Doug B
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The Flash - new show on CW (1 Viewer)
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Sebowski
Footballguy
This is really important. It's what makes me not roll my eyes when he does stupid stuff or makes everything harder on himself, but every once in a while the stupid stuff is just too stupid. Going on a date with Iris in Earth 2, every time he battled with a dude with just a cold gun, and this last episode. Such a bad idea. And then he knows he can't #### with the timeline and so he fights himself? He couldn't of waited a minute for other Flash to win that fight first? Then he tells Ramone about Ronny? That one was more frustrating to watch then fun.
You know the show is based on comic books, right? And that these are the kinds of things that happen all the time in comic books? Few stay dead for long and even fewer forever. And there are 12 versions of everyone.
I love that show. Sure, the effects sometimes aren't that great, but the characters and the actors are pretty good. Melissa Benoist does a great job as Kara/Supergirl.
FUBAR
Footballguy
True, although I don't remember it being this over the top in the 1990-91 show. (This is probably well known but I just noticed that the previous Barry Allen is this show's Henry Allen)
The actress who played Barry's scientist friend in that show has also been in this show as a character with the same name - Amanda Pays playing Dr. Tina McGee. And Mark Hamill played the Trickster in both series as well.
As for why you probably never saw them doing these things in that first Flash show was because it was only on for the one season. And the did have an episode with a Flash clone, IIRC.
Sebowski
Footballguy
What a terrible episode. OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE ZOOM USED MY SPEED FOR EVIL! WTF did you think would happen, Barry, et al? So stupid. So many speeches about not giving in to Zoom and how they will find a way to stop him. Then Barry finally gets faster and gives it up with zero fight. I don't even want to watch next week. Completely ridiculous.
rick6668
Footballguy
Yeah, this pissed me off. I was hoping it was all a ploy. Not sure what to think now.
I think it is a ploy. Wells had to calibrate something in the vile before getting the stuff. Pretty sure that something is there to make Zoom feel like he has all the speed and then will react negatively with him later.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Harrison, Cisco, Barry and Caitlin are all certified geniuses. Yet so far it looks like they just said "go ahead and take the only way we have to stop you, we trust you"
that can't be what really happened.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Man, this show got real dumb real fast. That ridiculous speech by Barry reached Bond villain levels of stupidity.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
This was honestly the first bad episode i can remember. I can let it slide. I'm sure that wells jimmied up the vial zoom took from Barry. At least i hope that's what happened. Also, i get a feeling that wally will be getting his speed because of this soon too.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
This show is corny. Case in point: my 5 and 7 year old kids like this show.
The black chick is hot as hell though.
The black chick is hot as hell though.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Once I knew that this week's episode was going to be one of those tired "de-powered superhero" ones, I just deleted it right off the DVR. Did I miss anything?
James Daulton
Footballguy
This show is so up and down, love the casting, love Zoom, but damn Barry, you just hand over your speed like that? And you freaking monologue to Zoom instead of knocking him the #### out and throwing him in the fance jail? Jeez.
And Wally West's constantly buthurt personality makes me want to rain punches on him.
And Wally West's constantly buthurt personality makes me want to rain punches on him.
Sebowski
Footballguy
The stuff the Zoom was actually good that episode. The show is coming back around.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Wally and Jesse SPEEEEEEEEEED
Harry Manback
Footballguy
It was "JAY"
It's Jay Garrick from Earth-2, IMO. Hunter Zolomon, Earth-2, is Zoom, this is his brother.
I think it's going to be Barry's dad's doppleganger since he mentioned his mothers maiden name was Garrick.
Sebowski
Footballguy
I thought he knocked "Jay" for Barry earlier to try and reveal who Zoom was. If he's still knocking "Jay" then I think you are right on.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Pretty good stuff, looks like a good finale coming up.
Where did Cisco get the doppelganger costumes?
So much for Barry's dad having a connection to the man in the mask...or maybe not? Would've thought Zoom would've recognized him...
Where did Cisco get the doppelganger costumes?
So much for Barry's dad having a connection to the man in the mask...or maybe not? Would've thought Zoom would've recognized him...
Doug B
Footballguy
Calling my shot now:
Zoom will probably get beaten in the Flash finale, but not vanquished. Zoom is going to be around in the beginning of Season 3.
Come fall, we already know there are going to be CW DC property crossovers aplenty. DC's Legends of Tomorrow had their finale last night and they have set up their Season 2 to bring in some heavy artillery that can effectively counter Zoom:
Zoom will probably get beaten in the Flash finale, but not vanquished. Zoom is going to be around in the beginning of Season 3.
Come fall, we already know there are going to be CW DC property crossovers aplenty. DC's Legends of Tomorrow had their finale last night and they have set up their Season 2 to bring in some heavy artillery that can effectively counter Zoom:
At the end of the DC's Legends of Tomorrow finale ... the guy from the other timeship introduced himself as a member of the Justice Society of America. That brings Earth 2 directly into play for the Legends team (it was already part of the extended "Arrowverse" but not directly broached in Legends). As mentioned above, there have already been advertised crossovers between all four of the CW's DC properties (they'll have Supergirl in the fall).
Well, we saw on the last Flash how Zoom escaped at the last second. Should Zoom survive the Flash S2 finale, they may be setting up for a whole mess of heroes from different shows to converge on Zoom & his crew on Earth 2. Mention of the Justice Society is especially interesting, because they have a guy -- Hourman -- whose powers are direct counter to Zoom's.
They could have really interesting storylines on the CW DC shows with Hourman, because he's both been a Justice Society member and an ex-member. Hourman could be a morally ambiguous character, as he can effectively counter both Zoom's and Flash's powers.
Well, we saw on the last Flash how Zoom escaped at the last second. Should Zoom survive the Flash S2 finale, they may be setting up for a whole mess of heroes from different shows to converge on Zoom & his crew on Earth 2. Mention of the Justice Society is especially interesting, because they have a guy -- Hourman -- whose powers are direct counter to Zoom's.
They could have really interesting storylines on the CW DC shows with Hourman, because he's both been a Justice Society member and an ex-member. Hourman could be a morally ambiguous character, as he can effectively counter both Zoom's and Flash's powers.
Doug B
Footballguy
Really hoping, too, that they do something to rehabilitate Jay Garrick's character. Tied in with the spoiler I posted above:
Golden Age Flash -- Jay Garrick -- was also an integral member of the Justice Society of America. So, if the JSA is now part of the Arrowverse via the Legends of Tomorrow, something's gotta give. Man in the Iron Mask in Zoom's prison = the real Jay Garrick?
Master of Past and Present
Footballguy
The resolution between Flash and Zoom was really underwhelming.
Doug B
Footballguy
They should have given Zoom an out so that he could be brought back in future episodes.
Well, Black Flash will probably pop up at some point.
Sebowski
Footballguy
He does have an out. Barry just ####ed the entire timeline up. Everything is available now. Reverse Flash, Eddie, etc...
James Daulton
Footballguy
Why did Barry do that? His mom told him in the speedforce that she was good. I love the show but Barry makes the dumbest decisions. Why didn't he just plow Iris to get rid of his "emptiness." #######.
Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
Yeah, he really is making the worst decisions. If he just didn't stand around again chatting with Zoom he could have just flashed and knocked his father out of the way. Then he decides to change the whole world potentially after admitting he finally has let it go and that his own Mom told him to let it go, and when Iris finally wants to hook up...
No one he talked to in the SpeedForce was the person, they were avatars of the SpeedForce itself.
He did it because he had just come to terms with her death and then had to watch his father be murdered in front of him, too. And once again he couldn't stop it. He snapped.
From a comics perspective, it is the same thing that set off the Flashpoint storyline, only in the comics he didn't realize he'd done it, he just wakes up to an alternate reality with no idea how it came to be. This could be how they bring Supergirl into the same world as Flash, Arrow, and Legends of Tomorrow.
It'll be interesting to see if this has an effect on all the other shows.
James Daulton
Footballguy
I thought he said something like Mom is that you? And she nodded, indicating that she wasn't like the other versions of the speedforce Barry had been talking to, but the Mom. That was why Barry was able to find peace for the 30 minutes or so before Zoom ripped his father's heart out.
Here's the episode on CWTV.com.
At about the 26:30 mark is where the scene with his mother starts. He says "Mom?" She smiles and says "Hi Barry." He says "You're not my mother. Why are you doing this to me?"
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Harry Manback
Footballguy
I thought it was pretty solid.
Sure, Barry made some dumb decisions, but he was 'broken' by Zoom. And, anyways, they needed a way to bring Super Girl into the folder and now they have one.
Sure, Barry made some dumb decisions, but he was 'broken' by Zoom. And, anyways, they needed a way to bring Super Girl into the folder and now they have one.
3C's
Footballguy
My thoughts exactly. I possibly stayed a little longer than I normally would have because of her but the show is on CW, the network who once targeted 18yo females, and it seems like that's who would most like this show.
Sebowski
Footballguy
They aren't good with syncing those timelines. Barry was in the middle of his two speedless episodes when he showed up on Arrow with his speed.
Peak
Footballguy
He also showed up on SG with the Tachyometer thing 2 weeks before it was built on the Flash. But hey! He's a speedster who can defy time! Who needs to explain anything, right?
