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Indeed..the last few episodes really take care of answering any question or plotline that is chronologically feasible (i.e., political stuff/elections and a couple other things remain undetermined), but almost every character's situation is displayed and you see where theyll be ending up next/what theyll be doingI cant believe how they dealt with Dukie's story, but in all liklihood, thats the brutal truth to how it would be in real life.
I will start season 4 tonight.
I watched episode 1 season 4 last night. I understood the gangster girl bought a nail gun but I only understood about 20% of what she said to the salesman. I think the salesman only understood 10%I've had to rewind and turn them on before to make sure I understood something.My in-laws are watching it with subtitles
There were times where a phrase was used that even if I heard it correctly, I wouldn't have known what it meant.
You earned that buck like a mother####er keep that ####. :X http://anthonytshering.blogspot.com/2008/1...s-nail-gun.htmlI watched episode 1 season 4 last night. I understood the gangster girl bought a nail gun but I only understood about 20% of what she said to the salesman. I think the salesman only understood 10%I've had to rewind and turn them on before to make sure I understood something.My in-laws are watching it with subtitles
For me, one of the reasons this is the best cop drama ever is that I've seen a lot of TV cop shows - and most of them stink. Even good cop shows are often very unrealistic. The Wire gets big points from me for focusing on dialogue and characters - as opposed to car chases and gun fights.
it seems to me that it was written for an entire season rather than episodic. the episodes don't build to the kind of climaxes that other conventional shows do. things happen and, yes, episodes conclude but it doesn't ever really "end". it's an ongoing narrative.jdoggydogg said:
Just shocking.
Bro... You gotta toss this stuff in Spoiler tags. Wouldn't want to ruin it for the folks who still havn't caught on and may wander into this thread.The brutality of this show really gets to me at times. I just watched season 4 episode 10.
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Just shocking. I have three more episodes and then I am on to season five. I cant stop watching and at the same time I dont want to get to the end.
Snoop is awesome*. The actress is essentially playing herself -- she's not really an actress, she's just a thug (recently out of prison for murder) that the actor who plays Omar met in a club and introduced to the producers._____*Not that I want to glorify criminal behavior.I watched episode 1 season 4 last night. I understood the gangster girl bought a nail gun but I only understood about 20% of what she said to the salesman. I think the salesman only understood 10%I've had to rewind and turn them on before to make sure I understood something.My in-laws are watching it with subtitles
More...Snoop is awesome*. The actress is essentially playing herself -- she's not really an actress, she's just a thug (recently out of prison for murder) that the actor who plays Omar met in a club and introduced to the producers._____I watched episode 1 season 4 last night. I understood the gangster girl bought a nail gun but I only understood about 20% of what she said to the salesman. I think the salesman only understood 10%I've had to rewind and turn them on before to make sure I understood something.My in-laws are watching it with subtitlesThere were times where a phrase was used that even if I heard it correctly, I wouldn't have known what it meant.
*Not that I want to glorify criminal behavior.
You are right.Bro... You gotta toss this stuff in Spoiler tags. Wouldn't want to ruin it for the folks who still havn't caught on and may wander into this thread.The brutality of this show really gets to me at times. I just watched season 4 episode 10.
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Just shocking. I have three more episodes and then I am on to season five. I cant stop watching and at the same time I dont want to get to the end.
No he isn't. The series isn't airing anymore. There's 30 pages of discussion of what has happened at various points in this series. We can't spoiler tag all of that just because new viewers haven't seen it yet. How the hell are we supposed to talk about the series otherwise?You are right.Bro... You gotta toss this stuff in Spoiler tags. Wouldn't want to ruin it for the folks who still havn't caught on and may wander into this thread.The brutality of this show really gets to me at times. I just watched season 4 episode 10.
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I feel yaNo he isn't. The series isn't airing anymore. There's 30 pages of discussion of what has happened at various points in this series. We can't spoiler tag all of that just because new viewers haven't seen it yet. How the hell are we supposed to talk about the series otherwise?You are right.Bro... You gotta toss this stuff in Spoiler tags. Wouldn't want to ruin it for the folks who still havn't caught on and may wander into this thread.The brutality of this show really gets to me at times. I just watched season 4 episode 10.
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Just looking out for the folks who have not yet caught on. This series played like a really good movie... Just saying...I feel yaNo he isn't. The series isn't airing anymore. There's 30 pages of discussion of what has happened at various points in this series. We can't spoiler tag all of that just because new viewers haven't seen it yet. How the hell are we supposed to talk about the series otherwise?You are right.Bro... You gotta toss this stuff in Spoiler tags. Wouldn't want to ruin it for the folks who still havn't caught on and may wander into this thread.The brutality of this show really gets to me at times. I just watched season 4 episode 10.
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I think a lot of that (unrealistic) talk had more to do with the Mcnulty/Freemon scheme than anything else. Some might bring up the thing, but that actually happened in real life. They actually shot the scene in the same house that it happened in.
the McNulty storyline in season 5 doesn't feel very realistic to me at all and basically ruined my enjoyment of the season. Sure, it's within the realm of possibility but I doubt it is something that happens with any type of regularity. I loved being able to see inside the newsroom and I know from someone who works as a reporter at the Baltimore Sun that the portrayal was scary close to reality. However, there is also a storyline regarding a reporter in season 5 that also feels like it stretches the limits of believability for me. Hard to say much more without giving details away, although I don't think it would ruin anyone's enjoyment of the show since these are storylines that basically last throughout the entire season.
My problem wasn't with the media storyline (although many in the media who knew Simon, and the main target of his ire, an editor named Tim Klebanow , think Simon took a lot of cheap shots with it). After all, for all we know Simon and Burns took plenty of cheap shots at actual guys in the BPD (like whoever Rawls was based on).I did think that Gus was written as such a saintly figure that he failed to register as a real character, which is a trap the Wire never used to fall into. My major problem was with the way McNulty and Freamon were written. I thought both of them were written in ways that cheapened investments that we've made in them in previous seasons. And no matter how self destructive he was, I just didn't believe that McNulty would come up with such an obviously stupid plan. It wasn't like him. It sure wasn't like Lester.
Completely agree about Gus. And in turn it invalidated or cheapened many of the related stories IMO. Good observation.
If youre talking about Nick Sobotka's GF, then yes, I know the tittays you speak of.I remember rewinding and pausing that a couple times actually
Cant agree with The Shield being a better showAnd how does The Wire develop characters and abandon them too quickly??? At least a couple dozen of key characters were in all 5 season, and at least another couple dozen were in at least 3 seasons. The only way characters arent in the show anymore, is if theyre dead or in jail, and I dont call that abandoning, thats just progression of the show.You cant compare interrogation stuff either. The key part of solving cases/convicting people in The Shield occurs in the interrogation room. The key part of solving cases/convicting people in The Wire is done through long periods of wiretaps, surveillance, stockpiling of evidence.The Shield is flashier, but its not better. And if anything, its the one that abandons characters too quick from what I can remember
I just think they're different shows. People make this comparison a lot because they were on in roughly the same time period, but I don't think it's fair. The Shield was great at what it did, and The Wire was great at what it did. I thought they were both fantastic, and I'm glad they both got made. I think it's interesting that both shows had such dark themes. The Shield: The "Hero" is Vic, a corrupt Cop who's not above murder to get what he wants. Still, he does a lot of good police work too, and is ultimately looking out for his family. The Wire: Everyone's favorite is Omar, the homosexual stick-up man. (It's ok because he only robs drug dealers. Plus he's really cool.) Or Bubbles, the junkie. Or maybe McNulty, the alcoholic Cop who will do anything to get what he wants (Kind of like Vic, but McNulty is perhaps more "altruistic", which I actually found less believable as the series went on. Not that that made the show bad or anything.) Both great television, they will be missed.
I don't want to get too involved in a discussion since I'm only on Season 4 and I don't want to read any spoilers. But I'll use this season as an example. McNulty is almost non-existent, I would have liked to see his transition to "family man". Carver is barely on, Lester has no role, there is no Violent Crimes Unit and...no Wire! It seems as if some of the characters, like Greggs, are being strung along for a grand finale in Season 5. This season, as great as it is, is all about the Mayoral race, the kids (Prez is a horrible actor, btw) and Marlow. Each season stands on it's own and I've loved them all but they seem a bit disjointed as a continuing storyline. The Shield did a better job at transitioning between seasons to make the storyline flow. And it had so many more "WTF" moments and edge-of-the-seat drama. I just felt more connected with the characters. and I agree with TexasFan, I'm so glad both were made and glad I finally got around to watching The Wire. Like I said, maybe my opinion will change after Season 5.
Most of the Original crew have a lot of screentime in Season 5, so yeah, wait up before you say which you think is better.BUT, even you said in that last post The Wire is great at developing characters, and thats just what they do in Season 4 - develop more characters. They develop some pretty big new characters like the 4 main school kids and others, as well as further develop more recent heavy hitters such as Marlo, Carcetti, Snoop, Partlow, and more. And its not like McNulty and the rest arent in it, the main storylines just arent involving them so they arent in as many scenes.I understand what youre saying about how you want those others more involved, at the point the show was at in Season 4, they were doing what I just said, as well as developing entirely new stories that then connect to Season 5.
One thing that is amazing is what great actors these kids are. Unbelievably realistic.
Prepare to be absolutely floored in Season 1 Episode 1.Seriously.
Prepared to be absolutely floored in Season 1 Episode 1.Seriously.
Can't think of another show that set the tone so quickly.
Now that the shield is done, I'm thinking Dexter is the best show currently on the teevee...thoughts?Prepared to be absolutely floored in Season 1 Episode 1.Seriously.
I'm thinking of giving Dexter or Rome a shot next.edit to add: and as Dave mentioned, Battlestar. I've heard good things.Now that the shield is done, I'm thinking Dexter is the best show currently on the teevee...thoughts?Prepared to be absolutely floored in Season 1 Episode 1.Seriously.
Dexter just got extended for two more seasons, so you should probably go with the whole total series thing...The Shield will hold you over for a while.I'm thinking of giving Dexter or Rome a shot next.edit to add: and as Dave mentioned, Battlestar. I've heard good things.Now that the shield is done, I'm thinking Dexter is the best show currently on the teevee...thoughts?Prepared to be absolutely floored in Season 1 Episode 1.Seriously.
i really liked season 1 of BSG but it has become a case of diminishing returns for me.i caught a few episodes of "dexter" and cannot say it held any particular appeal for me.i have caught episodes of "rome" and think it shows some promise.what i was really considering was "carnivale" because of the really strong reviews.
I'm not asking you to change your mind. But there's no doubt that The Shild is a much more sensationalistic version of police work. The Wire may not be your favorite, but it is a lot more realistic than The Shield.
