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No. Tons of people couldn't stand Jackie Robinson. Couldn't stand Ali's stance on the Vietnam War. Couldn't stand Jim Brown's opinions.
I don't care at all what people watch. Espn's ratings are in decline because of different viewing habits/cord cutting, not because some trash ### hillbillies are upset because they think the black lady doesn't know her place.
Calling the POTUS essentially the KKK is a complete joke, can't believe how brainwashed you are. SAD.You're the ignorant one if you don't see how someone could call Donald Trump a white supremacist.
Oh, really? What are your thoughts on someone that would say this...
Man you are way off the deep end and part of the 3% that likes ESPN's new liberal leaning political agenda, enjoy while it's still around.Oh, really? What are your thoughts on someone that would say this...
"Obama's '07 speech which @DailyCaller just released not only shows that Obama is a racist but also how the press always covers for him."
Oh, you'd vote for him? Defend him when someone calls him a white supremacist after surrounding himself with white supremacists and having a history of racism. Right, I'm the brainwashed one.
SAD!!!!!
Nah, man. You're the one who criticizes a 'D List Journalist' for a statement no worse than one made by the man you voted for as President of the USA. Reprimands her company yet supports a man who says the same thing.Man you are way off the deep end and part of the 3% that likes ESPN's new liberal leaning political agenda, enjoy while it's still around.
How is this tangent relevant? Who cares if the small percentage of athletes you mentioned were political? We arent talking about the athletes being political we are talking about the analysts and commentators. Let CNN cover their politics.
What I'm saying is...everyone needs to get over themselves complaining about ESPN covering politics. They matter in sports and always have. They matter when Greg Popovich and Steve Kerr call out President Cheeto for being an idiot. They matter when NFL players protest the national anthem to bring awareness to police brutality.
All of your complaints are about politics being covered? Full stop? Same vitriol for
Of course people complained about Tebow.
For me, it's about the politics before cord-cutting was even a concept.Of course people complained about Tebow.
That's why this whole argument about ESPN's 'liberal-leaning politics' being a reason for their 'demise' as has been posited is foolish. It a'int about the politics. It's about the cord-cutters.
What the #### are you even talking about anymore? I dumped ESPN because of their politics, not cable you kumquat.
Arguing against yourself now? This is getting good.Of course people complained about Tebow.
That's why this whole argument about ESPN's 'liberal-leaning politics' being a reason for their 'demise' as has been posited is foolish. It a'int about the politics. It's about the cord-cutters.
ESPN's problems are all about a dwindling number of cable subscribers. Not politics. You were still paying for cable, therefore you were still paying for ESPN.
There are al a carte tv services now - people could choose to cut the cable and pay for espn if they'd like.
On Sling if you buy the orange package, you get espn, blue you don't. I'm just saying that cutting the cable doesn't necessarily imply that ESPN is unavailable if the person wants it. If the content is worth having, it's now possible to get it at a reasonable price without a cable subscription.
I don't think politics mix well with sports. Many people watch sports to get away from life, including the constant drumbeat of politics in most of the other forms of media and journalism. Just my opinion
Show me all the money that the NFL Network had paid in broadcast fees and then I'll consider the analogy is any way valid.
People have been complaining for years that the political threads were ruining this forum.
Right, that's the point. If you still pay for cable but don't watch ESPN - you aren't hurting them at all. They make their money off you whether you watch the network or not. That was basically the business model. They made crazy fees off every cable sub regardless of whether or not those people watched a single second of ESPN.
As many times as you've contradicted yourself I'm good without your approval. Take your bickering to the political thread.
I think the assumption is that eventually carriers will push back against ESPN's carriage fees if the ratings go down. But that seems a long way off. People freak out when cable companies try to drop crap like the Discovery Channel.
If it came with a corresponding discount on my package, I wouldn't miss ESPN at all. Cable companies aren't going to start giving money back any time soon though.
Nfl network has a standalone product offered by streaming and doesn't pay rights fees.
Yes, I know that. What I'm saying is that it's probably more reflective of ratings in the genre. I can't imagine any debate show gets a serious number.
agreed to a very large extent (especially the politics) ... but i really don't need Ike Taylor's shoe/fashion stylings to be the highlight of the MNF wrapup show. ridiculous. :X
First take, which is awful, gets between 4-500,000 viewers. Undisputed sometimes doesn't even crack 100k.
