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These concussions are awesome. (1 Viewer)
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Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
yeah, cuz cutler was lighting it up before campbell had to come in.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Honestly going team qb may be the way of the future. Too likely your qb gt pulled for concussion these days.
Sea Duck
Footballguy
Yeah, it's called "don't play football anymore".
Jewell
Footballguy
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Considering the Bears lost by 7, I'd say it definitely played an impact on the game.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Bradshaw got lit up too. Fred Jackson may also have a concussion. There were some big hits this week.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Is this another one of your fronts that are a put-on??
Who are you? I really want to know.
Phenix
Footballguy
Gee, I wonder what happened to players when they got hit hard when the game was much rougher many years ago.
You take a hit get a concussion fine, but to have the league tell people they cant play? This over sensitivity to what the media thinks by the NFL is horrible, and lets face it, thats where it started.
NASCAR even does this concussion crap. Really? Its getting old.
This is the leagues fault, you are telling me in the many years before you never cared when people got hit, now you change the rules and pull a player for a headache. NFL is for sissies anymore, if not for fantasy football, it would be so lame at times.
Cant touch a QB... ANYWHERE.
Cant touch a WR... At All.
You cant grab a player by the neck/shoulder pads to tackle them.
You cant hit anyone hard without get flagged.
Players have to think about a tackle before they do it.
You take a hit get a concussion fine, but to have the league tell people they cant play? This over sensitivity to what the media thinks by the NFL is horrible, and lets face it, thats where it started.
NASCAR even does this concussion crap. Really? Its getting old.
This is the leagues fault, you are telling me in the many years before you never cared when people got hit, now you change the rules and pull a player for a headache. NFL is for sissies anymore, if not for fantasy football, it would be so lame at times.
Cant touch a QB... ANYWHERE.
Cant touch a WR... At All.
You cant grab a player by the neck/shoulder pads to tackle them.
You cant hit anyone hard without get flagged.
Players have to think about a tackle before they do it.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
My main league has been team QB for a couple years now, makes it more interesting in a way.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
On Monday night two of the best defenses in the league face off, the Bears vs. the 49'ers. It might be Kaepernick vs. Campbell.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
I can't explain.'Sinn Fein said:
sho nuff
Footballguy
Seriously?You wonder what happened to players years ago? Might want to read up...they are in terrible shape physically and some have blamed their post-playing days and concussions on their own suicides.I think for many years they did not have a clue of the long term effects of concussions and even today its still a bit unclear other than knowing that for the most part its pretty freaking bad.'Phenix said:
Hooper31
Footballguy
This isn't a shocker. Former NFL players are suing the NFL left and right.
Synthesizer
Footballguy
It also doesn't help when a player is stupid enough to give himself a concussion. Cutler was running past the line of scrimmage with a LB about 5 feet in front of him. Instead of protecting himself, he throws the ball and practically launches himself into the LB. Unless he was expecting the LB to step out of his way so he could keep running, he's gotta be smarter than that.
xenith
Footballguy
Let's put the QBs behind the 3 quadrant net like MLB batting practice coaches. then dig a surrounding moat, and fill it with flamable oil. then put up a motion detection system if any defender encroaches within 3.33 yards of the moat, yep you guessed it, the fluid is sparked for a dazzling display of flame broiled pass rushers. mmm toasty.
DoubleG
Footballguy
With that description, you could easily get either Burger King or Quizno's to sponsor the moat!
Well, I won't get fooled again.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
We're not gonna take it.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Hit me with your best shot.
DoubleG
Footballguy
I bet you say that to all the girls.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
When the kids are alright, you better you bet they'll be going mobile.One thing I don't understand - why was Maclin allowed to come back in, conveniently saying "it was just a head/neck injury".
GreenNGold
Footballguy
They should make every player wear the new concussion-proof helmets that Aaron Rodgers started wearing after his last concussion.
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Statcruncher
Footballguy
Wow, I didn't know Tim Dobbins posted here. You sure about the bolded? When Cutler released the ball the defender was 3 yards away. I'm missing the part where Cutler was launching forward too. Cutler knew he was probably going to get hit, he just didn't know the other guy would target the helmet since it's illegal. You might want to look at the play again so you can accquaint yourself with reality.Or you can go to NFL.com and check out their video highlights from the game. Now scroll down through the videos and select the one that's titled "Cutler Injured On Illegal Hit". I don't think anyone has an issue with Dobbins putting a hit on Cutler, but going helmet to helmet is ridiculous.
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rockaction
Footballguy
But they had a prayer with Cutler in the game. As soon as Campbell came in, it seemed -- at least to me -- like the game was just over. And it was.'Kool-Aid Larry said:
Concussions are part of the NFL game now for the reasons stated above (ongoing lawsuits, $$$$, etc.).
The CFL, however, seems to have yet to adopt similar protocols:
CALGARY - Drew Tate tossed a 68-yard bomb to Romby Bryant for the winning touchdown with 20 seconds left, ending a long drought against the biggest rival.
That much he remembers.
As for the first half, when the Calgary Stampeders quarterback tossed a bomb to receiver Jabari Arthur and set up another TD drive, he's a little foggy.
Tate took a massive head hit early in the second quarter of Sunday's CFL West Division semifinal courtesy of Saskatchewan Roughriders defensive end Tearrius George, and he doesn't remember the entire first 30 minutes.
The Stamps are lucky their No. 1 pivot stayed in the game, although maybe he shouldn't have, considering they beat the Saskatchewan Roughriders 36-30 in one of the most thrilling playoff outings in history.
Tate was picked up by teammates on the play, got back in the huddle and led them on a drive that put them in front early.
"I just got my bell rung -- that's all," Tate said afterwards. "I don't plan on (missing any time this week)."
At halftime, Tate told TSN sideline reporter Farhan Lalji he didn't remember the first half, but apparently nobody told Stamps GM/head coach John Hufnagel about that fact.
It was another curious turn of events in a game filled with them.
For Bryant, the final TD strike was a bit of redemption, too. The Stamps were leading by 10 points in the fourth quarter when Bryant was reaching for a first down and had the ball knocked loose by Riders safety Craig Butler.
The fumble gave the Riders some life, as three plays later Darian Durant threw the first of two fourth-quarter TD strikes to Greg Carr.
"We didn't panic at all," Bryant said. "We just went on the field and do what we do. We've won a lot of nailbiters like that.
"There was a lot of emotion. Two years ago, Saskatchewan put us out. We just got tired of (losing to them in the playoffs).
"I can't explain how I felt. I was running out there for the team. It was a team effort."
With the win, the Stamps break a five-game losing skid against the Riders dating back to 1994. They will travel to Vancouver next weekend to face the defending Grey Cup champion B.C. Lions in Sunday's West final.
The Riders have their season ended, but they went down swinging and can be proud of their effort.
Durant went 24-of-37 passing for 435 yards with four touchdowns -- two in the second quarter to running back Kory Sheets -- but with two interceptions, although one was a last-second Hail Mary.
Riders receiver Weston Dressler was the biggest target, and he seemed to do damage every time he touched the ball. Dressler finished with six catches for 153 yards.
The Stamps also got clutch kicking from Rene Paredes, who hit a 50-yarder at the end of the first half that capped a wild swing in momentum.
After Sheets' second TD, Keon Raymond blocked the extra point, giving Fred Bennett the chance to return the ball for two points the other way.
Raymond iced the game with the final interception, plus had a sack in the first quarter that was key.
The Stamps have finally lifted the Riders curse, and now they face the Lions in the post-season for the first time since 2008, when they went on a Grey Cup run.
"Since '94? Not no more," Raymond said. "The Riders are a good team. That's why they were in the playoffs.
"When we've played them this year, it's been a total of six or seven points between us. It was a great play by Romby at the end. We had to step up."
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/CFL/Games/2012/11/11/20348241.html
The CFL, however, seems to have yet to adopt similar protocols:
CALGARY - Drew Tate tossed a 68-yard bomb to Romby Bryant for the winning touchdown with 20 seconds left, ending a long drought against the biggest rival.
That much he remembers.
As for the first half, when the Calgary Stampeders quarterback tossed a bomb to receiver Jabari Arthur and set up another TD drive, he's a little foggy.
Tate took a massive head hit early in the second quarter of Sunday's CFL West Division semifinal courtesy of Saskatchewan Roughriders defensive end Tearrius George, and he doesn't remember the entire first 30 minutes.
The Stamps are lucky their No. 1 pivot stayed in the game, although maybe he shouldn't have, considering they beat the Saskatchewan Roughriders 36-30 in one of the most thrilling playoff outings in history.
Tate was picked up by teammates on the play, got back in the huddle and led them on a drive that put them in front early.
"I just got my bell rung -- that's all," Tate said afterwards. "I don't plan on (missing any time this week)."
At halftime, Tate told TSN sideline reporter Farhan Lalji he didn't remember the first half, but apparently nobody told Stamps GM/head coach John Hufnagel about that fact.
It was another curious turn of events in a game filled with them.
For Bryant, the final TD strike was a bit of redemption, too. The Stamps were leading by 10 points in the fourth quarter when Bryant was reaching for a first down and had the ball knocked loose by Riders safety Craig Butler.
The fumble gave the Riders some life, as three plays later Darian Durant threw the first of two fourth-quarter TD strikes to Greg Carr.
"We didn't panic at all," Bryant said. "We just went on the field and do what we do. We've won a lot of nailbiters like that.
"There was a lot of emotion. Two years ago, Saskatchewan put us out. We just got tired of (losing to them in the playoffs).
"I can't explain how I felt. I was running out there for the team. It was a team effort."
With the win, the Stamps break a five-game losing skid against the Riders dating back to 1994. They will travel to Vancouver next weekend to face the defending Grey Cup champion B.C. Lions in Sunday's West final.
The Riders have their season ended, but they went down swinging and can be proud of their effort.
Durant went 24-of-37 passing for 435 yards with four touchdowns -- two in the second quarter to running back Kory Sheets -- but with two interceptions, although one was a last-second Hail Mary.
Riders receiver Weston Dressler was the biggest target, and he seemed to do damage every time he touched the ball. Dressler finished with six catches for 153 yards.
The Stamps also got clutch kicking from Rene Paredes, who hit a 50-yarder at the end of the first half that capped a wild swing in momentum.
After Sheets' second TD, Keon Raymond blocked the extra point, giving Fred Bennett the chance to return the ball for two points the other way.
Raymond iced the game with the final interception, plus had a sack in the first quarter that was key.
The Stamps have finally lifted the Riders curse, and now they face the Lions in the post-season for the first time since 2008, when they went on a Grey Cup run.
"Since '94? Not no more," Raymond said. "The Riders are a good team. That's why they were in the playoffs.
"When we've played them this year, it's been a total of six or seven points between us. It was a great play by Romby at the end. We had to step up."
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/CFL/Games/2012/11/11/20348241.html
Synthesizer
Footballguy
I've watched it again and I still disagree with you, especially saying that it's a targeted helmet-to-helmet. The players are moving toward each other and Cutler has already faked a pass once. The defender sees Cutler's arm making that same motion again so he starts a normal tackle at about 4 yards away. He knows that a hit is going to happen so he pulls back and tries to go shoulder-to-shoulder with a wrap-up. Unfortunately, Cutler is still in the air and their helmets hit. When you're running around pump-faking and throwing jump passes in the middle of the field past the line of scrimmage, bad things are going to happen.
SWC
Bromigo
but how else could you see two titans like couplinger and cambells soup square off seriously i am glad that they take the precautions head injuries are nothing to mess around with and i hope that everyone who got hurt gets better concussions are not awesome and that is the truth right there brohans bam
delusional
Footballguy
cause he passed concussion tests on the sideline.One thing I don't understand - why was Maclin allowed to come back in, conveniently saying "it was just a head/neck injury".
Statcruncher
Footballguy
No helmet to helmet contact? Notice how the impact has already snapped Cutler's head/helmet 90 degress to the left. You really think this is the result of shoulder to shoulder contact? And here's another video with better angles and slo-mo of the hit. Pay attention to the contact at 1:49. Which is the first part of Jay to snap violently, his shoulder or his helmet? It also has the line of scrimmage red line which appears to show Cutler wasn't across the line when he released the pass. Obviously though if you think the hit was clean you wouldn't believe that either.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
One owner in my league owned all 3 going into the weekend, just figured that out tonight checking the scores of the MNF...good lord I have never seen that happen to anyone.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
tl;dr'Eminence said:
The anti concussion stuff is an eminence frontWhen the kids are alright, you better you bet they'll be going mobile.One thing I don't understand - why was Maclin allowed to come back in, conveniently saying "it was just a head/neck injury".
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Pitta- out for the game with a concussion. Redman - out for the game with a concussion.
I think I watched football in half of the 70s and all of the 80s without hearing the word "concussion" once.
I think I watched football in half of the 70s and all of the 80s without hearing the word "concussion" once.
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
They need super huge bobble sized helmets. Seriously.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Peyton Manning would float away.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
they had thicker heads back then.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
A couple of us have floated this idea to my local league in the past and met with fairly strong opposition. What are some of the benefits and/or downsides?
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Then how will they possibly get things through to their thick skulls?'Eviloutsider said:
lod01
Footballguy
Downside, you are taking injuries out of the equation. Your top QBs don't get injured as much as your ham and egger ones, especially concussions. Just draft a Brees-Brady-Rodgers-Ryan-Manning. Stay away from Roethlisberger-Vick-Cutler. They **** around in the backfield and then get stomped on.'roadkill1292 said:
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Why is that a downside? And if the theory is true, what's wrong with drafting higher/paying more at auction for the Team QB least likely for the starter to get hurt?
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
how about if their helmet flies off, they are docked 25k. i have never seen so many helmets flying around the field. strap it down tight.
Warpig
Footballguy
I think the current NFL uses the term "concussion" loosely. The reason being is all the lawsuits and media attention these blows to the head are getting. So in an effort to save their ###, team doctors are calling any wooziness a concussion and holding the player out. Some of these guys are coming back after resting for the week before the next game. If it were a real concussion, I think it would take more than a few days rest to truely recover. In all reality, a player takes a hard hit to the head, gets woozy and goes to the sideline, and as a precautionary measure, they are holding the player out of the game to prevent the possibility of a full blown concussion.
As fantasy footballers it does suck for us. But the state of the league really gives teams no other choice but to be overly cautious.
If someone can design a helmet that can drastically reduce head trauma, they would find themselves excessively rich.
As fantasy footballers it does suck for us. But the state of the league really gives teams no other choice but to be overly cautious.
If someone can design a helmet that can drastically reduce head trauma, they would find themselves excessively rich.
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