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. That means that they drafted someone else first who they perceived to have more value. No one is outplaying their relative draft value more than Lewis right now. Why trade him now? He will be considered much more valuable after a few games against that schedule, providing he stays healthy. The object is supposed to be to have players in your lineup that generally outperform their peers. Lewis is definitely doing that at this point. I traded one owner in our league Amos Zereoue and Terrell Owens for Lewis and Jerry Rice on draft day (considering I also had Marvin Harrison and Derrick Mason for WR's). So far, the trade is working out pretty good for me.
That being said, from all accounts, it looked like Cleveland was using 8 in the box and it wasn't working.Is JLew the best RB in football...no.Is he going to get the ball 350-375 times this year...yes.Can he average 4 YPC in doing so...yes.Can he put up 10-12 TD's...yes.Will 8 men in the box sometimes stifle him...yes.But the bottom line is this...you want your RB's touching the ball (witness what happens when they don't...Marshall Faulk). JLew is going to get his touches, perhaps more of them (rushing) than any RB in football, and his speed was impressive.Come 2004, he'll be considered a Top 5 RB.
This is the third time I've written this here.Mike Martz needs to be 302'd. He's a danger to himself and his players.
Since when did Dillon break that record twice?
What makes Jamal Lewis any less likely to be injured than Priest or Portis? Sure, those two are a little nicked up now, but Lewis has a rather extensive injury history, which includes multiple knee operations. BTW, I'm saying this as a Lewis owner who doesn't own either Portis or Priest in any of my teams.Hmmm no I think Portis will not play a full season (see last game for starters) and while he posts nice numbers won't have the record.
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Nope. He had the one game against Denver that broke Payton's record. Payton's big day ranks third behind Lewis and Dillon.
Funny, but that is one of the more irritating things I hear in fantasy and real sports "If you take away those (insert amount) of plays his numbers would not look good." Well, you CAN'T just take away those plays. If you do, then you could say "If (insert name) didn't throw those 10 Int's, his TD/INT ratio would be #1!"Why do people think it's valid to throw out large run plays or long ball receiving plays, etc when they count!:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
i agree 100%. i am a huge shaun alexander fan (the guy has almost singlehandedly won me two straight titles in my keeper league), and i get sick of hearing that crap-### argument about throwing out the minny game. that's why i found that "throw out the record setting game" so humorous. it seems people only pick on shaun with that faulty logic.
Agreed. Let's see, how do we stop the Ravens? 8 or 9 in the box to stop Jamal (I know the Browns tried 8, but they suck very badly at it) and let the below average rookie QB beat us OR sit back in coverage and try to contain Travis Taylor and all the other stiff Raven WR's and let Jamal run wild on us. Hmmmmm.Jamal is a great #2 back and will outpeform his draft position, but those of you who are able to get a Portis, Ricky, etc. for Jamal and another player are wise. The Ravens "O" will struggle with a rookie QB at times. With that being said, he does have an easy rushing schedule, so I definitely see 10 TD's and a boatload of yards.
Again, why do you say " I know CLE sucks badly at it" when they still stacked the line and he ran all over them. Let me make this point again, their schedule isn't tough at all. If you can say you will break the single day rushing record and do just that, I don't care what defense is out there, that is bold.Here is his schedule:
I hear you and the bizarre thing is that this is common across the board in all sports and not just fantasy but real sports!If Kobe didn't have Shaq he wouldn't have won any titles.If JLew didn't have those explosive big runs his average would have stunkIf the Titans had one more foot to the endzone in the SuperBowlIf you take away SAlex game against Minn then he is an average at best back (then why a top 1st rounder?).Excuses and that's what separates the studs from the rest, the rest don't make those plays happen while the studs do. Then people act like it was luck!
Neither injuries should affect Portis' or Holmes' ability to play this weekend. Plus, they are both injuries to the chest area. So no, I don't think these injuries say anything about the likelihood that Holmes or Portis will miss a large portion of the season.Also, unless you believe that there is a large population of fantasy players who possess insider information regarding player injuries, the fact that many people are picking up Portis' backup means nothing. That activity is driven entirely by speculation.KFFL injury reports: Chiefs | Holmes Being Used too Much - from www.KFFL.comTue, 16 Sep 2003 18:27:13 -0700Updating previous reports, Associated Press reports Kansas City Chiefs RB Priest Holmes' (bruised ribs) latest injury has raised some questions as to whether the team is asking him to do too much on the field. The team has said they want to give him fewer touches this year than last season, but so far this year Holmes has 53 touches – second most in the NFL – in two games. "His workload is exactly the same after the first two games as it was last year," offensive coordinator Al Saunders said. Broncos | Tests on Portis Negative - from www.KFFL.comMon, 15 Sep 2003 15:00:56 -0700Updating previous reports, Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan said an MRI and X-ray on RB Clinton Portis (chest) were negative. As reported, he's expected to practice Wednesday, Sept. 17.
Two things:1) You don't see a trend? The fact that a 20 year-old record has been bested three times (according to your math, I have it being broken twice) in three years leads me to believe that it could fall (again) sooner rather than later.2) Portis had 100+ yards in the first quarter on Sunday and has put up more 150+ yard games as Lewis has in half the starts.Sure Portis has been dinged up this year but it hasn't stopped him from topping 120 yards in each game and leading the Broncos to two wins. He'll get his chances (more than Lewis will) from here on out. If I had to bet on who will break the record in the next two years I'm definitely bettin on Portis!
But it has stopped him from topping 295, hasn't it?
HERD
HERD,WHEN Portis breaks off 300 on somebody in the next two years I propose that you drop the avatar you stole from me forever!But it has stopped him from topping 295, hasn't it?
I am Moe the Bartender, no one else... 
Off subject.. curious about judgement day
Again, we need to stop with the "would have had more yards if x didn't happen" lets stick to the facts with Portis game last Sunday. I didn't bring up about JLewis's long TD run that got called back, did I?I am not talking about if Portis will break JLew's single game record, I am saying that JLew should not be traded away. I don't see Portis as durable as JLewis, his knee injuries and all.Lewis has the record and until Portis breaks it (and that's a BIG If) then it doesn't mean much. Facts are JLewis has an easy schedule and has the best single game record. Nuff said
Don't hold your breath. I think I have to go, Portis caved in chest is calling me.HERD,WHEN Portis breaks off 300 on somebody in the next two years I propose that you drop the avatar you stole from me forever!But it has stopped him from topping 295, hasn't it?
Also, I guess you never heard of Ricky Williams.
