The OUT Due to COVID List: PLAYOFF EDITION (Save your szn thread) (1 Viewer)

[kyoun1e]

This new policy is going to lead to a huge uptick in positive cases starting next week and into the playoffs.  Just as long as they keep testing on sunday evenings then everyone will be back the next week.  Woohooo

Exactly. 

 

[facook]

They need to allow vaccinated asymptomatic players to play.  There is zero evidence they pass the virus on the playing field.

 

[joffer]

They need to allow vaccinated asymptomatic players to play.  There is zero evidence they pass the virus on the playing field.

so there’s evidence that the virus is passed by people that come in close contact, but that somehow doesn’t apply to your magic football team?

 

[facook]

so there’s evidence that the virus is passed by people that come in close contact, but that somehow doesn’t apply to your magic football team?

Tons of cases of teams passing it within themselves. None passing it from team to team within a game. Pro, college, or high school. Prove me wrong. NFL agrees with me obviously. 

 

[ghostguy123]

Tons of cases of teams passing it within themselves. None passing it from team to team within a game. Pro, college, or high school. Prove me wrong. NFL agrees with me obviously. 

Well duh, Covid stops to watch the games.  

Also, the Browns had to play with 20 men down last week because, well, obviously Covid isnt spread during games.

Guessing you probably wont hear too much of guys spreading within games because players who knowingly have Covid arent playing in the games.....

Yikes

 

[JohnnyU]

Tons of cases of teams passing it within themselves. None passing it from team to team within a game. Pro, college, or high school. Prove me wrong. NFL agrees with me obviously. 

This is about $$$$$$$

 

[BobbyLayne]

Anybody we can anticipate will likely come off the COVID list before Sunday?

Sounds like Texans expect Brandin Cooks back and Saints think Taysom Hill will be available.

Carson Wentz is unvaccinated; anyone know if his was a positive test or exposure?

 

[Dacomish]

Anybody we can anticipate will likely come off the COVID list before Sunday?

Sounds like Texans expect Brandin Cooks back and Saints think Taysom Hill will be available.

Carson Wentz is unvaccinated; anyone know if his was a positive test or exposure?

If Ljax isn't practicing I sure hope Huntley does..  

 

[Quakertown Tom]

Tons of cases of teams passing it within themselves. None passing it from team to team within a game. Pro, college, or high school. Prove me wrong. NFL agrees with me obviously. 

Why aren't we all just wearing football pads then? You may have just unknowingly solved this pandemic!

 

[BobbyLayne]

If Ljax isn't practicing I sure hope Huntley does..  

I have Huntley on IR. Think Harbough said something about wanting to see LJax practice this week but not sure about the context, haven't watched the presser.

 

[facook]

Well duh, Covid stops to watch the games.  

Also, the Browns had to play with 20 men down last week because, well, obviously Covid isnt spread during games.

Guessing you probably wont hear too much of guys spreading within games because players who knowingly have Covid arent playing in the games.....

Yikes

Uh huh. Sure.

Now how about the ones that played and didn’t know they had Covid?

 

[facook]

Why aren't we all just wearing football pads then? You may have just unknowingly solved this pandemic!

Oh man you are funny. Hahaha. Prove me wrong. One case, one example. You know, some scientific evidence?

 

[Quakertown Tom]

Oh man you are funny. Hahaha. Prove me wrong. One case, one example. You know, some scientific evidence?

You sound really bright.  Hold on, I'll check game film.  Perhaps I'll see the virus leave a players mouth and enter another guy's.  D'oh

 

[apalmer]

Oh man you are funny. Hahaha. Prove me wrong. One case, one example. You know, some scientific evidence?

They should also allow defensive players to use swords to stop running backs. Give me one case, one example, to show that would be dangerous.

 

[Gilroy34]

They should also allow defensive players to use swords to stop running backs. Give me one case, one example, to show that would be dangerous.

You are really bad at analogies

 

[Quakertown Tom]

You are really bad at analogies

How's this one? No one has ever gotten covid at a Starbucks. Prove me wrong

 

[BobbyLayne]

They should also allow defensive players to use swords to stop running backs. Give me one case, one example, to show that would be dangerous.

Which would then lead to this sort of exchange between Ekeler and Watt:

WATT: You are indeed brave, Sir RB, but the fight is mine. 

EKELER: Oh, had enough, eh? 

WATT: Look, you stupid *******. You've got no arms left. 

EKELER: Yes, I have. 

WATT: Look! 

EKELER: Just a flesh wound. 

[kick]

WATT: Look, stop that. 

EKELER: Chicken! 

[kick]

Chickennn! 

WATT: Look, I'll have your leg. 

[kick]

EKELER: Right! 

[whop]

[WATT chops EKELER‘s right leg off]

EKELER: Right. I'll do you for that! 

WATT: You'll what? 

EKELER: Come here! 

WATT: What are you going to do, bleed on me? 

EKELER: I'm invincible! 

WATT: You're a looney. 

EKELER: The RB always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then. 

[whop]

[WATT chops EKELER‘s last leg off]

EKELER: Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.

________________

Jousting poles seems more reasonable.

Who doesn’t want to see Derek Henry’s stiff arm versus a LB with a joust?

 

[ghostguy123]

Uh huh. Sure.

Now how about the ones that played and didn’t know they had Covid?

I guess you are right.  A guy with Covid grunting all over other people probably doesnt spread any germs whatsoever.  

Yikes.  

You do realize (well no you must not, obviously) that there is an incubation period, and it's basically impossible to pinpoint the exact moment someone got Covid.  However certain interactions are more likely to allow Covid to spread.  Which interactions??  Perhaps grabbing, tackling, breathing, and grunting all over each other.  All of which with no hand hygiene or masks.  

Let's just have everyone play football every day and end this pandemic.

 

[Quakertown Tom]

I guess you are right.  A guy with Covid grunting all over other people probably doesnt spread any germs whatsoever.  

Yikes.  

You do realize (well no you must not, obviously) that there is an incubation period, and it's basically impossible to pinpoint the exact moment someone got Covid.  However certain interactions are more likely to allow Covid to spread.  Which interactions??  Perhaps grabbing, tackling, breathing, and grunting all over each other.  All of which with no hand hygiene or masks.  

Let's just have everyone play football every day and end this pandemic.

If you're ever standing by someone in the checkout line and they're sniffling and coughing and you suspect they might have covid, just tackle them. It can't transfer that way. 

 

[facook]

You sound really bright.  Hold on, I'll check game film.  Perhaps I'll see the virus leave a players mouth and enter another guy's.  D'oh

If you're ever standing by someone in the checkout line and they're sniffling and coughing and you suspect they might have covid, just tackle them. It can't transfer that way. 

Thanks I am.  Bright enough to know what “asymptomatic and vaccinated” means.  Bright enough to be on the same side as the NFL AND NFLPA, coincidently. So we will just be over here being right, and you can stay over there with your buddies being condescending and wrong.

 

[facook]

I guess you are right.  A guy with Covid grunting all over other people probably doesnt spread any germs whatsoever.  

Yikes.  

You do realize (well no you must not, obviously) that there is an incubation period, and it's basically impossible to pinpoint the exact moment someone got Covid.  However certain interactions are more likely to allow Covid to spread.  Which interactions??  Perhaps grabbing, tackling, breathing, and grunting all over each other.  All of which with no hand hygiene or masks.  

Let's just have everyone play football every day and end this pandemic.

Of course they do. But if they are vaccinated and asymptomatic it doesn’t, and hasn’t, mattered. Which was my point all along and now the both the NFL and their PA agree with me, regardless of their motivations.

 

[Bayhawks]

Of course they do. But if they are vaccinated and asymptomatic it doesn’t, and hasn’t, mattered. Which was my point all along and now the both the NFL and their PA agree with me, regardless of their motivations.

You are stating this as a fact; it is not.

There have been no empirical studies that have proven that COVID is transferred on the playing field.  To my knowledge, there are also no empirical studies that have proven that COVID is not transferred on the playing field.  The only studies I have read have suggested that on-field interactions shouldn't be long enough to spread the disease.  However, since these studies were conducted with more rigorous testing & quarantine procedures that are currently in place, that changes things.  If players who are positive aren't allowed to play, a study of players who tested negative playing football, and not infecting each other, isn't very illustrative.

You MAY be right, but acting like you ABSOLUTELY are, while others who disagree with you are ABSOLUTELY wrong, is an error on your part.

Also, let's not pretend that the NFL and the PA are making the changes that they are making for any reason other than money.  The NFL doesn't want to postpone/cancel games and lose revenue, and the PA doesn't want games cancelled b/c those players won't get paid.

 

[facook]

You are stating this as a fact; it is not.

There have been no empirical studies that have proven that COVID is transferred on the playing field.  To my knowledge, there are also no empirical studies that have proven that COVID is not transferred on the playing field.  The only studies I have read have suggested that on-field interactions shouldn't be long enough to spread the disease.  However, since these studies were conducted with more rigorous testing & quarantine procedures that are currently in place, that changes things.  If players who are positive aren't allowed to play, a study of players who tested negative playing football, and not infecting each other, isn't very illustrative.

You MAY be right, but acting like you ABSOLUTELY are, while others who disagree with you are ABSOLUTELY wrong, is an error on your part.

Also, let's not pretend that the NFL and the PA are making the changes that they are making for any reason other than money.  The NFL doesn't want to postpone/cancel games and lose revenue, and the PA doesn't want games cancelled b/c those players won't get paid.

You're right, it's what I believe.  And all of those acting like they are ABSOLUTELY right and I am ABSOLUTELY wrong is just as annoying, isn't it?  Thanks for the info, sincerely.  I'm happy to learn and shape my opinions, I just get tired of the condescension of people who think "their side" is the settled science side.  Obviously this whole thing has evolved and will evolve as we move along.

And I am not pretending that the NFL is doing this for any reason other than money.  But I also think ("think" ) the PA would be very careful about making these changes if they thought there was any real danger to their union members.  I could be wrong, but De Smith et al have demonstrated time and again they really do want to protect the health of the players.  

 

[Dacomish]

I can remember when we used to come in here to see what players were out due to COVID......

 

[fatness]

@facook, how about you drop it? You're crapping up a helpful thread.

 

[Gilroy34]

@facook, how about you drop it? You're crapping up a helpful thread.

This doesn't help at all.  It was dropped a long time ago yet you brought it up again.

 

[facook]

@facook, how about you drop it? You're crapping up a helpful thread.

This doesn't help at all.  It was dropped a long time ago yet you brought it up again.

Nah, @Gilroy34, I appreciate you but@fatness is right.  @Bayhawks kind of brought me to my senses.  There are people who can't drop it, so I did/will.  I apologize.  I have opinions that aren't welcome.  I'll drop them, and pledge to only chime in when it comes to players playing or not playing.

With that being said....Taysom Hill is back under the new rules.  So him or Ravens Huntley this weekend?  Can't imagine Lamar actually plays.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Taysom Hill is back under the new rules.  So him or Ravens Huntley this weekend?

Leaning Hill ATM. Started Tua last week when Taysom and then Tyler were out on the R/C list. Like Fields matchup but probably a bad idea, eh.

Harbough won’t be doing us any favors, you know we won’t know for sure until 1130-Noon on Sunday. It’s a tough call IMO.

 

[Gilroy34]

Updated COVID list

 

[kyoun1e]

Cousins on the list and is OUT.

Oh boy.

Huge ramifications to MN offense. Cook and Jefferson. Ugh.

 

[Dacomish]

Just saw a blurb on Rotoworld - A.Gibson is on COVID list as well...

 

[fatness]

Darren Waller, LVR

Mike Evans, TB

Julio Jones, TEN

 

[BobbyLayne]

Cousins on the list and is OUT.

Oh boy.

Huge ramifications to MN offense. Cook and Jefferson. Ugh.

and by extension maybe  ARod & Adams?

probably won’t need to be as aggressive, low scoring, & with the low temps…

 

[kyoun1e]

and by extension maybe  ARod & Adams?

probably won’t need to be as aggressive, low scoring, & with the low temps…

Yup.

Bet the under.

Could be an AJ Dillon kind of day.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Is there an O/U on the number of players that will be put on the Covid list tomorrow morning? 

Has anyone put much thought into this?

There could be anywhere from 25-50 players tomorrow that test positive and a few of them could be QBs, WRs, RBs and TEs, we saw Kirk Covid go on the list today and we could see a few more tomorrow before kickoff. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Cousins on the list and is OUT.

Oh boy.

Huge ramifications to MN offense. Cook and Jefferson. Ugh.

 

[BigDave]

and by extension maybe  ARod & Adams?

probably won’t need to be as aggressive, low scoring, & with the low temps…

I hope so, I'm against them both.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I hope so, I'm against them both.

Mixed feelings - opponent has Rodgers, I have Adams.

Purely from projections, he has solid advantages at QB & TE (Kelce), I have a stronger team at WR-WR-WR, RB-RB, Flex, K, DST - the biggest spread is at WR (Adams-Lamb-Cooks) and DST (NE.)

Interestingly, he has 9 starters going at 1pm, and then only AR on SNF after that.

My team has 2 @ 1pm, 3 @ 4:05, 3 @ 4:25, Adams SNF and Najee MNF.

 

[BigDave]

Mixed feelings - opponent has Rodgers, I have Adams.

Purely from projections, he has solid advantages at QB & TE (Kelce), I have a stronger team at WR-WR-WR, RB-RB, Flex, K, DST - the biggest spread is at WR (Adams-Lamb-Cooks) and DST (NE.)

Interestingly, he has 9 starters going at 1pm, and then only AR on SNF after that.

My team has 2 @ 1pm, 3 @ 4:05, 3 @ 4:25, Adams SNF and Najee MNF.

Don't you think the game will be more about the run game in the cold and no Cousins? 

Doesn't feel like a typical GB game to me.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Don't you think the game will be more about the run game in the cold and no Cousins? 

Doesn't feel like a typical GB game to me.

yeah should be a Dillon game - as I said, low scoring. with more runs they’ll run less plays. Vikings likely won’t be able to keep up.

then again, Rodgers loves to just destroy an opponents will by boat racing them early. tremendous front runner (& relatively few comebacks.) 

I’ve been looking at a lot of 10 degrees and below box scores. surprised at how effective passing games still were in nearly all of them. it’s gonna be dry with virtually no wind.

it’s not insane to think he’ll have say 250 & 2 TDs, and if so, Davante will probably get his.

anyway, nothing to be done about it either way. gotta dance with the one who brought ya.

 

[kyoun1e]

Question: What are the odds that players hit the Covid list between now and 1 PM est tmrw?

Are they still testing right up until game time?

Reason I ask, I'm carrying backups to cover good matchups (K. Vaughn in case RoJo gets Covid, K. Herbert for Montgomery, etc). Would rather ditch them and grab players with higher projections in case of a tie.

 

[robb]

yeah should be a Dillon game - as I said, low scoring. with more runs they’ll run less plays. Vikings likely won’t be able to keep up.

then again, Rodgers loves to just destroy an opponents will by boat racing them early. tremendous front runner (& relatively few comebacks.) 

I’ve been looking at a lot of 10 degrees and below box scores. surprised at how effective passing games still were in nearly all of them. it’s gonna be dry with virtually no wind.

it’s not insane to think he’ll have say 250 & 2 TDs, and if so, Davante will probably get his.

anyway, nothing to be done about it either way. gotta dance with the one who brought ya.

Thoughts then on how effective MVS will be tomorrow evening?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Thoughts then on how effective MVS will be tomorrow evening?

2-35-0 WR4/5



he’s been activated so he’s as good as any other dart throw 

he runs a lot of deep routes, he’ll probably be third amongst the GB WRs in snaps & targets unless there is Adana/Lazard news I haven’t seen 

given the weather & expected game script I can’t think of any logical reason to favor him over two dozen other WR4/5s laying around

 

[fatness]

Carson Wentz off COVID list.

 

[menobrown]

I'm just posting to say I miss the fantasy football season greatly when it's over with but I must say I found it really nice today that every time I saw an updated on a player out for COVID and I could tell myself I don't have to worry about it anymore.