The Flash - new show on CW (1 Viewer)

[Hawks64]

I finally caught up on this. I had never watched this or Arrow so i went back to Season 1 of Arrow and watched them, then alternated Flash and Arrow from season 1/2 and beyond

Love this show, i like arrow but I have come to like this more

i think Zoom looks cool, pretty damn evil

As a comic it bugs me when it's a 180 from the source material. Zoom is a speedster, a completely insane speedster, but one nonetheless.

 

[B-Deep]

I finally caught up on this. I had never watched this or Arrow so i went back to Season 1 of Arrow and watched them, then alternated Flash and Arrow from season 1/2 and beyond

Love this show, i like arrow but I have come to like this more

i think Zoom looks cool, pretty damn evil

As a comic it bugs me when it's a 180 from the source material. Zoom is a speedster, a completely insane speedster, but one nonetheless.

here's where i have an advatage

i am a marvel comic nerd, i know very little about DC

i collected some green arrow at a point where it was a very adult edgy comic. A lot of batman, and that's it

So what i know of DC is limited (much of it from watching teen titans) and thus the differences do not bother me

BUT

zoom is crazy looking, but we do not know he is more than a speedster, and this is Earth 2 zoom, so they could always bring in an earth 1 zoom later who is closer to the real thing

 

[Hawks64]

I finally caught up on this. I had never watched this or Arrow so i went back to Season 1 of Arrow and watched them, then alternated Flash and Arrow from season 1/2 and beyond

Love this show, i like arrow but I have come to like this more

i think Zoom looks cool, pretty damn evil

As a comic it bugs me when it's a 180 from the source material. Zoom is a speedster, a completely insane speedster, but one nonetheless.

here's where i have an advatage

i am a marvel comic nerd, i know very little about DC

i collected some green arrow at a point where it was a very adult edgy comic. A lot of batman, and that's it

So what i know of DC is limited (much of it from watching teen titans) and thus the differences do not bother me

BUT

zoom is crazy looking, but we do not know he is more than a speedster, and this is Earth 2 zoom, so they could always bring in an earth 1 zoom later who is closer to the real thing

Already had an Earth 1 Zoom. FYI Reverse Flash and Zoom are the same thing and have been different people over time just like the Flash has been different people all tied into the Speed Force.

 

[B-Deep]

I finally caught up on this. I had never watched this or Arrow so i went back to Season 1 of Arrow and watched them, then alternated Flash and Arrow from season 1/2 and beyond

Love this show, i like arrow but I have come to like this more

i think Zoom looks cool, pretty damn evil

As a comic it bugs me when it's a 180 from the source material. Zoom is a speedster, a completely insane speedster, but one nonetheless.

here's where i have an advatage

i am a marvel comic nerd, i know very little about DC

i collected some green arrow at a point where it was a very adult edgy comic. A lot of batman, and that's it

So what i know of DC is limited (much of it from watching teen titans) and thus the differences do not bother me

BUT

zoom is crazy looking, but we do not know he is more than a speedster, and this is Earth 2 zoom, so they could always bring in an earth 1 zoom later who is closer to the real thing

Already had an Earth 1 Zoom. FYI Reverse Flash and Zoom are the same thing and have been different people over time just like the Flash has been different people all tied into the Speed Force.

ahhhhh

gotya

well since they used reverse flash not zoom, they could still do a zoom E1 and make him different

i get, though, how differences in the source material can be bothersome

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I finally caught up on this. I had never watched this or Arrow so i went back to Season 1 of Arrow and watched them, then alternated Flash and Arrow from season 1/2 and beyond

Love this show, i like arrow but I have come to like this more

i think Zoom looks cool, pretty damn evil

As a comic it bugs me when it's a 180 from the source material. Zoom is a speedster, a completely insane speedster, but one nonetheless.

here's where i have an advatage

i am a marvel comic nerd, i know very little about DC

i collected some green arrow at a point where it was a very adult edgy comic. A lot of batman, and that's it

So what i know of DC is limited (much of it from watching teen titans) and thus the differences do not bother me

BUT

zoom is crazy looking, but we do not know he is more than a speedster, and this is Earth 2 zoom, so they could always bring in an earth 1 zoom later who is closer to the real thing

Already had an Earth 1 Zoom. FYI Reverse Flash and Zoom are the same thing and have been different people over time just like the Flash has been different people all tied into the Speed Force.

ahhhhh

gotya

well since they used reverse flash not zoom, they could still do a zoom E1 and make him different

i get, though, how differences in the source material can be bothersome

There's Zoom (Hunter Zolomon), Professor Zoom (Thawn), Reverse Flash (Daniel West), Inertia (Thaddeus Thawn), and Speed Demon (Jerry McGee) as possible candidates.

There's also the Black Flash. He's almost like a Grim Reaper for Speedsters; he kills them and takes their speed force. This one is pretty likely IMO.

 

[(HULK)]

Prediction:

Season 3 will have a different speedster as an overarching nemesis.

There won't be a season 4.

 

[James Daulton]

Zoom isn't a speedster? Harrison's speedster alarm went off and Zoom is fast as ####.

I think he's an awesome bad guy.

 

[B-Deep]

Prediction:

Season 3 will have a different speedster as an overarching nemesis.

There won't be a season 4.

prediction

this show and arrow will do well, but when DC will ignore them in their movies, again missing the chance for an over reaching continuity and continuing to piss away their commodities

also

the deadshot who was in arrow is going to be a lot better than will freaking smith

 

[Mad Cow]

Prediction:

Season 3 will have a different speedster as an overarching nemesis.

There won't be a season 4.

prediction

this show and arrow will do well, but when DC will ignore them in their movies, again missing the chance for an over reaching continuity and continuing to piss away their commodities

also

the deadshot who was in arrow is going to be a lot better than will freaking smith

Agreed on all counts. They needed to embrace the success they already had, not reject it and reach for something possibly better. They have great characters now.

 

[(HULK)]

I'm sorry, but I guess I'm the only one who thinks it is repetitive to have an overarching BG who is a speedster story each season?

They should ran with someone other than Zoom for season 2.

 

[B-Deep]

I'm sorry, but I guess I'm the only one who thinks it is repetitive to have an overarching BG who is a speedster story each season?

They should ran with someone other than Zoom for season 2.

I don't think they have to do it every season, i do not think they will

 

[James Daulton]

I'm sorry, but I guess I'm the only one who thinks it is repetitive to have an overarching BG who is a speedster story each season?

They should ran with someone other than Zoom for season 2.

Maybe they're trying to set it up for us that speed is basically the ultimate power. Barry just has to realize his potential.

 

[Hawks64]

I'm sorry, but I guess I'm the only one who thinks it is repetitive to have an overarching BG who is a speedster story each season?

They should ran with someone other than Zoom for season 2.

It's the Flash's version of the Joker, so I expect to see some form of Zoom/Reverse Flash each season.

ETA It's almost like having DareDevil without Kingpin, while he doesn't need to be in each episode his presence can be felt. Which is what I think will happen with the Flash.

 

[Sebowski]

I never read any Flash. Wiki describes Zoom's powers differently.

Spoiler

he resulting explosion destroyed the museum, gave Zolomon the ability to use his legs again and shifted his connection to time – described by Jay Garrick as him being 'derailed' from the timeline by the explosion – thus allowing Zolomon to alter the speed at which he could move in time, giving him the effect of superspeed.

If that is what the show goes with

Spoiler

it sets up a better rivalry. Just straight "he's faster" is boring. Him effecting time around him, but not being fast himself is actually interesting.

 

[Sebowski]

Curious:

Any of you watch this but not watch Arrow?

How committed are you guys to the new Legends of Tomorrow show?

 

[Andrew74]

Curious:

Any of you watch this but not watch Arrow?

How committed are you guys to the new Legends of Tomorrow show?

I saw Flash on Netflix last fall and started watching it. Didn't know it was connected to Arrow when I started. I've never watched Arrow.

 

[MindCrime]

Curious:

Any of you watch this but not watch Arrow?

How committed are you guys to the new Legends of Tomorrow show?

I watch both Flash and arrow, but not super committed to Legends of Tomorrow. I am not a huge fan of most of the previously introduced characters ( Palmer, Sara, Hawkgirl, etc). The only character I really think is intriguing is Cold. He's been on that fence of bad / good for a bit now, has that "evil guy with a conscience " thing working pretty well.

 

[3C's]

Curious:

Any of you watch this but not watch Arrow?

How committed are you guys to the new Legends of Tomorrow show?

Started Flash when it debuted. Had never seen Arrow so I didn't bother to start. Might be throwing in the towel on Flash. Haven't seen Legends and don't plan to unless it's really good.

 

[James Daulton]

Curious:

Any of you watch this but not watch Arrow?

How committed are you guys to the new Legends of Tomorrow show?

I saw Flash on Netflix last fall and started watching it. Didn't know it was connected to Arrow when I started. I've never watched Arrow.

Sara is smoking hot.

 

[Mad Cow]

Been watching both for a little more than a year. I am very guardedly excited about Legends.

 

[Peak]

Been watching both for a little more than a year. I am very guardedly excited about Legends.

+1

 

[Sebowski]

Do you non-Arrow watchers watch Arrow during the crossover stuff?

I totally get just watching Flash since Arrow is brutally long to catch up on from he beginning. It's a good show though. Has it's issues like Flash, but I love what they're doing with Oliver Queen. I think they also do a better job with the villains than Flash does. That said, if I had to pick one to watch it would probably be Flash.

 

[FUBAR]

Do you non-Arrow watchers watch Arrow during the crossover stuff?

I totally get just watching Flash since Arrow is brutally long to catch up on from he beginning. It's a good show though. Has it's issues like Flash, but I love what they're doing with Oliver Queen. I think they also do a better job with the villains than Flash does. That said, if I had to pick one to watch it would probably be Flash.

The cross-over stuff annoys me because I don't watch or record Arrow. so when there's a cross-over I either have to record something I'd not otherwise watch. I do think Arrow could be a good show but there are too many shows I enjoy to add another right now.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Do you non-Arrow watchers watch Arrow during the crossover stuff?

I totally get just watching Flash since Arrow is brutally long to catch up on from he beginning. It's a good show though. Has it's issues like Flash, but I love what they're doing with Oliver Queen. I think they also do a better job with the villains than Flash does. That said, if I had to pick one to watch it would probably be Flash.

The cross-over stuff annoys me because I don't watch or record Arrow. so when there's a cross-over I either have to record something I'd not otherwise watch. I do think Arrow could be a good show but there are too many shows I enjoy to add another right now.

If you download the CW app, you can watch on your tablet. That's what I do since I'll usually watch the next day as I'm on my lunch break.

 

[Rove!]

season 2 hasn't grabbed me like season 1

how many speedsters can you have

- Barry

- HarrisonWells1/Eobard Thawne

- Zoom

- Jay Garrick

plus

-Wally West at some point

-Jesse Quick possibly?

 

[Andrew74]

Do you non-Arrow watchers watch Arrow during the crossover stuff?

I totally get just watching Flash since Arrow is brutally long to catch up on from he beginning. It's a good show though. Has it's issues like Flash, but I love what they're doing with Oliver Queen. I think they also do a better job with the villains than Flash does. That said, if I had to pick one to watch it would probably be Flash.

I just watch the Flash. Honestly I wasn't aware there were crossover episodes on Arrow. I knew Arrow and the hot chick showed up on Flash every so often. I might try to watch Arrow one day when I have time to binge.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Which hot chick from Arrow? There's at least three.

 

[Andrew74]

Which hot chick from Arrow? There's at least three.

The blonde with the glasses.

 

[rick6668]

season 2 hasn't grabbed me like season 1

how many speedsters can you have

- Barry

- HarrisonWells1/Eobard Thawne

- Zoom

- Jay Garrick

plus

-Wally West at some point

-Jesse Quick possibly?

Yeah, I'm still watching, but I agree.

 

[MaxThreshold]

season 2 hasn't grabbed me like season 1

how many speedsters can you have

- Barry

- HarrisonWells1/Eobard Thawne

- Zoom

- Jay Garrick

plus

-Wally West at some point

-Jesse Quick possibly?

Yeah, I'm still watching, but I agree.

I'm starting to get annoyed at all the lovey-dovey nonsense. Is he going to tell her? Is he not? How many times have we seen this?

Also, Wally West blaming his dad (Joe) for not being there seems a bit lame SINCE IT WAS WALLY'S MOTHER WHO DIDN'T TELL JOE HE HAD A SON. Seems like they were reaching for some "missing father" drama and it's just corny.

 

[bcdjr1]

Someone explain this to me - why is it that when a male superhero rescues a female, the super villain assumes it's because he has a thing for the woman? In Dark Knight, Joker assumes that of Rachel when Batman doesn't just let her fall to her death. In Flash, Turtle assumes that when Flash doesn't let Patty get crushed by a chandelier.

These super villains are supposed to be smart. Don't they know that risking their lives to save ordinary people from death when they can is their whole schtick?

 

[Sebowski]

Someone explain this to me - why is it that when a male superhero rescues a female, the super villain assumes it's because he has a thing for the woman? In Dark Knight, Joker assumes that of Rachel when Batman doesn't just let her fall to her death. In Flash, Turtle assumes that when Flash doesn't let Patty get crushed by a chandelier.

These super villains are supposed to be smart. Don't they know that risking their lives to save ordinary people from death when they can is their whole schtick?

But they were right. So maybe they noticed something deeper in the save.

 

[FUBAR]

Someone explain this to me - why is it that when a male superhero rescues a female, the super villain assumes it's because he has a thing for the woman? In Dark Knight, Joker assumes that of Rachel when Batman doesn't just let her fall to her death. In Flash, Turtle assumes that when Flash doesn't let Patty get crushed by a chandelier.

These super villains are supposed to be smart. Don't they know that risking their lives to save ordinary people from death when they can is their whole schtick?

But they were right. So maybe they noticed something deeper in the save.

The funny part is the girls never seem to notice.

 

[bcdjr1]

Someone explain this to me - why is it that when a male superhero rescues a female, the super villain assumes it's because he has a thing for the woman? In Dark Knight, Joker assumes that of Rachel when Batman doesn't just let her fall to her death. In Flash, Turtle assumes that when Flash doesn't let Patty get crushed by a chandelier.

These super villains are supposed to be smart. Don't they know that risking their lives to save ordinary people from death when they can is their whole schtick?

But they were right. So maybe they noticed something deeper in the save.

They were right because lazy writing. The plot needed them to make this connection, so they did. It still doesn't make sense for them to assume that a superhero being a superhero is in love with the person he's saving.

It'd be like on a cop show someone committing a crime where they hacked a computer. The police are looking for a suspect and see a man walking out of a Starbuck's with a laptop, and assume that he's the villain. And then have it turn out to be the villain. It doesn't make sense, but lazy writing will make it happen to be correct.

 

[Rove!]

Someone explain this to me - why is it that when a male superhero rescues a female, the super villain assumes it's because he has a thing for the woman? In Dark Knight, Joker assumes that of Rachel when Batman doesn't just let her fall to her death. In Flash, Turtle assumes that when Flash doesn't let Patty get crushed by a chandelier.

These super villains are supposed to be smart. Don't they know that risking their lives to save ordinary people from death when they can is their whole schtick?

But they were right. So maybe they noticed something deeper in the save.

The funny part is the girls never seem to notice.

In this case, he knew it was a trap, he knew Flash was in on it, and she identified herself as a cop. So he assumes there's a connection that's not random. He was also able to slow things down and see the absolute panic on the Flash's face.

 

[Flash]

Someone explain this to me - why is it that when a male superhero rescues a female, the super villain assumes it's because he has a thing for the woman? In Dark Knight, Joker assumes that of Rachel when Batman doesn't just let her fall to her death. In Flash, Turtle assumes that when Flash doesn't let Patty get crushed by a chandelier.

These super villains are supposed to be smart. Don't they know that risking their lives to save ordinary people from death when they can is their whole schtick?

But they were right. So maybe they noticed something deeper in the save.

The funny part is the girls never seem to notice.

In this case, he knew it was a trap, he knew Flash was in on it, and she identified herself as a cop. So he assumes there's a connection that's not random. He was also able to slow things down and see the absolute panic on the Flash's face.

Don't believe everything you THINK you see.

 

[MindCrime]

Just catching up on the last few episodes. Killer Frost - 

still loving this show, despite some cheesy moments.

 

[Mad Cow]

So nice to have the show back on after a month off.  I think it is the one show on TV that makes it tolerable to run on a dreadmill while watching it.  Looking like it will be a wild end to the season.  So hard to beat the slow build and finale last year.

 

[Mad Cow]

So first of all, you just get back after a few weeks off, and now we are off for another 3 weeks?

Second, wow.  What an episode.  Interesting to see how they use Hartley now.  Really really love this show.

 

[Andrew74]

It's off for 3 weeks?!?!  

It was a good episode.  I finally binge watched Arrow, so now more things make sense.  I am really enjoying these CW shows.

 

[Peak]

I thought after the SuperGirl crossover they said there would be another episode of the Flash next week.  That was to be the one to explain how Flash got to her universe.  Guess not.  The only explanation we had was the Speed Force formula, but nothing about the doo-hickey he wore on SG or what he was trying to accomplish.  I was hoping for at least one more to help tie this together.

Is there a site dedicated to letting us fans know when a new episode is coming?  Something akin to islostarepeat.com?

 

[James Daulton]

So first of all, you just get back after a few weeks off, and now we are off for another 3 weeks?

Second, wow.  What an episode.  Interesting to see how they use Hartley now.  Really really love this show.

The Flash really is a terrific show.  While they do have one-off episodes with some random baddie, those are still fun and the show manages to still spend a lot of episodes on the main antagonist.  And the big bads in this show are interesting, evil, and powerful.

 

[FUBAR]

The Flash really is a terrific show.  While they do have one-off episodes with some random baddie, those are still fun and the show manages to still spend a lot of episodes on the main antagonist.  And the big bads in this show are interesting, evil, and powerful.

it's a good show but with time traveling and alternate earths, it's hard to take anything as true.  Someone dies who they want to bring back?  Just have Barry go back and stop the death.  Want to bring a character back even if only for a show?  Time traveling Barry makes it happen!  Plus there are too many speedsters (maybe one less, but still at least 4 of them).   The character we know turns out to be a bad guy?  Just go to alternate earth and have that one come to our earth and be the person we want him to be. 

 

[James Daulton]

it's a good show but with time traveling and alternate earths, it's hard to take anything as true.  Someone dies who they want to bring back?  Just have Barry go back and stop the death.  Want to bring a character back even if only for a show?  Time traveling Barry makes it happen!  Plus there are too many speedsters (maybe one less, but still at least 4 of them).   The character we know turns out to be a bad guy?  Just go to alternate earth and have that one come to our earth and be the person we want him to be. 

I kind of dig all that about the show.  The Flash in incredibly powerful and just in the infancy of learning to fully use his speed.  So many different combinations are possible with this show.

 

[FUBAR]

I kind of dig all that about the show.  The Flash in incredibly powerful and just in the infancy of learning to fully use his speed.  So many different combinations are possible with this show.

Makes sense, it just requires a different mindset than other shows.  SHIELD isn't much different but done a different way. 

 

[Rove!]

I thought after the SuperGirl crossover they said there would be another episode of the Flash next week.  That was to be the one to explain how Flash got to her universe.  Guess not.  The only explanation we had was the Speed Force formula, but nothing about the doo-hickey he wore on SG or what he was trying to accomplish.  I was hoping for at least one more to help tie this together.

Is there a site dedicated to letting us fans know when a new episode is coming?  Something akin to islostarepeat.com?

That SuperGirl show is pretty terrible if the Flash crossover is any indication

 

[Peak]

That SuperGirl show is pretty terrible if the Flash crossover is any indication

Ya it's not that good.  I've caught a few of them and it's gotten better as of late, but it's rough.  Even with Flash there, it was a pretty meh episode.

 

[Rove!]

Ya it's not that good.  I've caught a few of them and it's gotten better as of late, but it's rough.  Even with Flash there, it was a pretty meh episode.

Spoiler alert

flash and SuperGirl getting whipped by the DC equivalent of Electro and Angar the Screamer and then the get saved by a fireman was kind of lame

end spoiler

 

[James Daulton]

Spoiler alert

flash and SuperGirl getting whipped by the DC equivalent of Electro and Angar the Screamer and then the get saved by a fireman was kind of lame

end spoiler

That's the problem you'll always have with Super people.  They're so overpowered that it's difficult to find villains worthy of them.  So to compensate, they underpower the hero so every villain seems like a threat.  Regardless, she's kind of hot so I still tune in when I'm on the treadmill.

 

[FUBAR]

Ya it's not that good.  I've caught a few of them and it's gotten better as of late, but it's rough.  Even with Flash there, it was a pretty meh episode.

I watched the first few episodes and have the rest recorded but it's way low on my watch list. not horrible but there are many better shows.