Not much to say coming off a cake matchup, he sucks as hard as ever and Donald Brown has a career day. Jebus, at this point give the starting job to Brown, send Richardson to fat camp and let's try it again next year.This thread is hilarious. The really sad thing is there is not much more to be said about the player or situation. It's a hot mess.
The threesome is the best thing he's done all year. Giggity
If doing 3 chicks at the same time makes you an idiot, all of us here would be brilliant.This guy is an idiot. Low IQ player.
just his luck to get traded to a team with an established stud rb already
tears of joyBest thread ever. It's brought so much joy to so many people.
53 total yards! Buy low, buy low!!!!Last night was his 1st double digit scoring game since the Jacksonville game in week 13 in my PPR league
Trending up?
I would have kept him on the end of my bench, but dumped him mostly because of Indy's brutal schedule down the stretch. The sample size is large enough now, and I really don't see any upside for him to turn it around heading into these upcoming matchups. Glad to see someone else blew 4 bucks on him, dumped Kendall Hunter who I scooped up to handcuff to Gore. :hawkscreech:jah77 said:I would if I still had him on my roster at this point. If you hold onto him he'll just be on your bench anyway (unless your desperate) so why not stash a bench player that could have a huge upside if things break the right way.At this point, would you be cutting him to pickup "high end" handcuffs? (Kendall Hunter, Bryce Brown, Toeby Gerhart)?
I can't argue with any of this, spot on.Richardson is the black hole that sucks the life out the Colts offense. Like an umbrella that rains on the inside. The Colts offense is so much better when he's catching a breather on the sideline. His absense is addition by subtraction to every Colts skill player's fantasy value.
You nailed it Angry Pat.I hadn't watched this guy much this year, not much to see... but he looks like he hops up, losing any aggressiveness/momentum, as he meets the first level. Then he's pretty much toast, play over. I mean a guy tackled him when he was on his back for God's sake!! Earl Campbell would've used the guys face as a launching point and probably broken a couple bones on the way through. I'm not so sure how good Donald Brown is (surely underrated) but TRich make DB look downright explosive, with good vision. Maybe TRich is terribly in need of contacts or color blind, or eat some Skittles, skip a meal, something.
Those are my thoughts.It looks to me like he doesn't trust what he's seeing. "Running to darkness" as someone put it. Brown knows where the hole is going to be, and he explodes through it. I don't think this is going to get any better this season, but I wouldn't bet against him after a full offseason and training camp.
What's puzzling to me is don't they coach the players to run to specific milestones, choreographing the line movement and splits, knowing where the cutback lanes are. We see it at home on our fat asses on the couch and this guy looks like he's completely lost as to making a split second decision in traffic. Like he needs to stop and think about it. Did the coaching make a mess of this guy, or did his mind become mush?It looks to me like he doesn't trust what he's seeing. "Running to darkness" as someone put it. Brown knows where the hole is going to be, and he explodes through it. I don't think this is going to get any better this season, but I wouldn't bet against him after a full offseason and training camp.
Some folks already comparing it the the deal the Vikings did back in 89 for Hershel Walker. Hilarious to hear the Colts front office still defending their side of the Richardson deal. They need to be more like Jerry Jones and just admit they goofed.I was so so wrong on Richardson, and also on my initial opinion of the trade. This could go down as one of the greatest transactions in NFL history by the Browns, irrespective of who they end up drafting. And even if it's a fairly late pick, I'd they strike gold and get a franchise player, it's the type of deal we'll be hearing about forever.
Oh god no.....this does not compare.Some folks already comparing it the the deal the Vikings did back in 89 for Hershel Walker. Hilarious to hear the Colts front office still defending their side of the Richardson deal. They need to be more like Jerry Jones and just admit they goofed.I was so so wrong on Richardson, and also on my initial opinion of the trade. This could go down as one of the greatest transactions in NFL history by the Browns, irrespective of who they end up drafting. And even if it's a fairly late pick, I'd they strike gold and get a franchise player, it's the type of deal we'll be hearing about forever.
It's only a late 1st. Look at how many late 1st's bust and consider that the Colts owe Richardson zero guaranteed money.Some folks already comparing it the the deal the Vikings did back in 89 for Hershel Walker. Hilarious to hear the Colts front office still defending their side of the Richardson deal. They need to be more like Jerry Jones and just admit they goofed.I was so so wrong on Richardson, and also on my initial opinion of the trade. This could go down as one of the greatest transactions in NFL history by the Browns, irrespective of who they end up drafting. And even if it's a fairly late pick, I'd they strike gold and get a franchise player, it's the type of deal we'll be hearing about forever.
No, it won't come close. The Cowboys gave up two firsts for Joey Galloway, and a 1st and 3rd for Roy Williams - just off the top of my head - and those deals won't even be remembered.This could go down as one of the greatest transactions in NFL history by the Browns...
No, it won't come close. The Cowboys gave up two firsts for Joey Galloway, and a 1st and 3rd for Roy Williams - just off the top of my head - and those deals won't even be remembered.This could go down as one of the greatest transactions in NFL history by the Browns...
I don't even think it's as bad as the Kolb deal, considering the money the Cards shelled out.
Not a huge deal, but did his contract get changed with the trade? His rookie contract with Cleveland was fully guaranteed.No, it won't come close. The Cowboys gave up two firsts for Joey Galloway, and a 1st and 3rd for Roy Williams - just off the top of my head - and those deals won't even be remembered.This could go down as one of the greatest transactions in NFL history by the Browns...
I don't even think it's as bad as the Kolb deal, considering the money the Cards shelled out.
A trade like this comes down to the money. Had they given up a 1st and owed him a lot of money it would be a bad trade, but they are only paying him $2.3M and $3.2M the next two years, non-guaranteed.
Well, Cleveland already paid the guaranteed signing bonus themselves. It's just spread out over the cap for book-keeping purposes, the only real world money that's left is the salary that Indy now has to pay.Not a huge deal, but did his contract get changed with the trade? His rookie contract with Cleveland was fully guaranteed.No, it won't come close. The Cowboys gave up two firsts for Joey Galloway, and a 1st and 3rd for Roy Williams - just off the top of my head - and those deals won't even be remembered.This could go down as one of the greatest transactions in NFL history by the Browns...
I don't even think it's as bad as the Kolb deal, considering the money the Cards shelled out.
A trade like this comes down to the money. Had they given up a 1st and owed him a lot of money it would be a bad trade, but they are only paying him $2.3M and $3.2M the next two years, non-guaranteed.
Yes, but it wasn't just the signing bonus- the entire contract was guaranteed.ConnSKINS26 said:Well, Cleveland already paid the guaranteed signing bonus themselves. It's just spread out over the cap for book-keeping purposes, the only real world money that's left is the salary that Indy now has to pay.humpback said:Not a huge deal, but did his contract get changed with the trade? His rookie contract with Cleveland was fully guaranteed.cstu said:Concept Coop said:No, it won't come close. The Cowboys gave up two firsts for Joey Galloway, and a 1st and 3rd for Roy Williams - just off the top of my head - and those deals won't even be remembered.RUSF18 said:This could go down as one of the greatest transactions in NFL history by the Browns...
I don't even think it's as bad as the Kolb deal, considering the money the Cards shelled out.
A trade like this comes down to the money. Had they given up a 1st and owed him a lot of money it would be a bad trade, but they are only paying him $2.3M and $3.2M the next two years, non-guaranteed.
There's NEVER room to run when Trent carries. There's ALWAYS room to run when Brown carries.In the eight games since the Colts shipped a first-round draft pick to Cleveland for running back Trent Richardson, they’ve gotten a whopping 96 carries for 272 yards worth of production out of him. Does that sound like it’s worth a first-round pick to you?
Colts coach Chuck Pagano admits that 2.8 yards a carry isn’t what he was hoping for from Richardson, but Pagano claims that Richardson isn’t doing anything wrong. Instead, Pagano thinks Richardson has just had some bad luck, although Pagano can’t quite explain why it keeps happening.
“I don’t know if he’s snake bit, I don’t know what the heck is going on,” Pagano said. “We’ll get it fixed. We’ll get the holes there. He’s making the right reads, he’s doing all the right things, he knows what to do. He played great without the ball, protection-wise, those things. His numbers are going to come. I’m not concerned about that.”
Pagano said that Richardson hasn’t always had holes to run through, and you can’t blame him for that.
“You look at Trent’s runs, for whatever reason, there’s penetration, a guy is pulling and falls down,” Pagano said. “There’s a guy in the backfield waiting there. He had some really good runs, plays that he made in space, screens, things like that he does a great job with. That’s going to come.”
Asked if the Colts have any buyer’s remorse for the Richardson trade, Pagano answered, “Absolutely not.” That’s a little hard to believe, as it becomes clearer and clearer that they’ve given up next year’s first-round pick for a running back who isn’t as good as the one they already had on the roster, Donald Brown.
Keenan Allen, are you ####### serious? That's a HR for a Trent owner. I would run to do that dealWould dealing him for a guy like Hakeem Nicks or Keenan Allen be selling low in dynasty?
It is an interesting comment from Pagano... do you think it's just "coach speak" and publicly handling T-Rich with kid gloves, or is he hinting (maybe thinking) that the guys up front play hard for Brown, but not so much for Richardson?PFT:
There's NEVER room to run when Trent carries. There's ALWAYS room to run when Brown carries.In the eight games since the Colts shipped a first-round draft pick to Cleveland for running back Trent Richardson, they’ve gotten a whopping 96 carries for 272 yards worth of production out of him. Does that sound like it’s worth a first-round pick to you?Colts coach Chuck Pagano admits that 2.8 yards a carry isn’t what he was hoping for from Richardson, but Pagano claims that Richardson isn’t doing anything wrong. Instead, Pagano thinks Richardson has just had some bad luck, although Pagano can’t quite explain why it keeps happening.
“I don’t know if he’s snake bit, I don’t know what the heck is going on,” Pagano said. “We’ll get it fixed. We’ll get the holes there. He’s making the right reads, he’s doing all the right things, he knows what to do. He played great without the ball, protection-wise, those things. His numbers are going to come. I’m not concerned about that.”
Pagano said that Richardson hasn’t always had holes to run through, and you can’t blame him for that.
“You look at Trent’s runs, for whatever reason, there’s penetration, a guy is pulling and falls down,” Pagano said. “There’s a guy in the backfield waiting there. He had some really good runs, plays that he made in space, screens, things like that he does a great job with. That’s going to come.”
Asked if the Colts have any buyer’s remorse for the Richardson trade, Pagano answered, “Absolutely not.” That’s a little hard to believe, as it becomes clearer and clearer that they’ve given up next year’s first-round pick for a running back who isn’t as good as the one they already had on the roster, Donald Brown.
Yeah, just bad luck.
I don't think its simple coach speak.It is an interesting comment from Pagano... do you think it's just "coach speak" and publicly handling T-Rich with kid gloves, or is he hinting (maybe thinking) that the guys up front play hard for Brown, but not so much for Richardson?PFT:
There's NEVER room to run when Trent carries. There's ALWAYS room to run when Brown carries.In the eight games since the Colts shipped a first-round draft pick to Cleveland for running back Trent Richardson, they’ve gotten a whopping 96 carries for 272 yards worth of production out of him. Does that sound like it’s worth a first-round pick to you?Colts coach Chuck Pagano admits that 2.8 yards a carry isn’t what he was hoping for from Richardson, but Pagano claims that Richardson isn’t doing anything wrong. Instead, Pagano thinks Richardson has just had some bad luck, although Pagano can’t quite explain why it keeps happening.
“I don’t know if he’s snake bit, I don’t know what the heck is going on,” Pagano said. “We’ll get it fixed. We’ll get the holes there. He’s making the right reads, he’s doing all the right things, he knows what to do. He played great without the ball, protection-wise, those things. His numbers are going to come. I’m not concerned about that.”
Pagano said that Richardson hasn’t always had holes to run through, and you can’t blame him for that.
“You look at Trent’s runs, for whatever reason, there’s penetration, a guy is pulling and falls down,” Pagano said. “There’s a guy in the backfield waiting there. He had some really good runs, plays that he made in space, screens, things like that he does a great job with. That’s going to come.”
Asked if the Colts have any buyer’s remorse for the Richardson trade, Pagano answered, “Absolutely not.” That’s a little hard to believe, as it becomes clearer and clearer that they’ve given up next year’s first-round pick for a running back who isn’t as good as the one they already had on the roster, Donald Brown.
Yeah, just bad luck.
It did look a little Tecmo Bowlish on Thursday night. Maybe the play is an easier read for the defense when Brown's not in there?
Averaging 34 yards per game, which puts him behind the likes of Christine Michael, Rashad Jennings, Lamar Miller, Mike James, and Peyton Hillis.Almost as many rushing yards as Russell Wilson.