The Trent Richardson Thread (2 Viewers)

[jurb26]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

True, but 3.3 YPC still sucks, especially when you consider they have played defenses that rank 12, 26, 22 and 25 in rushing defense.

That's somewhat the point I'm trying to make. 3.3 is bad enough. We don't need to embellish it at all. Not that I'm a fan of EVER taking away anyone's big play(s). Big plays are part of football. Taking them away is silly IMO. Like I said I think we know what TRich is at this point. A compiler. I don't really care that he's perhaps one of the worst starting RBs in the NFL. He's still getting an opportunity to compile those stats and he was cheap.

 

[humpback]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

It is silly, but the fanboys do the same thing the other way.

 

[georg013]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

It is silly, but the fanboys do the same thing the other way.

How is that even possible with TRich? Isn't every run of his only 2 yards?

"Take away all 20 of TRich's 2 yard gains and he is averaging 27 yards per carry."

Sorry bro, that was a reach.

 

[mnmplayer]

I think that Lacy and Trent are both the kinds of backs than can be successful in an offense that blocks well. If either were playing for Dallas they would probably be doing just fine. Trent is on a bad run blocking team that requires a RB to make hay on their own, which is why Bradshaw is doing better with the same line, which is probably why we see some signs of life from Trent when catching passes in the open field where he has time to build up some speed. I saw a couple plays last week where he made an open field tackler miss and gained some yards after a catch. I also saw him juke 3 guys on another play, of course he worked his way back to the line of scrimmage for no gain because he had to avoid 3 guys in the backfield. He is getting hit behind the line of scrimmage a lot this year. His jukes are not setting up gains because he usually jukes then pauses, jukes then pauses and defenders are closing on him from distance even if he makes on miss. I also think he goes down too easy on contact, partially because he trys to avoid contact instead of using his power/leverage to run through it. I think if he changed his style to less juking and more stiff arm/power/spin/forward attack he would increase his ypc. He seems more suited to a role where he makes one cut and goes and leave the juking to Bradshaw. He still has time to learn this. The same goes for Lacy. These guys have the skills to juke a guy, but while they juke the one defender, 3 more are closing on them. Then need to just power throw tackles and keep their speed up, than slow down to avoid tackles.

I also saw a few good runs in his rookie year for TDs and he did more of this. IND is not the ideal spot for him, but he could be more productive with a different style.

 

[humpback]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

It is silly, but the fanboys do the same thing the other way.

How is that even possible with TRich? Isn't every run of his only 2 yards?

"Take away all 20 of TRich's 2 yard gains and he is averaging 27 yards per carry."

Sorry bro, that was a reach.

Are you saying that people in here haven't argued that his ypc is so low because he gets so many short yardage carries, carries in obvious run situations, against a stacked box, etc?

 

[werdnoynek]

 

[football_genus]

Wait, there are still people who think Trent Richardson is a good NFL running back?

 

[georg013]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

It is silly, but the fanboys do the same thing the other way.

How is that even possible with TRich? Isn't every run of his only 2 yards?

"Take away all 20 of TRich's 2 yard gains and he is averaging 27 yards per carry."

Sorry bro, that was a reach.

Are you saying that people in here haven't argued that his ypc is so low because he gets so many short yardage carries, carries in obvious run situations, against a stacked box, etc?

Much different than removing carries from the equation. Nice try though. People have argued that his use has been limited to short yardage situations. I'm not taking a stand on the matter one way or the other, I've washed my hands of the guy. But to sit here and act like the two are the same thing is grasping at straws. Data manipulation, to prove a point, is one thing. Blaming ineffectiveness on usage is another.

 

[Bronco Billy]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

When they are so infrequent as to be an outlier, it's completely reasonable, and quite frankly rational, to do so.

 

[th3f00l]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

When they are so infrequent as to be an outlier, it's completely reasonable, and quite frankly rational, to do so.

Then take out the 1 yard runs in goal line & 1 yd situations. Stats are stats. Use them appropriately or the Statinator will eat your family.

** Not a Richardson Supporter **

 

[humpback]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

It is silly, but the fanboys do the same thing the other way.

How is that even possible with TRich? Isn't every run of his only 2 yards?

"Take away all 20 of TRich's 2 yard gains and he is averaging 27 yards per carry."

Sorry bro, that was a reach.

Are you saying that people in here haven't argued that his ypc is so low because he gets so many short yardage carries, carries in obvious run situations, against a stacked box, etc?

Much different than removing carries from the equation. Nice try though. People have argued that his use has been limited to short yardage situations. I'm not taking a stand on the matter one way or the other, I've washed my hands of the guy. But to sit here and act like the two are the same thing is grasping at straws. Data manipulation, to prove a point, is one thing. Blaming ineffectiveness on usage is another.

He didn't say it doesn't count and should be taken out. He first gave his current ypc, then showed that it would be even worse if you removed 1 run from it.

Like I said, I think it's silly for the most part, but it's just as silly to say his ypc would be higher if he didn't get so many short yardage carries (or if he had better blocking, ran more on passing downs, or any of the other excuses). You might as well say "his ypc would be higher/lower if he ran for more/fewer yards per carry". Well, no ####, but he's not.

 

[jurb26]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

When they are so infrequent as to be an outlier, it's completely reasonable, and quite frankly rational, to do so.

Every player in the leagues biggest play is by definition an outlier.

 

[cstu]

Are you saying that people in here haven't argued that his ypc is so low because he gets so many short yardage carries, carries in obvious run situations, against a stacked box, etc?

I did this search: RB's from 2002-2014 with at least 200 carries on 1st-3rd downs between the 20's with 5 or more yards to go:

Search came up with 132 RB's...here are the bottom five in YPA:

        NAME 	        POS 	YRs 	        RSH 	RSHYD 	YD/RSH 	FD 	RSHTD 	TARG 	REC 	RECYD 	YD/REC 	FD 	RECTD 	FANT PT128	Anthony Thomas	rb	2002--2007	461	1741	3.7766	37	1	97	67	479	7.1493	14	0	228.0000129	Nick Goings	rb	2002--2008	210	793	3.7762	23	0	105	76	600	7.8947	23	0	139.3000130	TrentRichardson	rb	2012--2014	310	1146	3.6968	21	2	91	67	597	8.9104	23	1	192.3000131	Eddie George	rb	2002--2004	473	1739	3.6765	44	0	72	53	384	7.2453	14	0	212.3000132	Jonathan Wells	rb	2002--2005	233	779	3.3433	16	0	36	29	211	7.2759	7	0	99.0000

 

[stbugs]

I think that Lacy and Trent are both the kinds of backs than can be successful in an offense that blocks well. If either were playing for Dallas they would probably be doing just fine. Trent is on a bad run blocking team that requires a RB to make hay on their own, which is why Bradshaw is doing better with the same line, which is probably why we see some signs of life from Trent when catching passes in the open field where he has time to build up some speed. I saw a couple plays last week where he made an open field tackler miss and gained some yards after a catch. I also saw him juke 3 guys on another play, of course he worked his way back to the line of scrimmage for no gain because he had to avoid 3 guys in the backfield. He is getting hit behind the line of scrimmage a lot this year. His jukes are not setting up gains because he usually jukes then pauses, jukes then pauses and defenders are closing on him from distance even if he makes on miss. I also think he goes down too easy on contact, partially because he trys to avoid contact instead of using his power/leverage to run through it. I think if he changed his style to less juking and more stiff arm/power/spin/forward attack he would increase his ypc. He seems more suited to a role where he makes one cut and goes and leave the juking to Bradshaw. He still has time to learn this. The same goes for Lacy. These guys have the skills to juke a guy, but while they juke the one defender, 3 more are closing on them. Then need to just power throw tackles and keep their speed up, than slow down to avoid tackles.

I also saw a few good runs in his rookie year for TDs and he did more of this. IND is not the ideal spot for him, but he could be more productive with a different style.

Last year all other Colts RBs, in more carries than TRich, averaged 5.0 ypc (second only to Philly's 5.1) and this year Bradshaw is averaging 5.4 ypc. We continue to get more and more data each week that other RBs thrive with Luck. No DC is worried about TRich at all and they weren't worried about him last year.

Even if TRich was in Dallas this year, he would probably be mediocre and Murray would be lighting it up in Indy. Murray is just plain better. It still boggles my mind that having Luck as his QB and coaches who continue to say they want to run, run, run is a bad situation. Almost comical, any good RB would thrive in Indy.

 

[Jrodicus]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

When you hate a guy and you want to prove a point (by manipulating the data), you do that. All of the complaining about TRich's longest run being 8 yards and the guy wants to take the 27 yarder away (which, by the way, is more rare than Alexandrite). Damn.

I'll do it with any player. It's not 'taking it away' but it's useful to look at the data with an outlier.

I tried doing that with Brown's stats from last year...about 40 pages ago...and I got blasted for it by a number of people:

Brown had a higher YPC, but he also had runs of 51, 50, 43 yards that were out of packages that Trent wasn't used in. If you take out just those 3 runs, (he had some other big plays from the same sets), Brown's YPC drops to 3.9 instead of 5.3.

 

[gump]

I traded him today for RB 19 value...so at least in my league, he's being judged on current numbers.

 

[Jrodicus]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

True, but 3.3 YPC still sucks, especially when you consider they have played defenses that rank 12, 26, 22 and 25 in rushing defense.

Eh, those ranks are based on total rushing yards given up, not YPC. Based on YPC, they rank 12, 14, 16, and 11. Not top-tier, but all in the top 1/2 of the league.

They also don't account for bye weeks (Cinci is top 10 in yards given up, but 29th in YPC @ 5.1).

Not saying that means Richardson is good...just that I don't think the run D's have been as bad as you might think.

 

[mnmplayer]

I agree Murray is an outstanding RB, he's actually on my team. He has the most yards before and after contact this season which means he is the ultimate back in the ultimate situation (if he can stay healthy which I think he can since he isnt taking a beating on his carries). There is no way Trich has the speed that Murray has to up his YPC to the 5.0+ area like Murray. That is elite territory, but I am saying he could maintain decent stats in the 4.0 area like Lacy did last year in the right situation. He is a bust where he was drafted in the NFL, but could be serviceable in the right situation, and where he was drafted in fantasy has value. Minn would be another example of a good fit I think. I would guess TRich could outperform Asiata in that offense, or at least match it and Asiata (undrafted) has been a RB1 the past three weeks as the starter.

Bradshaw is a better fit as would be a sproles/forsett type back. A back that works in the shotgun using more quickness than power. I believe Lacy would have similar results in Colts offense.

 

[Jrodicus]

Are you saying that people in here haven't argued that his ypc is so low because he gets so many short yardage carries, carries in obvious run situations, against a stacked box, etc?

I did this search: RB's from 2002-2014 with at least 200 carries on 1st-3rd downs between the 20's with 5 or more yards to go:

Search came up with 132 RB's...here are the bottom five in YPA:

NAME POS YRs RSH RSHYD YD/RSH FD RSHTD TARG REC RECYD YD/REC FD RECTD FANT PT128 Anthony Thomas rb 2002--2007 461 1741 3.7766 37 1 97 67 479 7.1493 14 0 228.0000129 Nick Goings rb 2002--2008 210 793 3.7762 23 0 105 76 600 7.8947 23 0 139.3000130 TrentRichardson rb 2012--2014 310 1146 3.6968 21 2 91 67 597 8.9104 23 1 192.3000131 Eddie George rb 2002--2004 473 1739 3.6765 44 0 72 53 384 7.2453 14 0 212.3000132 Jonathan Wells rb 2002--2005 233 779 3.3433 16 0 36 29 211 7.2759 7 0 99.0000

I don't think anyone has said the he has gotten ONLY short-yardage carries....just that he gets a lot them (at least relative to the other RBs on his team).

 

[Jrodicus]

Richardson actually has gotten quite a few more carries than Bradshaw in the red zone this year...but that may be because he's only getting 1.3 YPC.

 

[football_genus]

I don't think anyone has said the he has gotten ONLY short-yardage carries....just that he gets a lot them (at least relative to the other RBs on his team).

And accounting for situation, he's performed worse than almost every other running back in the league, every year of his career.

By contrast, Ingram had a fairly low (3.9) YPC the first two years of his career, but graded out decently by stats that account for down and distance.

 

[georg013]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

It is silly, but the fanboys do the same thing the other way.

How is that even possible with TRich? Isn't every run of his only 2 yards?

"Take away all 20 of TRich's 2 yard gains and he is averaging 27 yards per carry."

Sorry bro, that was a reach.

Are you saying that people in here haven't argued that his ypc is so low because he gets so many short yardage carries, carries in obvious run situations, against a stacked box, etc?

Much different than removing carries from the equation. Nice try though. People have argued that his use has been limited to short yardage situations. I'm not taking a stand on the matter one way or the other, I've washed my hands of the guy. But to sit here and act like the two are the same thing is grasping at straws. Data manipulation, to prove a point, is one thing. Blaming ineffectiveness on usage is another.

He didn't say it doesn't count and should be taken out. He first gave his current ypc, then showed that it would be even worse if you removed 1 run from it.

Like I said, I think it's silly for the most part, but it's just as silly to say his ypc would be higher if he didn't get so many short yardage carries (or if he had better blocking, ran more on passing downs, or any of the other excuses). You might as well say "his ypc would be higher/lower if he ran for more/fewer yards per carry". Well, no ####, but he's not.

I think we can both agree that he is what he is. Good (27 yard carry) and bad (all the rest).

 

[Otis]

In my fantasy league you don't get credit for a player's longest play of a game. Really sucks on those long bomb TDs.

 

[Klimtology]

What does everyone think of TRich vs. Bradshaw for the rest of the season?

 

[Jrodicus]

What does everyone think of TRich vs. Bradshaw for the rest of the season?

Bradshaw is more involved in the passing game...and 3rd down...and short yardage. Unless that changes (or he gets hurt), he's the guy to own right now.

 

[Bronco Billy]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

When they are so infrequent as to be an outlier, it's completely reasonable, and quite frankly rational, to do so.

Every player in the leagues biggest play is by definition an outlier.

That's obviously untrue, but I understand that you're going to pretty much redefine almost anything you need to in order to make a defense for Richardson...

 

[need2know]

Bradshaw about to outscore trich for the 4th time in 5 games. The past 2 games his usage was down due to blowouts. I think he gets more touches than usual vs a good bal def

 

[RBM]

What does everyone think of TRich vs. Bradshaw for the rest of the season?

Bradshaw is more involved in the passing game...and 3rd down...and short yardage. Unless that changes (or he gets hurt), he's the guy to own right now.

Yup. Receiving td in all four games. Amazing stat.

 

[Jrodicus]

Bradshaw about to outscore trich for the 4th time in 5 games. The past 2 games his usage was down due to blowouts. I think he gets more touches than usual vs a good bal def

I dunno....before the Colts went up 17-0, Bradshaw had 5 touches to Richardson's 10. At least last week, it looked like they were making a point of getting Richardson involved early. Don't forget, Bradshaw's TD came in the 4th quarter when they were already up 34-17.

I agree that Bradshaw is the safer bet for a solid game, but Richardson could outscore him based on volume alone.

 

[Otis]

Richardson is going to have a surprisingly good season when it's all said and done. It will make this thread fun.

 

[need2know]

Bradshaw about to outscore trich for the 4th time in 5 games. The past 2 games his usage was down due to blowouts. I think he gets more touches than usual vs a good bal def

I dunno....before the Colts went up 17-0, Bradshaw had 5 touches to Richardson's 10. At least last week, it looked like they were making a point of getting Richardson involved early. Don't forget, Bradshaw's TD came in the 4th quarter when they were already up 34-17.

I agree that Bradshaw is the safer bet for a solid game, but Richardson could outscore him based on volume alone.

We will see what happens when they are trailing. I think they knew even trich could run vs jax and tenn. Bal will be different

 

[FF Ninja]

Bradshaw about to outscore trich for the 4th time in 5 games. The past 2 games his usage was down due to blowouts. I think he gets more touches than usual vs a good bal def

I dunno....before the Colts went up 17-0, Bradshaw had 5 touches to Richardson's 10. At least last week, it looked like they were making a point of getting Richardson involved early. Don't forget, Bradshaw's TD came in the 4th quarter when they were already up 34-17.

I agree that Bradshaw is the safer bet for a solid game, but Richardson could outscore him based on volume alone.

We will see what happens when they are trailing. I think they knew even trich could run vs jax and tenn. Bal will be different

You have consistently sounded like a desperate Bradshaw owner in this thread. Personally, I don't really care about this situation as I'm not invested, but I find it interesting to watch. I think we all know that Bradshaw isn't going to play 16 games, so might as well stop being so optimistic about Bradshaw stealing the job completely and saving your season. I like Bradshaw as a player, but his feet just can't hold up. He is a perfect sell high candidate right now.

I really agree with the Lacy/Richardson comparison I've seen mentioned in here. I'm not sure the blocking is ever going to get better this season, so Richardson won't likely be cracking 4 ypc by the end of the year, but when Bradshaw misses time, Richardson stands to profit handily since he's actually been very productive as a pass catcher. Even last year, he was forcing a lot of missed tackles in the passing game. I don't have grand visions of Richardson living up to his draft pick, but I think he's a nice trade target this year as a cheap RB2. I might pursue him after the Baltimore game if he has a bad stat line. Goal line carries + targets = points. 3 ypc vs 4 ypc is negligible since rushing yards are not where his value is.

 

[need2know]

Bradshaw about to outscore trich for the 4th time in 5 games. The past 2 games his usage was down due to blowouts. I think he gets more touches than usual vs a good bal def

I dunno....before the Colts went up 17-0, Bradshaw had 5 touches to Richardson's 10. At least last week, it looked like they were making a point of getting Richardson involved early. Don't forget, Bradshaw's TD came in the 4th quarter when they were already up 34-17.

I agree that Bradshaw is the safer bet for a solid game, but Richardson could outscore him based on volume alone.

We will see what happens when they are trailing. I think they knew even trich could run vs jax and tenn. Bal will be different

You have consistently sounded like a desperate Bradshaw owner in this thread. Personally, I don't really care about this situation as I'm not invested, but I find it interesting to watch. I think we all know that Bradshaw isn't going to play 16 games, so might as well stop being so optimistic about Bradshaw stealing the job completely and saving your season. I like Bradshaw as a player, but his feet just can't hold up. He is a perfect sell high candidate right now.

I really agree with the Lacy/Richardson comparison I've seen mentioned in here. I'm not sure the blocking is ever going to get better this season, so Richardson won't likely be cracking 4 ypc by the end of the year, but when Bradshaw misses time, Richardson stands to profit handily since he's actually been very productive as a pass catcher. Even last year, he was forcing a lot of missed tackles in the passing game. I don't have grand visions of Richardson living up to his draft pick, but I think he's a nice trade target this year as a cheap RB2. I might pursue him after the Baltimore game if he has a bad stat line. Goal line carries + targets = points. 3 ypc vs 4 ypc is negligible since rushing yards are not where his value is.

Don't need him to save my season. Just calling it like I see it. Wouldnt it be something if bradshaw played all 16? Its certainly possible, but it seems you have already ruled that possibilty out.

 

[jurb26]

Bradshaw about to outscore trich for the 4th time in 5 games. The past 2 games his usage was down due to blowouts. I think he gets more touches than usual vs a good bal def

I dunno....before the Colts went up 17-0, Bradshaw had 5 touches to Richardson's 10. At least last week, it looked like they were making a point of getting Richardson involved early. Don't forget, Bradshaw's TD came in the 4th quarter when they were already up 34-17.

I agree that Bradshaw is the safer bet for a solid game, but Richardson could outscore him based on volume alone.

We will see what happens when they are trailing. I think they knew even trich could run vs jax and tenn. Bal will be different

You have consistently sounded like a desperate Bradshaw owner in this thread. Personally, I don't really care about this situation as I'm not invested, but I find it interesting to watch. I think we all know that Bradshaw isn't going to play 16 games, so might as well stop being so optimistic about Bradshaw stealing the job completely and saving your season. I like Bradshaw as a player, but his feet just can't hold up. He is a perfect sell high candidate right now.

I really agree with the Lacy/Richardson comparison I've seen mentioned in here. I'm not sure the blocking is ever going to get better this season, so Richardson won't likely be cracking 4 ypc by the end of the year, but when Bradshaw misses time, Richardson stands to profit handily since he's actually been very productive as a pass catcher. Even last year, he was forcing a lot of missed tackles in the passing game. I don't have grand visions of Richardson living up to his draft pick, but I think he's a nice trade target this year as a cheap RB2. I might pursue him after the Baltimore game if he has a bad stat line. Goal line carries + targets = points. 3 ypc vs 4 ypc is negligible since rushing yards are not where his value is.

Don't need him to save my season. Just calling it like I see it. Wouldnt it be something if bradshaw played all 16? Its certainly possible, but it seems you have already ruled that possibilty out.

It doesn't matter if he plays all 16 or not. Richardson is still going to be the starter and he will still be the 2nd back in and 3rd down option. He's had a ton of value doing that to this point so if you own him just hope that efficiency is maintained IMO.

 

[humpback]

It doesn't matter if he plays all 16 or not. Richardson is still going to be the starter and he will still be the 2nd back in and 3rd down option. He's had a ton of value doing that to this point so if you own him just hope that efficiency is maintained IMO.

 

[voiceofunreason]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

When they are so infrequent as to be an outlier, it's completely reasonable, and quite frankly rational, to do so.

Every player in the leagues biggest play is by definition an outlier.

For almost any player in the league, a 20 yard run isn't an outlier. It is with Richardson.

 

[jurb26]

It doesn't matter if he plays all 16 or not. Richardson is still going to be the starter and he will still be the 2nd back in and 3rd down option. He's had a ton of value doing that to this point so if you own him just hope that efficiency is maintained IMO.

Bradshaw is like RB5 right now.

 

[jurb26]

It's still pretty simple for me - 3.3 YPC

Without that 27 yard run he's at 2.7 YPC on 60 carries.

Why do this? He had a 27 yd run. You don't get to take it away to embellish a point.

When they are so infrequent as to be an outlier, it's completely reasonable, and quite frankly rational, to do so.

Every player in the leagues biggest play is by definition an outlier.

For almost any player in the league, a 20 yard run isn't an outlier. It is with Richardson.

Yeah eccept it was a 27 yarder not 20. The embellishing continues.

 

[humpback]

It doesn't matter if he plays all 16 or not. Richardson is still going to be the starter and he will still be the 2nd back in and 3rd down option. He's had a ton of value doing that to this point so if you own him just hope that efficiency is maintained IMO.

Bradshaw is like RB5 right now.

Lol, it looked to me like you were talking about Richardson.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It doesn't matter if he plays all 16 or not. Richardson is still going to be the starter and he will still be the 2nd back in and 3rd down option. He's had a ton of value doing that to this point so if you own him just hope that efficiency is maintained IMO.

"He" = Bradshaw

 

[cstu]

When they are so infrequent as to be an outlier, it's completely reasonable, and quite frankly rational, to do so.

Every player in the leagues biggest play is by definition an outlier.

For almost any player in the league, a 20 yard run isn't an outlier. It is with Richardson.

Yeah eccept it was a 27 yarder not 20. The embellishing continues.

The runs of 20+ in his 516 career career are 32, 27, 26, and 22.

Less than 1% of his runs have been for 20 yards or more.

 

[jurb26]

What are the long runs for the top 20 rushers this year?

 

[cstu]

What are the long runs for the top 20 rushers this year?

Here's the number of 20+ yard carries by the top 10:

Murray - 5/99 (44)

Bell - 3/72 (81)

Jennings - 0/81 (18)

K. Davis - 3/71 (48)

Morris - 3/71 (23)

L.Miller - 4/49 (24)

Ivory - 1/50 (71)

Lacy - 1/66 (29)

Gore - 2/59 (28)

Forte - 0/65 (19)

Richardson - 1/61 (27)

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Richardson is going to have a surprisingly good season when it's all said and done. It will make this thread fun.

this thread's been fun for 80 pages -- where've you been?

 

[humpback]

It doesn't matter if he plays all 16 or not. Richardson is still going to be the starter and he will still be the 2nd back in and 3rd down option. He's had a ton of value doing that to this point so if you own him just hope that efficiency is maintained IMO.

"He" = Bradshaw

Keep reading...

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

fearless forecast:

10 carries 20 yards

 

[Clifford]

Richardson, average ppg, is ahead of Montee Ball, LeSean McCoy, Zach Stacy, Reggie Bush, and Eddie Lacy (HP Scoring).

 

[jurb26]

What are the long runs for the top 20 rushers this year?

Here's the number of 20+ yard carries by the top 10:

Murray - 5/99

Bell - 3/72

Jennings - 0/81

K. Davis - 3/71

Morris - 3/71

L.Miller - 4/49

Ivory - 1/50

Lacy - 1/66

Gore - 2/59

Forte - 0/65

Richardson - 1/61

That wasn't the question and you know it.

 

[Dave Stauff]

Forte - 0/65

Richardson - 1/61

"So you mean there's a chance"

 

[cstu]

That wasn't the question and you know it.

Updated it for you.