internet of things".... as someone who's been using my iPhone X for a week now I'll say I'm shocked at how smooth/stable it has been, given what we're expecting of it.
All ecosystems are experiencing these growing pains as the role of mobile platforms increases. The mobile space, as a whole, is doing astoundingly well given how complex it has gotten in only the last few years.
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bigbottom
Footballguy
Yes, that's true. It just shows the battery icon with estimated life left. You have to swipe down to view the control center to see the percentage. Again, I wish they would allow you to switch the battery icon with the percentage.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Has there been an announcement or rumor regarding customizability? Or is your expectation based on demand/complaints?
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Insoxicated
100% the latter… I have seen nothing to confirm it, but it’s an easy and commonsense adjustment to make in future versions
Thanks bb. I know it's stupid but I find myself hung up on super minor things like that. 1st world problems I know. "This computer in my pocket won't show me the exact percentage of battery life!!!" SMH
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bigbottom
Footballguy
It's the simple things sometimes. By trying to eliminate the bezel, they create the notch, which eliminates a number of things you were always used to being able to see immediately when you look at your phone - battery percentage, whether Bluetooth is active, and whether your alarm is set. Is eliminating the bezel cool? Sure. Are face recognition and a much-improved reverse camera great advances? Absolutely. But those require the notch, and implementing the notch results in elimination of some of the simple things that we have grown to expect.
For sure. Like so many things, it's about prioritizing and trade offs.
On the face recognition, what's been the vibe there? I ask in that I can think of few features that work better than the thumbprint unlock on my iphone 6. It's perfect. Secure and easy and natural and I'll say works 99.5% of the time. When it doesn't, it's for good reason and the backup to enter the code is super easy.
So why the facial recognition?
It seems to me if face recognition had been first and the thumbprint had come later, people would be raving about how awesome an improvement the thumbprint was that now you could discreetly open the phone.
bigbottom
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Facial works as well as thumb for me. When unlocking it's roughly the same speed (slower if you don't have the tap-swipe thing down pat)... but when already in hand and in use (ie in app purchases, apple pay, etc) it's absolutely effortless/seamless.
The only time I've had issues with Face ID is if I'm looking at the phone in the middle of the night and my contacts aren't in (terrible vision) and I have the phone too close to my face, it may not unlock. (anything closer than ~6" is too close). It works well with hats. I've got a cold and it's scanned fine with me covering my mouth as I cough. etc.
If you find the backup code to be "super easy" it's the same with FaceID when you need to use it.
Overall for Me: I prefer FaceID. It feels like I'm not actually doing anything to unlock the phone. Simply raise the phone and swiping up to bring up the homescreen. Others may feel differently. I personally frequently had issues with wet/sweaty fingertips if I was the shower/pool/beach or if I had sweaty hands while working in the yard, running, working out etc.... It seemed like I was always having to try to scan 2-3 times, wiping my finger off, etc. Those issues are gone for FaceID, for me.
The only time I've had issues with Face ID is if I'm looking at the phone in the middle of the night and my contacts aren't in (terrible vision) and I have the phone too close to my face, it may not unlock. (anything closer than ~6" is too close). It works well with hats. I've got a cold and it's scanned fine with me covering my mouth as I cough. etc.
If you find the backup code to be "super easy" it's the same with FaceID when you need to use it.
Overall for Me: I prefer FaceID. It feels like I'm not actually doing anything to unlock the phone. Simply raise the phone and swiping up to bring up the homescreen. Others may feel differently. I personally frequently had issues with wet/sweaty fingertips if I was the shower/pool/beach or if I had sweaty hands while working in the yard, running, working out etc.... It seemed like I was always having to try to scan 2-3 times, wiping my finger off, etc. Those issues are gone for FaceID, for me.
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Otis
Footballguy
This was driving me bonkers. Finally figured out they fixed it with a patch, but super annoying for a few days.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
I’ve had the same experience. I prefer Face ID. But like you said I have the same issue with it in the middle of the night. But not a big deal.Facial works as well as thumb for me. When unlocking it's roughly the same speed (slower if you don't have the tap-swipe thing down pat)... but when already in hand and in use (ie in app purchases, apple pay, etc) it's absolutely effortless/seamless.
The only time I've had issues with Face ID is if I'm looking at the phone in the middle of the night and my contacts aren't in (terrible vision) and I have the phone too close to my face, it may not unlock. (anything closer than ~6" is too close). It works well with hats. I've got a cold and it's scanned fine with me covering my mouth as I cough. etc.
If you find the backup code to be "super easy" it's the same with FaceID when you need to use it.
Overall for Me: I prefer FaceID. It feels like I'm not actually doing anything to unlock the phone. Simply raise the phone and swiping up to bring up the homescreen. Others may feel differently. I personally frequently had issues with wet/sweaty fingertips if I was the shower/pool/beach or if I had sweaty hands while working in the yard, running, working out etc.... It seemed like I was always having to try to scan 2-3 times, wiping my finger off, etc. Those issues are gone for FaceID, for me.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Do the apps that utilized fingerprint identification now use Face ID?
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Anyone got a case yet they can recommend for the iPhone X? Need a case for the teens.
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Insoxicated
Yes.
In that way in app payments or authentication is invisible and require no effort/action since you’re already looking at the phone. That’s the best part.
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
I don’t have my X yet. I’m partial to the Tech21 Evo softcase line like the Check. Pair it with a glass screen protector for a minimal solution. The tactile edge is comfortable and grippy.
No broken phones between me and my two girls, ages 12 and 14.
I still say that Apple could still have exquisite design even if they added a tactile band around the exterior edge of the iphones. Really no reason to make them SO slippery other than to sell cases and maybe to cut down on Apple Care screen replacements which adds to profits when customers don’t use the coverage.
Monkeyface Prickleback
Footballguy
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
Apologize if this is a Honda, but has anyone bought one of those adapters that allow you to attach headphones and a charger? I bought this one before a long bus ride, and several times in the middle of the night it failed and I started playing music over the speaker. (Very Bad at 3am!!) Anyone have any luck?
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
What do you recommend getting for a few backup chargers?
Can you still charge the old jack way?
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Another dumb question: I have the 6s and the X comes next week, Does it come with a wireless charging pad?
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Insoxicated
I like this charger at $15 as it comes with a Qualcomm 3.0 Quickcharge block. It's only one coil, so you have to center the phone on it pretty reasonably but it's not as big a hassle as some would have you believe.
Yes you can still charge with regular old lighting cord and block (6 watts). I'd suggest a 2.1A block with the standard cord to double it to 12W charging rate.
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Insoxicated
No. iPhone X comes with standard 1A USB Charging block and standard USB>lightning cable.
Power delivery BEFORE Quickcharge iOS update from Apple... Per my testing:
• Standard 1A USB Block + Standard USB>Lightning cable - 5-6 Watts
• This 10W Qi Charger with included Qualcomm quickcharge block: 6W (reportedly should increase to 7.5W with update)
• These cheapo 2A charging blocks with standard USB>Lightning cord: 13W
• Nice 29W Charging block plus generic USBC>Lightning Charging cord: 14W (reportedly should increase to 20+W with update)
The projected increases with update are just what I'm reading. I can't guarantee anything obviously.
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