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Things Canada does better than the US of A (5 Viewers)

mquinnjr said:
I lean towards classifying that as a microbrew. As far as macrobrews, I give this to Canada. Off the top of my head, Molson and Labatt's would run circles around Bud and Miller.
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Our piss beer is better than yours!!!

I just wanted to point out that InBev owns both Budweiser and Labatt along with a large host of others across the world.  And Coors and Molson have merged and I believe they have recently retained Miller for a time which was held by InBev.  It's no longer us vs. them in the macro market. 

 
MarvinTScamper said:
We lived in Toronto for a few years.  It's different than ham, but not different like bacon is different. 

Anyway, I liked it. 
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Like 15 years ago I worked with a Canadian company and was talking about their ####ty Canadian bacon and this guy kept talking up peameal bacon and how it was so much better and I got it as a burger topping and told him it was just fried ham and nowhere near as good as real bacon

 
rail said:
What's so superior about the strip clubs?
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I think most are full nude plus serve alcohol... I think in USA its different for each state but not too common as far as I know 

Like in Michigan we have totally nude strip clubs with no alcohol or topless only that serve alcohol (although you can usually talk the girls into showing you their #####)

I remember being in Chicago one time an the girls were topless but had to wear like clear silicone over their nipples 

I think some states might still require pasties, etc

 
Molson/ Labatt >> Bud/Miller etc and it's not close

Canadian healthcare is great if you really need it (transplant/cancer etc) but not so great if your situation isn't life threatening (acl repair for example).  US healthcare is awesome if you have good insurance but terrible if you're uninsured or have crappy insurance.  

Justin Trudeau is a ####### embarrassment.  He's completely unqualified.

The above are my opinions as someone who was born in Canada but has lived in the US for almost 25 years.  I'm late to the thread but happy to opine on almost anything.

 
chet said:
Molson/ Labatt >> Bud/Miller etc and it's not close

Canadian healthcare is great if you really need it (transplant/cancer etc) but not so great if your situation isn't life threatening (acl repair for example).  US healthcare is awesome if you have good insurance but terrible if you're uninsured or have crappy insurance.  

Justin Trudeau is a ####### embarrassment.  He's completely unqualified.

The above are my opinions as someone who was born in Canada but has lived in the US for almost 25 years.  I'm late to the thread but happy to opine on almost anything.
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I live in Canada and this is pretty accurate.

Except that Molson Canadian is horrible.  Budweiser is better. 

 
chet said:
Kokanee is a good lager.  Disagree with you re: Molson Canadian though.
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Kokanee is less objectionable than Molson/Bud and the like but it's pretty watery IMO. I'll take Blue over the lot but I lean pilseners.  If Canadian and Bud are the only options, I usually just don't drink.

 
Regarding the beer discussion, anyone who thinks Canadian beer is better than US beer needs to spend some time in San Diego. San Diego alone produces better beer than any other country in the world, and it's not close. Stone, Ballast Point, Sierra Nevada, Green Flash, Modern Times, etc.

:banned:  

 
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Just Win Baby said:
Regarding the beer discussion, anyone who thinks Canadian beer is better than US beer needs to spend some time in San Diego. San Diego alone produces better beer than any other country in the world, and it's not close. Stone, Ballast Point, Sierra Nevada, Green Flash, Modern Times, etc.

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:lmao:

 
chet said:
Molson/ Labatt >> Bud/Miller etc and it's not close

Canadian healthcare is great if you really need it (transplant/cancer etc) but not so great if your situation isn't life threatening (acl repair for example).  US healthcare is awesome if you have good insurance but terrible if you're uninsured or have crappy insurance.  

Justin Trudeau is a ####### embarrassment.  He's completely unqualified.

The above are my opinions as someone who was born in Canada but has lived in the US for almost 25 years.  I'm late to the thread but happy to opine on almost anything.
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As opposed to the current President of the USA who is qualified for the job?

 
Plus, American breweries are pretty #### at a lot of styles of beer. Sure they rule IPA's and bourbon barrel aged whatever, but there are a lot of English and Belgian influenced styles or German/Czech influenced lagers where by and large the US craft breweries are far inferior to Canadian breweries, let alone the European ones who mastered the styles.

 
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Northern Voice said:
Plus, American breweries are pretty #### at a lot of styles of beer. Sure they rule IPA's and bourbon barrel aged whatever, but there are a lot of English and Belgian influenced styles or German/Czech influenced lagers where by and large the US craft breweries are far inferior to Canadian breweries, let alone the European ones who mastered the styles.
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Completely agree (and made that point with Thunderlips up thread). But I suppose there is a reason their sports have finals that are "world series" or "super bowls" despite being largely domestic leagues...

That being said would not mind drinking my way through SD or Asheville etc.

Purely for quality control purposes, obviously ;)

 
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Northern Voice said:
Plus, American breweries are pretty #### at a lot of styles of beer. Sure they rule IPA's and bourbon barrel aged whatever, but there are a lot of English and Belgian influenced styles or German/Czech influenced lagers where by and large the US craft breweries are far inferior to Canadian breweries, let alone the European ones who mastered the styles.
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The hipster beer snob thing about trying to make IPAs as hoppy and bitter as possible is so ####ing stupid. I pretended to like that kind of beer when I was an a$$hole in my early 20s too...25 years ago. 

Making a really good and balanced lager is harder than making some ####ty trendy beer as bitter as possible. I have had some really good US microbrew lagers in restaurants, but my local grocery store has a beer aisle that is 100 feet long, 75% of which is various microbrews, and there isn't a single US microbrew lager in it. But there are dozens and dozens of IPAs.

I'll take a good German lager or Tiger beer over any of that crap. 

 
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RedmondLonghorn said:
The hipster beer snob thing about trying to make IPAs as hoppy and bitter as possible is so ####ing stupid. I pretended to like that kind of beer when I was an a$$hole in my early 20s too...25 years ago. 

Making a really good and balanced lager is harder than making some ####ty trendy beer as bitter as possible. I have had some really good US microbrew lagers in restaurants, but my local grocery store has a beer aisle that is 100 feet long, 75% of which is various microbrews, and there isn't a single US microbrew lager in it. But there are dozens and dozens of IPAs.

I'll take a good German lager or Tiger beer over any of that crap. 
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I was with you all the way until Tiger Beer. Saigon FTW ;)   

I can tell you why there aren't many microbrew lagers, though - cold hard cash.

In two ways:

1) A lager (and almost to the same extent a pilsner) takes a long time to finish brewing. The word Lager in this context in German means to stock or to store. After the fermentation is over you typically have to store the beer for 30 (Pilsen) to 45 (Lager) days to finish off the taste - and this is generally done before bottling/kegging. An ale (non cask) would take a week, maybe two. So by brewing a Lager you tie up your assets (conditioning tank) for 3 to six times longer than when brewing an ale.You are either creating a bottleneck or you need to have an "underutilized" extra asset (another (set of) conditioning tank(s)) in your brewhouse if you want to have a lager in your line up. Either of which is added cost which you can't recuperate because you can't charge extra for the lager compared to your pale ale, stout or IPA.

2) A lager competes directly with the industrials (like Tiger, Budweiser Stella Artois or even Saigon) in a way that your IPA or Weissbier does not. In the purchasisng moment people maybe tempted to choose the cheaper brand for the "same" product.

Which is why I brew my own! I can tell you how that turned out by Father's day...

 
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msommer said:
I was with you all the way until Tiger Beer. Saigon FTW ;)   

I can tell you why there aren't many microbrew lagers, though - cold hard cash.

In two ways:

1) A lager (and almost to the same extent a pilsner) takes a long time to finish brewing. The word Lager in this context in German means to stock or to store. After the fermentation is over you typically have to store the beer for 30 (Pilsen) to 45 (Lager) days to finish off the taste - and this is generally done before bottling/kegging. An ale (non cask) would take a week, maybe two. So by brewing a Lager you tie up your assets (conditioning tank) for 3 to six times longer than when brewing an ale.You are either creating a bottleneck or you need to have an "underutilized" extra asset (another (set of) conditioning tank(s)) in your brewhouse if you want to have a lager in your line up. Either of which is added cost which you can't recuperate because you can't charge extra for the lager compared to your pale ale, stout or IPA.

2) A lager competes directly with the industrials (like Tiger, Budweiser Stella Artois or even Saigon) in a way that your IPA or Weissbier does not. In the purchasisng moment people maybe tempted to choose the cheaper brand for the "same" product.

Which is why I brew my own! I can tell you how that turned out by Father's day...
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Good stuff. I didn't realize the difference in conditioning time, but I follow the business aspects completely.

I like Tiger a lot. I don't believe I have ever had Saigon, but will keep my eye out for it.

I also really like most Bavarian Lagers I have had. I used to be able to find Paulaner Lager at the beer store when I lived in Chicago, but in the PNW the only Paulaners I see regularly are Hefeweizen (GTFO with that crap), Salvatore (decent), and maybe a Dopplebock (solid).

Though it isn't high end, I also like Modelo Especial. It is decidedly a macro brew, but is a much better equivalent of a German Lager than any large scale beer brewed in the US.

I also rather liked Polar, but Venezuela.

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
Good stuff. I didn't realize the difference in conditioning time, but I follow the business aspects completely.

I like Tiger a lot. I don't believe I have ever had Saigon, but will keep my eye out for it.

I also really like most Bavarian Lagers I have had. I used to be able to find Paulaner Lager at the beer store when I lived in Chicago, but in the PNW the only Paulaners I see regularly are Hefeweizen (GTFO with that crap), Salvatore (decent), and maybe a Dopplebock (solid).

Though it isn't high end, I also like Modelo Especial. It is decidedly a macro brew, but is a much better equivalent of a German Lager than any large scale beer brewed in the US.

I also rather liked Polar, but Venezuela.
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The bit I never liked about Polar (in Venezuela) was the size of the bottle - 25 cl IIRC. You had to order a new one every five minutes...

 
Thunderlips said:
I think Dogfish Head could take on the entire Canadian Brewing world by itself and win hands down. 

There's waaaayyyy to many mid level (yet nationally distributed) breweries in the United States for any other country to compete with. 
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If we weren't so busy making IPAs for ruined taste buds, we would have the best brew selection in the world.  

Are we competing with the Belgians and Germans and Irish for certain brews? No. But we'd be near the top in every category of everything.  

 
AcerFC said:
1. National Anthem (yes)

2. Hockey (not in 1980 and that one year we won the World Cup in the nineties, eh?)

3. National Symbol. Maple Leaf >>>> Bald Eagle (yes)

4. Maple Syrup 

5. The use of the word eh

6. Curling ( :loco: )
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Not a bad list. I'll add legalized weed, hookers, and strip clubs and maybe even the best of the best of punk-ish rock right now with ####ed Up! and Japandroids.

 
Dan Lambskin said:
I think most are full nude plus serve alcohol... I think in USA its different for each state but not too common as far as I know 

Like in Michigan we have totally nude strip clubs with no alcohol or topless only that serve alcohol (although you can usually talk the girls into showing you their #####)

I remember being in Chicago one time an the girls were topless but had to wear like clear silicone over their nipples 

I think some states might still require pasties, etc
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Yep. 

Plus bars in Canada can hire/let girls come in to strip. I remember eating lunch at a bar and grill in Winnipeg with college buddies when I was 19 and like outta nowhere 7 hot chicks show up over the course of a couple of hours. They just stripped on the dance floor. This was mid day and I remember there were even families eating lunch there. My buddies and I couldn't even believe what was happening. They were all really cool too, got full nude, and I was flush with loonies and toonies (sp?) from the casino. One of those like "life is so great" moments. 

 
Canadian health care sucks, it is one of the worst fallacies that we perpetuate as being so amazing about Canada. 

They are all basically government employees. Picture your experience at the DMV. Now imagine that is your health care experience. 

But hey....IT IS FREE!

 
It is legal in Ontario for girls to finish you off as long as there is no penetration. It is a thriving business around the Toronto airport and they advertise pretty openly about it. 

 
The Duff Man said:
Canadian health care sucks, it is one of the worst fallacies that we perpetuate as being so amazing about Canada. 

They are all basically government employees. Picture your experience at the DMV. Now imagine that is your health care experience. 
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Are you talking about emergency rooms or something? For a doctor visit, I go to a brand new clinic, get seen almost immediately, get referred for anything I need elsewhere and all of it is free. There's a full time nurse practitioner in the office who my wife deals with for girl stuff. I have psoriasis so I have been through a fair number of clinics and always had good experiences.

I can't imagine how my service would be better if I was paying out of pocket. You get a handy with every appointment in the States or something?

Emergency rooms are a different story but that's because they're bogged down by people with non-emergency situations.

 
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