Thomas Jones pulls hammy during physical (1 Viewer)

[Conehead]

Per Chicago radio, The Score.

I guess more to come....

Injured Jones sits out training camp opener

By Larry Mayer

July 27, 2006

The much-anticipated training camp competition at running back will have to wait.

Veteran Thomas Jones missed the first practice Thursday after straining his hamstring during his physical earlier in the day.

Jones, who skipped the voluntary portion of the Bears offseason program, will open camp on the physically unable to perform list.

Jones is eligible to be removed from the list at any time during camp.

Safety Brandon McGowan, who's recovering from a torn ACL, was also placed on the P.U.P. list.

Defensive tackle Tank Johnson, who hurt his quad while lifting weights during the offseason, was placed on the non-football injury list.

Check ChicagoBears.com later for expanded coverage.

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=16244



Edit:

TJ was just interviewed on The Score and said it was just a tweak, "No big deal being held out of practice".

 

[CA_7]

That interesting, according to PFT.com he wasn't even practicing today.

One of our readers has informed us that Chicago's WSCR The Score is reporting that Bears running back Thomas Jones is not in pads and is not practicing today. No news from the Bears about a possible injury ... or does it involve a contract dispute? More coming.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=254268

 

[RBM]

Weird situation

 

[tecmo bo]

That interesting, according to PFT.com he wasn't even practicing today.

One of our readers has informed us that Chicago's WSCR The Score is reporting that Bears running back Thomas Jones is not in pads and is not practicing today. No news from the Bears about a possible injury ... or does it involve a contract dispute? More coming.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=254268

it says injured during his physical

 

[ImTheScientist]

Bensons value =

 

[BringItOn]

670 The Score is now reporting he will miss around 6 weeks

 

[CA_7]

That interesting, according to PFT.com he wasn't even practicing today. 

One of our readers has informed us that Chicago's WSCR The Score is reporting that Bears running back Thomas Jones is not in pads and is not practicing today. No news from the Bears about a possible injury ... or does it involve a contract dispute? More coming.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=254268

it says injured during his physical

Ah, articles was added after my post.

 

[imeimex]

Weird situation

Some conflicting reports, it is unclear if the physical included taking his 40 time or if the physical was of the turn your head and cough kind. Of course if this is about the contract dispute, by showing up he can not be fined. He is of course opening the door wide open for Benson to take over full time.

 

[amphibianbri]

The Score (WSCR 670) later reported in an update that Jones could miss in upwards of 6 weeks with this injury. Let's see if Benson takes advantage of this to take this RB job all to himself. I'll have more updates as they become available.

 

[Neo]

670 The Score is now reporting he will miss around 6 weeks

Whoa.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Benson is now a second round pick in 12 man leagues!!

 

[Raider Nation]

It's not like hammys are bothersome all year, or anything...

Welcome to the Ced era!

 

[dapunisher]

The holdout karma genie strikes again.

 

[Raider Nation]

Benson is now a second round pick in 12 man leagues!!

And Benson owners can now safely grab the handcuff later in the draft because nobody is going to use a very high pick on Jones if he's going to miss some time.

 

[Raider Nation]

That interesting, according to PFT.com he wasn't even practicing today.

One of our readers has informed us that Chicago's WSCR The Score is reporting that Bears running back Thomas Jones is not in pads and is not practicing today. No news from the Bears about a possible injury ... or does it involve a contract dispute? More coming.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=254268

it says injured during his physical

How the hell do you get injured during a physical? Although, for musclebound guys like TJ and myself, it's easy to pull muscles everywhere because you are wound so tightly. I'm surprised T.O. doesn't get hurt more often.

 

[Neo]

That interesting, according to PFT.com he wasn't even practicing today.

One of our readers has informed us that Chicago's WSCR The Score is reporting that Bears running back Thomas Jones is not in pads and is not practicing today. No news from the Bears about a possible injury ... or does it involve a contract dispute? More coming.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=254268

it says injured during his physical

How the hell do you get injured during a physical? Although, for musclebound guys like TJ and myself, it's easy to pull muscles everywhere because you are wound so tightly. I'm surprised T.O. doesn't get hurt more often.

T.O.'s groin is always a problem....he plays through it though.

 

[CA_7]

That interesting, according to PFT.com he wasn't even practicing today. 

One of our readers has informed us that Chicago's WSCR The Score is reporting that Bears running back Thomas Jones is not in pads and is not practicing today. No news from the Bears about a possible injury ... or does it involve a contract dispute? More coming.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=254268

it says injured during his physical

How the hell do you get injured during a physical? Although, for musclebound guys like TJ and myself, it's easy to pull muscles everywhere because you are wound so tightly. I'm surprised T.O. doesn't get hurt more often.

Maybe they have to run sprints, shutlerun, etc

 

[RBM]

Pretty sure anyone saying 6 weeks right now is speculating. The injury hasnt even been fully evaluated yet

 

[There it is]

Thanks Conehead, great posting.

 

[packersfan]

Pretty sure anyone saying 6 weeks right now is speculating. The injury hasnt even been fully evaluated yet

True, but it's not like Jones is the most durable RB in the world to begin with. In six NFL seasons he's only played a full season twice. You can pretty much count on him to get hurt at some point during the season so if he's already hurt now that's not a very good sign in my opinion.

 

[cstu]

Weird situation

Some conflicting reports, it is unclear if the physical included taking his 40 time or if the physical was of the turn your head and cough kind. Of course if this is about the contract dispute, by showing up he can not be fined. He is of course opening the door wide open for Benson to take over full time.

I'm guessing this is about his contract dispute and not being named the starter over Benson. Look for him to be out of Chicago soon.

 

[lebowski]

Benson is now a second round pick in 12 man leagues!!

3rd maybe...I wouldn't say second quite yet.

 

[Raider Nation]

Weird situation

Some conflicting reports, it is unclear if the physical included taking his 40 time or if the physical was of the turn your head and cough kind. Of course if this is about the contract dispute, by showing up he can not be fined. He is of course opening the door wide open for Benson to take over full time.

I'm guessing this is about his contract dispute and not being named the starter over Benson. Look for him to be out of Chicago soon.

Doubtful. He wouldn't have backed down from a challenge.The bad hammy will make it difficult for him to be traded, IMO.

 

[WhoDat]

Weird situation

Some conflicting reports, it is unclear if the physical included taking his 40 time or if the physical was of the turn your head and cough kind. Of course if this is about the contract dispute, by showing up he can not be fined. He is of course opening the door wide open for Benson to take over full time.

I'm guessing this is about his contract dispute and not being named the starter over Benson. Look for him to be out of Chicago soon.

I agree. There is a decent amount of steam and stink blowing from this alleged hamstring injury. I smell BS. I do not doubt the guy is hurt but I highly doubt he did 6 weeks of damage to a hammie during a camp physical. This is going to get ugly.

 

[beardown1019]

Weird situation

Some conflicting reports, it is unclear if the physical included taking his 40 time or if the physical was of the turn your head and cough kind. Of course if this is about the contract dispute, by showing up he can not be fined. He is of course opening the door wide open for Benson to take over full time.

I'm guessing this is about his contract dispute and not being named the starter over Benson. Look for him to be out of Chicago soon.

I agree. There is a decent amount of steam and stink blowing from this alleged hamstring injury. I smell BS. I do not doubt the guy is hurt but I highly doubt he did 6 weeks of damage to a hammie during a camp physical. This is going to get ugly.

I dont know. Being injured is not going to give him any leverage in getting a new contract or increase his trade value. If anything, especially with a hamstring injury, it will decrease his value.

 

[sholditch]

Man this is a helluvan opening day for training camps. First Bentley suffers a serious knee injury, now Jones is going to miss 6 weeks? (BTW, that would only have him out the first two games if that). But certainly does seem like this would pretty much hand Benson the keys if Jones can't participate in camp at all.

It does seem weird, the chronology of it all. Jones wants a trade, doesn't get it. CBA increases fines for missing camp. Jones shows up on time but immediately pulls a hammy and can't participate. Hmmmm

 

[WhoDat]

Weird situation

Some conflicting reports, it is unclear if the physical included taking his 40 time or if the physical was of the turn your head and cough kind. Of course if this is about the contract dispute, by showing up he can not be fined. He is of course opening the door wide open for Benson to take over full time.

I'm guessing this is about his contract dispute and not being named the starter over Benson. Look for him to be out of Chicago soon.

I agree. There is a decent amount of steam and stink blowing from this alleged hamstring injury. I smell BS. I do not doubt the guy is hurt but I highly doubt he did 6 weeks of damage to a hammie during a camp physical. This is going to get ugly.

I dont know. Being injured is not going to give him any leverage in getting a new contract or increase his trade value. If anything, especially with a hamstring injury, it will decrease his value.

Pretending the inury is far worse than it is, though, gets him out of workouts; causes problems in camp; upsets management and Jones forces the issue. It might temporarily decrease what the Bears could get in trade but it increases Jones getting what he wants.Hey, the guy might be hurt but I immediately question how hurt, given his earlier feelings about his contract and coming to camp.

 

[cstu]

Weird situation

Some conflicting reports, it is unclear if the physical included taking his 40 time or if the physical was of the turn your head and cough kind. Of course if this is about the contract dispute, by showing up he can not be fined. He is of course opening the door wide open for Benson to take over full time.

I'm guessing this is about his contract dispute and not being named the starter over Benson. Look for him to be out of Chicago soon.

I agree. There is a decent amount of steam and stink blowing from this alleged hamstring injury. I smell BS. I do not doubt the guy is hurt but I highly doubt he did 6 weeks of damage to a hammie during a camp physical. This is going to get ugly.

I dont know. Being injured is not going to give him any leverage in getting a new contract or increase his trade value. If anything, especially with a hamstring injury, it will decrease his value.

Pretending the inury is far worse than it is, though, gets him out of workouts; causes problems in camp; upsets management and Jones forces the issue. It might temporarily decrease what the Bears could get in trade but it increases Jones getting what he wants.Hey, the guy might be hurt but I immediately question how hurt, given his earlier feelings about his contract and coming to camp.

He might have tweaked his hammy, but for it to be a 6 week injury seems a little too convenient given his contract dispute. Any team who trades for him is going to give him a phyisical and likely he'll be perfectly fine for that one.

 

[T Man]

It could be the same hammy Mike McKenzie pulled on his way to eorking himself out of Green Bay.

Players do not want to be fined $14,000 a day for holding out; so I can see a lot more of this happening to make a point and to avoid fines.

Of course, he could have actually pulled his hamstring in a physical.

 

[Neo]

Why would Thomas Jones state he'll be out 6 weeks? Don't MRI's and doctors determine the extent of an injury and how long it takes that injury to heal?

 

[Todem]

I am going to wait and see an official statement after an MRI etc.

And anyone who takes a chance on Benson in the 2nd Round of a 12 teamer is rolling the dice big time.

No guarantees he can be a great back.

I would let someone else take that shot in the second round.

Now 3rd round....yeah ok I can see that.

 

[Pittsburgh P]

Of course, I just dealt Jake Delhomme for Trent Green and Thomas Jones in my dynasty league.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I am going to wait and see an official statement after an MRI etc.

And anyone who takes a chance on Benson in the 2nd Round of a 12 teamer is rolling the dice big time.

No guarantees he can be a great back.

I would let someone else take that shot in the second round.

Now 3rd round....yeah ok I can see that.

If where going to take a RB in the second you would rather roll the dice on KJ, Jamal Lewis, FWP ..... anyone in that crowd?No Thanks, Rollin with Benson.

 

[beardown1019]

I am going to wait and see an official statement after an MRI etc.

And anyone who takes a chance on Benson in the 2nd Round of a 12 teamer is rolling the dice big time.

No guarantees he can be a great back.

I would let someone else take that shot in the second round.

Now 3rd round....yeah ok I can see that.

Depends on the situation. I think if Jones is out, and Benson wins the job outright he would be worth a second round pick. Right now ADP backs in the second round are Westbrook, McGahee, D. Davis, Parker, Lewis, J. Jones and K Jones. Assuming he is able to at least match Jones' stats last year (no reason to think otherwise if he stays healthy), I would take him over any of these backs except Westbrook.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I am going to wait and see an official statement after an MRI etc.

And anyone who takes a chance on Benson in the 2nd Round of a 12 teamer is rolling the dice big time.

No guarantees he can be a great back.

I would let someone else take that shot in the second round.

Now 3rd round....yeah ok I can see that.

Depends on the situation. I think if Jones is out, and Benson wins the job outright he would be worth a second round pick. Right now ADP backs in the second round are Westbrook, McGahee, D. Davis, Parker, Lewis, J. Jones and K Jones. Assuming he is able to at least match Jones' stats last year (no reason to think otherwise if he stays healthy), I would take him over any of these backs except Westbrook.

 

[RBM]

TJ said its just a tweak and he is day to day

 

[SammyJankis]

How the hell do you get injured during a physical?

We're talking about a guy that broke his hand forcing him to miss the rest of the season while answering the phone. Do not underestimate T.J.'s propencity for injury.....

 

[sholditch]

TJ said its just a tweak and he is day to day

That's what I thought. Just a big tease fr Benson owners

 

[joffer]

so he's day-to-day for 6 weeks....clear as mud.

 

[sholditch]

I think he's just day to day. Still every day he misses with this is a chance for Benson to entrench himself further as the starter.

I have to say, that as a Bears fan I like Jones and think he is getting a bit of a raw deal in all of this. He had a great season last year in the best Bear's season in years (better than 01 by far) and was making peanuts compared to the totally unproven bench warmer behind him. From Smith's comments, and Angelo's concern for his investment, I don't think he would have had a fair shot in camp anyway.

 

[Lightning Fast Whip]

sounds/smells a lot like Jerry Porters Calf injury to me.

 

[RBM]

was making peanuts compared to the totally unproven bench warmer behind him. .

Is the NFL draft process a new thing for you?

 

[sholditch]

No, but it's a legitimate gripe. Are agents a new thing to you?

 

[BigJim®]

Gee, I wonder if it's the same hammy Mike McKenzie pulled?

 

[The Ref]

Well there it is folks, the first big story of the season.

FF season is officially here boys. Congratulations.

 

[ebcpastor2004]

Just heard Adam Shefter on Total Access say that Benson is running with the first team and that it is his job to lose. Crackpot statement or truth? Draft coming up Sat. with the real potential of looking at Jones as my 3rd back. Cant' pull the trigger if he's not the one. What do you football guys think? Is it Benson's job to lose now or is Shefter just positing ideas?

 

[knowledge dropper]

Is this a dreaded "turn and cough" related injury?

 

[JohnnyU]

Just heard Adam Shefter on Total Access say that Benson is running with the first team and that it is his job to lose.  Crackpot statement or truth?  Draft coming up Sat. with the real potential of looking at Jones as my 3rd back.  Cant' pull the trigger if he's not the one.  What do you football guys think?  Is it Benson's job to lose now or is Shefter just positing ideas?

It was his job to lose as soon as they made him the #4 overall pick, just a matter of when. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Yes, Jones had a great year last year, but the Bears want Benson as their starter, rather than look stupid for drafting him so high.

 

[RBM]

Just heard Adam Shefter on Total Access say that Benson is running with the first team and that it is his job to lose. Crackpot statement or truth? Draft coming up Sat. with the real potential of looking at Jones as my 3rd back. Cant' pull the trigger if he's not the one. What do you football guys think? Is it Benson's job to lose now or is Shefter just positing ideas?

I figured in an open competition Benson would beat Jones out, so if he is playing from ahead I highly doubt Jones can catch him

 

[Bears_Man2]

Just heard Adam Shefter on Total Access say that Benson is running with the first team and that it is his job to lose. Crackpot statement or truth? Draft coming up Sat. with the real potential of looking at Jones as my 3rd back. Cant' pull the trigger if he's not the one. What do you football guys think? Is it Benson's job to lose now or is Shefter just positing ideas?

I agree with Shefter.The second Jones held out, the job was put in Benson's hands (fair or not). It makes little sense to reinsert Jones (whom they aren't renegotiating with) into the #1 spot and irk Benson too in the process. 1 unhappy back is better than 2

The transition was going to happen sooner or later. Jones holding out just made the decision easier. Could they go back to Jones? Anything is possible, but they've made their stand on this front & have to stick to it now. I think the Bears would like a split somehow. Jones doesn't want that because it means he's not getting more money because he's not 'the' guy.

One side doesn't have more leverage over the other. Right now, no one is banging on the doorstep for Jones (because he wants a new deal). The Bears don't have to deal Jones at all & can always wait to see want happens this preseason. The Bears gave Jones a pretty generous deal a couple years ago given his past. Jones has a right to want a new deal, but it ain't happening here given the money they've invested in Benson.