The Avengers (1 Viewer)

[JZilla]

That was pretty good, what was Hellboy doing out in space at the end?

 

[The Duff Man]

That was pretty good, what was Hellboy doing out in space at the end?

Courting death.

 

[Mjolnirs]

I finally saw this tonight and really enjoyed it and can't wait to go again! I've seen multiple posts about seeing the movie with kids. My theater was packed with kids 10 and under and there were even a couple of toddlers! Less than a minute into the movie there was a crying baby in the crowd.

I loved it when Hulk couldn't pick Mjolnir up.

It would be nice if, after Disney makes a fortune off this movie, they throw some of it to Andrew Stanton for a John Carter sequel. They so screwed the pooch on selling that movie while using their full force on this one.

 

[NewlyRetired]

It would be nice if, after Disney makes a fortune off this movie, they throw some of it to Andrew Stanton for a John Carter sequel.

you will be starring in Avenger 2 before Disney spends a dime on a John Carter sequel.

 

[Mjolnirs]

It would be nice if, after Disney makes a fortune off this movie, they throw some of it to Andrew Stanton for a John Carter sequel.

you will be starring in Avenger 2 before Disney spends a dime on a John Carter sequel.

Sadly you're right, but I can dream.Wait, my username will be in Avenger 2

 

[Steed]

Didn't Thor lose his ability to pick up Mjolnir? What was that all about?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Didn't Thor lose his ability to pick up Mjolnir? What was that all about?

In the movie Thor, Thor is stripped of his godly power by Odin for failing to follow his orders and hurting the truce. Once stripped he could not lift Mjolnir as Odin cast a spell on the hammer that it could only be lifted by someone worthy.

 

[Mad Cow]

Took my 12 yr old son to see this for the first time, my second. It was as awesome the second time for me, and it was great seeing his reaction to so many great parts. He loved Hulk vs Loki

 

[netnalp]

I'm not familiar with Thanos, but is there any chance the character is Apocalypse? He has a purple face too right? Or was Apocalypse exclusively an X-Men villain?

I'd love to see Apocalypse in XMen, but that villain you saw was in fact Thanos.

Apocalypse and the mutant massacre storyline would be good. They'd probably have to find a way to explain Thor in the sewers or write him out because I don't see them pursuing the "Thunder Frog" story.

 

[jdoggydogg]

The Avengers are the greatest collection of super heroes ever assembled..... and a guy who uses a bow and arrow

Hawkeye is awesome. Don't be a hater.

I think that if all the Avengers were essentially invulnerable, it'd be less interesting. Hawkeye offers a bit of a human component in contrast to all the superpowers.

How would you rank them based on effectivness ?

I'm not saying Hawkeye is just as effective. I'm saying his mortality is a good contrast.

 

[netnalp]

saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villain.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower

Just a question from a novice in Avenger's lore. Why Thanos? What's the thinking here? Why pick him as the next villain? Does he have some unique connection to the Avevengers? I've looked him up in The Marvel Encyclopedia and he has a small section, but no where near what I would think would be enough to make him a "main" villain. Just curious. Somebody that has followed The Avengers forever please answer.

He's one of the more powerful entities in the Marvel universe, so he's part of a small handful of villains that make sense for the Avengers.

and not sure why they would pick him. Sometimes the more God like Space beings do not translate well to the screen.

I have wondered why Iron mans villian hasnt been Mandarian yet.

A supervillian team ala - the masters of evil - Zemo, enchantress, ultron et. all would make more sense.

Rumor is the bald guy from the 1st Iron Man might be the Mandarin, as he belongs to an organization called the Ten Rings. They may have not wanted the same villain in both movies, also I read that the director of the 1st two Iron Man's was concerned with Mandarin because he's magical and was concerned about going that way. He spoke of having Mandarin be more of a technological villain. Though, the Avengers has now opened things up, magic has appeared in Iron Man's world.

 

[netnalp]

The Avengers are the greatest collection of super heroes ever assembled..... and a guy who uses a bow and arrow

Hawkeye is awesome. Don't be a hater.

I think that if all the Avengers were essentially invulnerable, it'd be less interesting. Hawkeye offers a bit of a human component in contrast to all the superpowers.

Hawkeye and Black Widow add knowledge of gov agencies and espionage skills. That's not skills the rest have.

 

[netnalp]

Didn't Thor lose his ability to pick up Mjolnir? What was that all about?

In the movie Thor, Thor is stripped of his godly power by Odin for failing to follow his orders and hurting the truce. Once stripped he could not lift Mjolnir as Odin cast a spell on the hammer that it could only be lifted by someone worthy.

If you're worthy you can lift the hammer, and if you can lift the hammer you get the power of Thor. In the comics there is an alien that gains Thor's powers. Odin eventually makes a hammer like Thor's for the Alien.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Didn't Thor lose his ability to pick up Mjolnir? What was that all about?

In the movie Thor, Thor is stripped of his godly power by Odin for failing to follow his orders and hurting the truce. Once stripped he could not lift Mjolnir as Odin cast a spell on the hammer that it could only be lifted by someone worthy.

If you're worthy you can lift the hammer, and if you can lift the hammer you get the power of Thor. In the comics there is an alien that gains Thor's powers. Odin eventually makes a hammer like Thor's for the Alien.

Beta Ray Bill

 

[VA703]

new thread worthy

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Continuing to treat box office records like Hulk treats Loki:

After its record-demolishing $207.4 million debut last weekend, The Avengers easily stayed atop the box office in its second frame, soaring to $103.2 million (a drop of only 50 percent) over the Friday-to-Sunday period. That figure crushes the second weekend box office record, which was formerly held by Avatar with its $75.6 million sophomore frame.Incredibly, The Avengers‘ 50 percent drop is the smallest second weekend decline of any film that achieved one of the Top 10 opening weekends of all time. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 fell by 72 percent after its $169.1 million debut. The Dark Knight dipped 53 percent after its $158.4 million start. The Hunger Games and Spider-Man 3 both sank by 62 percent after their debuts of $152.5 million and $151.1 million, respectively. Those sorts of drops are just expected when dealing with gargantuan openings like these, but Avengers started much higher and fell by much less — a clear indicator of positive audience reception.

 

[Fensalk]

I went in thinking most people wanted to see this for the fights between the heroes. Sort of like pro wrestling, where people want to see Sting fight Ric Flair, or Stone Cold fight the Rock. There was plenty of that. Iron Man fought Thor. Hulk fought Thor. Thor bashed his hammer on Captain America's shield.

Everyone has already fought everyone in Team Avengers the first flick, so I guess they have to add fresh meat and bring in other superheroes like Spider-Woman, She-Hulk, etc., to set up new fights between members.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Didn't Thor lose his ability to pick up Mjolnir? What was that all about?

In the movie Thor, Thor is stripped of his godly power by Odin for failing to follow his orders and hurting the truce. Once stripped he could not lift Mjolnir as Odin cast a spell on the hammer that it could only be lifted by someone worthy.

The only other person I can remember ever being able to pick up Thor's hammer was Captain America.

 

[Fensalk]

I don't even think they need a plot to this type of film. Just have a huge battle royale.

 

[Defenze]

Have seen the movie 3 times now. Nothing was left to chance. There appears to have been a lot of discussion and working on the plot and characters. Who has this line, who has this fight, who does this job, etc. It that was the case here and I certainly believe it was, then you can bet "the heads" including Whedon signed off on Thanos being the next villain. Stating the obvious, I realize. But that should mean that they already must have a draft of the next movie somewhere. Maybe not the script, but a least a rough draft of which direction the next movie goes in and...............wait for it..............which new Marvel characters will make an appearance. I do recall an interview somewhere that asked Whedon about more characters making an appearance in the next movie. He didn't say which ones but made it clear that he would have many more in the up coming movies.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

The Avengers are the greatest collection of super heroes ever assembled..... and a guy who uses a bow and arrow

Hawkeye is awesome. Don't be a hater.

I think that if all the Avengers were essentially invulnerable, it'd be less interesting. Hawkeye offers a bit of a human component in contrast to all the superpowers.

How would you rank them based on effectivness ?

I'm not saying Hawkeye is just as effective. I'm saying his mortality is a good contrast.

No really, i wanted you to rank them. Never mind my crack about the bow and arrow. 1-Hulk2-Thor3-Ironman4-C.America5-Black Widow6- Hawkeye

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

did we ever get reason on why these characters were chosen as the avengers over say the original lineup or the current comic lineup etc...

 

[Dr. No]

did we ever get reason on why these characters were chosen as the avengers over say the original lineup or the current comic lineup etc...

based mostly on the Ultimate Avengers lineup right?not sure why they didn't use the original characters other than they needed the guys who had feature films

 

[Yenrub]

Took the wife as part of her mother’s day celebration

We both enjoyed the movie but had one question

Spoiler

With all of the technology on the “mother ship” how was Hawkeye and his crew able to pull of the sneak attack?

 

[netnalp]

Took the wife as part of her mother’s day celebration We both enjoyed the movie but had one question

Spoiler

With all of the technology on the “mother ship” how was Hawkeye and his crew able to pull of the sneak attack?

I thought they were in a S.H.I.E.L.D. vehicle.

 

[Billy Bats]

Watched Thor last night, how did Thor get back to Earth if the bridge was destroyed? I forget his initial appearance in Avengers, did he get back through the tesseract thingy?

 

[netnalp]

did we ever get reason on why these characters were chosen as the avengers over say the original lineup or the current comic lineup etc...

based mostly on the Ultimate Avengers lineup right?not sure why they didn't use the original characters other than they needed the guys who had feature films

They replaced Ant-Man and Wasp with Hawkeye and Black Widow, otherwise it's the original team, Captain America is found in Avengers #4.Might be they wanted to establish a strong connection with SHIELD. Also Ant-Man's power to get small and control insects would have had limited use and might not play well on the big screen. I think one of the reasons Pym became Giant Man was because Ant-Man was underpowered. Wasp has a little bit more use with her ranged attack but she's only really interesting due to dealing with that headcase Pym.

 

[netnalp]

Watched Thor last night, how did Thor get back to Earth if the bridge was destroyed? I forget his initial appearance in Avengers, did he get back through the tesseract thingy?

Loki asks how much dark magic/energy Odin had to use to transport Thor. What all that entails I don't know, but sounds like it takes a lot of effort.

 

[JZilla]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.

I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villain.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower

Just a question from a novice in Avenger's lore. Why Thanos? What's the thinking here? Why pick him as the next villain? Does he have some unique connection to the Avevengers? I've looked him up in The Marvel Encyclopedia and he has a small section, but no where near what I would think would be enough to make him a "main" villain. Just curious. Somebody that has followed The Avengers forever please answer.

He's one of the more powerful entities in the Marvel universe, so he's part of a small handful of villains that make sense for the Avengers.

and not sure why they would pick him. Sometimes the more God like Space beings do not translate well to the screen.

I have wondered why Iron mans villian hasnt been Mandarian yet.

A supervillian team ala - the masters of evil - Zemo, enchantress, ultron et. all would make more sense.

Rumor is the bald guy from the 1st Iron Man might be the Mandarin, as he belongs to an organization called the Ten Rings. They may have not wanted the same villain in both movies, also I read that the director of the 1st two Iron Man's was concerned with Mandarin because he's magical and was concerned about going that way. He spoke of having Mandarin be more of a technological villain. Though, the Avengers has now opened things up, magic has appeared in Iron Man's world.

Right the group was called ten rings, but the Bald leader got killed. Not that it matters for bringin in the Mandarian though. To me he is THE iron man villian

 

[netnalp]

saw it last night, really sweet. even the wife enjoyed it. and I drag her to alot of comic based stuff that is meh,

im assuming avengers 2 will have thanos as a villain.

I thought hulk vs Loki was hilliarious in stark tower

Just a question from a novice in Avenger's lore. Why Thanos? What's the thinking here? Why pick him as the next villain? Does he have some unique connection to the Avevengers? I've looked him up in The Marvel Encyclopedia and he has a small section, but no where near what I would think would be enough to make him a "main" villain. Just curious. Somebody that has followed The Avengers forever please answer.

He's one of the more powerful entities in the Marvel universe, so he's part of a small handful of villains that make sense for the Avengers.

and not sure why they would pick him. Sometimes the more God like Space beings do not translate well to the screen.

I have wondered why Iron mans villian hasnt been Mandarian yet.

A supervillian team ala - the masters of evil - Zemo, enchantress, ultron et. all would make more sense.

Rumor is the bald guy from the 1st Iron Man might be the Mandarin, as he belongs to an organization called the Ten Rings. They may have not wanted the same villain in both movies, also I read that the director of the 1st two Iron Man's was concerned with Mandarin because he's magical and was concerned about going that way. He spoke of having Mandarin be more of a technological villain. Though, the Avengers has now opened things up, magic has appeared in Iron Man's world.

Right the group was called ten rings, but the Bald leader got killed. Not that it matters for bringin in the Mandarian though. To me he is THE iron man villian

I don't think they show him getting killed. His lackey's do but it's not definitive the bald guy is killed.

 

[Mr. Soup Nazi]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

 

[JZilla]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

Spoiler

They did cut part of the scene with the old security guard, which Ruffalo described as Banner's "Jesus moment." It's more about trusting Hulk, as opposed to controlling him.Also, on the Helicarrier it's implied that Hulk and the other heroes are being influenced by Loki's staff.

 

[JZilla]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

Spoiler

They did cut part of the scene with the old security guard, which Ruffalo described as Banner's "Jesus moment." It's more about trusting Hulk, as opposed to controlling him.Also, on the Helicarrier it's implied that Hulk and the other heroes are being influenced by Loki's staff.

Fair enough. Looking forward to that scene come Chrimmus time

 

[NewlyRetired]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

Spoiler

They did cut part of the scene with the old security guard, which Ruffalo described as Banner's "Jesus moment." It's more about trusting Hulk, as opposed to controlling him.Also, on the Helicarrier it's implied that Hulk and the other heroes are being influenced by Loki's staff.

Fair enough. Looking forward to that scene come Chrimmus timeYeah I think the extra 30 minutes are likely to fill in some of the holes. The action fiends won't like the extra 30 minutes since they are likely to be majority dialogue and character building but I think they will make the movie even better and more rewatchable down the years.

 

[The Dude]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.

I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

Spoiler

They did cut part of the scene with the old security guard, which Ruffalo described as Banner's "Jesus moment." It's more about trusting Hulk, as opposed to controlling him.

Also, on the Helicarrier it's implied that Hulk and the other heroes are being influenced by Loki's staff.

Fair enough. Looking forward to that scene come Chrimmus timeYeah I think the extra 30 minutes are likely to fill in some of the holes. The action fiends won't like the extra 30 minutes since they are likely to be majority dialogue and character building but I think they will make the movie even better and more rewatchable down the years.I am not certain where people think the holes are? A good portion of the 30 minutes is regarding Cap adjusting to 2011 - having time jumped 50+ years.Regarding the Hulk, doesn't the janitor guy say something like "I saw the whole thing and you were changing back and forth." Not sure how that plays into it.

And they missed a great opportunity for the janitor to give Banner a pair of purple pants.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.

I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

Spoiler

They did cut part of the scene with the old security guard, which Ruffalo described as Banner's "Jesus moment." It's more about trusting Hulk, as opposed to controlling him.

Also, on the Helicarrier it's implied that Hulk and the other heroes are being influenced by Loki's staff.

Fair enough. Looking forward to that scene come Chrimmus timeYeah I think the extra 30 minutes are likely to fill in some of the holes. The action fiends won't like the extra 30 minutes since they are likely to be majority dialogue and character building but I think they will make the movie even better and more rewatchable down the years.I am not certain where people think the holes are? A good portion of the 30 minutes is regarding Cap adjusting to 2011 - having time jumped 50+ years.Regarding the Hulk, doesn't the janitor guy say something like "I saw the whole thing and you were changing back and forth." Not sure how that plays into it.

And they missed a great opportunity for the janitor to give Banner a pair of purple pants.

The janitor guy is the key. He tells Banner that he saw the the Hulk went out of his way to not hurt anyone when he fell. With a little more dialogue I think it will become clear to Banner that he has more control over the monster than he realizes.

 

[netnalp]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

Spoiler

They did cut part of the scene with the old security guard, which Ruffalo described as Banner's "Jesus moment." It's more about trusting Hulk, as opposed to controlling him.Also, on the Helicarrier it's implied that Hulk and the other heroes are being influenced by Loki's staff.

Spoiler

Sure seems to me that Loki wasn't aware of Hulk and that he didn't know what the Widow was talking about when she was assuming he was planning to get Banner to turn into the Hulk. I think he meant something else and she thought he was meaning the Hulk.

 

[mlball77]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.

I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

Spoiler

They did cut part of the scene with the old security guard, which Ruffalo described as Banner's "Jesus moment." It's more about trusting Hulk, as opposed to controlling him.

Also, on the Helicarrier it's implied that Hulk and the other heroes are being influenced by Loki's staff.

Fair enough. Looking forward to that scene come Chrimmus timeYeah I think the extra 30 minutes are likely to fill in some of the holes. The action fiends won't like the extra 30 minutes since they are likely to be majority dialogue and character building but I think they will make the movie even better and more rewatchable down the years.I am not certain where people think the holes are? A good portion of the 30 minutes is regarding Cap adjusting to 2011 - having time jumped 50+ years.Regarding the Hulk, doesn't the janitor guy say something like "I saw the whole thing and you were changing back and forth." Not sure how that plays into it.

And they missed a great opportunity for the janitor to give Banner a pair of purple pants.

The janitor guy is the key. He tells Banner that he saw the the Hulk went out of his way to not hurt anyone when he fell. With a little more dialogue I think it will become clear to Banner that he has more control over the monster than he realizes.

 

[Mr. Soup Nazi]

Thoughts on Hulk

Spoiler

I feel like they must have cut a scene with the old guy who brings him the clothes. Seems like there's a semi-glaring gap where Banner learns to control the beast, leading into the "I'm mad all the time" quip. Plus that old guy's no slouch, he's been in a zillion movies, including REPO MAN. Dude writes his own ticket.I loved Ruffalo as Dr Banner though, best since Bixby

Spoiler

They discussed how Banner hadn't had an incident in a long time and part of the movie was all of them trying to figure out how to control him/set him off. Stark especially was trying to get him to hulk out, poking him in the side, antagonizing him, even flat out asking him how he did stay under control, etc. Don't think they skipped over that at all.

Spoiler

He still lost at some point and almost killed a couple of his pals, not to mention an innocent fighter pilot. When did he learn to restrain then will it into being like he did when he popped into the final battle?

Spoiler

They did cut part of the scene with the old security guard, which Ruffalo described as Banner's "Jesus moment." It's more about trusting Hulk, as opposed to controlling him.Also, on the Helicarrier it's implied that Hulk and the other heroes are being influenced by Loki's staff.

Spoiler

Sure seems to me that Loki wasn't aware of Hulk and that he didn't know what the Widow was talking about when she was assuming he was planning to get Banner to turn into the Hulk. I think he meant something else and she thought he was meaning the Hulk.

Wha? She was exactly right and his look was one of shock as he realized she was on to him.

 

[NCCommish]

So I saw this Sunday. Not surprised it is still breaking records. 11 AM showing on Mothers Day and the place was at least 90% full. I was very surprised by the demographics as well. Lots of women. In groups and by themselves. And a mostly older crowd. Marvel/Disney have to be thrilled with the cross over appeal this thing has shown.

And on the better rear discussion. I have seen average Moms do better with those shorts than Gywneth, she's right out and can't even figure out what people thought they saw. Scarlett wasn't bad at all but I think the winner was Cobie Smulders in the SHIELD uniform.

 

[nysportsfan]

Saw it last night, great flick. I still like Dark Knight, but this was right up there.

 

[Buckna]

Saw it Saturday at noon, hugely entertaining, great film. Earns a rare "would pay to see it in the theater again" nod from me. They had a great plan and executed it well with the earlier films as I really enjoyed Thor & Cap America (more lukewarm on the Ironman's) and so if you've seen those and enjoyed them you are already heavily invested in the characters.

Spoiler

I was pretty :( when Agent Phil got stabbed from behind. I had really enjoyed how they had worked him into the previous films and then had him fanboying all over his hero Cap. It made perfect sense for the movie and as a catalyst to get all these guys to work together, but still, I figured these are pretty kid-friendly films so I wasn't expecting a character to get offed like that.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Saw it Saturday at noon, hugely entertaining, great film. Earns a rare "would pay to see it in the theater again" nod from me. They had a great plan and executed it well with the earlier films as I really enjoyed Thor & Cap America (more lukewarm on the Ironman's) and so if you've seen those and enjoyed them you are already heavily invested in the characters.

Spoiler

I was pretty :( when Agent Phil got stabbed from behind. I had really enjoyed how they had worked him into the previous films and then had him fanboying all over his hero Cap. It made perfect sense for the movie and as a catalyst to get all these guys to work together, but still, I figured these are pretty kid-friendly films so I wasn't expecting a character to get offed like that.

I didn't really enjoy the Iron Man movies as much either but loved him in this movie.

 

[Buck Stop]

how can you NOT love IM/Tony Stark?

 

[Dr. No]

how can you NOT love IM/Tony Stark?

if you're not into egotistical jerks then Tony Stark isn't your superhero of choice.I'm more of a spider-man guy because i prefer Peter Parker's hard knock life story and living with his identity in secret rather than advertised.

 

[Fensalk]

how can you NOT love IM/Tony Stark?

if you're not into egotistical jerks then Tony Stark isn't your superhero of choice.

But he has a heart of gold.

 

[Fensalk]

I think I spent most of this film wondering just how snug was that outfit Scarlett Johansson was wearing.

 

[Dr. No]

how can you NOT love IM/Tony Stark?

if you're not into egotistical jerks then Tony Stark isn't your superhero of choice.

But he has a heart of gold.

whatevs.. i don't like the guy either.although i do like Batman.. so maybe i'm inconsistent.