This is sooooo cheap (1 Viewer)

[GregR_2]

We have a rule that you must start a player the week you pick him up. It is a redraft league for those that think this would limit owners looking at a long term solution through the waiver wire.

So you are handcuffing guys who try and improve their bench thru the WW?

No we are preventing d-bags from doing the stuff described here. We have a core of about 8 -10 good owners and always wind up with a few clowns who try to find every loophole. Short of charging a fee for each transaction, we did the only other thing that we thoguht would dissuade shady waiver moves.

Well, if your league likes it that way then by all means do it. But I think that's a horrible rule. Many times you should be making waiver moves that are for future weeks, not for right now. In fact, if I have the roster space I frequently pick up my fill-ins for my IDP players the week before I need them, since I know a lot of owners wait until the week their guy is on bye and then go look at matchups to decide who to take. I've already had my pick of the litter since I did the same thing a week earlier.As for preventing the d-bags, I kind of like just having a rule that trying to use waiver locking to prevent other teams from getting players is against the rules and will get you fined a draft pick.

 

[831hoops]

We have a rule that you must start a player the week you pick him up. It is a redraft league for those that think this would limit owners looking at a long term solution through the waiver wire.

So you are handcuffing guys who try and improve their bench thru the WW?

No we are preventing d-bags from doing the stuff described here. We have a core of about 8 -10 good owners and always wind up with a few clowns who try to find every loophole. Short of charging a fee for each transaction, we did the only other thing that we thoguht would dissuade shady waiver moves.

Ummmmm, yeah, anyone who wants to improve their bench pretty much can't.

 

[BeachBums]

We have a rule that you must start a player the week you pick him up. It is a redraft league for those that think this would limit owners looking at a long term solution through the waiver wire.

So you are handcuffing guys who try and improve their bench thru the WW?

No we are preventing d-bags from doing the stuff described here. We have a core of about 8 -10 good owners and always wind up with a few clowns who try to find every loophole. Short of charging a fee for each transaction, we did the only other thing that we thoguht would dissuade shady waiver moves.

Ummmmm, yeah, anyone who wants to improve their bench pretty much can't.

It costs me $2 per waiver pickup in a league that pays $500 for the championship. I make waiver pickups all the time on the off chance the guy is a decent bye week fill in or will continue to produce starting numbers. They usually stay on my bench until I need them, they have a good matchup or they're outproducing a starter. If their numbers drop, they're back on the wire. I'm $17 in the hole so far ($3 to IR an injured player) but I'm expecting to make that up with a few high points for the week payouts (missed by one point this week, dammit). I've read that roster churn on winning teams is about 50 percent in typical leagues. Having to start a waiver pickup would completely change that strategy. I guess whatever works for you is good, but I'll bet having to start a waiver pickup pretty much kills grabbing anything short of a sure thing or a desperation move.Does anyone do waiver pickups in your league? What kind of roster turnover do good teams have?

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

We have a rule that you must start a player the week you pick him up. It is a redraft league for those that think this would limit owners looking at a long term solution through the waiver wire.

So you are handcuffing guys who try and improve their bench thru the WW?

No we are preventing d-bags from doing the stuff described here. We have a core of about 8 -10 good owners and always wind up with a few clowns who try to find every loophole. Short of charging a fee for each transaction, we did the only other thing that we thoguht would dissuade shady waiver moves.

Ummmmm, yeah, anyone who wants to improve their bench pretty much can't.

It costs me $2 per waiver pickup in a league that pays $500 for the championship. I make waiver pickups all the time on the off chance the guy is a decent bye week fill in or will continue to produce starting numbers. They usually stay on my bench until I need them, they have a good matchup or they're outproducing a starter. If their numbers drop, they're back on the wire. I'm $17 in the hole so far ($3 to IR an injured player) but I'm expecting to make that up with a few high points for the week payouts (missed by one point this week, dammit). I've read that roster churn on winning teams is about 50 percent in typical leagues. Having to start a waiver pickup would completely change that strategy. I guess whatever works for you is good, but I'll bet having to start a waiver pickup pretty much kills grabbing anything short of a sure thing or a desperation move.Does anyone do waiver pickups in your league? What kind of roster turnover do good teams have?

One thing I forgot to mention - it makes it much more clear. Each team is allowed 3 waiver moves aper year that can be used at any time to replace someone on their 26 man roster. The waivers I am talking about are "IR" waivers where you can IR a guy if he is OUT/DOUBTFUL/or INACTIVE. For an "IR" waiver, you must play the guy you pick up the week you pick him up. For a "normal" waiver you don't have to.

 

[PranksterJD]

We have a three day waiver wire. I have Westbrook and I had not picked up buckhalter yet. (my fault) On Friday my opponent picked him up and then dropped him immediatly. He was not available until today! So I ended up having no one to start so I picked up the 3 back up. T. Hunt. Man I hate that guy, plus he had done the same thing with K. Watson! Either he is a genius or a huge jerk what do you think?

A similar thing happened in one of my leagues several years ago. One guy picked up every available kicker on the waiver wire and then dropped them so that his opponent didn't have a kicker that week. It's totally bush league and only an idiot would do that in a league amongst friends. Our league now has a rule in place to avoid it happening again. If a player is picked up by a team and dropped without a game being played in between the add and drop time, then the waiver wire period is dropped.

Actually, I have to admit that I've pulled this little trick with TEs ( waited until Sunday at 10 am though ), but I have a little different take. I think that a league with close friends is the only time that you CAN / SHOULD pull something like this. Running this stunt against someone you don't or barely know is, agreed, bush league, but with good friends the joking and bragging are a huge part of the fun of the league.Of course you have to choose carefully who you're going to prank, but in my case the guy didn't even infer that it was something that shouldn't be done, and just took the (emotional) beating for not being smart/quick enough on the trigger. Karmic note for this one... I lost that week .

I'm just saying that its a league by league circumstance. Obviously if the OP ( or OP's opponent ) got mad about it, then it was the wrong league/opponent. Every league has a different feel to it, and you have to be careful not to upset the balance, but with something like this I think its hard to make a blanket call as to whether its wrong or not.

While we're making generalizations that probably don't work...

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I do have to say that if you're in a league that needs rules to prevent this and couldn't deal with it if it happened, you're probably in the wrong league, because someone will eventually find something equally "shady" that you won't agree with. Either find a place with a group that wouldn't do it, or find a place with a group that would, depending on your preference, but there are **way** too many fantasy leagues around to waste time with conflicts.

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[BeachBums]

We have a rule that you must start a player the week you pick him up. It is a redraft league for those that think this would limit owners looking at a long term solution through the waiver wire.

So you are handcuffing guys who try and improve their bench thru the WW?

No we are preventing d-bags from doing the stuff described here. We have a core of about 8 -10 good owners and always wind up with a few clowns who try to find every loophole. Short of charging a fee for each transaction, we did the only other thing that we thoguht would dissuade shady waiver moves.

Ummmmm, yeah, anyone who wants to improve their bench pretty much can't.

It costs me $2 per waiver pickup in a league that pays $500 for the championship. I make waiver pickups all the time on the off chance the guy is a decent bye week fill in or will continue to produce starting numbers. They usually stay on my bench until I need them, they have a good matchup or they're outproducing a starter. If their numbers drop, they're back on the wire. I'm $17 in the hole so far ($3 to IR an injured player) but I'm expecting to make that up with a few high points for the week payouts (missed by one point this week, dammit). I've read that roster churn on winning teams is about 50 percent in typical leagues. Having to start a waiver pickup would completely change that strategy. I guess whatever works for you is good, but I'll bet having to start a waiver pickup pretty much kills grabbing anything short of a sure thing or a desperation move.Does anyone do waiver pickups in your league? What kind of roster turnover do good teams have?

One thing I forgot to mention - it makes it much more clear. Each team is allowed 3 waiver moves aper year that can be used at any time to replace someone on their 26 man roster. The waivers I am talking about are "IR" waivers where you can IR a guy if he is OUT/DOUBTFUL/or INACTIVE. For an "IR" waiver, you must play the guy you pick up the week you pick him up. For a "normal" waiver you don't have to.

So in your league a 'waiver' pickup is not picking up a 'free agent' (i.e., a player who is not rostered on a team in your league)?I may be mistaken but I think you're talking apples and oranges. The OP was talking about a situation in which another player in the league picked up Buckhalter and then dropped him which locked Buckhalter and prevented the OP from picking him up (a sneaky move, but within the rules of the league). The OP should have been thinking ahead when stories about Westbrook's injury came out last week and picked Buckhalter up himself. The other guy in the league was two moves ahead and used the rules of the league to prevent the OP from picking up Westbrook's replacement. None of this had anything to do with IR except that the OP might have used the IR to maintain rights to Westbrook without having to clear a roster spot for Buckhalter who was locked cuz the OP wasn't thinking ahead.Would this have been a 'cheap' move if the other guy (the #####-bag) had picked up Buckhalter and held onto him?

 

[mdog1967]

I think the "opponent" is really you, and you're proud of yourself and fishing for compliments.

Either way, it's a brilliant move....

No its not "brilliant" its an old trick and violates the integrity of your league. Its done by folks who drafted like crap and now are scraping for cheap ways to win, and yes Ive done it too. Add and Dropped every QB when my opponets only available Passer went down, didnt work cause he was the Commish and undid all my transactions. It was my 2nd year playing FFBL and the only thing I wanted to do was beat this guy.

 

[johntorn]

He's definately smart and all about his dukkets!$$$

 

[Craig]

We have a rule that you must start a player the week you pick him up. It is a redraft league for those that think this would limit owners looking at a long term solution through the waiver wire.

In one of my leagues, add/drops are limited to 15 for the season. This prevents things like this from happening.