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The Official Kicker (K) Thread (12 Viewers)

I was really hoping Carolina would sign the East Carolina kid that played with the ravens all preseason, but I overlooked the Zane Gonzalez availability. He played at Clemson just down the road from Charlotte, and he’s had some great seasons. 

If he fails, I’m guessing they sign someone we’ve never heard of. 

 
I typically look for kickers whose offenses offer a lot of attempts. It’s kinda like volume for RBs, except the talent pool is much broader - most of these kickers can do the job. You’re always going to have the top guys on the Chiefs, etc, but you can stream K just like streaming D. It’s much more random early in the season, however, until we start to get more data on these offenses. I also look for a kicker whose team is playing a game they should dominate. Trailing teams don’t often kick FGs in the second half and closing stretch of the game.

Dallas offered Zeurlein 5 FGAs in a game where they struggled to run the ball with any consistency. He missed a few of them, but he missed a lot of camp too and usually these veteran guys bounce back. He’s a sneaky play this week IMO. 

For the second reason I mentioned above, go back to the well with McManus. Jacksonville looks like the worst team in the league by a good stretch, and the Denver D looks pretty solid. I’d expect multiple FGs and multiple XPs from McManus this week. 

I’m intrigued by McPherson who clearly has plenty of leg, and the Bears aren’t a very scary matchup. He’s the upside pick as a guy you could roster the rest of the way if the Cinci offense finds a little more consistency. 

Also still willing to roll out Bass and Gay as both offenses moved the ball and offered opportunities, and both are in games their teams should control this week. 

 
JFS171 said:
I typically look for kickers whose offenses offer a lot of attempts. It’s kinda like volume for RBs, except the talent pool is much broader - most of these kickers can do the job. You’re always going to have the top guys on the Chiefs, etc, but you can stream K just like streaming D. It’s much more random early in the season, however, until we start to get more data on these offenses.
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I like this strategy and try to use it in season if I have to, but I prefer to try to find a guy that is semi-consistent so I can set/forget. Kicker points are so random that I find streaming doesn't usually offer much advantage (or at least how I've been doing it) and the consistent guys change up fairly regularly year to year, so early in the season if you're lucky you can get a top guy off the wire. 

I'd be curious who people think might be on the wire with the best chance to be top 5 this year and what your strategy for picking them is.

My usual guidelines are basically try to get guys from high scoring offenses that have the highest number of either dome or warm weather venues for the season. Seems to make sense, but I can't say it's ever really been successful at finding me a top guy.

Right now I'm trotting Succop out there who is the posterchild for high scoring offense in a warm weather venue. The problem is... TB always gets into the end zone. If they don't score 42+ pts you're looking at a mediocre to below average score. Week 1 was a perfect example... 4XP, 1FG for 36yds. I'll take that 7.6pts if I can get it every single week, but more often than not that line is going to be 4pts or 5pts... and there isn't a ton of upside as TB12 isn't going to get blanked on endzone tries 3-4 times in a game. He was 17th in ppg in 2020 though TB was 3rd in total regular points scored. Most rankings sites have Succop in the top5 or at least 8, but he wasn't even close to that last year on a Super Bowl winning team.

Of the likely-on-the-wire guys, these seem interesting to me:

>McPherson (CIN): + youth, leg, potentially high scoring O   - youth, outdoor stadium

>Gould (SFO): +vet, high scoring O   - 30/32 ppg in 2020, not going to hit the long ones, outdoor stadium

>Prater (ARI): +vet, leg, high scoring O, indoor stadium    - missed 7 FG in 2020 (3rd worst)

>McManus (DEN): +vet, more scoring opps with Teddy, leg, mile high stadium? 11th ppg 2020  - outdoor stadium, questionable Offense

Others: Nick Folk, Dustin Hopkins (on a tear 2020 weeks 9-14), Tristan Vizcaino, ???

Anyways, I'm curious what other people are thinking about potential set and forget guys on the wire... and whether anyone thinks Succop is one of those guys.

 
one factor that held down the Bengals kicker numbers in recent years was the reluctance to put Rotund Randy out there for any kick at all over 50 yards.  It really hampered things.  Now they have a guy that they will happily put out there to try a 60-yarder at the end of a half.  The team will go for it on 4th and short A LOT this year which may vex owners a little but they will not shy away from using him at all.  Learned their lesson afrer idiotically cutting Elliot after drafting him in round 5 three years ago

-QG

 
QuizGuy66 said:
one factor that held down the Bengals kicker numbers in recent years was the reluctance to put Rotund Randy out there for any kick at all over 50 yards.  It really hampered things.  Now they have a guy that they will happily put out there to try a 60-yarder at the end of a half.  The team will go for it on 4th and short A LOT this year which may vex owners a little but they will not shy away from using him at all.  Learned their lesson after idiotically cutting Elliot after drafting him in round 5 three years ago

-QG
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Do you like him better than Succop?

Randy would've just broken the top 12 last year if he stayed on pace for the final 3 games of the season. If that's sort've the baseline, and the attempts go up based on Burrow being back and what you said above... seems like a pretty good gamble.

 
QuizGuy66 said:
one factor that held down the Bengals kicker numbers in recent years was the reluctance to put Rotund Randy out there for any kick at all over 50 yards.  It really hampered things.  Now they have a guy that they will happily put out there to try a 60-yarder at the end of a half.  The team will go for it on 4th and short A LOT this year which may vex owners a little but they will not shy away from using him at all.  Learned their lesson afrer idiotically cutting Elliot after drafting him in round 5 three years ago

-QG
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so, I'm currently rolling our Crosby in my 1 league and McPherson is still out there; are we liking McPherson over Crosby?

Also, someone inexplicably dropped Butker in another league. I currently have Gould, but is Butker a no-brainer add or just stick with Gould?

 
4th&inches said:
so, I'm currently rolling our Crosby in my 1 league and McPherson is still out there; are we liking McPherson over Crosby?

Also, someone inexplicably dropped Butker in another league. I currently have Gould, but is Butker a no-brainer add or just stick with Gould?
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Butker over Gould in a heartbeat. Yes some weeks it may be all PAT's but he has a high floor and is a better kicker. Gould missed a ton of kicks last season and already missed one this year. The 49ers are not going to score a ton of points often like in week 1 vs Detroit. In fact, I peg them as a 6 win team this year in a very tough division. IMO, they will be playing from behind a lot which is not good for kickers. Their D which was suppose to be good already looks very suspect because of injuries and lack of depth in the secondary.

And yes Mcpherson over Crosby. Maybe not this week because GB should scores a lot vs Detroit but over the course of the season, McPherson. 

 
Streaming kickers is a tough way to make a living, way more variables than streaming defenses or even QBs. Keep looking for the right guy and then set and forget.

 
I'm a Bengals homer but I was totally locked in on him - Butker went comically early so he wasn't in the convo for me but my draft board was probably something like Butker and then the master Justin Tucker and then McPherson - but I knew I was gonna be able to get him with my last pick.

My own opinion is I think he's in that set and forget category of which there are many.

-QG

 
QuizGuy66 said:
I'm a Bengals homer but I was totally locked in on him - Butker went comically early so he wasn't in the convo for me but my draft board was probably something like Butker and then the master Justin Tucker and then McPherson - but I knew I was gonna be able to get him with my last pick.

My own opinion is I think he's in that set and forget category of which there are many.

-QG
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I dropped Succop for McPherson. I drafted Succop thinking that getting Brady's kicker was a good thing. And it is.....for extra points, not field goals. 

 
Anyone roll Gano last night? 
 

5 FGs, 2 from 50+. And 2 EP to add on top.
 

Beside the fact that he scored a lot (that won’t happen every week).

I was astonished at how effortless his kicks looked. And they were all nailed right down the middle with ease.

Giant offense looked good enough to get him in range. And the coaches obviously trust him. And Jason Garrett us a fool that will stall drives with bad playcalling.

Might he a sneaky pick some weeks for streamers.

 
VikingFrog said:
Anyone roll Gano last night? 
 

5 FGs, 2 from 50+. And 2 EP to add on top.
 

Beside the fact that he scored a lot (that won’t happen every week).

I was astonished at how effortless his kicks looked. And they were all nailed right down the middle with ease.

Giant offense looked good enough to get him in range. And the coaches obviously trust him. And Jason Garrett us a fool that will stall drives with bad playcalling.

Might he a sneaky pick some weeks for streamers.
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I’m playing the Big Blue homer in my league this week. He started Danny Dimes & Shep, but dropped Gano for McPherson a few hours before the game.

 
wlwiles said:
I just looked at his ownership and realized that 3 of my opponents this week have Gano, so I'm already in a 22 point hole from a stupid kicker.  Who in the hell has a kicker that scores twenty-freaking-two points?  This game is so dumb sometimes...
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That is beyond rough. I think that has to be the worst Thursday night hole since Thursday night football started. It's different when a stud player has a big game against you on Thursday, but having to look at a 22 point hole from a kicker all the way until Sunday is sickening. McPherson will save you.

 
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Patriots placed K Quinn Nordin on injured reserve with an abdominal injury.

Nordin missed Week 1 and will now miss at least the next three weeks. Nick Folk is on the practice squad and will handle kicking duties moving forward.

Sep 17, 2021, 4:24 PM ET
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Texans promoted Joey Slye from the practice squad.

Slye will be Houston's kicker for at least the next two weeks with Ka'imi Fairbairn on IR. The 25-year-old made all four field goals and had eight touchbacks in his Texans debut last week. 

Sep 18, 2021, 12:26 PM ET
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Oddly, Koo cleared waivers in my main league (defending champ said naw.)

I have Succop and don’t really see a reason to change but what do you guys think?

I’m just thinking about FGA, and if it’s more likely TB will complete drIves VS how often ATL stalls drives.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Oddly, Koo cleared waivers in my main league (defending champ said naw.)

I have Succop and don’t really see a reason to change but what do you guys think?

I’m just thinking about FGA, and if it’s more likely TB will complete drIves VS how often ATL stalls drives.
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You should get on the McPherson train.

 
Patriots signed K Nick Folk.

Folk has kicked for the Patriots over the past two weeks with Quinn Nordin on IR due to an abdominal injury. This signing indicates he will retain his duties as New England's starting kicker in Week 3. Folk has made 33 consecutive field goals dating back to last season.

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter

Sep 21, 2021, 6:06 PM ET
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Liking Prater still in one league.  Still a great offense, but they still stall enough to get him FGs.

Carlson looks like he is set for a good year too.  

Figuring out how long I want to hold Succop

 
McPherson was drafted in my Cincy based leagues (I wish I got him) 

I'm dumping Koo for Carlson. The Falcons are just so frustrating to watch, and usually can't move the ball efficiently...it will probably come back and bite me as Kickers always do.  

 
sho nuff said:
Liking Prater still in one league.  Still a great offense, but they still stall enough to get him FGs.

Carlson looks like he is set for a good year too.  

Figuring out how long I want to hold Succop
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Yeah, I thought about dropping Myers for McPherson, but opted for Prater in that offense and those conditions instead.

 
sho nuff said:
Liking Prater still in one league.  Still a great offense, but they still stall enough to get him FGs.

Carlson looks like he is set for a good year too.  

Figuring out how long I want to hold Succop
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I dropped Succop. I wanted Carlson (#1 K this year, #4 last year) but someone scooped him while debating. I added Folk for now (#2 this year) but I dont know much about McPherson. Might take the gamble.

 
Jason Sanders is a great kicker. He was 8 of 9 from 50+ last year, 80% for his career. His bye is not until week 14, and his chances for a bad weather game are low. However, with the uncertainty on the offensive side of the ball, play him with caution. A good defense bad offense combo can be good for PKs, but the next 2 games, LV and TB, could get ugly early. 

 
Lions placed K Austin Seibert on reserve/COVID list.

If Seibert is fully vaccinated, he can return after testing negative twice in a 48-hour period. If he's not vaccinated, he must go through a 10-day quarantine and likely miss the next two games. Ryan Santoso, who most recently went 2-of-2 with a missed extra-point try in Week 1 with the Panthers, is the next man up on Detroit's depth chart.

SOURCE: Detroit Lions on Twitter

Sep 23, 2021, 12:15 PM ET
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Uncle Leo said:
Gano has made 35 FGs in a row. 7 of those have been from 50+. The dude is automatic.
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He was ### for Carolina, and Marty Hurney’s insistence keeping him on the roster over rookie year Butker is what allowed the Chiefs to poach the latter. 

Of course he’s made 35 straight FGs.

 
Looking at McPherson, Gano, or McManus moving forward. My concern for McPherson is only 3 FGAs so far, and the offense looks so out of sorts. On the plus side, he’s made the kicks. 

McManus and Gano both playing for offenses moving the ball, both their teams having attempted 5 FGs each, though Gano is 2/2 from 50+ while McManus hasn’t attempted one from that distance. The scary thing from Gano is that all five of those came in one week. 

 
Crazy. Two attempts to break the NFL field goal distance record in the same day. First was short and led to a record tying 109 yard TD return. The other bounces off the crossbar and goes thru to beat the record by two full yards. 

 
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