That was the very first thing that popped in my head.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
The Rise and Fall of ESPN (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Joe T
- Start date
rockaction
Footballguy
I think I'll just leave this here.
"I have no desire to be a politician. My life is pretty well."
"I have no desire to be a politician. My life is pretty well."
rockaction
Footballguy
In all seriousness, this guy thinks that the Democratic Party wants him to run and he will do so depending on whether or not he thinks the Democrats have come up with anybody acceptable. He actually went on to say that he didn't know all the issues cold yet but that he could get up to snuff and wipe the debate floor with the other candidates with a "couple of months" (paraphrased because he might have said "three months" but I'm not going back to watch that garbage) preparation. :/
He was dead serious the whole time. This man doesn't have an ironic of humorous bone in his body, and he's not very bright. Oof.
Eephus
Footballguy
This isn't disqualifying for the office
rockaction
Footballguy
Touché. Sad that it doesn’t.
Hastur
Footballguy
He(or most anyone) can follow this book to the letter and garner 20% of the popular vote.
rockaction
Footballguy
This time, I voted for Epictetus, a deceased Greek slave and stoic philosopher.
I can understand not liking Stephen A. Smith's style or delivery.
But I think he's very bright.
But I think he's very bright.
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm not really willing to give him the benefit of the doubt considering he's been yelling some not-well-thought-out takes on sports in my ear whenever I hit the ESPN website or mistakenly leave the channel on. Has he ever discussed a high-level analytical concept during his show? Has he ever said anything you've heard where you nodded your head and said "good point"? It's not necessarily the style or delivery at all. It's that his points are always reductive and emotional, lowest common denominator. He bleats hot, bad, emotionally overwrought takes in one's ear.
How about this? I'll succinctly analyze the three minutes I spent watching that interview. First of all, he didn't use the adverb "well" correctly, and it was an egregious grammatical mistake. Second, anybody who thinks they can study for three months and be prepared for the presidency is naive at best. Then to say that you'd "wipe the floor" with the other candidates in a debate is grossly hubristic. Bad combination.
So in three minutes his three main statements were all wrong in some way. Wrong with respect to the English language and its usage; wrong about the nature of the office he claims that he might seek to hold; and wrong about his own prowess as a debater.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I remember him from my freshman year Ancient and Medieval Political Theory course.
I liked Epicurus better.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
In the sense that Smith is now the highest paid clown in America, I agree that he is very bright. No one should ever listen to him for real analysis of anything, though. He is a clown show, and he is banking big off it, so props to him.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Seems to be a prerequisite these days.
We'll disagree that "he's not very bright". No worries there.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Agree with this completely. He's a television personality, bright in ways that the Kardashians are bright. Occasionally substantive, but mostly a loudmouth who needlessly uses too many words to get his point across. Why? To suck the air out of the room and to come across as "smarter" than he really is and to even intimidate fellow panelists. I've come across people like this in my life. There's not much to them. He's a helluva opportunist though. I'll give him that.
I remember years ago when he was just the basketball guy for ESPN. I'd pray that he wouldn't get folded into football. That stayed true for maybe two years or so.
Relatedly, I turned off DirecTV two or three months ago. I don't miss ESPN outside of PTI, and even that is just an occasional thought. At 52 though, I'm not the target audience. Guess how much ESPN my 12 year old sport-loving son watches? Yep. Zero.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Manster
Footballguy
I have ESPN+ so I can get college baseball games that are not on our local channel. I don't have a service that has the actual ESPN channels.
ESPN is owned by Disney. ESPN is in bed with the SEC. Lots of $$$. I think they are doing fine. People take it in differently. The days of Sportscenter being must see tv are over
Todem
Footballguy
Same here or 30 for 30
That’s it.
Everything else is hot garbage.
ESPNU
ACC
SEC
Big 10
Big 12
Have a sports package (not ESPN Plus) and watch a ton of NCAA Baseball on those ESPN networks.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I used to love pti. Haven’t watched in quite awhile
Todem
Footballguy
Yeah that was a good show …..been a decade for me since I watched it.
NFL Primetime was required viewing when it was Berman and Jackson…..the good ol days.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Seems like a good deal for Rich. Gets to keep his role at NFLN and gets more distribution for his show
rockaction
Footballguy
Why do you choose to go to bed that way? That's like needing a drink of water and thinking that Chinese water torture sounds like it would hit the spot.
nirad3
Footballguy
Not only do I fall asleep with ESPN on, but it's on throughout the course of the night. I know, I have issues.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
ESPN must be so proud.
Of course, if anyone has seen McNutt talks sports, this shouldn't be surprising. She smacks of "she is only on ESPN because Stephen A. has her back"-itis. She is as bad as Kendrick Perkins.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Caught some of the clips of this including the comments about Stuart Scott. At least some one at ESPN is trying to bring back old magic.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
- YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
www.youtube.com
rockaction
Footballguy
Has anybody looked at their monstrosity of a website? It sucks. It’s not athletes or photos of sporting events. It’s a vertical array of video after video of their sports “personalities.” It’s not highlights or standings or stories or news. It’s Stephen A. Smith in an ugly freeze frame waiting for you to click so that he can yell the headlines of their ****ty corporate tie-in at you. It truly sucks, and I’d consider it the equivalent of the intellectual third world. It’s like Hotel Rwanda for sports fans.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
After a 30 second ad that is.
rockaction
Footballguy
You’re right and I laughed and then my jaw dropped a touch and went agape. I’m a little bit like a not-too-bright dog looking at it with wonder. “Wait, people are so numb that this is actually how they volunteer to spend their ‘free time’? What the hell does ESPN picture we would do with any compulsory time? The thought frightens me a bit.
mr. furley
Footballguy
they're going to put him in the ESPN washing machine like they do everyone else
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Stephen A. Smith is bright in many things but his football acumen is questionable, most of his views and opinions are rooted in his emotional feelings or attachment he makes with the player when they are drafted into the NFL. I didn't care for his take on Richardson as an example this week. He is so concerned about players and their ability to earn a living, he should focus more on the game plan set forth by the front offices and coaches and stop trying to make everything so emotional and making us worry about the player's livelihood,
it's not personal it's just business. except...
Sometimes it is personal in the NFL
This take on ESPN is 100% accurate, IMO. In short, ESPN (along with so many news and other media organizations) has learned that smart reporting and commentary doesn't sell, but outrage and stupid hot takes do.
slate.com
The Downfall of ESPN
It used to set the standard for sports news. Now it’s bro-friendly slop.
Todem
Footballguy
This is the world now......an utter clown show of hot takes and keyboard warriors.This take on ESPN is 100% accurate, IMO. In short, ESPN (along with so many news and other media organizations) has learned that smart reporting and commentary doesn't sell, but outrage and stupid hot takes do.
The Downfall of ESPN
It used to set the standard for sports news. Now it’s bro-friendly slop.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Except their stupid App (or whatever the new, even more expensive App is going to be
)is going to end up being the distribution platform for (at a minimum) a whole bunch of NFL, NHL, and MLB games. ESPN basically saved itself the past couple of months.
Todem
Footballguy
All the major sports will soon be fully behind paywalls save for Sunday NFL games on Fox, CBS and SNF on NBC. Everything else is a paywall.
I mean I have MLB Extra Innings as I watch baseball literally every night. You have all these packages etc so it's already been here.
I am just curious when the new deal comes up for the NFL how is the NFL not going to have a conflict of interest when they have a 10% stake in ESPN?
And yes ESPN will absolutely ruin Red Zone....just wait for it.......
I mean I have MLB Extra Innings as I watch baseball literally every night. You have all these packages etc so it's already been here.
I am just curious when the new deal comes up for the NFL how is the NFL not going to have a conflict of interest when they have a 10% stake in ESPN?
And yes ESPN will absolutely ruin Red Zone....just wait for it.......
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
They changed the FF app, too. The Cracker Barrell of fantasy football decision-making.
FiredMartz
Footballguy
Look at me......I'm standing around in a sexy dress with an iPad in my hand pointing at a screen....gimme a break already...
Sammy3469
Footballguy
The cynic in me says that very quaint. ESPN managed to thread the needle and protect itself since the leagues don't have critical mass on any distribution. All the other Peacock or Paramount or Amazon packages are just window dressing at this point to keep ESPN honest, but all the major leagues know everything is much better if one entity has major distro rights (see what is happened with the Bally's bankruptcy). At least the new App (provided it has local rights to the NHL, NBA, and MLB once they fully kick Bally's to the curb) may get me to totally get rid of cable.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
If this is referring to Erin Dolan... how dare you sir?
FiredMartz
Footballguy
sorry.....don't know any of their names ....I change the channel as soon as I see them
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Women?
