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The FBG Top 300 Books of All Time (fiction edition) | We are currently up to #32 | Running list in posts #3 and #4 (6 Viewers)

37. Dracula by Bram Stoker
KeithR: #2 :clap:
Frostillicus: #26
Dr. Octopus: #31
turnjose7: #39
chaos34: #39
krista4: #68
Total points: 287
Average: 47.8

We seem to have passed this without any commentary. For whatever reason I've never read it. Talk to me.
I had it as my #26 and I don't even like the ending all that much. It is one of the creepiest books I've ever read. The kind of book where the hair on the back of neck stands up reading some of the his descriptions of the setting. Give it a shot, we seem to have pretty similar tastes.
 
Caveat. Another epistolary novel that slows the pace. It isn't Les Mis slow, but it bogs down if you're anticipating a thrill ride horror story. The journal entries and letters add both intimacy and suspense for me. Stoker is clever though and drives the story through news clippings once things get weird in London. Great stuff.
Yeah, I loved the way Stoker did this. I don't think I would've like the book as much if it was just linear prose.Ye

Yes, this too. Slow burn for sure.
 
This thread will contain the top 300 books as determined by FBG.

The previous thread discussing rules, etc. is here.

To reiterate:
We limited submissions to works of fiction. Novels, including graphic novels and short story collections, were fair game. This included YA and children's books. Plays were also allowed (please note that a screenplay was also submitted and accepted. I apologize in advance if this causes anyone indigestion.)

Books comprising a series (e.g., Wheel of Time, Harry Potter) had to be submitted one book at a time (with one notable exception, which, although split into three books, was done so at the behest of the publisher and not the author).

Here is the scoring system that was used.
Rank Points
1 140
2 135
3 130
4 125
5 120
6 115
7 110
8 105
9 100
10 95
11 90
12 86
13 82
14 78
15 74
16 70
17 67
18 64
19 61
20 58
21 55
22 53
23 51
24 49
25 47
26 45
27 44
28 43
29 42
30 41
31 40
32 39
33 38
34 37
35 36
36 35
37 34
38 33
39 32
40 31
41 30
42 29
43 28
44 27
45 26
46 25
47 24
48 23
49 22
50 21
51 20
52 19
53 18
54 17
55 16
56 15
57 14
58 13
59 12
60 11
61 10
62 9
63 8
64 7
65 6
66 5
67 4
68 3
69 2
70 1
The scoring system is designed to "reward" the top 25 books.

Lastly, I'd like to propose that we adhere to the Fiver rule (translation: the Thumper rule for books). Please refrain from disparaging remarks about selections. Criticism is acceptable. Mean-spirited remarks are not. I recognize that this is a somewhat vague distinction, but let's be cognizant of the intent of the rule.

In other words: Be best.

Thanks for doing this.

I'm not clear on the final list though.

Where is the list ranked 1-300 of the books?
 
Where is the list ranked 1-300 of the books?
There's a running list in posts #3 and #4 of this thread (although #4 might be a bit behind; krista4 is on holiday and I wasn't savvy enough to have reserved that spot :D ).
I will also be making the google sheet available at the conclusion of the reveal. It'll have the entire ranked list (i.e., all 832 books), a tab of statistics (e.g., # of books by author) and everyone's submitted list.
 
Where is the list ranked 1-300 of the books?
There's a running list in posts #3 and #4 of this thread (although #4 might be a bit behind; krista4 is on holiday and I wasn't savvy enough to have reserved that spot :D ).
I will also be making the google sheet available at the conclusion of the reveal. It'll have the entire ranked list (i.e., all 832 books), a tab of statistics (e.g., # of books by author) and everyone's submitted list.
Thanks. So the number on the left is the ranking? I thought what was somehow the score or something.

And you're just through #40?

That makes more sense.
 
Remains of the Day is so good. If you thought Age of Innocence didn’t have enough repressed emotions, than Remains of the Days is for you.

But then, I suppose, when with the benefit of hindsight one begins to search one's past for such 'turning points', one is apt to start seeing them everywhere.
 
I'm loving the variety in the rankings. In most case, consecutive books couldn't be more different. Case in point ...


33The OdysseyHomerturnjose7, Mrs.Marco, Don Quixote, KeithR, Psychopav
32The Remains of the DayKazuo Ishigurokupcho1, ilove80s, Don Quixote, Oliver Humanzee, krista4

33. The Odyssey by Homer
Mrs.Marco: #3 :clap:
KeithR: #20
turnjose7: #22
Psychopav: #35
Don Quixote: #46
Total points: 302
Average: 60.4

32. The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro
Don Quixote: #6 :clap:
krista4: #8 :clap:
Oliver Humanzee: #40
ilov80s: #42
kupcho1: #46
Total points: 305
Average: 61.0

I'll probably pop back in later to talk about The Remains of the Day, but I may save my powder for tomorrow.
On the one hand I'm excited to talk about my #1 overall pick. But on the other hand, I'm a little disappointed it didn't rank higher overall.
#1 pick? It says #46 above. :confused:
 
I'm loving the variety in the rankings. In most case, consecutive books couldn't be more different. Case in point ...


33The OdysseyHomerturnjose7, Mrs.Marco, Don Quixote, KeithR, Psychopav
32The Remains of the DayKazuo Ishigurokupcho1, ilove80s, Don Quixote, Oliver Humanzee, krista4

33. The Odyssey by Homer
Mrs.Marco: #3 :clap:
KeithR: #20
turnjose7: #22
Psychopav: #35
Don Quixote: #46
Total points: 302
Average: 60.4

32. The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro
Don Quixote: #6 :clap:
krista4: #8 :clap:
Oliver Humanzee: #40
ilov80s: #42
kupcho1: #46
Total points: 305
Average: 61.0

I'll probably pop back in later to talk about The Remains of the Day, but I may save my powder for tomorrow.
On the one hand I'm excited to talk about my #1 overall pick. But on the other hand, I'm a little disappointed it didn't rank higher overall.
Removing formatting. I can type up something on Remains of the Day later.
 
#1 pick? It says #46 above.
My #1 is tomorrow

:confused: We're going to have the rest of the top 40 tomorrow?

What do you mean "my #1 is tomorrow"?

Or maybe better, what ranking is released tomorrow?
These ranking are a group effort. He is saying that HIS #1 is tomorrow, but the overall average ranking in the countdown will be 31/30.

Thanks.

Someone updates the #4 post whenever more are ready to be revealed?
 

Thanks for doing this.

I'm not clear on the final list though.

Where is the list ranked 1-300 of the books?

Secretly hidden in invisible text.

:confused:

It's a joke. One you'll get as you read the thread.

Ok.

On the upside, fun topic and thanks for doing this @kupcho1
He posts the books each day in white color font. It shows up white regardless of whether the person has dark mode or normal mode on. If you are in dark mode, you won’t notice it. If you are using dark mode, it effectively means his posts show up like this to normal mode readers. (If you are using dark mode, highlight blank space before this sentence.)
 

Thanks for doing this.

I'm not clear on the final list though.

Where is the list ranked 1-300 of the books?

Secretly hidden in invisible text.

:confused:

It's a joke. One you'll get as you read the thread.

Ok.

On the upside, fun topic and thanks for doing this @kupcho1
He posts the books each day in white color font. It shows up white regardless of whether the person has dark mode or normal mode on. If you are in dark mode, you won’t notice it. If you are using dark mode, it effectively means his posts show up like this to normal mode readers. (If you are using dark mode, highlight blank space before this sentence.)

Thank you, GB.
 
He posts the books each day in white color font. It shows up white regardless of whether the person has dark mode or normal mode on. If you are in dark mode, you won’t notice it. If you are using dark mode, it effectively means his posts show up like this to normal mode readers. (If you are using dark mode, highlight blank space before this sentence.)
I've got old, crappy eyes so I use dark mode. Apparently when I create tables (using the table function as trying to cut/paste from Excel no longer works) the font is unreadable for those brave (one might say misguided) souls subjecting their eyes to the light mode.

You listen up, young'ens, your eyes will be crap like mine someday and you're regret using light mode.

Now get off my lawn.
 
#1 pick? It says #46 above.
My #1 is tomorrow

:confused: We're going to have the rest of the top 40 tomorrow?

What do you mean "my #1 is tomorrow"?

Or maybe better, what ranking is released tomorrow?
Man I really should think more before posting.

To be clear, one of the two books that will be revealed tomorrow is my #1 overall pick on my list.
Is it

the Bible? :lmao:
 
He posts the books each day in white color font. It shows up white regardless of whether the person has dark mode or normal mode on. If you are in dark mode, you won’t notice it. If you are using dark mode, it effectively means his posts show up like this to normal mode readers. (If you are using dark mode, highlight blank space before this sentence.)
I've got old, crappy eyes so I use dark mode. Apparently when I create tables (using the table function as trying to cut/paste from Excel no longer works) the font is unreadable for those brave (one might say misguided) souls subjecting their eyes to the light mode.

You listen up, young'ens, your eyes will be crap like mine someday and you're regret using light mode.

Now get off my lawn.

My eyes are older and crapper than yours.
 
He posts the books each day in white color font. It shows up white regardless of whether the person has dark mode or normal mode on. If you are in dark mode, you won’t notice it. If you are using dark mode, it effectively means his posts show up like this to normal mode readers. (If you are using dark mode, highlight blank space before this sentence.)
I've got old, crappy eyes so I use dark mode. Apparently when I create tables (using the table function as trying to cut/paste from Excel no longer works) the font is unreadable for those brave (one might say misguided) souls subjecting their eyes to the light mode.

You listen up, young'ens, your eyes will be crap like mine someday and you're regret using light mode.

Now get off my lawn.

My eyes are older and crapper than yours.
Bet?
 
He posts the books each day in white color font. It shows up white regardless of whether the person has dark mode or normal mode on. If you are in dark mode, you won’t notice it. If you are using dark mode, it effectively means his posts show up like this to normal mode readers. (If you are using dark mode, highlight blank space before this sentence.)
I've got old, crappy eyes so I use dark mode. Apparently when I create tables (using the table function as trying to cut/paste from Excel no longer works) the font is unreadable for those brave (one might say misguided) souls subjecting their eyes to the light mode.

You listen up, young'ens, your eyes will be crap like mine someday and you're regret using light mode.

Now get off my lawn.
That is fine, but if, after you do that, you select the text and click on the pencil-eraser shaped object in the top left of the formatting toolbar, it removes color formatting and resets it to default for everyone.

Image
 
He posts the books each day in white color font. It shows up white regardless of whether the person has dark mode or normal mode on. If you are in dark mode, you won’t notice it. If you are using dark mode, it effectively means his posts show up like this to normal mode readers. (If you are using dark mode, highlight blank space before this sentence.)
I've got old, crappy eyes so I use dark mode. Apparently when I create tables (using the table function as trying to cut/paste from Excel no longer works) the font is unreadable for those brave (one might say misguided) souls subjecting their eyes to the light mode.

You listen up, young'ens, your eyes will be crap like mine someday and you're regret using light mode.

Now get off my lawn.
That is fine, but if, after you do that, you select the text and click on the pencil-eraser shaped object in the top left of the formatting toolbar, it removes color formatting and resets it to default for everyone.

Image
I did this for the most recent post containing today's table.
Let me know if it worked.
 
He posts the books each day in white color font. It shows up white regardless of whether the person has dark mode or normal mode on. If you are in dark mode, you won’t notice it. If you are using dark mode, it effectively means his posts show up like this to normal mode readers. (If you are using dark mode, highlight blank space before this sentence.)
I've got old, crappy eyes so I use dark mode. Apparently when I create tables (using the table function as trying to cut/paste from Excel no longer works) the font is unreadable for those brave (one might say misguided) souls subjecting their eyes to the light mode.

You listen up, young'ens, your eyes will be crap like mine someday and you're regret using light mode.

Now get off my lawn.
That is fine, but if, after you do that, you select the text and click on the pencil-eraser shaped object in the top left of the formatting toolbar, it removes color formatting and resets it to default for everyone.

Image
I did this for the most recent post containing today's table.
Let me know if it worked.
It did. Today’s looks good to me now.
 
Not to turn this into a how to thread, but without a test forum* what choice do I have?

@kupcho1 I'm on a PC. How do I take a table from Excel and get it into this forum with the proper formatting like you have at the top of your update posts? I tried 3 times in the conclave tab with data from excel and just gave up. I ended up pasting as plain text and it looks like crap. TIA, will answer yours, gll peas

*:tfp:
 
Not to turn this into a how to thread, but without a test forum* what choice do I have?

@kupcho1 I'm on a PC. How do I take a table from Excel and get it into this forum with the proper formatting like you have at the top of your update posts? I tried 3 times in the conclave tab with data from excel and just gave up. I ended up pasting as plain text and it looks like crap. TIA, will answer yours, gll peas

*:tfp:
I couldn't get it to work either. I'm not importing directly from Excel. I'm using the table function in the dialog box (top of this entry from, it's a 2x2 box to the right of the quotation marks) and typing everything by hand (which is why errors turn up like yesterday's ranking mislabelling).
 
37. Dracula by Bram Stoker
chaos34: #39

We seem to have passed this without any commentary. For whatever reason I've never read it. Talk to me.
I don't think i have either. I almost picked up a cool looking illustrated copy the other day at the used store, but wasn't 100% sure it would be in someone's top 5.

Well fine. I figured the guy who ranked it #2 would do it better justice than me, but here goes. Have you heard of Dracula? If not he's the original vampire who shaped 120 years of vampire mythology. It's a legendary gothic horror story. A British attorney goes to Romania to expedite a London real estate purchase for a noble Transylvanian Count. Things get weird and he flees back to England pursued by the Count. Things get weirder there. To say much more than that would be unfortunate spoilers if somehow you don't know the story, and I hope you don't because I hope somehow you get to enjoy a fresh read of the plot. That would be cool.

Caveat. Another epistolary novel that slows the pace. It isn't Les Mis slow, but it bogs down if you're anticipating a thrill ride horror story. The journal entries and letters add both intimacy and suspense for me. Stoker is clever though and drives the story through news clippings once things get weird in London. Great stuff. We're introduced to Van Helsing, a man of science forced to explore things he rejects - pseudoscience, superstition and folklore. Also, it's kinda sexy and totally classic.
Apologies for not being very available lately, though I agree with and echo what Chaos wrote. I love the style of writing here; just the right balance of action and build to sustain the right level of eeriness, plus a very unique presentation through journal entries, something that was emulated in the otherwise extremely different The Color Purple. Funny that while it is not essential to the novel, if one researches the real life Vlad Dracula, it makes the story all the creepier. Props to Bram Stoker for basing the main character off him.
 
The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro, my #46 ranked book is actually the second from Ishiguro on my list and the lower ranked of the two. It's still a hell of a book. It is told in narrative form by Stevens, a butler for Lord Darlington. The flashbacks are to the 1920s and 1930s and Darlington is revealed to be a Nazi sympathizer. Stevens devotes his entire life "in service" and although it becomes clear he is in love with the housekeeper. Given his complete dedication to his craft, he didn't act on it.

ilov80s is right in that there is a lot of repressed emotion in the book, but that's pretty consistent with the English, right? Throw in stuffy butler and it increases accordingly.

The Remains of the Day won the Booker Prize (now Man Booker) in 1989 and Ishiguro won the Nobel prize for literature in 2017.
If you haven't read Ishiguro, this should be the second book of his you read. ;)
 
Where is the list ranked 1-300 of the books?
There's a running list in posts #3 and #4 of this thread (although #4 might be a bit behind; krista4 is on holiday and I wasn't savvy enough to have reserved that spot :D ).
I will also be making the google sheet available at the conclusion of the reveal. It'll have the entire ranked list (i.e., all 832 books), a tab of statistics (e.g., # of books by author) and everyone's submitted list.
Thanks. So the number on the left is the ranking? I thought what was somehow the score or something.

And you're just through #40?

That makes more sense.
Yes it’s the ranking. Everyone participated sent in a list ranking their favorite/best books. Each list could have up to 70 books. Kupcho has some scoring system that I forget but it’s like each book gets 40 points for a number 1 ranking, 32 for a number 2, 28 for a number 3, then around book number 30 and below, each one counts for 1 point. Then he collated all the lists and totaled the scores for each book, which in turn generated the rankings.

Post 4 does get updated as each book or two is revealed, though as kupcho said, it’s a little behind because it’s Krista’s post and she’s traipsing around Europe or something right now. So actually the reveal has now gotten through book 32, which can be seen in Kupchos post toward the top of this page.
 
The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro, my #46 ranked book is actually the second from Ishiguro on my list and the lower ranked of the two. It's still a hell of a book. It is told in narrative form by Stevens, a butler for Lord Darlington. The flashbacks are to the 1920s and 1930s and Darlington is revealed to be a Nazi sympathizer. Stevens devotes his entire life "in service" and although it becomes clear he is in love with the housekeeper. Given his complete dedication to his craft, he didn't act on it.

ilov80s is right in that there is a lot of repressed emotion in the book, but that's pretty consistent with the English, right? Throw in stuffy butler and it increases accordingly.

The Remains of the Day won the Booker Prize (now Man Booker) in 1989 and Ishiguro won the Nobel prize for literature in 2017.
If you haven't read Ishiguro, this should be the second book of his you read. ;)
I had three Ishiguro books in my list. This one was my highest, then Never Let Me Go (which already showed up here, and I think is the one kupcho had higher), and then another. I’m on the introverted side, and the character of Stevens resonated with me. But I love Ishiguro’s writing, and don’t think you can go wrong with any.

As an aside, I do think the movie adaptation with Anthony Hopkins as Stevens and Emma Thompson as the housekeeper was well-done and a pretty good adaptation, which is a rare thing for me to say about books that I greatly enjoy.
 

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