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The Lawyer Thread Where We Stop Ruining Other Threads (2 Viewers)
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Zow
Footballguy
I was one of those people. I also wrote plenty about the philosophy and policies surrounding each law.And the sad thing is.... I am absolutely positive some percentage - and not a de minimis percentage - will still write about the crimes of the dead people.
I wish somebody would have shaken the #### out of my first year.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
njherdfan
Footballguy
Assuming, arguendo, that the two dead criminals had a meeting of the minds and made a transfer with valid consideration immediately before their deaths, it is still unlikely that the contract between them would be valid. Allow me to explain why....
Zow
Footballguy
johnnycakes
Footballguy
Whenever I read one of your posts, about half the time I have to go to the effing dictionary.
Zow
Footballguy
Black's or Barron's?Whenever I read one of your posts, about half the time I have to go to the effing dictionary.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
If that sentence were longer, you'd probably understand 3/4 of what I say.Whenever I read one of your posts, about half the time I have to go to the effing dictionary.
johnnycakes
Footballguy
Noah Webster's. I love Henry, I really do.. very smart guy... and from Louisiana, which doesn't hurt... but damn, he uses more $10 words than anyone else on this board. Oh... and, I might add, I know that's just who he is... he's not trying to impress anyone or anything like that. That's why I love him. But still. 明白吗?Zow said:Black's or Barron's?johnnycakes said:Whenever I read one of your posts, about half the time I have to go to the effing dictionary.Henry Ford said:
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Redwes25
Footballguy
Fat and bald is the new look. Trust meHenry Ford said:Go #### yourself.So I ventured into a Men's Warehouse on Black Friday to buy a suit on one of their deals. 149.99 or something. Find one, get fitted, set up the tailoring, etc. Go to pay and it's like $40 more than expected. I politely ask her if the price is right. She sheepishly informs me that she had to get the suit from the "big and tall section" (note: I'm 5'10") and there is an $40 charge for the extra fabric.#### that. Pudgy with thinning hair is the new gladiator armor.I argued a pretty high profile pro bono case today. Getting a bunch of press attention, including Otis looking the part of an out of shape middle aged lawyer in the photos.
At least my hair isn't thinning.
Or at least my new look
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Mostly those who read the FFA.johnnycakes said:And the sad thing is.... I am absolutely positive some percentage - and not a de minimis percentage - will still write about the crimes of the dead people.njherdfan said:
johnnycakes
Footballguy
That might be good schtick, but sadly, I am sure there were a number of very intelligent students who still decided that writing about the crimes of the dead people was absolutely necessary.Mostly those who read the FFA.johnnycakes said:And the sad thing is.... I am absolutely positive some percentage - and not a de minimis percentage - will still write about the crimes of the dead people.njherdfan said:
Instinctive
Footballguy
Exam over. I think it went well. Who the #### knows. Half of it was policy (#SLS) so that might be different from other schools. The professors all act like SLS is different because of a policy focus. I have no idea if that is true.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I just got an email from an old client which attached a petition in my state asking me to oppose the petition.
The petition is an ex parte petition to make a foreign judgment executory in my state with a signed judgment of execution for a judgment from another state worth millions of dollars.
This weekend is going to suck.
The petition is an ex parte petition to make a foreign judgment executory in my state with a signed judgment of execution for a judgment from another state worth millions of dollars.
This weekend is going to suck.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I'm not aware of one.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Anyone (particularly Zow) online today who deals with CPS cases? Or nunc pro tunc orders in general?
Zow
Footballguy
I will be sporadically if you want to toss the issue out it shoot me a pm. Likely gonna be very state specific though.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Instinctive
Footballguy
Two exams down. Only CivPro and Torts left. Feel good about the first two (unnaturally good. Which is scary. Makes me think I missed something)
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I just ####ing gutted a defendant in a deposition. Eviscerated. Established liability for a kid getting raped in foster care.
I'd celebrate, but I am so tired.
Get ready to be tired, Instinctive. Very, very tired.
I'd celebrate, but I am so tired.
Get ready to be tired, Instinctive. Very, very tired.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Good work.
4 finals in the span of 8 days. Torts is about to go down.
I don't have the career behind me to provide the extra exhaustion, but holy #### is this rough. Ready to rage as soon as the final ends. If I were less competitive, I'd just take a P and move on with my life.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
I have a feeling this thread is going to turn into us just telling our one very impressive law student that his pie-in-the-sky ideals are a total crock.
Instinctive, just ignore us and do the following:
1. Do some voluntary work which makes you feel really good about yourself. Do some pro-bono landlord tenant work for the poor or the innocence project or something and believe you are effecting change.
2. Play the law school card up at bars when you're hitting on girls. Heck, create professional looking business cards with your school logos on it to give to chicks.
3. Start an intramural team, bar-night trivia team, or whatever menial hobby you and your law school buddies want to partake in that isn't completely law and name your team "The Tortfeasors". Then be sure to laugh amongst yourselves when the other teams, who are likely demolishing your team at whatever you're doing, look at you oddly because they don't know what a "tortfeasor" is.
4. Use the lame acronyms when referring to your student body (mine was "HUSL" - so much better than "SLS"), join study groups, and bond. Tackle finals' weeks like you're the Denver Broncos gearing up for the Super Bowl. Feel a sense of accomplishment when it's over and you're grabbing beers with your friends.
Do all of the above. Then the day after graduation forget about all of it.
Zow
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
In federal court. Not having fun. Would rather be taking a torts final.
SUE EVERYBODY!
SUE EVERYBODY!
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Zow
Footballguy
So I'm about to do a suppression hearing where I'm claiming the Deputy who arrested my guy unconstitutionally expanded the scope of the initial traffic stop by issuing a warning then essentially hassling my guy until he gave up the drugs.
I know this deputy pretty well as we get along (played some pickup basketball together and stuff). I've had him speak in my class on numerous occasions and have informally discussed his drug interdiction tactics. He's admitted numerous times to using this particular trick to get people he thinks are drug abusers to consent to warrantless searches.
Considering whether it'd be incredibly dirty play on my part to use the informal info in court.
I know this deputy pretty well as we get along (played some pickup basketball together and stuff). I've had him speak in my class on numerous occasions and have informally discussed his drug interdiction tactics. He's admitted numerous times to using this particular trick to get people he thinks are drug abusers to consent to warrantless searches.
Considering whether it'd be incredibly dirty play on my part to use the informal info in court.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Some of the best advice mentors ever gave me. When you have a chance to pee, do it.fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Henry Ford
Footballguy
The exhaustion isn't from the rest of the career, it's from pulling a tiny thread for a year and a half... Slowly, so it doesn't break. Watching the defense unravel, and still focusing and pulling slowly, until you have a full picture of how it was made. Then you help the defense build 18 months of lies upon lies upon B.S. into a huge house of cards standing on one major proposition sitting right in front of you at a deposition. And you don't feel tired until you look opposing counsel in the eye, pull the bottom card, and watch the whole thing fall down. When the work's done, you feel the whole 18 months while OC is begging you to believe him that he didn't know it was a lie that his client was telling.Instinctive said:
krista4
Footballguy
Three times in my career I've worked 51 hours straight, almost on the dot. Those are my longest periods of interrupted work. First time it was in conjunction with an IPO we were working on--I'd say 15-18 lawyers and businesspeople at the financial printer getting it done, back in the days when you actually went to the printer rather than having an online dataroom. Man, I miss the days at the printer--anything you want, they would get you. Lobster, steak, at some point booze would flow, usually there was a masseuse there.
Anyway, at one point 30+ hours in one of the partners and I noticed that a female associate had never left the main conference room, meaning she had not once gone to the bathroom. We kept watch for several more hours, but she never left. About 36 hours in we were both out of the room at the same time and couldn't continue to monitor this phenomenon, so I don't know if she made it the full 51 hours, but still...that's some impressive lawyering right there.
johnnycakes
Footballguy
That wouldn't fly at The Firm where we routinely worked to midnight and had a courier run to Logan Airport for the last FedEx flight to Memphis. Oh yeah... back in the office by 7:00am.Three times in my career I've worked 51 hours straight, almost on the dot. Those are my longest periods of interrupted work. First time it was in conjunction with an IPO we were working on--I'd say 15-18 lawyers and businesspeople at the financial printer getting it done, back in the days when you actually went to the printer rather than having an online dataroom. Man, I miss the days at the printer--anything you want, they would get you. Lobster, steak, at some point booze would flow, usually there was a masseuse there.
Anyway, at one point 30+ hours in one of the partners and I noticed that a female associate had never left the main conference room, meaning she had not once gone to the bathroom. We kept watch for several more hours, but she never left. About 36 hours in we were both out of the room at the same time and couldn't continue to monitor this phenomenon, so I don't know if she made it the full 51 hours, but still...that's some impressive lawyering right there.
Gawain
Footballguy
Protip: There are fewer than 51 hours in a day.That wouldn't fly at The Firm where we routinely worked to midnight and had a courier run to Logan Airport for the last FedEx flight to Memphis. Oh yeah... back in the office by 7:00am.Three times in my career I've worked 51 hours straight, almost on the dot. Those are my longest periods of interrupted work. First time it was in conjunction with an IPO we were working on--I'd say 15-18 lawyers and businesspeople at the financial printer getting it done, back in the days when you actually went to the printer rather than having an online dataroom. Man, I miss the days at the printer--anything you want, they would get you. Lobster, steak, at some point booze would flow, usually there was a masseuse there.
Anyway, at one point 30+ hours in one of the partners and I noticed that a female associate had never left the main conference room, meaning she had not once gone to the bathroom. We kept watch for several more hours, but she never left. About 36 hours in we were both out of the room at the same time and couldn't continue to monitor this phenomenon, so I don't know if she made it the full 51 hours, but still...that's some impressive lawyering right there.
johnnycakes
Footballguy
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?Protip: There are fewer than 51 hours in a day.That wouldn't fly at The Firm where we routinely worked to midnight and had a courier run to Logan Airport for the last FedEx flight to Memphis. Oh yeah... back in the office by 7:00am.Three times in my career I've worked 51 hours straight, almost on the dot. Those are my longest periods of interrupted work. First time it was in conjunction with an IPO we were working on--I'd say 15-18 lawyers and businesspeople at the financial printer getting it done, back in the days when you actually went to the printer rather than having an online dataroom. Man, I miss the days at the printer--anything you want, they would get you. Lobster, steak, at some point booze would flow, usually there was a masseuse there.
Anyway, at one point 30+ hours in one of the partners and I noticed that a female associate had never left the main conference room, meaning she had not once gone to the bathroom. We kept watch for several more hours, but she never left. About 36 hours in we were both out of the room at the same time and couldn't continue to monitor this phenomenon, so I don't know if she made it the full 51 hours, but still...that's some impressive lawyering right there.
krista4
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not sure I get your post johnnycakes.Protip: There are fewer than 51 hours in a day.That wouldn't fly at The Firm where we routinely worked to midnight and had a courier run to Logan Airport for the last FedEx flight to Memphis. Oh yeah... back in the office by 7:00am.Three times in my career I've worked 51 hours straight, almost on the dot. Those are my longest periods of interrupted work. First time it was in conjunction with an IPO we were working on--I'd say 15-18 lawyers and businesspeople at the financial printer getting it done, back in the days when you actually went to the printer rather than having an online dataroom. Man, I miss the days at the printer--anything you want, they would get you. Lobster, steak, at some point booze would flow, usually there was a masseuse there.
Anyway, at one point 30+ hours in one of the partners and I noticed that a female associate had never left the main conference room, meaning she had not once gone to the bathroom. We kept watch for several more hours, but she never left. About 36 hours in we were both out of the room at the same time and couldn't continue to monitor this phenomenon, so I don't know if she made it the full 51 hours, but still...that's some impressive lawyering right there.
johnnycakes
Footballguy
OK, as I was trying to explain, I realized the error of my post. Henry is talking about working 51 hours straight. Granted that is impressive. We routinely worked 18 hours a day on end for months at a time... big difference.Yeah, I'm not sure I get your post johnnycakes.Protip: There are fewer than 51 hours in a day.That wouldn't fly at The Firm where we routinely worked to midnight and had a courier run to Logan Airport for the last FedEx flight to Memphis. Oh yeah... back in the office by 7:00am.Three times in my career I've worked 51 hours straight, almost on the dot. Those are my longest periods of interrupted work. First time it was in conjunction with an IPO we were working on--I'd say 15-18 lawyers and businesspeople at the financial printer getting it done, back in the days when you actually went to the printer rather than having an online dataroom. Man, I miss the days at the printer--anything you want, they would get you. Lobster, steak, at some point booze would flow, usually there was a masseuse there.
Anyway, at one point 30+ hours in one of the partners and I noticed that a female associate had never left the main conference room, meaning she had not once gone to the bathroom. We kept watch for several more hours, but she never left. About 36 hours in we were both out of the room at the same time and couldn't continue to monitor this phenomenon, so I don't know if she made it the full 51 hours, but still...that's some impressive lawyering right there.
krista4
Footballguy
Actually it was me that was talking about 51 hours straight, not Henry.OK, as I was trying to explain, I realized the error of my post. Henry is talking about working 51 hours straight. Granted that is impressive. We routinely worked 18 hours a day on end for months at a time... big difference.Yeah, I'm not sure I get your post johnnycakes.Protip: There are fewer than 51 hours in a day.That wouldn't fly at The Firm where we routinely worked to midnight and had a courier run to Logan Airport for the last FedEx flight to Memphis. Oh yeah... back in the office by 7:00am.Three times in my career I've worked 51 hours straight, almost on the dot. Those are my longest periods of interrupted work. First time it was in conjunction with an IPO we were working on--I'd say 15-18 lawyers and businesspeople at the financial printer getting it done, back in the days when you actually went to the printer rather than having an online dataroom. Man, I miss the days at the printer--anything you want, they would get you. Lobster, steak, at some point booze would flow, usually there was a masseuse there.
Anyway, at one point 30+ hours in one of the partners and I noticed that a female associate had never left the main conference room, meaning she had not once gone to the bathroom. We kept watch for several more hours, but she never left. About 36 hours in we were both out of the room at the same time and couldn't continue to monitor this phenomenon, so I don't know if she made it the full 51 hours, but still...that's some impressive lawyering right there.
I really don't want to play "whose is bigger" with you, as my point was only about how impressed I was at someone who didn't pee for so long, when I on the other hand seem to go every 1/2 hour. However, before going in-house I spent eight years at two of the 10 largest firms in the world, including the one that was at the time the largest (and probably the most notorious as a sweatshop). I had many months of over 300 hours in billing, including 360 in one month. I kind of know what constant 18-hour days are like, k?
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Footballguy
dont ever do this.Zow said:Henry Ford said:
I have a feeling this thread is going to turn into us just telling our one very impressive law student that his pie-in-the-sky ideals are a total crock.
Instinctive, just ignore us and do the following:
1. Do some voluntary work which makes you feel really good about yourself. Do some pro-bono landlord tenant work for the poor or the innocence project or something and believe you are effecting change.
2. Play the law school card up at bars when you're hitting on girls. Heck, create professional looking business cards with your school logos on it to give to chicks.
3. Start an intramural team, bar-night trivia team, or whatever menial hobby you and your law school buddies want to partake in that isn't completely law and name your team "The Tortfeasors". Then be sure to laugh amongst yourselves when the other teams, who are likely demolishing your team at whatever you're doing, look at you oddly because they don't know what a "tortfeasor" is.
4. Use the lame acronyms when referring to your student body (mine was "HUSL" - so much better than "SLS"), join study groups, and bond. Tackle finals' weeks like you're the Denver Broncos gearing up for the Super Bowl. Feel a sense of accomplishment when it's over and you're grabbing beers with your friends.
Do all of the above. Then the day after graduation forget about all of it.
Gawain
Footballguy
At least you had a unique acronym. There are two schools known as CLS in New York. The one everyone knows and the one I went to.Zow said:
I found working with Legal Aid in housing to be the first of many experiences that convinced me law wasn't my preferred field.
Ungrateful folks who do bad things and demand more.
ETA: Just like paying clients.
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krista4
Footballguy
dont ever do this.Zow said:Henry Ford said:
I have a feeling this thread is going to turn into us just telling our one very impressive law student that his pie-in-the-sky ideals are a total crock.
Instinctive, just ignore us and do the following:
1. Do some voluntary work which makes you feel really good about yourself. Do some pro-bono landlord tenant work for the poor or the innocence project or something and believe you are effecting change.
2. Play the law school card up at bars when you're hitting on girls. Heck, create professional looking business cards with your school logos on it to give to chicks.
3. Start an intramural team, bar-night trivia team, or whatever menial hobby you and your law school buddies want to partake in that isn't completely law and name your team "The Tortfeasors". Then be sure to laugh amongst yourselves when the other teams, who are likely demolishing your team at whatever you're doing, look at you oddly because they don't know what a "tortfeasor" is.
4. Use the lame acronyms when referring to your student body (mine was "HUSL" - so much better than "SLS"), join study groups, and bond. Tackle finals' weeks like you're the Denver Broncos gearing up for the Super Bowl. Feel a sense of accomplishment when it's over and you're grabbing beers with your friends.
Do all of the above. Then the day after graduation forget about all of it.
Yeah...please don't, but if you do, please take video of the experience and post it here.
