The Avengers (1 Viewer)

[kutta]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.

When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.

Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics.

So that pretty much sucked.

 

[17seconds]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

I would never speak to her again. Seriously.

 

[Disco Stu]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

I would never speak to her again. Seriously.

Me neither. But to be fair, we've never met.

 

[kutta]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

I would never speak to her again. Seriously.

Me neither. But to be fair, we've never met.

We're still not on the best terms but I've tried to move on. Here's the kicker. About 10 years ago she gives me three random Spiderman comics for my birthday, and she says she feels really bad about throwing them away and this was her attempt to make up for it. I was cool with her, but I want to burst out laughing and crying every time I think about it.

 

[Andrew74]

Black Widow's hair must be made of steel

What hair?Edit: crap, should have read rest of thread. :Honda:

 

[BigJohn]

Black Widow's hair must be made of steel

i keep watching that over amd over and still cant see past the boobs bouncing

 

[mad sweeney]

First off, I too was only watching her chest, glorious in the theater, though seemingly a little smaller... Maybe it's the suit. As for who's hotter between her and Cobie? Going to need more research! I've never seen How I Met... but saw her in Slammin Salmon and think she's a top 10 all time.

Anyway, as for the movie, an outstanding comic book movie. I'd place it above Xmen and Iron Man because of the character development. To me, that's what makes a summer blockbuster CGI fest worth watching again. The first Spidey had it, Iron Man had it, X-Men, not so much. But every single character in Avengers had great development, none were the same by the end and it wasn't some kind of slow clap kind of sudden revelation. Granted, I'm not talking about Oscar nominated scripts or performances, keep in mind the genre. But that's what nobody has been able to do since Iron Man, which is to showcase character. Most of the good points revolving around this have been covered: Stark deferring to Cap, Banner/Hulk "befriending" the group because of Stark's faith in him, Widow owning up to her past and using it to her advantage (great scene btw), Stark once again confronting his weapon dealing past, Hawkeye having to live with his actions, Thor still offering Loki solace etc...

Speaking of Loki, I don't see why people are down on him. I thought he was perfect. Didn't overact the role, seriously behaved as if those around him were ants. Showed greed, arrogance, doubt and a host of other human emotions when it was called for, especially when Widow got the drop on him, his utter arrogance got the better of him. I'd actually put him very high on the list of good comic movie villains (didn't see Thor yet).

Hulk did steal most of the scenes he was in. I think Widow's emotions after the chase were actually subtlely and sublimely better. Raffalo nails Banner, as most have said. The comedy bits with Thor and Loki were so perfect. In fact, all of the comic moments were perfectly placed. Yes, it's an action show, but superheroes are always glib and the one liners beat anything Schwarzenegger has ever uttered.

I've worked in the film biz for almost 15 years now. It's really hard for me to watch a movie without starting to wonder about how they did this or how they did that. It's hard for me to not pick apart plot holes, bad performances, cliches etc... The mark of a very good movie to me, whether it's a critically great Film or an uber-ly enjoyable Movie, is when I stop thinking about the how and just enjoy it. That's what Avengers did for me. It's worth the $13 to lose myself in a great Movie for a couple of hours.

Really, my only complaints are:

Spoiler

Coulson's death acting, not a tremor or weakness in his voice after taking a spear through the lungs and heart etc... A minor gripe, but he could've at least whispered. The other thing has been mentioned before and that's the slaved/drone attackers. Seriously, the Earth is screwed if any invaders ever don't all die when the mother ship gets blown up. A stupid, overused convention. Though still, I can see how it kind of works here because of the first extra scene where The Other says that humans are unruly and can't be ruled. The individuality of humanity is often used in hero stories as the solution to conquest from without. But as a movie convention, it's weak.

Finally, the way end of credits scenes was absolutely brilliant, but how are they going to pay for it? None of them have pockets, except maybe Banner but the always incredible Harry Dean Stanton probably didn't loan him enough to buy all that shwarma. In fact, who's going to pay for all the damage of the invasion? Seems like NY would go dead broke having to fix the 20 square blocks of damage. Not even Stark Industries has that much dough. I also found it interesting in Lefty Hollywood that it was a Democratic Congressman in the montage calling for the heroes to be financially responsible for the damage. It's obviously an ungrateful position to take and I'd think that liberal Hollywood would make a Republican be that guy.

Bottom line, fantastic 2.5 hours of escapism, I'll see it again.

 

[netnalp]

First off, I too was only watching her chest, glorious in the theater, though seemingly a little smaller... Maybe it's the suit. As for who's hotter between her and Cobie? Going to need more research! I've never seen How I Met... but saw her in Slammin Salmon and think she's a top 10 all time. Anyway, as for the movie, an outstanding comic book movie. I'd place it above Xmen and Iron Man because of the character development. To me, that's what makes a summer blockbuster CGI fest worth watching again. The first Spidey had it, Iron Man had it, X-Men, not so much. But every single character in Avengers had great development, none were the same by the end and it wasn't some kind of slow clap kind of sudden revelation. Granted, I'm not talking about Oscar nominated scripts or performances, keep in mind the genre. But that's what nobody has been able to do since Iron Man, which is to showcase character. Most of the good points revolving around this have been covered: Stark deferring to Cap, Banner/Hulk "befriending" the group because of Stark's faith in him, Widow owning up to her past and using it to her advantage (great scene btw), Stark once again confronting his weapon dealing past, Hawkeye having to live with his actions, Thor still offering Loki solace etc...Speaking of Loki, I don't see why people are down on him. I thought he was perfect. Didn't overact the role, seriously behaved as if those around him were ants. Showed greed, arrogance, doubt and a host of other human emotions when it was called for, especially when Widow got the drop on him, his utter arrogance got the better of him. I'd actually put him very high on the list of good comic movie villains (didn't see Thor yet). Hulk did steal most of the scenes he was in. I think Widow's emotions after the chase were actually subtlely and sublimely better. Raffalo nails Banner, as most have said. The comedy bits with Thor and Loki were so perfect. In fact, all of the comic moments were perfectly placed. Yes, it's an action show, but superheroes are always glib and the one liners beat anything Schwarzenegger has ever uttered.I've worked in the film biz for almost 15 years now. It's really hard for me to watch a movie without starting to wonder about how they did this or how they did that. It's hard for me to not pick apart plot holes, bad performances, cliches etc... The mark of a very good movie to me, whether it's a critically great Film or an uber-ly enjoyable Movie, is when I stop thinking about the how and just enjoy it. That's what Avengers did for me. It's worth the $13 to lose myself in a great Movie for a couple of hours. Really, my only complaints are:

Spoiler

Coulson's death acting, not a tremor or weakness in his voice after taking a spear through the lungs and heart etc... A minor gripe, but he could've at least whispered. The other thing has been mentioned before and that's the slaved/drone attackers. Seriously, the Earth is screwed if any invaders ever don't all die when the mother ship gets blown up. A stupid, overused convention. Though still, I can see how it kind of works here because of the first extra scene where The Other says that humans are unruly and can't be ruled. The individuality of humanity is often used in hero stories as the solution to conquest from without. But as a movie convention, it's weak.

Finally, the way end of credits scenes was absolutely brilliant, but how are they going to pay for it? None of them have pockets, except maybe Banner but the always incredible Harry Dean Stanton probably didn't loan him enough to buy all that shwarma. In fact, who's going to pay for all the damage of the invasion? Seems like NY would go dead broke having to fix the 20 square blocks of damage. Not even Stark Industries has that much dough. I also found it interesting in Lefty Hollywood that it was a Democratic Congressman in the montage calling for the heroes to be financially responsible for the damage. It's obviously an ungrateful position to take and I'd think that liberal Hollywood would make a Republican be that guy.Bottom line, fantastic 2.5 hours of escapism, I'll see it again.

Might be the foods free. Don't cops eat free at some places?That might be one of the reasons Hulk didn't last with the Avengers, he can't seem to do much without destroying the architecture.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I did not care for this film.

 

[mad sweeney]

First off, I too was only watching her chest, glorious in the theater, though seemingly a little smaller... Maybe it's the suit. As for who's hotter between her and Cobie? Going to need more research! I've never seen How I Met... but saw her in Slammin Salmon and think she's a top 10 all time. Anyway, as for the movie, an outstanding comic book movie. I'd place it above Xmen and Iron Man because of the character development. To me, that's what makes a summer blockbuster CGI fest worth watching again. The first Spidey had it, Iron Man had it, X-Men, not so much. But every single character in Avengers had great development, none were the same by the end and it wasn't some kind of slow clap kind of sudden revelation. Granted, I'm not talking about Oscar nominated scripts or performances, keep in mind the genre. But that's what nobody has been able to do since Iron Man, which is to showcase character. Most of the good points revolving around this have been covered: Stark deferring to Cap, Banner/Hulk "befriending" the group because of Stark's faith in him, Widow owning up to her past and using it to her advantage (great scene btw), Stark once again confronting his weapon dealing past, Hawkeye having to live with his actions, Thor still offering Loki solace etc...Speaking of Loki, I don't see why people are down on him. I thought he was perfect. Didn't overact the role, seriously behaved as if those around him were ants. Showed greed, arrogance, doubt and a host of other human emotions when it was called for, especially when Widow got the drop on him, his utter arrogance got the better of him. I'd actually put him very high on the list of good comic movie villains (didn't see Thor yet). Hulk did steal most of the scenes he was in. I think Widow's emotions after the chase were actually subtlely and sublimely better. Raffalo nails Banner, as most have said. The comedy bits with Thor and Loki were so perfect. In fact, all of the comic moments were perfectly placed. Yes, it's an action show, but superheroes are always glib and the one liners beat anything Schwarzenegger has ever uttered.I've worked in the film biz for almost 15 years now. It's really hard for me to watch a movie without starting to wonder about how they did this or how they did that. It's hard for me to not pick apart plot holes, bad performances, cliches etc... The mark of a very good movie to me, whether it's a critically great Film or an uber-ly enjoyable Movie, is when I stop thinking about the how and just enjoy it. That's what Avengers did for me. It's worth the $13 to lose myself in a great Movie for a couple of hours. Really, my only complaints are:

Spoiler

Coulson's death acting, not a tremor or weakness in his voice after taking a spear through the lungs and heart etc... A minor gripe, but he could've at least whispered. The other thing has been mentioned before and that's the slaved/drone attackers. Seriously, the Earth is screwed if any invaders ever don't all die when the mother ship gets blown up. A stupid, overused convention. Though still, I can see how it kind of works here because of the first extra scene where The Other says that humans are unruly and can't be ruled. The individuality of humanity is often used in hero stories as the solution to conquest from without. But as a movie convention, it's weak.

Spoiler

Finally, the way end of credits scenes was absolutely brilliant, but how are they going to pay for it? None of them have pockets, except maybe Banner but the always incredible Harry Dean Stanton probably didn't loan him enough to buy all that shwarma. In fact, who's going to pay for all the damage of the invasion? Seems like NY would go dead broke having to fix the 20 square blocks of damage. Not even Stark Industries has that much dough. I also found it interesting in Lefty Hollywood that it was a Democratic Congressman in the montage calling for the heroes to be financially responsible for the damage. It's obviously an ungrateful position to take and I'd think that liberal Hollywood would make a Republican be that guy.Bottom line, fantastic 2.5 hours of escapism, I'll see it again.

Might be the foods free. Don't cops eat free at some places?That might be one of the reasons Hulk didn't last with the Avengers, he can't seem to do much without destroying the architecture.That's the issue with anything to do with the Hulk being an aberration. Hell, the techs were already replacing the computers on the SHIELD HQ at the end of the movie when Hill hadn't even gotten her wounds cleaned yet. Hulk ruined several levels just fighting Widow, who just ran (and, imo, showed character development in those moments).

 

[mad sweeney]

I did not care for this film.

Why not?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I did not care for this film.

Why not?

Primarily, I found the main villain to be droll and a bit ridiculous. I'm OK with a crazy space semi-God from a different planet, just not a whiny one who looks like a cross between Gabe from the Office and Nine Inch Nails.Other than that, I thought quite a bit of the exposition and moralizing was tedious. It got better once the final battle kicked in.Not really sure what the end-game was there, anyway. Were the dudes on the sleds and the giant flying bugs going to colonize Earth?

 

[NCCommish]

First off, I too was only watching her chest, glorious in the theater, though seemingly a little smaller... Maybe it's the suit. As for who's hotter between her and Cobie? Going to need more research! I've never seen How I Met... but saw her in Slammin Salmon and think she's a top 10 all time. Anyway, as for the movie, an outstanding comic book movie. I'd place it above Xmen and Iron Man because of the character development. To me, that's what makes a summer blockbuster CGI fest worth watching again. The first Spidey had it, Iron Man had it, X-Men, not so much. But every single character in Avengers had great development, none were the same by the end and it wasn't some kind of slow clap kind of sudden revelation. Granted, I'm not talking about Oscar nominated scripts or performances, keep in mind the genre. But that's what nobody has been able to do since Iron Man, which is to showcase character. Most of the good points revolving around this have been covered: Stark deferring to Cap, Banner/Hulk "befriending" the group because of Stark's faith in him, Widow owning up to her past and using it to her advantage (great scene btw), Stark once again confronting his weapon dealing past, Hawkeye having to live with his actions, Thor still offering Loki solace etc...Speaking of Loki, I don't see why people are down on him. I thought he was perfect. Didn't overact the role, seriously behaved as if those around him were ants. Showed greed, arrogance, doubt and a host of other human emotions when it was called for, especially when Widow got the drop on him, his utter arrogance got the better of him. I'd actually put him very high on the list of good comic movie villains (didn't see Thor yet). Hulk did steal most of the scenes he was in. I think Widow's emotions after the chase were actually subtlely and sublimely better. Raffalo nails Banner, as most have said. The comedy bits with Thor and Loki were so perfect. In fact, all of the comic moments were perfectly placed. Yes, it's an action show, but superheroes are always glib and the one liners beat anything Schwarzenegger has ever uttered.I've worked in the film biz for almost 15 years now. It's really hard for me to watch a movie without starting to wonder about how they did this or how they did that. It's hard for me to not pick apart plot holes, bad performances, cliches etc... The mark of a very good movie to me, whether it's a critically great Film or an uber-ly enjoyable Movie, is when I stop thinking about the how and just enjoy it. That's what Avengers did for me. It's worth the $13 to lose myself in a great Movie for a couple of hours. Really, my only complaints are:

Spoiler

Coulson's death acting, not a tremor or weakness in his voice after taking a spear through the lungs and heart etc... A minor gripe, but he could've at least whispered. The other thing has been mentioned before and that's the slaved/drone attackers. Seriously, the Earth is screwed if any invaders ever don't all die when the mother ship gets blown up. A stupid, overused convention. Though still, I can see how it kind of works here because of the first extra scene where The Other says that humans are unruly and can't be ruled. The individuality of humanity is often used in hero stories as the solution to conquest from without. But as a movie convention, it's weak.

Spoiler

Finally, the way end of credits scenes was absolutely brilliant, but how are they going to pay for it? None of them have pockets, except maybe Banner but the always incredible Harry Dean Stanton probably didn't loan him enough to buy all that shwarma. In fact, who's going to pay for all the damage of the invasion? Seems like NY would go dead broke having to fix the 20 square blocks of damage. Not even Stark Industries has that much dough. I also found it interesting in Lefty Hollywood that it was a Democratic Congressman in the montage calling for the heroes to be financially responsible for the damage. It's obviously an ungrateful position to take and I'd think that liberal Hollywood would make a Republican be that guy.Bottom line, fantastic 2.5 hours of escapism, I'll see it again.

Might be the foods free. Don't cops eat free at some places?That might be one of the reasons Hulk didn't last with the Avengers, he can't seem to do much without destroying the architecture.Originally he lost control of Hulk when that happened he left the Avengers. It seems they have given him a significant level of control if he can change at will.

 

[curta269]

First off, I too was only watching her chest, glorious in the theater, though seemingly a little smaller... Maybe it's the suit. As for who's hotter between her and Cobie? Going to need more research! I've never seen How I Met... but saw her in Slammin Salmon and think she's a top 10 all time. Anyway, as for the movie, an outstanding comic book movie. I'd place it above Xmen and Iron Man because of the character development. To me, that's what makes a summer blockbuster CGI fest worth watching again. The first Spidey had it, Iron Man had it, X-Men, not so much. But every single character in Avengers had great development, none were the same by the end and it wasn't some kind of slow clap kind of sudden revelation. Granted, I'm not talking about Oscar nominated scripts or performances, keep in mind the genre. But that's what nobody has been able to do since Iron Man, which is to showcase character. Most of the good points revolving around this have been covered: Stark deferring to Cap, Banner/Hulk "befriending" the group because of Stark's faith in him, Widow owning up to her past and using it to her advantage (great scene btw), Stark once again confronting his weapon dealing past, Hawkeye having to live with his actions, Thor still offering Loki solace etc...Speaking of Loki, I don't see why people are down on him. I thought he was perfect. Didn't overact the role, seriously behaved as if those around him were ants. Showed greed, arrogance, doubt and a host of other human emotions when it was called for, especially when Widow got the drop on him, his utter arrogance got the better of him. I'd actually put him very high on the list of good comic movie villains (didn't see Thor yet). Hulk did steal most of the scenes he was in. I think Widow's emotions after the chase were actually subtlely and sublimely better. Raffalo nails Banner, as most have said. The comedy bits with Thor and Loki were so perfect. In fact, all of the comic moments were perfectly placed. Yes, it's an action show, but superheroes are always glib and the one liners beat anything Schwarzenegger has ever uttered.I've worked in the film biz for almost 15 years now. It's really hard for me to watch a movie without starting to wonder about how they did this or how they did that. It's hard for me to not pick apart plot holes, bad performances, cliches etc... The mark of a very good movie to me, whether it's a critically great Film or an uber-ly enjoyable Movie, is when I stop thinking about the how and just enjoy it. That's what Avengers did for me. It's worth the $13 to lose myself in a great Movie for a couple of hours. Really, my only complaints are:

Spoiler

Coulson's death acting, not a tremor or weakness in his voice after taking a spear through the lungs and heart etc... A minor gripe, but he could've at least whispered. The other thing has been mentioned before and that's the slaved/drone attackers. Seriously, the Earth is screwed if any invaders ever don't all die when the mother ship gets blown up. A stupid, overused convention. Though still, I can see how it kind of works here because of the first extra scene where The Other says that humans are unruly and can't be ruled. The individuality of humanity is often used in hero stories as the solution to conquest from without. But as a movie convention, it's weak.

Finally, the way end of credits scenes was absolutely brilliant, but how are they going to pay for it? None of them have pockets, except maybe Banner but the always incredible Harry Dean Stanton probably didn't loan him enough to buy all that shwarma. In fact, who's going to pay for all the damage of the invasion? Seems like NY would go dead broke having to fix the 20 square blocks of damage. Not even Stark Industries has that much dough. I also found it interesting in Lefty Hollywood that it was a Democratic Congressman in the montage calling for the heroes to be financially responsible for the damage. It's obviously an ungrateful position to take and I'd think that liberal Hollywood would make a Republican be that guy.Bottom line, fantastic 2.5 hours of escapism, I'll see it again.

 

[curta269]

First off, I too was only watching her chest, glorious in the theater, though seemingly a little smaller... Maybe it's the suit. As for who's hotter between her and Cobie? Going to need more research! I've never seen How I Met... but saw her in Slammin Salmon and think she's a top 10 all time. Anyway, as for the movie, an outstanding comic book movie. I'd place it above Xmen and Iron Man because of the character development. To me, that's what makes a summer blockbuster CGI fest worth watching again. The first Spidey had it, Iron Man had it, X-Men, not so much. But every single character in Avengers had great development, none were the same by the end and it wasn't some kind of slow clap kind of sudden revelation. Granted, I'm not talking about Oscar nominated scripts or performances, keep in mind the genre. But that's what nobody has been able to do since Iron Man, which is to showcase character. Most of the good points revolving around this have been covered: Stark deferring to Cap, Banner/Hulk "befriending" the group because of Stark's faith in him, Widow owning up to her past and using it to her advantage (great scene btw), Stark once again confronting his weapon dealing past, Hawkeye having to live with his actions, Thor still offering Loki solace etc...Speaking of Loki, I don't see why people are down on him. I thought he was perfect. Didn't overact the role, seriously behaved as if those around him were ants. Showed greed, arrogance, doubt and a host of other human emotions when it was called for, especially when Widow got the drop on him, his utter arrogance got the better of him. I'd actually put him very high on the list of good comic movie villains (didn't see Thor yet). Hulk did steal most of the scenes he was in. I think Widow's emotions after the chase were actually subtlely and sublimely better. Raffalo nails Banner, as most have said. The comedy bits with Thor and Loki were so perfect. In fact, all of the comic moments were perfectly placed. Yes, it's an action show, but superheroes are always glib and the one liners beat anything Schwarzenegger has ever uttered.I've worked in the film biz for almost 15 years now. It's really hard for me to watch a movie without starting to wonder about how they did this or how they did that. It's hard for me to not pick apart plot holes, bad performances, cliches etc... The mark of a very good movie to me, whether it's a critically great Film or an uber-ly enjoyable Movie, is when I stop thinking about the how and just enjoy it. That's what Avengers did for me. It's worth the $13 to lose myself in a great Movie for a couple of hours. Really, my only complaints are:

Spoiler

Coulson's death acting, not a tremor or weakness in his voice after taking a spear through the lungs and heart etc... A minor gripe, but he could've at least whispered. The other thing has been mentioned before and that's the slaved/drone attackers. Seriously, the Earth is screwed if any invaders ever don't all die when the mother ship gets blown up. A stupid, overused convention. Though still, I can see how it kind of works here because of the first extra scene where The Other says that humans are unruly and can't be ruled. The individuality of humanity is often used in hero stories as the solution to conquest from without. But as a movie convention, it's weak.

Finally, the way end of credits scenes was absolutely brilliant, but how are they going to pay for it? None of them have pockets, except maybe Banner but the always incredible Harry Dean Stanton probably didn't loan him enough to buy all that shwarma. In fact, who's going to pay for all the damage of the invasion? Seems like NY would go dead broke having to fix the 20 square blocks of damage. Not even Stark Industries has that much dough. I also found it interesting in Lefty Hollywood that it was a Democratic Congressman in the montage calling for the heroes to be financially responsible for the damage. It's obviously an ungrateful position to take and I'd think that liberal Hollywood would make a Republican be that guy.Bottom line, fantastic 2.5 hours of escapism, I'll see it again.

Spoiler

Rumor has it that Agent Coulson will be in Iron Man 3. I'm thinking he didn't die in the film. Fury just used his "death" to motivate the heroes to team up.

 

[5Rings]

I think this movie will set the bar for all Comic Book movies going forward.

sure did for me. Fantastic movie.

 

[Tom Servo]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

Oh, man. I'm going to cry along with you. MOTHERS!!!!!

 

[BigJohn]

First off, I too was only watching her chest, glorious in the theater, though seemingly a little smaller... Maybe it's the suit. As for who's hotter between her and Cobie? Going to need more research! I've never seen How I Met... but saw her in Slammin Salmon and think she's a top 10 all time. Anyway, as for the movie, an outstanding comic book movie. I'd place it above Xmen and Iron Man because of the character development. To me, that's what makes a summer blockbuster CGI fest worth watching again. The first Spidey had it, Iron Man had it, X-Men, not so much. But every single character in Avengers had great development, none were the same by the end and it wasn't some kind of slow clap kind of sudden revelation. Granted, I'm not talking about Oscar nominated scripts or performances, keep in mind the genre. But that's what nobody has been able to do since Iron Man, which is to showcase character. Most of the good points revolving around this have been covered: Stark deferring to Cap, Banner/Hulk "befriending" the group because of Stark's faith in him, Widow owning up to her past and using it to her advantage (great scene btw), Stark once again confronting his weapon dealing past, Hawkeye having to live with his actions, Thor still offering Loki solace etc...Speaking of Loki, I don't see why people are down on him. I thought he was perfect. Didn't overact the role, seriously behaved as if those around him were ants. Showed greed, arrogance, doubt and a host of other human emotions when it was called for, especially when Widow got the drop on him, his utter arrogance got the better of him. I'd actually put him very high on the list of good comic movie villains (didn't see Thor yet). Hulk did steal most of the scenes he was in. I think Widow's emotions after the chase were actually subtlely and sublimely better. Raffalo nails Banner, as most have said. The comedy bits with Thor and Loki were so perfect. In fact, all of the comic moments were perfectly placed. Yes, it's an action show, but superheroes are always glib and the one liners beat anything Schwarzenegger has ever uttered.I've worked in the film biz for almost 15 years now. It's really hard for me to watch a movie without starting to wonder about how they did this or how they did that. It's hard for me to not pick apart plot holes, bad performances, cliches etc... The mark of a very good movie to me, whether it's a critically great Film or an uber-ly enjoyable Movie, is when I stop thinking about the how and just enjoy it. That's what Avengers did for me. It's worth the $13 to lose myself in a great Movie for a couple of hours. Really, my only complaints are:

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Coulson's death acting, not a tremor or weakness in his voice after taking a spear through the lungs and heart etc... A minor gripe, but he could've at least whispered. The other thing has been mentioned before and that's the slaved/drone attackers. Seriously, the Earth is screwed if any invaders ever don't all die when the mother ship gets blown up. A stupid, overused convention. Though still, I can see how it kind of works here because of the first extra scene where The Other says that humans are unruly and can't be ruled. The individuality of humanity is often used in hero stories as the solution to conquest from without. But as a movie convention, it's weak.

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Finally, the way end of credits scenes was absolutely brilliant, but how are they going to pay for it? None of them have pockets, except maybe Banner but the always incredible Harry Dean Stanton probably didn't loan him enough to buy all that shwarma. In fact, who's going to pay for all the damage of the invasion? Seems like NY would go dead broke having to fix the 20 square blocks of damage. Not even Stark Industries has that much dough. I also found it interesting in Lefty Hollywood that it was a Democratic Congressman in the montage calling for the heroes to be financially responsible for the damage. It's obviously an ungrateful position to take and I'd think that liberal Hollywood would make a Republican be that guy.Bottom line, fantastic 2.5 hours of escapism, I'll see it again.

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Rumor has it that Agent Coulson will be in Iron Man 3. I'm thinking he didn't die in the film. Fury just used his "death" to motivate the heroes to team up.

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stupid

 

[The Duff Man]

Watched it for the second time. The in-movie Acura commercial was

Huh. During the movie? Didn't see that.

Both times I saw the movie, there was a commercial beforehand showing Acura as the official car of the Avengers.During the fight scene in New York, Cap, Hawkeye and Widow run around an Acura. The camera stays on the car, clearly showing the logo for about three seconds after the heroes have left the scene. It stood out for me, but maybe because of the commercial beforehand. I am certain it was intentional as the rest of the movie editing and timing is terrific.

 

[NCCommish]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

Oh, man. I'm going to cry along with you. MOTHERS!!!!!

My mom did essentially the same thing. I had a number 1 and had been collecting for several years. I went to the grandparents one summer and when I got home she had "cleaned up" my closet. This apparently meant throwing away stuff she didn't value as clothes I hadn't worn in years made the cut but my comics didn't.

 

[Thunderlips]

Saw it the other night. Damn near perfect comic and action movie. Only gripes would be really nitpicking.......but here we go.

1) While I understand that those characters work in the comics......it might have been a little better to at least amp them up with some SHIELD technology for the last battle. Come on.....two pistols and karate skills versus aliens? They could have just as easily combined Widow with the "How I Met Your Mother" SHIELD agent.....given her a bit of tech and that would have tightened the story up a little bit.

2) The distrust of SHIELD was a bit extraneous. The whole reveal and roundtable gripe about that (when the heroes were arguing with each other was a bit hamfisted.

3) There was no real need for Hawkeye to be taken over by Loki. I know they do that to give the actors a bit of face time and expand on the characters a bit....but who's really caring about them?

Other than that.....great movie.

 

[NCCommish]

Saw it the other night. Damn near perfect comic and action movie. Only gripes would be really nitpicking.......but here we go.1) While I understand that those characters work in the comics......it might have been a little better to at least amp them up with some SHIELD technology for the last battle. Come on.....two pistols and karate skills versus aliens? They could have just as easily combined Widow with the "How I Met Your Mother" SHIELD agent.....given her a bit of tech and that would have tightened the story up a little bit.2) The distrust of SHIELD was a bit extraneous. The whole reveal and roundtable gripe about that (when the heroes were arguing with each other was a bit hamfisted.3) There was no real need for Hawkeye to be taken over by Loki. I know they do that to give the actors a bit of face time and expand on the characters a bit....but who's really caring about them?Other than that.....great movie.

FWIW distrust of SHIELD is canon. You got to watch those men in black. And Cobie's character figures strongly in SHIELD stories. She becomes almost as important as Fury to the canon. So you really couldn't combine her with Widow.

 

[Thunderlips]

Saw it the other night. Damn near perfect comic and action movie. Only gripes would be really nitpicking.......but here we go.1) While I understand that those characters work in the comics......it might have been a little better to at least amp them up with some SHIELD technology for the last battle. Come on.....two pistols and karate skills versus aliens? They could have just as easily combined Widow with the "How I Met Your Mother" SHIELD agent.....given her a bit of tech and that would have tightened the story up a little bit.2) The distrust of SHIELD was a bit extraneous. The whole reveal and roundtable gripe about that (when the heroes were arguing with each other was a bit hamfisted.3) There was no real need for Hawkeye to be taken over by Loki. I know they do that to give the actors a bit of face time and expand on the characters a bit....but who's really caring about them?Other than that.....great movie.

FWIW distrust of SHIELD is canon. You got to watch those men in black. And Cobie's character figures strongly in SHIELD stories. She becomes almost as important as Fury to the canon. So you really couldn't combine her with Widow.

Well carry on then!......I stand corrected.

 

[kutta]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

Oh, man. I'm going to cry along with you. MOTHERS!!!!!

My mom did essentially the same thing. I had a number 1 and had been collecting for several years. I went to the grandparents one summer and when I got home she had "cleaned up" my closet. This apparently meant throwing away stuff she didn't value as clothes I hadn't worn in years made the cut but my comics didn't.

Wow. Glad I have a brother out there somewhere in the lost comic book universe.I guess that's why these things are worth so much money. Moms throw them out.

 

[NCCommish]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

Oh, man. I'm going to cry along with you. MOTHERS!!!!!

My mom did essentially the same thing. I had a number 1 and had been collecting for several years. I went to the grandparents one summer and when I got home she had "cleaned up" my closet. This apparently meant throwing away stuff she didn't value as clothes I hadn't worn in years made the cut but my comics didn't.

Wow. Glad I have a brother out there somewhere in the lost comic book universe.I guess that's why these things are worth so much money. Moms throw them out.

Mom's are the number one predator of comic books.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Was almost certain that Black Widow was going to charm + seduce one of those gigantic flying worm thingies.

 

[mad sweeney]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

Oh, man. I'm going to cry along with you. MOTHERS!!!!!

My mom did essentially the same thing. I had a number 1 and had been collecting for several years. I went to the grandparents one summer and when I got home she had "cleaned up" my closet. This apparently meant throwing away stuff she didn't value as clothes I hadn't worn in years made the cut but my comics didn't.

Wow. Glad I have a brother out there somewhere in the lost comic book universe.I guess that's why these things are worth so much money. Moms throw them out.

Mom's are the number one predator of comic books.

And Star Wars action figures in the Darth Vader carrying case!

 

[Dr. No]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

Tell me more about Spectacular Spiderman, was it as good? i have never read an issue

 

[5Rings]

My 5 year old daughter has shown some interest. Yes or No

Two potential issues - Hulk may scare younger kids, and it's nearly a 2 1/2 hour run time.

Fwiw....my 8 and 5 year old were fine and loved it. Got long for the 2 1/2 yr old but he only needed one break. Little guy loved hulk.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Pretty funny, the avengers on face book

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/bd38f41446/the-avengers-assemble-on-facebook

 

[Tom Servo]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

Oh, man. I'm going to cry along with you. MOTHERS!!!!!

My mom did essentially the same thing. I had a number 1 and had been collecting for several years. I went to the grandparents one summer and when I got home she had "cleaned up" my closet. This apparently meant throwing away stuff she didn't value as clothes I hadn't worn in years made the cut but my comics didn't.

Wow. Glad I have a brother out there somewhere in the lost comic book universe.I guess that's why these things are worth so much money. Moms throw them out.

Mom's are the number one predator of comic books.

...and baseball cards.

 

[Tom Servo]

Pretty funny, the avengers on face book

http://www.funnyordi...ble-on-facebook

 

[Tom Servo]

BTW, any idea when Avengers comes out on Blu-Ray? Maybe late November?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Not reading through 18 pages and I'm sorry because these scenes had to be mentioned at least 20 times already but...

Hulk punching Thor and Hulk smashing Loki were the best laughs I think I may have ever had from a non comedy movie.

 

[17seconds]

I did not care for this film.

Why not?

Primarily, I found the main villain to be droll and a bit ridiculous. I'm OK with a crazy space semi-God from a different planet, just not a whiny one who looks like a cross between Gabe from the Office and Nine Inch Nails.

Yeah, the more I think about it the villain was weak. You never get the feeling the guy is ever going to accomplish anything.

 

[pantherclub]

Maybe I missed it or maybe its explained in the comics but how do they make Hulk a "good" guy and focus him on Loki's crew? I thought in the comics he was a loose cannon and just fought everyone.

 

[the moops]

Watched this the other night. Probably one of my least favorite comic book movies. Give it a big MEH.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Maybe I missed it or maybe its explained in the comics but how do they make Hulk a "good" guy and focus him on Loki's crew? I thought in the comics he was a loose cannon and just fought everyone.

yeah they kind of glossed over that one in the movie with having him say "Im always angry" as to how he controls it.In the comics, the hulk always had issues controlling the beast and went from varying degrees of raging monster to under control hero.

 

[Socrates11]

Here's a Spiderman sob story for all you comic geeks.When I was younger (12-16) which was 1978-1982, I was the biggest Spiderman fan around. I had every Spectacular Spiderman at the time (I don't remember how high they went yet, but I think they were somewhere in the 90's at the time). I also had every Amazing Spiderman, including issue #1 in good condition - I paid $120 for it at the time, except for three or four issues. I had a newspaper route and a job washing dishes, and pretty much every penny I made went right into Spiderman. There were a couple comic book stores near my house, and the guys would always track down issues and call me when they had what I was looking for. My best friend collected The Avengers and the X-Men, and it really is how we spent most of 7th and 8th grade.Anyway, I had a huge fight with my mom starting my senior year of high school and moved out. We didn't speak for five years. And when we did finally speak again, she informed me that she had thrown out all of my possessions from my childhood, including all my comics. So that pretty much sucked.

Wow, isn't an Amazing #1 worth in the neighborhood of $10,000 now? I'd divorce my mom and have her removed from my birth certificate.

 

[Chaka]

Saw it yesterday prepare for Hippling...

 

[Chaka]

I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.

Probably.But Sentry and Franklin Richards may be even tougher than all 3 you mention

It happened in World War Hulk. Hulk took out
to a draw.

 

[Chaka]

The Avengers are the greatest collection of super heroes ever assembled..... and a guy who uses a bow and arrow

Hawkeye is awesome. Don't be a hater.

That is not entirely unfair, Widow is a weak link too (although her keister is a scene stealer) but I have to say that Whedon's take on Hawkeye's quiver was brilliant.I always wondered how Hawk always managed to pull out the right arrow for the job every time.

 

[Chaka]

did we ever get reason on why these characters were chosen as the avengers over say the original lineup or the current comic lineup etc...

based mostly on the Ultimate Avengers lineup right?not sure why they didn't use the original characters other than they needed the guys who had feature films

I think it was wise to exclude Hank Pym and Wasp. Pym would be a highly redundant third uber-intellect and Wasp is little more than a socialite so she really doesn't bring any dynamic outside of her super powers that the others do. Hawkeye and Black Widow are long time members (off-and-on) in the Avengers so the fan base is familiar with them and they bring a covert special ops angle that none of the others offer, which is also a natural tie in with SHIELD.

 

[Chaka]

For lack of a better term Joss Whedon just gets it. Here is a letter he just wrote on his web site==========Well, it's been quite a weekend. Someday, long from now, I will even have an emotional reaction to it, like a person would. I can't wait! But before I become blinded by this "emotion" experience, there's a few things I'd like to say. Well, type.People have told me that this matters, that my life is about to change. I am sure that is true. And change is good — change is exciting. I think — not to jinx it — that I may finally be recognized at Comiccon. Imagine! Also, with my percentage of "the Avengers" gross, I can afford to buy ... [gets call from agent. Weeps manfully. Resumes typing.] ... a fine meal. But REALLY fine, with truffles and s#!+. And I can get a studio to finance my dream project, the reboot of "Air Bud" that we all feel is so long overdue. (He could play Jai Alai! Think of the emotional ramifications of JAI ALAI!!!!)What doesn't change is anything that matters. What doesn't change is that I've had the smartest, most loyal, most passionate, most articulate group of — I'm not even gonna say fans. I'm going with "peeps" — that any cult oddity such as my bad self could have dreamt of. When almost no one was watching, when people probably should have STOPPED watching, I've had three constants: my family and friends, my collaborators (often the same), and y'all. A lot of stories have come out about my "dark years," and how I'm "unrecognized" ... I love these stories, because they make me seem super-important, but I have never felt the darkness (and I'm ALL about my darkness) that they described. Because I have so much. I have people, in my life, on this site, in places I've yet to discover, that always made me feel the truth of success: an artist and an audience communicating. Communicating to the point of collaborating. I've thought, "maybe I'm over; maybe I've said my piece". But never with fear. Never with rancor. Because of y'all. Because you knew me when. If you think topping a box office record compares with someone telling you your work helped them through a rough time, you're probably new here. (For the record, and despite my inhuman distance from the joy-joy of it: topping a box office record is super-dope. I'm an alien, not a robot.) So this is me, saying thank you. All of you. You've taken as much guff for loving my work as I have for over-writing it, and you deserve, in this our time of streaming into the main, to crow.

Whedon will be able to write his own ticket for a long time. Time to get Firefly back up and running!

 

[Chaka]

Oh and great flick. Not much more can be said about it that hasn't been said in here already.

Those that don't like it enjoy kicking puppies.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Oh and great flick. Not much more can be said about it that hasn't been said in here already. Those that don't like it enjoy kicking puppies.

People that don't like this movie hate America.But seriously, you could pick any random art house film, and you'll see plenty of disagreements about the movie. With Avengers, I am surprised to read negative reviews. If you didn't like it, what exactly were you expecting? Good action, good characters, and a lot of solid humor to lighten the mood. What's not to like?

 

[Chaka]

Oh and great flick. Not much more can be said about it that hasn't been said in here already. Those that don't like it enjoy kicking puppies.

People that don't like this movie hate America.But seriously, you could pick any random art house film, and you'll see plenty of disagreements about the movie. With Avengers, I am surprised to read negative reviews. If you didn't like it, what exactly were you expecting? Good action, good characters, and a lot of solid humor to lighten the mood. What's not to like?

No puppy kicking.

 

[The Dude]

Rumored to release the 3 hour directors cut to theaters in August. Disney would like to make it the highest domestic grossing movie of all time.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Oh and great flick. Not much more can be said about it that hasn't been said in here already. Those that don't like it enjoy kicking puppies.

People that don't like this movie hate America.But seriously, you could pick any random art house film, and you'll see plenty of disagreements about the movie. With Avengers, I am surprised to read negative reviews. If you didn't like it, what exactly were you expecting? Good action, good characters, and a lot of solid humor to lighten the mood. What's not to like?

AND a couple of hot babes thrown in.Lets not forget the great special effects .

 

[parasaurolophus]

Rumored to release the 3 hour directors cut to theaters in August. Disney would like to make it the highest domestic grossing movie of all time.

Does that even count for the total?Titanic was rereleased and the numbers for its domestic gross have not been adjusted at all on IMDB's all time list.