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The return of BIG Mike Williams (1 Viewer)

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Mike Sando of ESPN.com reports WR Mike Williams, who played for Seahawks coach Pete Carroll at USC, will participate at Seahawks minicamp on a tryout basis.

Mike Williams, the 10th player chosen in the 2005 draft, flamed out previously with Detroit, Oakland and Tennessee. Size, strength and hands were what made him appealing coming out of USC. But Williams, listed at 6-foot-5 and 230 pounds, caught only 44 passes for 539 yards and two touchdowns in 30 career regular-season games. His weight reportedly ranged between roughly 240 and 270 pounds.

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Oh and Reggie 'Anybody got some doobage?' Williams will be there too.

 
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Mike Sando of ESPN.com reports WR Mike Williams, who played for Seahawks coach Pete Carroll at USC, will participate at Seahawks minicamp on a tryout basis. Mike Williams, the 10th player chosen in the 2005 draft, flamed out previously with Detroit, Oakland and Tennessee. Size, strength and hands were what made him appealing coming out of USC. But Williams, listed at 6-foot-5 and 230 pounds, caught only 44 passes for 539 yards and two touchdowns in 30 career regular-season games. His weight reportedly ranged between roughly 240 and 270 pounds.:rolleyes:Oh and Reggie 'Anybody got some doobage?' Williams will be there too.
"Flamed out" implies there was something there to begin with. Charles Rogers flamed out. Williams never even got warm.
 
He fooled a lot of critics when he was at USC, never heard much form folks saying he was fat, slow, and would flop in the NFL. He tried to come out as a Sophomore and it blew up in his face. he was not ready and was out of football for 12-18 months at a time in his life when he was still developing. Imagine any up and ocming athlete doesn't touch the field for 18 months when they are still not fully developed.

I make no excuses for the guy, total waste of fill in the blank. Maybe Carroll is just trying to be nice but I can't possibly imagine he makes the final roster but good for him to get an opp to show something again.

 
I can only imagine Mike walking into the tryout:

Mike: Coach, I'm here. Sorry, I'm late. The line at In & Out was backed up.

Pete: No problem son. I come from a program where no one is held accountable. What is your name?

Mike: Coach, it's me, Mike Williams

Pete: (laughs) Oh, right. You look great. The TE tryouts were scheduled for tomorrow, but I'll make an exception here. I know how difficult it is for you to get up before noon. I appreciate you coming out

Mike: Actually coach, I'm here for the WR tryouts.

Pete: Sure you are. So let's get started. Let's see you run a 15 yard out route.

(Out goes Mike)

Pete: Ok son. I told you to run your route.

Mike: Sorry Coach, I'm a little rusty.

(Out goes Mike again)

Pete: Mike, what part of running aren't you understanding?? This isn't Oregon State here. You can't jog and outmuscle guys on every throw here with the big boys.

Mike: (nearly passing out from shortness of breath) Sorry coach, can we do this another time? 2x Tuesdays at Dominos. Gotta run. Thanks for the opportunity.

(Mike waddles off field)

Pete (to assistant coaches): I recruited THAT to USC??

 
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I can only imagine Mike walking into the tryout: Mike: Coach, I'm here. Sorry, I'm late. The line at In & Out was backed up.Pete: No problem son. I come from a program where no one is held accountable. What is your name?Mike: Coach, it's me, Mike WilliamsPete: (laughs) Oh, right. You look great. The TE tryouts were scheduled for tomorrow, but I'll make an exception here. I know how difficult it is for you to get up before noon. I appreciate you coming outMike: Actually coach, I'm here for the WR tryouts.Pete: Sure you are. So let's get started. Let's see you run a 15 yard out route.(Out goes Mike)Pete: Ok son. I told you to run your route. Mike: Sorry Coach, I'm a little rusty.(Out goes Mike again)Pete: Mike, what part of running aren't you understanding?? This isn't Oregon State here. You can't jog and outmuscle guys on every throw here with the big boys.Mike: (nearly passing out from shortness of breath) Sorry coach, can we do this another time? 2x Tuesdays at Dominos. Go to run. Thanks for the opportunity.(Mike waddles off field)Pete (to assistant coaches): I recruited THAT to USC??
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Craig_MiamiFL said:
I can only imagine Mike walking into the tryout: Mike: Coach, I'm here. Sorry, I'm late. The line at In & Out was backed up.Pete: No problem son. I come from a program where no one is held accountable. What is your name?Mike: Coach, it's me, Mike WilliamsPete: (laughs) Oh, right. You look great. The TE tryouts were scheduled for tomorrow, but I'll make an exception here. I know how difficult it is for you to get up before noon. I appreciate you coming outMike: Actually coach, I'm here for the WR tryouts.Pete: Sure you are. So let's get started. Let's see you run a 15 yard out route.(Out goes Mike)Pete: Ok son. I told you to run your route. Mike: Sorry Coach, I'm a little rusty.(Out goes Mike again)Pete: Mike, what part of running aren't you understanding?? This isn't Oregon State here. You can't jog and outmuscle guys on every throw here with the big boys.Mike: (nearly passing out from shortness of breath) Sorry coach, can we do this another time? 2x Tuesdays at Dominos. Gotta run. Thanks for the opportunity.(Mike waddles off field)Pete (to assistant coaches): I recruited THAT to USC??
:lol: That's what I'm talking about. ;) 50/50 BMW doesn't make it thru the minicamp.
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
I can only imagine Mike walking into the tryout: Mike: Coach, I'm here. Sorry, I'm late. The line at In & Out was backed up.Pete: No problem son. I come from a program where no one is held accountable. What is your name?Mike: Coach, it's me, Mike WilliamsPete: (laughs) Oh, right. You look great. The TE tryouts were scheduled for tomorrow, but I'll make an exception here. I know how difficult it is for you to get up before noon. I appreciate you coming outMike: Actually coach, I'm here for the WR tryouts.Pete: Sure you are. So let's get started. Let's see you run a 15 yard out route.(Out goes Mike)Pete: Ok son. I told you to run your route. Mike: Sorry Coach, I'm a little rusty.(Out goes Mike again)Pete: Mike, what part of running aren't you understanding?? This isn't Oregon State here. You can't jog and outmuscle guys on every throw here with the big boys.Mike: (nearly passing out from shortness of breath) Sorry coach, can we do this another time? 2x Tuesdays at Dominos. Gotta run. Thanks for the opportunity.(Mike waddles off field)Pete (to assistant coaches): I recruited THAT to USC??
You forgot the part, where he arrives, and leaves, in the USC provided vehicle
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
I can only imagine Mike walking into the tryout:

Mike: Coach, I'm here. Sorry, I'm late. The line at In & Out was backed up.

Pete: No problem son. I come from a program where no one is held accountable. What is your name?

Mike: Coach, it's me, Mike Williams

Pete: (laughs) Oh, right. You look great. The TE tryouts were scheduled for tomorrow, but I'll make an exception here. I know how difficult it is for you to get up before noon. I appreciate you coming out

Mike: Actually coach, I'm here for the WR tryouts.

Pete: Sure you are. So let's get started. Let's see you run a 15 yard out route.

(Out goes Mike)

Pete: Ok son. I told you to run your route.

Mike: Sorry Coach, I'm a little rusty.

(Out goes Mike again)

Pete: Mike, what part of running aren't you understanding?? This isn't UCLA here. You can't jog and outmuscle guys on every throw here with the big boys.

Mike: (nearly passing out from shortness of breath) Sorry coach, can we do this another time? 2x Tuesdays at Dominos. Gotta run. Thanks for the opportunity.

(Mike waddles off field)

Pete (to assistant coaches): I recruited THAT to USC??
You forgot the part, where he arrives, and leaves, in the USC provided vehicle
Fixed.... OSU isnt the doormat of the PAC10 anymore.
 
The more things change the more they stay the same.

Mike Williams is a former Trojans wide receiver who almost ballooned his way out of the NFL but is now slimmed down to 235 pounds. He's getting a tryout with his old college coach. He made the mistake of walking between drills as he talked to Seahawks veteran receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh.``Mike Williams, c'mon!'' Carroll yelled. ``What are you walking out here for?''
 
Reggie Williams is also trying out for the Hawks.

It can only be a matter of time before Charles Rogers gets a shot.

 
I can only imagine Mike walking into the tryout: Mike: Coach, I'm here. Sorry, I'm late. The line at In & Out was backed up.Pete: No problem son. I come from a program where no one is held accountable. What is your name?Mike: Coach, it's me, Mike WilliamsPete: (laughs) Oh, right. You look great. The TE tryouts were scheduled for tomorrow, but I'll make an exception here. I know how difficult it is for you to get up before noon. I appreciate you coming outMike: Actually coach, I'm here for the WR tryouts.Pete: Sure you are. So let's get started. Let's see you run a 15 yard out route.(Out goes Mike)Pete: Ok son. I told you to run your route. Mike: Sorry Coach, I'm a little rusty.(Out goes Mike again)Pete: Mike, what part of running aren't you understanding?? This isn't Oregon State here. You can't jog and outmuscle guys on every throw here with the big boys.Mike: (nearly passing out from shortness of breath) Sorry coach, can we do this another time? 2x Tuesdays at Dominos. Gotta run. Thanks for the opportunity.(Mike waddles off field)Pete (to assistant coaches): I recruited THAT to USC??
solid, except there are are no in-n-out's in Seattle :confused:
 
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Mike Williams-WR-Seahawks Apr. 15 - 8:30 pm et Seahawks signed WR Mike Williams, formerly of the Titans, to an undisclosed contract.Pete Carroll is also bringing FB Ryan Powdrell while collecting former USC players. Williams was down to 235 pounds at this week's minicamp, and Carroll liked what he saw of the former No. 10 overall pick. Williams is no lock to make the team, but Seattle's lack of depth at receiver will help his chances. Source: Jason LaCanfora on Twitter
 
Gawd, I remember back in 2005 when Detroit drafted him. I liked the pick for about 5 minutes, drooling at the WR trio of Charles Rogers, Roy Williams, and Mike Williams. :blackdot: :rolleyes: :bag:

 
...and Reggie is signed as well... can Freddie Mitchell be far behind?

(Rotoworld) Seahawks signed WR Reggie Williams to an undisclosed contract
No way, FredEx was a Bruin.I don't see either of them making the team, but these moves don't hurt any. If one of them resurrects themselves then it's win-win. If they don't, then nothing lost by the Seahawks. As for the idea that "they should've tried harder for Marshall", that's just absurd. You can't compare the cost in trade and salary that they would've had to give up for BM to the idea of trying out some guys in the offseason who once had great potential.
 
I don't really have a problem with him, but I am amazed every spring, how some writers completely fall for this routine:

Mike Williams says Lions didn't have plan for him

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on May 4, 2010 5:26 PM ET

The Mike Williams reclamation project is one of the more fascinating stories of the offseason. (No, no it's not.)

40 pounds lighter than his days in Tennessee, there is legitimate hope in Seattle he will make the Seahawks and possibly contribute. (Weren't we told he had slimmed down in Tennessee? I know we were told that in Oakland....)

Williams accepts plenty of blame for his failed run in Detroit, but also blamed the Lions for some of his problems. Williams said he was with an "organization that didn't really have a plan for me, to say it nicely." (A plan for you?!?! You're a WR, Skippy, not a nuclear reactor. Perhaps their plan was for you to not show looking like Brandon Malumaleuna, what do ya think?)

Williams went on to thank the organization for everything they did for him, and point the finger at himself, saying his "immaturity was fighting them on what I wanted and openly showing how unhappy I was."

By all accounts, Williams is paying attention to detail now and impressing. We'll be impressed if he can keep it up, and have a solid second act ala Tony Mandarich, another draft bust.
Totally awesome, I know I read these stories when he was in Oakland, and the Tennessee stuff was even worse (Be able to spread his wings now that he's away from the stupid Raiders).

Here's an exciting Seattle article on this Comeback Kid:

Seahawks' Mike Williams shaping up for breakthrough season-----(This cannot be the first time this headline has been used, can it??)

RENTON — Mike Williams returned to USC's campus last November, overweight, unfulfilled and talking about a comeback.

In hindsight, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll can see the significance.

"He came through and said he was going to do this and that," said Carroll, who coached Williams in college. "I kind of didn't think much of it at the time because he was probably 30 pounds heavier than he is right now."

That day marked a turning point in Williams' conditioning, and perhaps his football career. For the past three weeks, the receiver has shown flashes of the talent that once made him a top-10 draft choice. Signed by Seattle to a one-year contract after a tryout in April, Williams is attempting to grab hold of this opportunity to return to the NFL after spending the past two seasons out of the league.

"He's definitely at a place where he's really competitive physically," Carroll said. "It's the best I've seen him since maybe his sophomore year of college. He's very serious about it, so maybe he gets a chance to give us some help."

Williams is one of two former first-round receivers trying to play their way back into the league. The other is Reggie Williams, who attended Lakes High School and the University of Washington. Reggie's conditioning is improving, but Mike has really distinguished himself since his tryout, showing his talent was just buried underneath the weight he accumulated with bad habits and late nights.

"One of my main problems early in my career was I was trying to bring friends and family along to enjoy the experience of being an NFL player," he said. "Being able to go hang out in the clubs, just developed some real bad habits."

Chosen by Detroit with the 10th pick in 2005, Williams played two seasons with Detroit before being traded to Oakland. He didn't last past October with the Raiders; he then signed with Tennessee, where he never caught a pass. The Titans let go of Williams before the 2008 season, and last year he found himself in Los Angeles, a football player without a job in a city without a franchise.

"It's an empty feeling," he said. "You're sitting here and you've got this money, and you've got a nice house and a car and everything like that. But you're still empty. because you want to be a football player but you're not a football player."

There were no injuries to point to. No excuses, either. Williams managed 44 receptions in his three pro seasons — not what anyone imagined after he caught 176 passes in two seasons for USC.

The 6-foot-5 Williams reportedly weighed as much as 270 pounds with Tennessee. Now at 230, he's proving to be a big-bodied receiver who just might be capable of contributing to a rebuilding team.

During Saturday's practice, Williams caught a pass from Matt Hasselbeck on an in route and didn't even break stride when cornerback Chris Richards crashed into him and fell to the turf. Williams ran over the middle, turned upfield toward the end zone and pointed to the sky to celebrate.

Is this the best Williams has felt since entering the NFL?

"It really isn't even a question," he said. "I've changed a lot of bad habits. There's an infatuation with the results. You just kind of want to keep at it and keep at it. As I told coach Carroll, 'I want to see how far I can take it.' "
 
He is a long shot but ever since Tampa found a diamond in the rough with Antonio Bryant I am a big supporter of reclamation projects.

 
The guy who interests me here is actually Reggie Williams. I always felt that he was a better talent than Mike and he had a much better NFL career before being derailed by his work ethic/drug issues. Even though it seems like he has been around forever, he's still only 26 years old (about to turn 27) because he was so young when he entered the league. He could be the big-bodied possession WR that Seattle needs.

 
I can only imagine Mike walking into the tryout:

Mike: Coach, I'm here. Sorry, I'm late. The line at In & Out was backed up.

Pete: No problem son. I come from a program where no one is held accountable. What is your name?

Mike: Coach, it's me, Mike Williams

Pete: (laughs) Oh, right. You look great. The TE tryouts were scheduled for tomorrow, but I'll make an exception here. I know how difficult it is for you to get up before noon. I appreciate you coming out

Mike: Actually coach, I'm here for the WR tryouts.

Pete: Sure you are. So let's get started. Let's see you run a 15 yard out route.

(Out goes Mike)

Pete: Ok son. I told you to run your route.

Mike: Sorry Coach, I'm a little rusty.

(Out goes Mike again)

Pete: Mike, what part of running aren't you understanding?? This isn't Oregon State here. You can't jog and outmuscle guys on every throw here with the big boys.

Mike: (nearly passing out from shortness of breath) Sorry coach, can we do this another time? 2x Tuesdays at Dominos. Gotta run. Thanks for the opportunity.

(Mike waddles off field)

Pete (to assistant coaches): I recruited THAT to USC??
I was having fun in here until I read this blasphemy. I wouldn't be sad if you stubbed your toe later.
 
He is a long shot but ever since Tampa found a diamond in the rough with Antonio Bryant I am a big supporter of reclamation projects.
Antonio Bryant never fell as far as Williams did. Bryant was a guy who averaged 50/750 over 5 seasons before sitting out for 1 year.Williams doesn't have 50/750 combined for his entire career. And he hasn't played in more than 2 years.

 
TommyGilmore said:
QUEZILLA said:
He is a long shot but ever since Tampa found a diamond in the rough with Antonio Bryant I am a big supporter of reclamation projects.
Antonio Bryant never fell as far as Williams did. Bryant was a guy who averaged 50/750 over 5 seasons before sitting out for 1 year.Williams doesn't have 50/750 combined for his entire career. And he hasn't played in more than 2 years.
:rant: Mike Williams has not shown any indication that he is a cabable NFL receiver. He is a huge long shot to make the Seahawks.

 
not sure why people want to bash. The guy is trying to make something out of himself and understands the mistakes he's made. I hope for the best.

snagged him in the 5th round of a rookie/vet draft. Why not? Worst case scenario, I have another roster spot to play with

 
not sure why people want to bash. The guy is trying to make something out of himself and understands the mistakes he's made. I hope for the best.snagged him in the 5th round of a rookie/vet draft. Why not? Worst case scenario, I have another roster spot to play with
You have that roster spot anyways. As far as why people want to bash, pretty much every top pick that busts get bashed. And he's not getting bashed, he's being called what he is, a bust. It's been 6 years since he looked like a decent football player, my question is: How does he continue to fool people? We were told he was smaller in Oakland than Detroit, smaller in tennessee than Oakland, and now he's smaller in Seattle. I hope he doesn't try out for a team next year, he might just disappear!
 
Mike never showed he was an NFL caliber WR. Never showed a work ethic. Charles Rogers has a better shot at making a regular season roster.

Antonio Bryant & Mike Williams are in no way similar. Antonio Bryant works out in the offseason. Mike eats Pizza Hut, slurps soda & plays Madden 24/7 in his. Mike never got out of college mode.

You never see anyone's jaw drop because of Mike's play. The first thing out of their mouth is his weight (how 'good' he looks, blah blah)

 
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Reggie Williams is also trying out for the Hawks.

It can only be a matter of time before Charles Rogers gets a shot.
Reggie cut; Big Mike still hanging around
When you are BIG, that is how you roll. Funny b/c Pete is definitely giving his boys the benefit of the doubt, unless they really screw up ala White.
Disagree, Pete knows the scrutiny on him as an nfl coach. I believe he will give "his guys" the chance to make it, but I think he is smart enough to give the best player the job.*nonetheless I think Carrol will be out of the NFL in 2 years

 
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Reggie Williams is also trying out for the Hawks.

It can only be a matter of time before Charles Rogers gets a shot.
Reggie cut; Big Mike still hanging around
When you are BIG, that is how you roll. Funny b/c Pete is definitely giving his boys the benefit of the doubt, unless they really screw up ala White.
Disagree, Pete knows the scrutiny on him as an nfl coach. I believe he will his guys the chance to make it, but I think he is smart enough to give the best player the job.*nonetheless I think Carrol will be out of the NFL in 2 years
:jawdrop: Carroll is a bad coach and will be exposed in the for the third time.

 
I am a really big Mike Williams fan. He has no speed but he can still jump and catch a ball. He is also still young. And I don't think you can give his work (lack of) in Detroit, Oakland, and Tennessee any real credence. If you hav forgotten, Detroit and Oakland are the worst place for any immature and young player to go (at least while he was there). The Titans are pretty stable, but they have yet to develop a WR since Derrick Mason.

That forced year off outta school really hurt him. He hasn't had the chance to play a meaningful game since he was a sophmore.

 
I am a really big Mike Williams fan. He has no speed but he can still jump and catch a ball. He is also still young. And I don't think you can give his work (lack of) in Detroit, Oakland, and Tennessee any real credence. If you hav forgotten, Detroit and Oakland are the worst place for any immature and young player to go (at least while he was there). The Titans are pretty stable, but they have yet to develop a WR since Derrick Mason. That forced year off outta school really hurt him. He hasn't had the chance to play a meaningful game since he was a sophmore.
what's with the excuses here? He was a bust for nobody's fault but his own. Do we blame det, tn, etc for his inability to push back fromthe table, for his inability to seperate?No doubt a year off after USC killed him. Can only imagine what 2-3 years off several years later has done. I think that Reggie Williams being cut this early says more about what Reggie's done with his time off (ie probably hasn't touched a football) than Mike. We haven't even touched TC yet. Even with the worst wr core in the league, Mike won't make it out. He's too old now to make a developmental guy. He ought to head to the minor circuit & actually play.
 
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They aren't really excuses, rather possible explanations. Football is, as you should know, is a team sport and putting a raw talent on a very very crappy team is as much of a testament to the teams inability as the players inability. I mean it is no coincidence one team drafted WRs in the first round three years in a row and none of those players are very good. Even Roy Williams looks like a jabroni on an actual team and he had the awesome tutleage of the lions.

 
Mike Williams is definitely one of the biggest busts in the last ten seasons. He's a pretty easy target to laugh at. But with that being said, I don't think it's a bad idea to keep an open mind. When Ricky Williams said he was coming back during the 2007 season, nobody really took it seriously and made a joke out of it. Same thing happened with Cedric Benson after he washed out of the league. Before last season, how many people valued Cedric Benson as a former first round pick who might be turning it around as a workhorse back and how many valued him as a washed up loser who might lose his job? I know I've certainly laughed at Darius Heyward Bey outrunning the giants defense to the wrong endzone. Those aren't perfect comparisons but I think my point has come across. I'm not saying that Mike Williams has accomplished anything or will accomplish anything, just that even if he does, he'll probably be undervalued in fantasy just cause it's easy to make fun of him.

 
Never thought ced would be as solid of workhorse as he's become. However, I always thought he belonged in the league. To what extent was the question. Mike's never shown even a glimpse that he belonged.

He's nothing more than a 26 ? Year old project that's been out of the league for years - one that never displayed NFL skill during his 'prime'. He outmuscled a bunch of PAC 10 db's - and that's the extent of his football success.

We've got training camp coming up. I would be absolutely stunned if Mike made it through. That he made it to TC means nothing to me. You have to be absolutely terrible not to - particularly with that wr core.

 
Gosh, how unfortunate that Mike Williams has had his career derailed by the terrible teams in DET, TEN, and OAK. Bummer that he was on teams that couldn't develop WRs. Thank god he is in Seattle, cradle of WR development.

Hopefully, the Seattle coaches can do what past coaches cannot. I am assuming this involves gastric bypass surgery, a state-of-the-art timelock on BMW's fridge, perhaps one of those buzzing dog collars that will zap him when he is within 20 feet of a fast-food restaurant.

Looking forward to the 'Mike Williams is ripping it up in Cleveland camp!' thread next year.

 
Creed Bratton said:
Mike Williams is definitely one of the biggest busts in the last ten seasons. He's a pretty easy target to laugh at. But with that being said, I don't think it's a bad idea to keep an open mind. When Ricky Williams said he was coming back during the 2007 season, nobody really took it seriously and made a joke out of it. Same thing happened with Cedric Benson after he washed out of the league. Before last season, how many people valued Cedric Benson as a former first round pick who might be turning it around as a workhorse back and how many valued him as a washed up loser who might lose his job? I know I've certainly laughed at Darius Heyward Bey outrunning the giants defense to the wrong endzone. Those aren't perfect comparisons but I think my point has come across. I'm not saying that Mike Williams has accomplished anything or will accomplish anything, just that even if he does, he'll probably be undervalued in fantasy just cause it's easy to make fun of him.
The best example I can come up with is Tony Mandarich who was labeled one of the biggest bust ever then disappeared for 4 years and came back to play some decent football for the Colts. I actually hope Williams does well because I'm still ripped by league members for saying he was going to be the next Randy Moss.
 
Creed Bratton said:
Mike Williams is definitely one of the biggest busts in the last ten seasons. He's a pretty easy target to laugh at. But with that being said, I don't think it's a bad idea to keep an open mind. When Ricky Williams said he was coming back during the 2007 season, nobody really took it seriously and made a joke out of it. Same thing happened with Cedric Benson after he washed out of the league. Before last season, how many people valued Cedric Benson as a former first round pick who might be turning it around as a workhorse back and how many valued him as a washed up loser who might lose his job? I know I've certainly laughed at Darius Heyward Bey outrunning the giants defense to the wrong endzone. Those aren't perfect comparisons but I think my point has come across. I'm not saying that Mike Williams has accomplished anything or will accomplish anything, just that even if he does, he'll probably be undervalued in fantasy just cause it's easy to make fun of him.
Ricky had done so much more then Mike has ever done so it isn't even a close comparison. It's like trying to compare an apple to a clump of dirt. A better comparison would be BMW to Demetrius Byrd or Marko Mitchell. There's value and then there's throwing money down the drain on super longshots. If he does make the final roster it'll be because of ST play and I just don't see it happening with this guy.My O/U would be Aug. 31st when they have cuts down to 75.
 

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