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There first rule of Fight CLub….What did my fav resident Libby do this time (and before I know, an understandable reply, but perhaps not "excellent")
There first rule of Fight CLub….What did my fav resident Libby do this time (and before I know, an understandable reply, but perhaps not "excellent")
Many people have said he prefers 26-30 Count because they make his hands look big. "But don't use that dipping stuff. It may look like ketchup, but it isn't."Don’t care what you say, Trump starts a buffet with the shrimp. You can write that down,
How is a Washington Post report from 1987 detailing Trump’s meeting with Politburo staff possibly propaganda in 2018?Usual deflection going on when propaganda is exposed. Some things never change.
Lol at facts and logic. There's a Russian agenda to implement, comrade.How is a Washington Post report from 1987 detailing Trump’s meeting with Politburo staff possibly propaganda in 2018?
If this isn't propaganda to you then you are further gone then I thoughtHow is a Washington Post report from 1987 detailing Trump’s meeting with Politburo staff possibly propaganda in 2018?
[buzzes in]There is literally one Western power whose leaders routinely stand before its people and lie daily. Want to guess who it is? And for extra credit, want to take a stab at the term for that?
???? This whole back and forth was starting from my comment on propaganda. I was referring to the one I just linked. How is your link relevant?Not what I asked, I’m referring to this.
I’m not sure of the answer, but whatever it is I hope we can at least protect those leaders right to peacefully enjoy high end farm-to-table cuisine. That’s what is really important.There is literally one Western power whose leaders routinely stand before its people and lie daily. Want to guess who it is? And for extra credit, want to take a stab at the term for that?
Because it’s a source for events described in that article.???? This whole back and forth was starting from my comment on propaganda. I was referring to the one I just linked. How is your link relevant?
That is one part from a pretty long propaganda article no?Because it’s a source for events described in that article.
You haven’t exposed any.Usual deflection going on when propaganda is exposed. Some things never change.
this is all going to end up being true, isn't it?Fascinating to see some of this laid out all in one place.
i am absolutely riveted by this whole story. it's like watching a complex prestige HBO drama except IRL. the big reveal at the end of season 2 is going to knock your socks off!NARRATOR: Yes
I think all we've suspected about Trump will be proven accurate and Mueller will probably drop a whole bunch of more bombs nobody knows about.i am absolutely riveted by this whole story. it's like watching a complex prestige HBO drama except IRL. the big reveal at the end of season 2 is going to knock your socks off!
who knows, but a lot of the implausible isn't all that implausible anymore.this is all going to end up being true, isn't it?
But even if it is entirely coincidental, we still have a guy who is literally aligned with Putin on things like NATO. That is stunning imo.“An open letter from Donald J. Trump on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves,” as Trump labeled it, launched angry populist charges against the allies that benefited from the umbrella of American military protection. “Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests?”
Trump’s letter avoided the question of whom the U.S. was protecting those countries from. The primary answer, of course, was the Soviet Union. After World War II, the U.S. had created a liberal international order and underwritten its safety by maintaining the world’s strongest military. A central goal of Soviet, and later Russian, foreign policy was to split the U.S. from its allies.
The safest assumption is that it’s entirely coincidental that Trump launched a national campaign, with himself as spokesman, built around themes that dovetailed closely with Soviet foreign-policy goals shortly after his Moscow stay. Indeed, it seems slightly insane to contemplate the possibility that a secret relationship between Trump and Russia dates back this far. But it can’t be dismissed completely. How do you even think about the small but real chance — 10 percent? 20 percent? — that the president of the United States has been covertly influenced or personally compromised by a hostile foreign power for decades?
And we know we had two willing parties on each side. We have hard evidence Trump's crew was very eager to work with the Russians.At that point, it would have been strange if Russia didn’t help Trump. After all, Russians covertly support allied politicians abroad all the time. Putin naturally sees intelligence work as central to foreign policy, and his foreign policy is fundamentally threatened by democratic, socially progressive Western Europe. During his tenure, Russia has formed overt or covert ties to right-wing parties in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Greece, and Bulgaria. France’s right-wing party received an $11 million loan from Russia; its counterparts in Bulgaria and Greece were alleged (but not proved) to have taken funding under the table, too. More often, Russians intermingle financial dealings with political subterfuge in a complex web that appears superficially legitimate.
That doesn't sound like Trump. The shrimp thing seemed more plausible.Trump kept eating carrots one more step over each new line he crossed.
Max Boot: "It really is striking, the degree of hostility Trump has for NATO and the EU."But even if it is entirely coincidental, we still have a guy who is literally aligned with Putin on things like NATO. That is stunning imo.
Our system has been going off course for a long time now. To much power rested in the hands of the executive branch, and then too much on the judicial - with the one body charged to actually write out laws having become an impotent bunch of self serving cowards.I think all we've suspected about Trump will be proven accurate and Mueller will probably drop a whole bunch of more bombs nobody knows about.
The question is - What will be done if/when it's proven Trump is a corrupt traitor? That's the great unknown. We have a Republican Party that is now Trump's Party and a feckless Congress and possibly a soon to be comprised SCOTUS. Lotta things working against our democracy at the moment.
I don't think McConnell would condemn Trump if he admitted to being a Russian spy.Is there anything he can do that McConnell and Ryan would condemn? Doesn’t look like it.
I’m being serious here Ham. Do they have no loyalty to NATO?Let’s take it easy on them. They’ve only been faced with rape and treason so far.
Trump could shoot McConnell's wife in the fact right in front of him and McConnell would blame the Democrats for not blocking the bullet.I don't think McConnell would condemn Trump if he admitted to being a Russian spy.
Tough but fair.Let’s take it easy on them. They’ve only been faced with rape and treason so far.
I know it’s a typo but I could see Trump trying to shoot a fact that he didn’t like.Trump could shoot McConnell's wife in the fact right in front of him and McConnell would blame the Democrats for not blocking the bullet.
Tough but fair.I don't think McConnell would condemn Trump if he admitted to being a Russian spy.
Tough but fair.Trump could shoot McConnell's wife in the face right in front of him and McConnell would blame the Democrats for not blocking the bullet.
Obviously McConnell would think it’s no big deal. Lone wolf shooter. Probably mentally ill. Not much the feds can even do about it.Trump could shoot McConnell's wife in the fact right in front of him and McConnell would blame the Democrats for not blocking the bullet.
I bet if you took "Louise Mensch conspiracy theory from 2016 becomes prophecy by 2018" you could have gotten whatever odds you wanted.We all laughed when Louise Mensch said the entire GOP was compromised by Russia.
It's still funny.
But not quite as much as before.
Oh, and Ron Johnson is a repugnant human.
Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1 56m56 minutes ago
Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, back from the congressional trip to Moscow, is suggesting that Congress went too far in punishing Russia for meddling in the 2016 election. "The election interference ... is not the greatest threat to our democracy."
OMFG these people"The election interference ... is not the greatest threat to our democracy."
I cannot like this enough. How this isn’t discussed more in general is fairly baffling. Now maybe it is nothing, but it is worth discussing certainly.I think you misunderstood the article. Its premise is that Trump took a hard pull to positions that favored Russian interests with a populist and divisive personae that emerged in 1987, in lockstep with a visit to Moscow. It is reasonable given the relationship with the Soviets that began that year, that one explanation is that something could have influenced him in that direction. Given a broader history of suspicious dealings he has lied about, and the fact the Soviet tradecraft relied on an asset knowing too late that they had crossed too many lines to safely return (and the fact that it tended to entrap the greedy, lascivious and egotistical), it’s a worthy topic of discussion when placed in context and with adequate caveats, which were given.
The enablers and collaborators who still support them, including pushing clear propaganda, are hardly much better. Traitors, all of them.OMFG these people
It's the only description left for them at this point.The enablers and collaborators who still support them, including pushing clear propaganda, are hardly much better. Traitors, all of them.
RUSSIAN FREAKIN' PROPOGANDA (I mean, RUSSIA - it still boggles my mind how many faux patriots are willing to allow this to happen to us.. by freakin Russia of all countries. The UnAmericans)
These are not the droids you're looking for.We all laughed when Louise Mensch said the entire GOP was compromised by Russia.
It's still funny.
But not quite as much as before.
Oh, and Ron Johnson is a repugnant human.
Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1 56m56 minutes ago
Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, back from the congressional trip to Moscow, is suggesting that Congress went too far in punishing Russia for meddling in the 2016 election. "The election interference ... is not the greatest threat to our democracy."
There are Republicans who think it'll be OK to not have a 2020 election if Trump says so.I mean who really needs free and fair elections?
Bunch of snowflakes.
Just setting it up for Trump to agree to remove the sanctions while they pretend it’s good for the country.We all laughed when Louise Mensch said the entire GOP was compromised by Russia.
It's still funny.
But not quite as much as before.
Oh, and Ron Johnson is a repugnant human.
Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1 56m56 minutes ago
Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, back from the congressional trip to Moscow, is suggesting that Congress went too far in punishing Russia for meddling in the 2016 election. "The election interference ... is not the greatest threat to our democracy."
There's no logical reason to believe the trip was about anything positive for our country.Would it shock anyone if it turned out the GOP delegation really went to Russia to explain what was going to happen if the Dems win bigly this fall? And, how, it might be in Russia's best interest to see that it does not happen?
My book/movie about these years will be titled "Traitors Among Us"It's the only description left for them at this point.