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The Great 2020 All Time Movie Draft- The judging is heavily biased against me. It’s a hoax! Fake news. (2 Viewers)

mphtrilogy said:
If you draft a person you don’t get all the movies right? Just people v people, movie v movie right?
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Correct - a movie or actor can only be picked once.  If you pick a person, you get that person (actor, actress, director) but you don't get their films - they will be ranked on their abilities and films though.

 
KarmaPolice said:
Correct.  Someone can draft Vin Diesel and another can draft The Pacifier.   Drafting Vin doesn't lock out his movies for others.  
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Yes.  Although I do think we may need a clarification on one thing from Tim or the group - if I pick a character as Hero/Villian does the actor that portrayed it come off the board?

KarmaPolice said:
So the title says clock starts Monday- can picks start sooner? 
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Yes, you are eligible to pick whenever you are ready and it's your turn.  You are up but not on the clock  :)

 
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AAABatteries said:
Yes.  Although I do think we may need a clarification on one thing from Tim or the group - if I pick a character as Hero/Villian does the actor that portrayed it come off the board?

Yes, you are eligible to pick whenever you are ready and it's your turn.  You are up but not on the clock  :)
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I assumed those were separate too- Ie Adam Sandler and Billy Madison could both be drafted.  

 
To clarify on my question - and I'm potentially spotlighting here but will pick something bad - if I chose Aquaman as my Hero does that mean Jason Momoa is not elligible for Best Actor?

 
AAABatteries said:
To clarify on my question - and I'm potentially spotlighting here but will pick something bad - if I chose Aquaman as my Hero does that mean Jason Momoa is not elligible for Best Actor?
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On that note, do we get all Aquamans, or do we need to specify exactly which one? 

Example- some superheroes have had several actors playing the same character.  I assume we get all of them, right? 

 
<<bad suggestion>>

Edit: Never mind. For the competitive crowd out there, this does provide a heavy disadvantage for going later in the first round. Meh, more picks it is!

 
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AAABatteries said:
To clarify on my question - and I'm potentially spotlighting here but will pick something bad - if I chose Aquaman as my Hero does that mean Jason Momoa is not elligible for Best Actor?
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That’s a tough question to answer. Anyone have any suggestions?

 
1. No more rule changes. 
2. Hero and villain are characters not actors. Choosing a hero doesn’t give you the actor who plays him or vice versa. 
3. No clock until Monday but @KarmaPolice you can make your pick at anytime. 

 
So... supporting actor/actress.  We aren't talking a specific movie/role, right - more of an actor that was mostly in side roles and never the main headliner? 

 
timschochet said:
1. No more rule changes. 
2. Hero and villain are characters not actors. Choosing a hero doesn’t give you the actor who plays him or vice versa. 
3. No clock until Monday but @KarmaPolice you can make your pick at anytime. 
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I think they meant, if they picked Batman, do they have to specify which Batman or do they get every Batman to ever appear on screen?

Sorry I spotlighted there...I think everyone is aware of Batman though

 
Also, not that we are just doing streaming movies, but I thought a good suggestion would be to use a site like justwatch.com and post with your pick if the movie is available on a streaming service.  I am guessing our picks might lengthen some queues, and that might be a good way to highlight movies and have people watch picks.  

 
Ilov80s said:
I think they meant, if they picked Batman, do they have to specify which Batman or do they get every Batman to ever appear on screen?

Sorry I spotlighted there...I think everyone is aware of Batman though
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I assumed yes, it's all of them, and I don't have to draft George Clooney's version of Batman.  I would guess it's up to the judges how to interpret that - if they take off points because there have been bad incarnations of that hero/villain over the years.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
I assumed yes, it's all of them, and I don't have to draft George Clooney's version of Batman.  I would guess it's up to the judges how to interpret that - if they take off points because there have been bad incarnations of that hero/villain over the years.  
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Ok, makes sense. I think we are clear then. I will have to do some brainstorming. Do I just take movies I like or actually plan to try to win the thing? I will say, I won't draft a movie I haven't seen or didn't strongly like just because it would score well or is a good value. 

 
KarmaPolice said:
Also, not that we are just doing streaming movies, but I thought a good suggestion would be to use a site like justwatch.com and post with your pick if the movie is available on a streaming service.  I am guessing our picks might lengthen some queues, and that might be a good way to highlight movies and have people watch picks.  
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Well, I plan to re-enact some of my team's picks. Hope you guys are ready for Moulin Rouge.

 
Ilov80s said:
I will say, I won't draft a movie I haven't seen or didn't strongly like just because it would score well or is a good value. 
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I am competitive, but I plan to do the same.  Not sure what the point of doing a write up or taking a pick is of something you don't like or have a passion for.   But I am fully aware that my movie tastes don't align with many people and that people/movies I love are viewed as overrated by many as well.    

And on that note of annoying fan boys and people claiming somebody might be overrated, I will start this draft off with....

 
I had a movie lined up, but as I stared at that it really didn't make much sense.  There are a couple glaring weak spots for me in the movie categories, but what I would take for those for sure aren't 1.1 pick worthy, IMO.   So that landed me on for me the obvious pick of:

1.01:  STANLEY KUBRICK  (LEGENDARY DIRECTOR)

Now, I am not sure how to talk about directors and actors without spotlighting and talking about their movies and other people in the same category.  I haven't done many of these, so I don't know how cranky people get about this.   I guess the best way that I can put why I took him here and above a few other great directors is although he didn't have as many movies as some that I am sure will be taken soon and might actually get more points, hit batting average is amazing.   Off the top of my head, it could argued that Kubrick easily made a top 10 movie in all these categories:  war, sci-fi, comedy, horror, and anti-war. I don't think you can say that about any other director.  There is no genre he couldn't do at a master level, every movie is meticulously shot, and looks amazing.   Looking at my bluray collection this morning, and there are probably 3-4 directors that dominate those shelves, and the others are in the modern category.  I think I have all but 2 Kubrick movies in there.  

Maybe specifics can be discussed more toward the end or during judging?  

@AAABatteries and @hagmania  are up now.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
So... supporting actor/actress.  We aren't talking a specific movie/role, right - more of an actor that was mostly in side roles and never the main headliner? 
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Yes. 
 

ETA- not never. There might be a starring role or two in their career. But you don’t think of them that way. 

 
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KarmaPolice said:
I had a movie lined up, but as I stared at that it really didn't make much sense.  There are a couple glaring weak spots for me in the movie categories, but what I would take for those for sure aren't 1.1 pick worthy, IMO.   So that landed me on for me the obvious pick of:

1.01:  STANLEY KUBRICK  (LEGENDARY DIRECTOR)

Now, I am not sure how to talk about directors and actors without spotlighting and talking about their movies and other people in the same category.  I haven't done many of these, so I don't know how cranky people get about this.   I guess the best way that I can put why I took him here and above a few other great directors is although he didn't have as many movies as some that I am sure will be taken soon and might actually get more points, hit batting average is amazing.   Off the top of my head, it could argued that Kubrick easily made a top 10 movie in all these categories:  war, sci-fi, comedy, horror, and anti-war. I don't think you can say that about any other director.  There is no genre he couldn't do at a master level, every movie is meticulously shot, and looks amazing.   Looking at my bluray collection this morning, and there are probably 3-4 directors that dominate those shelves, and the others are in the modern category.  I think I have all but 2 Kubrick movies in there.  

Maybe specifics can be discussed more toward the end or during judging?  

@AAABatteries and @hagmania  are up now.  
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Kubrick was my top pick as well.  What I like about him is that his movies were a reflection of his roots as a photographer.  Every one of his films to me looked like a picture.  He reminded us that the word 'movie' is short for 'moving picture', and his attention to that detail also went into the other aspects of his films, so that they were always memorable for how they looked.  To me, the film that does this most for me is The Shining.  I don't like horror movies, but I love watching this for the rich visuals alone.  He even proved he could do it with black and white when he made Paths of Glory. Sorry for spotlighting, but since I didn't get Stanley as my 1st pick, I'm going to say whatever I want.

 
Charlie Steiner said:
Kubrick was my top pick as well.  What I like about him is that his movies were a reflection of his roots as a photographer.  Every one of his films to me looked like a picture.  He reminded us that the word 'movie' is short for 'moving picture', and his attention to that detail also went into the other aspects of his films, so that they were always memorable for how they looked.  To me, the film that does this most for me is The Shining.  I don't like horror movies, but I love watching this for the rich visuals alone.  He even proved he could do it with black and white when he made Paths of Glory. Sorry for spotlighting, but since I didn't get Stanley as my 1st pick, I'm going to say whatever I want.
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Great way to put it and highlight his roots as a photographer.  You probably could freeze on any frame of his movies and it would look fantastic.   I am sure people didn't like the 100 takes it might take to get it to that point, but... 

 
KarmaPolice said:
I am guessing there was a bit of that, and I fully admit that it also makes his movies have a cold distant feel to them as well. 
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Maybe that's why I like them.  I tend to miss things like subtext and hidden meaning, so it makes me feel better if they're too distant for me to see unless it's pointed out to me.

 
KarmaPolice said:
I had a movie lined up, but as I stared at that it really didn't make much sense.  There are a couple glaring weak spots for me in the movie categories, but what I would take for those for sure aren't 1.1 pick worthy, IMO.   So that landed me on for me the obvious pick of:

1.01:  STANLEY KUBRICK  (LEGENDARY DIRECTOR)

Now, I am not sure how to talk about directors and actors without spotlighting and talking about their movies and other people in the same category.  I haven't done many of these, so I don't know how cranky people get about this.   I guess the best way that I can put why I took him here and above a few other great directors is although he didn't have as many movies as some that I am sure will be taken soon and might actually get more points, hit batting average is amazing.   Off the top of my head, it could argued that Kubrick easily made a top 10 movie in all these categories:  war, sci-fi, comedy, horror, and anti-war. I don't think you can say that about any other director.  There is no genre he couldn't do at a master level, every movie is meticulously shot, and looks amazing.   Looking at my bluray collection this morning, and there are probably 3-4 directors that dominate those shelves, and the others are in the modern category.  I think I have all but 2 Kubrick movies in there.  

Maybe specifics can be discussed more toward the end or during judging?  

@AAABatteries and @hagmania  are up now.  
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See I’m glad I changed the rule now, because I wouldn’t want whoever is judging this pick to disregard the awfulness of Eyes Wide Shut. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Not really, if you consider the finished product. But when you listen to some fans citing it as a reason for him being the best, it's a little eye rolling. 
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To me, the only reason I'd care about any distinction is because for the most part of what's been published about Kubrick was his mostly collaborative approach.  That's why I mentioned Shelley Duvall, since he basically pushed her to her breaking point to get the performance from her that he wanted.  Otherwise, from what I've read about his other work, he spent lots of time working with writers and actors to hammer out what he wanted, and while I'm sure there was a lot of disagreements, there are no stories-save the hubbub around who really deserved writing credit for Full Metal Jacket-of untoward behavior, whereas some 'great' directors would have at least a story or two or more of being difficult. Whether that's from an unhealthy attention to detail or not really only matters when it comes to collateral damage, like the aforementioned Shelley Duvall.

 
Charlie Steiner said:
. Whether that's from an unhealthy attention to detail or not really only matters when it comes to collateral damage, like the aforementioned Shelley Duvall.
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And Scatman Crothers. Other directors have been able to extract great performances out of their cast without subjecting them to what Kubrick did.

But whatever, Kubrick is a fine pick for #1.

 
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