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The Beatles’ ‘Revolver’ Turns 50: A Psychedelic Masterpiece That Rewrote the Rules of Rock


‘Revolver’ is the sound of a band brimming with curiosity, confident in its ideas and delivering uncalculated greatness. Rock listened, and never looked back.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/the-beatles-revolver-turns-50-a-psychedelic-masterpiece-that-rewrote-the-rules-of-rock.html


Celebrating 'Revolver': Beatles' First On-Purpose Masterpiece


How 1966 album showcased band at its cocky creative peak

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/celebrating-revolver-beatles-first-on-purpose-masterpiece-w432935

* The Beatles' 'Revolver' Turns 50: Classic Track-by-Track Rundown

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7461767/beatles-revolver-album-anniversary
Revolver has been my favorite Beatles album since the first time I found the UK version.  Removing Dr Robert, And Your Bird Can Sing, and I'm Only Sleeping from the American version made it very much a lesser album.

What's funny is I'm not even sure how I found out there was a UK version.  There was no Internet back then.  I was about 14 or so.  Maybe I was also reading some books on the Beatles at the time too.  My mom had the American version. I listened to it and liked it, but I can remember being in some record store and coming across a version of Revolver with 3 extra songs.  I guess I saw it was Parlophone and not Capitol and put it together in my mind.  I think after that, I went around looking specifically for the Parolphone versions of the pre 1967 records.

 
I also cannot wait to see the new film...
I think only shown one day, Thursday 9-15 (?), and my local theater not selling tickets for the event until two days before, so not only check the local times and listings, but also ticket sales details. It is also going to be screened with the Shea concert (30 + 90 minutes?).

This will also no doubt get a Blu-ray/DVD release (possibly before Christmas), no idea if Shea will be included as a bonus?

 
Revolver has been my favorite Beatles album since the first time I found the UK version.  Removing Dr Robert, And Your Bird Can Sing, and I'm Only Sleeping from the American version made it very much a lesser album.

What's funny is I'm not even sure how I found out there was a UK version.  There was no Internet back then.  I was about 14 or so.  Maybe I was also reading some books on the Beatles at the time too.  My mom had the American version. I listened to it and liked it, but I can remember being in some record store and coming across a version of Revolver with 3 extra songs.  I guess I saw it was Parlophone and not Capitol and put it together in my mind.  I think after that, I went around looking specifically for the Parolphone versions of the pre 1967 records.
I knew absolutely nothing about Parlophone and Capitol until this thread. I had never read a Beatles book previously (Emerick and started Lewisohn since), so needless to see this thread represented a massive source of information, I've gone back and read it all the way through at least a second time since 2009. Thanks.

I also liked the 1+ package with the cleaned up video on Blu-ray last year.

This thread also inspired my interest to branch out and explore the post-Beatles solo work.

Somewhat unexpectedly, Harrison has maybe become my favorite solo artist. I've been listening to his Apple Years box a lot lately (and just started back in with the Dark Horse Years box, I do prefer the former). For someone who discovered the slide guitar style relatively late, he became a master at it, made it his own distinctive signature and one of the best.

George Harrison - World Of Stone (even from a generally maligned album like Extra Texture, there are gems like this - and didn't realize it, but I think all of the post-ATMP albums released by Apple with maybe one exception charted in the top 20)   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mmm8TC3As

With Clapton in Japan '91 - Devil's Radio (VIDEO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek42bXirDjs

Taxman same show/tour (VIDEO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OgkjcW0g4

Harrison/Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps '87 (VIDEO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDs2Bkq6UU4

Here Comes The Sun same show? (VIDEO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGKPHFrHVVY

Harrison - Something '92 (VIDEO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwn0qY2qY_s

From ATMP

Wah Wah (AUDIO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usGObvP42GM

Awaiting On You All (AUDIO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGI3RWBhuUo

* I want to put together a CD with just Harrison's Beatles songs.

Also listened to a lot of McCartney (I & II, Band On The Run, Ram, to a lesser extent, Wings Over America, Venus and Mars and Speed Of Sound - Ram has become my favorite), more so than Lennon, though I intend to explore his body of work more (have the box).     

 
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I knew absolutely nothing about Parlophone and Capitol until this thread. I had never read a Beatles book previously (Emerick and started Lewisohn since), so needless to see this thread represented a massive source of information, I've gone back and read it all the way through at least a second time since 2009. Thanks.
I appreciate the kind words.  Thank you so much.

 
So how popular are the Beatles still??  I still think they are enormously popular.  My cousin, who has differences of opinion with regards to music says that nobody listens to the Beatles anymore.  Zeppelin is the best band ever and people still love them.  He really has no concept of the full range of the Beatles catalogue as he keeps talking about "not enough bass" in their music, which tells me he's probably heard I Want To Hold Your Hand and She Loves You and maybe some of the earlier hits.  So he's speaking about stuff that he has no concept of.  He also doesn't like "vocal harmonies", whatever the hell that means.  He was also spouting off about Pearl Jam until I actually pointed out the Beatles outsold Pearl Jam at their commercial peak in the 90s.

Love Zeppelin.  I think Zeppelin is the Beatles of the hard rock genre, but IMO, the only period in which Zeppelin was perhaps more popular than the Beatles was in the 70s...maybe.  The amount of product the Beatles still move is astonishing when you consider they haven't been a band in 50 years.  I think I read somewhere that they were the still the top selling band in the world as late as the 2000's (1 was HUGE).  Anyway, what do you think?


I think you could argue that The Beatles were the #1 band of the first decade of the 2000s. 1 was a huge hit. Love was a top five album plus a hit Cirque show. Let It Be...Naked was a top ten album. All the rereleases were big hits in 2009 in both the UK and US. The week after their release, The Beatles held 9 of the top 20 spots on the US album chart. The 2009 box set went triple platinum. I'm pretty sure even their exclusive Rock Band game was a big seller. 

 
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Funny thing last night.  I was re-reading this thread a little to remind myself of the discussions.  Just great stuff from everyone involved.  

I told my wife that if I ever die, she needs to come in this thread and tell people since this is the one thing I am known for on this board.

 
A demo record of a song written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney and sung by McCartney himself has sold at auction in Britain for about £21,000 (NZ$32,000).

The record, It's For You was written especially for the late British singer Cilla Black and became a hit for her in 1964.

Black's nephew, Simon White, found the acetate record in his father's collection, mislabelled as being sung by his famous aunt, who died in 2015.  McCartney wrote several songs for Black, including the theme for her TV show, Step Inside Love, and It's For You.

According to the BBC, White took the acetate record along with about 20 others to the Beatles Shop in Liverpool to be valued. Store manager Stephen Bailey played a stack of discs expecting only to hear Black's voice. 

"We got to the last one and," Bailey told the BBC, "as soon as I heard it, I thought: 'Oh God, that's not Cilla Black, it's Paul McCartney'.

"I was shaking with excitement and speechless."

Bailey says the quality of the recording is excellent, despite its age.
This is a great early McCartney song. Here is a 20 second clip of the demo  I'm surprised it only went for $32k.
 

Cilla Black's version (with  John & Paul cameo appearance)

Three Dog NIght did a completely different arrangement of the song

And here is a version by someone trying to sound like the Beatles.  It isn't half bad.

 
For those that think they've heard everything by the Beatles, DON'T have the two double CD BBC collections below and aren't necessarily averse to early Beatles, there is a treasure trove of material, like an undiscovered land. Mostly covers, but unmistakably the Beatles performing them.    

"It was the first official release by The Beatles of previously unissued performances since The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl in 1977, and the first containing previously unreleased songs since Let It Be in 1970." 

Live at the BBC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_BBC_(Beatles_album)

On Air - Live at the BBC Volume 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Air_–_Live_at_the_BBC_Volume_2

Disc 1 (AUDIO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YR3y5Gl3HY&list=PLUvvb3L__Q9vG2U9OafNP05cS7XOWyOno

Disc 2 (AUDIO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPmMJReuVCo&list=PLUvvb3L__Q9srY5yd35y_myIjh4dIHE3R

Other post-Beatles Beatles releases include Love mentioned by Bentley (as well as Let It Be... Naked, see below), which is an interesting mash up but of existing songs. Yellow Submarine Songtrack omits the George Martin orchestral score cues, expands the track list to include other songs from the animated film and involves re-mixing (?). Let It Be... Naked strips away the Phil Spector embellishments. And the new Hollywood Bowl concert live album may have had an official vinyl release, but the 9/9/16 iteration is the first official CD release, and holds the hope and promise of improved sonics (re-mastered by George Martin's son).      

 
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With Yoko Ono gracing some of Lennon's solo body of work with her inimitable howling, yodeling and caterwauling, I always thought it would be great to have her on a series of "augmented" classics - like Pachelbel's Canon, Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, Bach's Brandenberg Concertos and Goldberg Variations, Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 (the list could go on).  

 
Gimme Some Truth: The Making Of Imagine by John Lennon (VIDEO), in seven parts, may be missing part four.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jJzOvnAla0 

* There is a VH1 Classics edition of The Plastic Ono Band (he had done some extra-Beatles experimental work with Yoko before they split up, but his first album proper post-Beatles - Imagine was second, probably his two best came immediately post-Beatles, much like ATMP and Living In The Material World by Harrison, as well as Ringo and Goodnight Vienna by Starr).   

 
Beatles documentary offers fresh look at touring years

http://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/article/Beatles-documentary-offers-fresh-look-at-touring-9207923.php

Most Beatles fans feel they know the story — four lads from Liverpool scrape around clubs, get a record deal, take America by storm. When John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr burst out of their British port city in the early ’60s, their music set off a cultural revolution whose ripples continue to shape pop culture more than 45 years after their breakup. It’s one thing, though, to vaguely understand they were a kick-### live act, that Beatlemania was mind-bogglingly intense, and they were a band of brothers — and quite another to experience it from the inside.

Oscar winner Ron Howard’s documentary, “The Beatles: Eight Days a Week — The Touring Years,” tries to achieve just that. It boasts unprecedented access into the years culminating in their retirement from touring — including their final official concert, at Candlestick Park in 1966. The theatrical release includes the band’s entire, 30-minute 1965 Shea Stadium concert — shot on multiple 35mm cameras with the image restored to 4K and the audio remastered from soundboard recordings at Abbey Road Studios.

“Eight Days” enjoys interviews new (including with Sir Paul and Ringo) and old (including with the dear, departed John and George) and outtakes from other documentaries. But some of its most stirring elements come from crowdsourcing.

More than a decade ago, Apple Corps put out a call — later greatly boosted by social media — for fans’ footage and artifacts from that period. The result is a treasure trove of fresh, intimate views of the most influential band in pop music history.

Producer Nigel Sinclair said the 2014 Facebook appeal (the band’s page has 42 million likes) resulted in a deluge, though often in fragments.

“Sometimes when you piece footage together, you can reveal a truth that’s there,” the veteran producer says. “You watch Paul listening to a transistor radio, and we found another piece of footage and you realize he’s listening to John talking on the radio live; John’s in another room” doing the interview.

Sometimes they discovered startlingly immediate moments.

“In Australia, they’re playing ‘You Can’t Do That’ and a fan has a color camera that’s filming them,” Sinclair says. “George is singing, and in between he’s looking down at this person — who knows, maybe it was a pretty girl; he was 20, he’s a young man — so she keeps getting this dead-on eye contact with this Beatle. You feel, ‘This is a live moment, a magic moment.’”

The film offers ultimate proof of the Beatles’ power as live performers. So often, poor acoustics and impenetrable walls of teenage screams had obscured the quality of their playing. Not anymore. The Abbey Road Studios team led by longtime Beatles producer George Martin’s son, Giles, painstakingly polished the audio — largely from soundboards, rather than fan cameras — into the best, clearest-sounding tour recordings yet heard from the Fab Four.

The post-production sound team, including Chris Jenkins (a three-time Oscar-winning engineer), trod the fine line between bringing the audio up to today’s standards and altering it in any way that made it less Beatles. Jenkins and Sinclair both point out the unexpected muscle of, for instance, Ringo Starr’s drumming on a performance of “Boys.”

But what longtime fans may come away with, emotionally, is the confirmation of the brotherhood that was the Beatles. Those poisoned by the bickering of their Oscar-winning 1970 documentary, “Let It Be,” may find this a kind of antidote. The view from the eye of the hurricane finds them sticking together amid the swirling madness.

Larry Kane was 21, a radio reporter in Florida, when he was offered the chance to tag along with the Beatles on their first American tour in 1964. Kane bonded with them on the long road, in part over his, Lennon’s and McCartney’s shared loss of their mothers. Kane marvels at how human the fab fellas remained — comforting him, sincerely checking in with the opening acts their crowds were ignoring and displaying deep interest in current events.

“One of the real surprises of the entire tour was the intellectual curiosity of Ringo Starr,” Kane says. “How outspoken he was about racism, about war. He still is that way today. He’s a very serious person, much more than people thought. So was George.”

When the band learned their audience in Jacksonville, Fla., was to be segregated by race, they reacted swiftly.

“McCartney was the first one, when I mentioned the Gator Bowl, who got up and said, ‘We’re not doing that. We’re simply not going there if that’s the case,’” Kane says. “Then John chimed in, they all did. There wasn’t even a debate. It was just, ‘This is not going to happen.’

“They had a tremendous working man’s distaste for people who mistreated individuals. I think that had a lot to do with coming from Liverpool.”

Today, the Beatles remain potent enough to sell 2 million songs in their first week on iTunes, while movies continue to be made about them and their Cirque du Soleil show, “Love,” is in its 11th year in Las Vegas. The world’s fascination has endured, even among its most powerful people.

“I was an anchorman in Philadelphia for 40 years,” Kane says. “In 1980, at the end of the election, we set up interviews with Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter. Carter … was depressed. He leaned over, he said, ‘Larry, when the interviews are over, can you spend a few minutes and tell me what the Beatles were really like?’”

 
Bob- I've been asleep at the wheel and missed a whole slew of this thread- thanks once again!

 
Thanks, Glock - credit to saintsfan and other contributors for the great thread.

'Eight Days a Week' embraces The Beatles as a live sensation

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2016/09/09/beatles-documentary-paul-mccartney-ringo-starr-ron-howard/89990308/

"The documentary (in theaters Sept. 16, on Hulu Sept. 17), directed by Ron Howard , tracks the group in concert — from the beginnings of Beatlemania through their last trek in 1966 — using fan-sourced clips and new and archival interviews."

"Howard's idea was to look at "this moment of this kind of explosion through the point where it wasn’t really sustainable and make an adventure story out of it," says the director, who watched John Lennon , George Harrison , McCartney and Starr burst into American consciousness in 1964 on The Ed Sullivan Show."

In The Beatles: Eight Days a Week, Ron Howard shows pop history at full throttle

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/09/12/in-the-beatles-eight-days-a-week-ron-howard-shows-pop-history-at/

* Thought this was just a one night event theatrical release, but at the nearby theater where I'm seeing it, it is showing for a week, with two shows daily (including matinee as well as evening).   

 
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I think this opens tonight in select theaters across the US, showing for one week. Seeing the matinee tomorrow (looks like three showings on weekend). Premiers on Hulu Sat, 9/17.


The music buoys Ron Howard's doc 'The Beatles: Eight Days a Week — The Touring Years'


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-beatles-eight-days-review-20160913-snap-story.html


Ron Howard's Beatles Doc 'Eight Days a Week': 10 Things We Learned


John Lennon's pep talk, America's first Beatlemaniac and other highlights from long-awaited film

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/beatles-new-touring-documentary-10-things-we-learned-w439371

Eight Days A Week: how Ron Howard brought the Beatles back to life




Howard’s new film captures the sweat, screams and cultural significance of the band’s touring years. He explains why the Fab Four still fascinates him




https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/sep/13/beatles-eight-days-week-ron-howard

 
I liked the doc, though I'd already seen a lot of clips from the Anthology and early Maysles bros. docs. The best part was seeing it in the theater (though a pretty small screen), and especially, through the sound system. They also ran a cleaned up (4K scan resolution), 30 minute version of their Shea Stadium performance after the credit roll. Confirmed it is now on Hulu (the doc proper, don't think the Shea show is). As with the album below, you could hear the music very well through selectively mixing the screaming down in the sound track. No doubt, far better than the Beatles themselves could, who often complained they could hear little else other than the screams. Despite that, it was impressive how tight they were for the most part despite the appalling acoustic circumstances (had no choice but to use the Shea Stadium PA system).    

Didn't mention it, but also liked the re-mastered Hollywood Bowl companion album, the Beatles only OFFICIAL full live concert document (aside from the excerpts of the rooftop concert on Let It Be, the two volumes of BBC recordings and any fragments on the three volumes of Anthology). George Martin's son et all through Abbey Road studio and audio engineering wizardry were able to significantly mute the jet engine roar of audience screams, so (from recollection, without doing an A/B comparison) I think it is significantly easier to hear and appreciate the music.      

 
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Saw the documentary on Saturday on my big screen at home.

There was lots of stuff I hadn't seen before, although not too much that I didn't know.  Liked the sound on the live performances.  They really cleaned it up.  Loved the clip of I Saw Her Standing There in Washington DC.  Ringo is beating the crap out of those drums.

Laughed out loud at the part with Vox making these special 100 Watt amps for the Shea Stadium show.  I play to about 200 people every Sunday using a 50 Watt amp in church. They were playing to 56,000 people with 100 watt amps.  Just absurd.

The Beatles invented something that didn't exist before, the stadium concert, but there wasn't any equipment to support such a thing.

 
I genuinely enjoy this thread, thanks for the work.

I saw Macca & Ringo on CBS yesterday morning and it's such an odd juxtaposition that they are the two left to discuss the history. Ringo is glib and will run off and tell a story and McCartney will try to couch it, but say yeah that's what happened. The four of them together today would still be great. McCartney explained how they could play together during those insane stadium concerts because they had spent so much time together practicing as kids. He also explained how they knew their touring was over when they got shoved into the back of an armored car to get out of Candlestick, just pretty much stuck in a metal box. Had to be weird.

 
I think you could argue that The Beatles were the #1 band of the first decade of the 2000s. 1 was a huge hit. Love was a top five album plus a hit Cirque show. Let It Be...Naked was a top ten album. All the rereleases were big hits in 2009 in both the UK and US. The week after their release, The Beatles held 9 of the top 20 spots on the US album chart. The 2009 box set went triple platinum. I'm pretty sure even their exclusive Rock Band game was a big seller. 
Live At The Hollywood Bowl came out on 9/9 and is currently #1 in both the rock and pop categories at Amazon.

The Beatles Announce DVD Release Details of 'Eight Days a Week: The Touring Years'

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7511325/beatles-eight-days-a-week-touring-years-dvd-release

On Monday (Sept. 19), only days after the Ron Howard film The Beatles: Eight Days a Week -- The Touring Years premiered in theaters and on Hulu, the Beatles' Apple Corps Ltd. announced that the DVD of the film will be released in stores on Nov. 18. The documentary, authorized by the Fab Four-founded corporation, will be available on DVD and Blu-ray on a single disc, as well as in a two-disc set with extra features and a 64-page booklet. 

Those extras will include a 24-minute short on the Beatles' songwriting and how they were influenced by their parents' music, an Early Clues to a New Direction feature that touches on the group's humor and their presence as a social movement, and a look at the making of the band's classic 1964 film A Hard Day's Night, as well as an alternative opening scene. In addition, the DVD set showcases the Beatles in concert with several rare full-length clips, with special focus on their trips to Japan and Australia, and includes testimony from '60s pop star Ronnie Spector of the Ronettes about the rock legends.

The announced extras also include "Recollections of Shea Stadium," but there are no immediate details yet on how much of the remastered 30-minute film of the Shea Stadium concert performance -- which was shown exclusively in theaters with Eight Days a Week -- will be included with the DVD set. A lawsuit was filed by a group representing the family of concert promoter Sid Bernstein on Sept. 12, days before the film opened, over use of the Shea Stadium footage. 

The Beatles: Eight Days a Week: The Touring Years had its world premiere on Sept. 15, and opened in theaters the next day. On Sept. 17, the film became available to subscribers of Hulu, without the extra Shea Stadium film. 

 
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I genuinely enjoy this thread, thanks for the work.

I saw Macca & Ringo on CBS yesterday morning and it's such an odd juxtaposition that they are the two left to discuss the history. Ringo is glib and will run off and tell a story and McCartney will try to couch it, but say yeah that's what happened. The four of them together today would still be great. McCartney explained how they could play together during those insane stadium concerts because they had spent so much time together practicing as kids. He also explained how they knew their touring was over when they got shoved into the back of an armored car to get out of Candlestick, just pretty much stuck in a metal box. Had to be weird.
Actually the two never really worked and practiced together much as "kids"- may have been a few sets when their paths crossed in England or Germany - but Ringo didn't jump in until 62 - after John, Paul and George had been together a bit. So they didn't share much of the war stories of Hamburg, etal together. I think that is why Paul is a bit off in his relationship with Ringo.

 
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Actually the two never really worked and practiced together much as "kids"- may have been a few sets when their paths crossed in England or Germany - but Ringo didn't jump in until 62 - after John, Paul and George had been together a bit. So they didn't share much of the war stories of Hamburg, etal together. I think that is why Paul is a bit off in his relationship with Ringo.
I was surprised to learn that the band had been together for 4.5 years before Ringo joined and that he came in during the recording of the album:

The Hurricanes became so successful that when initially offered a highly coveted residency in Hamburg, they turned it down because of their prior commitment with Butlins.[45] They eventually accepted, joining the Beatles at Bruno Koschmider's Kaiserkeller on 1 October 1960, where Starr first met the band.[46] Storm's Hurricanes were given top-billing over the Beatles, who also received less pay.[47] Starr performed with the Beatles during a few stand-in engagements while in Hamburg. On 15 October 1960, he drummed with John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison, recording with them for the first time while backing Hurricanes singer Lu Walters on the George Gershwin aria "Summertime".[48][nb 2] During Starr's first stay in Hamburg he also met Tony Sheridan, who valued his drumming abilities to the point of asking Starr to leave the Hurricanes and join his band.[50] Starr quit Rory Storm and the Hurricanes in January 1962 and briefly joined Sheridan in Hamburg before returning to the Hurricanes for a third season at Butlins.[51][nb 3]

Martin's first recording session with the Beatles took place at EMI's Abbey Road Studios in London on 6 June 1962.[38] Martin immediately complained to Epstein about Best's poor drumming and suggested they use a session drummer in his place.[39] Already contemplating Best's dismissal,[40] the Beatles replaced him in mid-August with Ringo Starr, who left Rory Storm and the Hurricanes to join them.[38]  On 14 August, Lennon asked Starr to join the Beatles; he accepted.[53] On 16 August, Beatles manager Brian Epstein fired their drummer, Pete Best, who recalled: "He said 'I've got some bad news for you. The boys want you out and Ringo in.' He said [Beatles producer] George Martin wasn't too pleased with my playing [and] the boys thought I didn't fit in."[54] Starr first performed as a member of the band on 18 August 1962, at a horticultural society dance at Port Sunlight.[55] After his appearance at the Cavern Club the following day, Best fans, upset by his firing, held vigils outside his house and at the club shouting "Pete forever! Ringo never!"[52] Harrison received a black eye from one of the upset fans, and Epstein, whose car tyres they had flattened in anger, temporarily hired a bodyguard to ensure his safety.[56]

A 4 September session at EMI yielded a recording of "Love Me Do" featuring Starr on drums, but a dissatisfied Martin hired drummer Andy White for the band's third session a week later, which produced recordings of "Love Me Do", "Please Please Me" and "P.S. I Love You".[38] Martin initially selected the Starr version of "Love Me Do" for the band's first single, though subsequent re-pressings featured the White version, with Starr on tambourine.[38]

 
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Paul, Ringo and Ron Howard interviewed on the new Touring Years doc from CBS Sunday Morning (VIDEO 7 minutes)

http://www.spin.com/2016/09/bruce-springsteen-born-to-run-paul-mccartney-ringo-starr-cbs-sunday-morning-watch/

saintsfan noted it, The Beatles invented arena rock, but it is mind boggling to think of the sheer scale of it, it must have been an incredible shock and quantum jump from their origins AT THE TIME (though we take it for granted now, hard to use our imagination to situate ourselves in their world, what it must have been like). Funny, because stage monitors literally hadn't been invented yet (understandably anticipating the need lagged behind when the phenomenon itself had just been created), they literally couldn't hear a thing on stage, so Ringo described purely visual cues such as Paul's foot tapping, John's body movement and internal rhythm and when they would shake their heads in unison for the "woooh" parts, etc. Good for them that they fought segregation at these venues in the South (not sure if it was then or later they incurred death threats from the KKK).     

Also, the evolution of their writing, song craft and technical possibilities for recording and engineering in the studio (recounted in the Geoff Emerick book) in just a few years. Later songs might take weeks/months to complete (not continuous studio time, but booked intermittently in a busy schedule), whereas at the beginning most of an album might be completed in a day or two.      

* Good stuff, I've listened to this a few times in the past few days. Includes demos, rarities, live tracks, etc.

Lennon Anthology (missing Disc 3 - The Lost Weekend) 

Disc 1 - Ascot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haQC3B8gYhA

Disc 2 - New York City

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ofoPzuvZcc

Disc 4 - Dakota

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B3Td9VN5Ck&list=PLUvvb3L__Q9tK9KoBZ1dEyZPfLms3FXRT

 
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ffldrew said:
Actually the two never really worked and practiced together much as "kids"- may have been a few sets when their paths crossed in England or Germany - but Ringo didn't jump in until 62 - after John, Paul and George had been together a bit. So they didn't share much of the war stories of Hamburg, etal together. I think that is why Paul is a bit off in his relationship with Ringo.
Ringo played Hamburg with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes at the same time the Beatles played there.  John, Paul, and George knew Rory Storm and Ringo well and hung out with them.  Ringo even sat in on drums for them a few times when Pete Best was AWOL. 

I don't think Paul's relationship with Riingo is off.   They've played together many times on stage, played on each other's records, Ringo and his wife starred in Paul's movie,  Paul has written and produced songs for Ringo,  attended his wedding, etc.   

Aside from some tense times when the Beatles were breaking up Paul and Ringo seem like they are on pretty good terms although I doubt that either of their schedules allow them to hang out much.

 
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The Howard doc is slated to be released on Blu-ray/DVD this Friday 11/18/16, and comes in deluxe and standard editions.

AFAIK, still on Hulu?

 
Just saw a commercial that said the Beatles channel on SiriusXM is comped through 5/30.
Yep.  So far I like it though I wish they would play more uninterrupted music.  That is one major problem I have with Sirius/XM is their incessant promos on music stations.  Just play the music, I don't need to here the scratchy record intros on classic vinyl or the sitcom theme song parodies on the 70s station, etc.   The Beatles station has a ton of them -- hopefully they'll dial them back a little after a while.

 
Is there anything viewable at Abbey Road Studios?  I'll be down the street from it in a few weeks and was curious if the give guided tours or anything like that.

 
Yep.  So far I like it though I wish they would play more uninterrupted music.  That is one major problem I have with Sirius/XM is their incessant promos on music stations.  Just play the music, I don't need to here the scratchy record intros on classic vinyl or the sitcom theme song parodies on the 70s station, etc.   The Beatles station has a ton of them -- hopefully they'll dial them back a little after a while.
Listened a few times.  I like listening to the deeper cuts and the "influences" songs.  Hasn't disappointed but agree the promos are annoying.

 
Bob Magaw said:
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Never used that many, but one for each decade!

Thanks for the heads up and recommending it to the attention of the thread.

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howzabout one for each year? can i get a fitty spot here? :D

looking forward to hearing Ringo's punched up percussion ...  the Pepper reprise/DITL especially  

 
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howzabout one for each year? can i get a fitty spot here? :D

looking forward to hearing Ringo's punched up percussion ...  the Pepper reprise/DITL especially  
The Sgt. Pepper's 50 Box is great.

1) 4 CDs including new stereo mix informed by the original mono plus multi-track breakdowns.

2) DVD includes 1992 making of doc. (exactly midway between 1967 and 2017).

3) Blu-ray audio disc with 5.1 surround sound in 96/24 hi res audio.

4) Impressive HC book (also few posters and replicas of some of the original included art).

 
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The Sgt. Pepper's 50 Box is great.

1) 4 CDs including new stereo mix informed by the original mono plus multi-track breakdowns.

2) DVD includes 1992 making of doc. (exactly midway between 1967 and 2017).

3) Blu-ray audio disc with 5.1 surround sound in 96/24 hi res audio.

4) Impressive HC book (also few posters and replicas of some of the original included art).
Happy Father's Day to me!  :D   yeah, i buy a gift for myself every year, and this will be version 2017 

 
Has anybody heard the remixed Pepper??

I got it last Friday.  Got the big box because...well, I'm a nut.  The box is very well done, but I can't help but think I would have been just as happy with the 2 CD set, but I guess some people collect video games, I collect Beatles.  Anyway I've gotten through it in the last 6 days.

Packaging is real nice.  LOVE the full size album cover that houses all the discs.  I had forgotten how much detail was on that cover.  Stared at it for hours.  People who weren't alive during the LP error have no clue how much better it is to have a large cover.  The book is great.  Lots of detail.  Cool poster and cutouts.  It's all stored in a heavy duty box with a 3D cover which is also kind of cool.

As far as the music, I love all the outtakes.  Within You Without You is awesome instrumental.  I actually love all the instrumentals.  The different takes of Strawberry Fields is cool too.  Had heard some of it, but not all.  I love that they included the mono version of Pepper in the box.  That's cool.  The Documentary was also well done. Cool that they got George's thoughts before he died.  I personally hadn't seen this documentary, but apparently it's been around for awhile.  The 5.1 Mixes are a cool thing, but I probably won't listen to them too much.

Which brings us to the real star of the show, the 2017 Remix.  For those that don't know, in 1967 Mono was really still the standard.  Stereo was in it's infancy.  The Beatles weren't even in attendance for the stereo mix, so all the stuff they wanted in was in the mono.  If you listen to the two back to back, you will notice several differences between stereo and mono.  Different sounds and different effects and even one song in a different key.  Most people have only heard the stereo, but the stereo mix was very much of it's time.  Vocals mixed to one side in some cases.  Weird things moving across the stereo landscape.  For sure, a song like A Day In The Life was much better in stereo, but the rockers like Good Morning Good Morning and Sgt Pepper Reprise sounded punchier in mono.

So Giles Martin, son of George Martin decides to go back to the mono tapes and kind of peel back the layers and try and do a more modern stereo mix.  Giles said he was looking for "3D Mono."  He wanted to have the in your face aspects of the mono with the space that stereo allows for.

IMO, he succeeded.  First thing, lots of the mono only sounds you hear are on the new mix.  The warbling of John's voice on Lucy In The Sky with Diamonds.  The extra crowd noises and Paul's yelling at the end of Sgt Pepper Reprise.  She's Leaving Home is sped up here, in the same key as the mono.  The transition between Good Morning Good Morning and Sgt Pepper Reprise is also a bit smoother like the mono.  Second, everything seems punchier.  The raunchiness of the guitars on the opening track jumps out of the speakers.  The bass and drums sound very heavy on the entire record.  Everything seems to be more audible, yet also raunchier.  Third, the moments where the stereo should shine like A Day In The Life are unreal.

So, to wrap up, this mix of Pepper is the one that I will listen to going forward.  I would suggest getting it.  If this much care will be taken with remixing the Beatles stereo catalogue, I would be all for it.  Several albums could use this treatment.  Help, Rubber Soul, and Revolver for starters.  Maybe the White Album too.

 

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