Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Tiger had a good year but one of the best played on the PGA tour in the last 40 years? It isn't a Top 10 year in Tiger's careerApple Jack said:
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Apple Jack
Footballguy
Name all the players who have won five or more tour events in one season, never mind five with fields that strong. As I say regularly, I'm not exactly a fan of the guy but people seem to check their brains at the door when discussing his accomplishments.
And what's the point in bringing the word "failure" into the conversation if you don't subscribe to it's application? Tiger said it was a good year. He never said it was a failure.
And what's the point in bringing the word "failure" into the conversation if you don't subscribe to it's application? Tiger said it was a good year. He never said it was a failure.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
zoonation
Footballguy
As pointed out, it isn't even one of his best seasons and wasn't better than the year tbe best player had in 2012. I was being dismissive of your hyperbolic claim.
Oh right, the deep fields argument. You don't need to say it again. I know you think that's a good argument.
That's what you always say. That you're not really a fan of Tiger, and then you slobber all over his ###, and offer not one word which could be viewed as critical. You defend him tooth and nail, if anyone claims he isn't perfect, or has failed to live up to his own expectations. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Because people detach themselves from reAlity to bag on greatness. It's ####### asinine. What other player ever has the word "failure" used in discussing a five win season? I understand you have a hard-on for the guy, but stop embarrassing yourself. Five wins is remarkable. For being great, not for being a failure.
ETA: I think it just boils down to the fact that some people:
A) Cannot consider some things they feel emotionally rationally.
B) Cannot connect things they see on television and in the press with reality.
And I only "defend him" when people say stupid ####. The things I see that could be criticized are to do with his personal life, which is why I say I don't particularly care for him. But I don't know him or what he does in his personal life beyond what was in the tabloids five years ago, and it's none of my business anyway. I stick to the golf.
ETA: I think it just boils down to the fact that some people:
A) Cannot consider some things they feel emotionally rationally.
B) Cannot connect things they see on television and in the press with reality.
And I only "defend him" when people say stupid ####. The things I see that could be criticized are to do with his personal life, which is why I say I don't particularly care for him. But I don't know him or what he does in his personal life beyond what was in the tabloids five years ago, and it's none of my business anyway. I stick to the golf.
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zoonation
Footballguy
I don't think anyone would suggest that a 5 win season is a failure. However, I think people are using that term contextually in reference to Tiger's goal of breaking Jack's record. As he again failed to win a major last year, by that metric the season was a failure.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
For the record, the only people other than Tiger to win five or more in a season in the last 30 years (it was common to see 5+ wins all the way up to the '70s because of the lack of depth):
2004 - Vijay Singh
1994 - Nick Price
What a failure.
2004 - Vijay Singh
1994 - Nick Price
What a failure.
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John Bender
Footballguy
It's all about Jacks record. It'd always been about Jacks record... In majors. To change the narrative now and act like it's not, is just being a disingenuous nut hugging Tiger tool. Just stop pretending it's not. He's probably the greatest golfer ever, I love him, but the trolls trying to act like he had a top 20 season of golf ever have zero credibility. For all you think you know about golf, you come off as a real moron here Aj.
zoonation
Footballguy
Apple Jack
Footballguy
The Majors record was motivation for him as a kid. It's what drove him. The media took that a ran with it guns blazing, all amplified to the loudest levels possible because of the crazy #### he was doing. But this is what I'm talking about when I say people can't detach what they see on TV and what is media-driven, from reality. Even if it is, privately, all he cares about, that doesn't mean the rest of the world is entitled to or is reasonable in carrying the same expectations. Talk about delusional.
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Apple Jack
Footballguy
"Well MJ, I know you really wanted to win seven titles. Totes failure. #suckitlooser!"
John Bender
Footballguy
So delusional.
lod01
Footballguy
Ok. It's cranking up in here. I like to wait until he wins one of his ham and egger classics where he always wins to pad his win totals but I got a gem of my own.Just an FYI, Jack has won on more courses with his 73 PGA wins than Stat Whore Woods has with his 79 PGA wins. Two of his favorites are the Bridgestone Ham & Egger & the Arnie Palmer Ham and Egger Classic.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
People who are focusing just on wins are forgetting how few tournaments Tiger actually plays. He plays mostly in premier events - Majors, World Golf Championships, or other premier tourneys/venues. He's not winning 5 out of 35 tournaments. It's 5 out of 22 or so. Nobody holds a candle to his career winning percentage. Tiger wins at 26+%. Jack Nicklaus won 16%. Sam Snead? 10%. Nuff said. If he can putt well and relax he can win Majors again. He just wants it too bad. I followed him during the 2nd round at Sherwood when he shot 62. He completely dominated the top golfers in the world. Unbeatable. Round 4? Different story. His game is back. Whether his nerve is is another story.
grateful zed
Footballguy
but, is ...
golf a sport?
golf a sport?
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Actually, a college buddy of mine's father was a rules official and tournament director on the South African tour (Buddy Young, also did some time on the PGA Tour) and was involved in a situation with Nick Price. The local rule was that a sponsor sign was considered an immovable obstruction, rather than a movable one. Which is pretty stupid, but Price blew it and still felt like he was wronged and raised holy hell on Buddy in private for it. Nick Price is by most accounts a world-class #######. He wanted to see the rules bent for him after he ####ed up. While I don't blame him for trying to get a favorable ruling, he was kinda trying to cheat.
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Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
I don't think chance means what you think it means.
Zow
Footballguy
Joe T
Footballguy
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Thread of the decade?
Underachievers
Footballguy
Yep, and will eventually say it is the thread of the last quarter century. This thread will still be going and TIger will still be trying to win another major.Mr. Pickles said:
grateful zed
Footballguy
chunderfest.
Joe T
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
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I am always looking for more of the Tiger haters to sign on for the same bet that zoo and otis have - which is $1000 that Tiger breaks Jack's record. Baloney Sandwich is the only taker so far, though at $500.
Thoughts?
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
I think he bounces back at the Omega Dubai Dessert Classic.
Joe T
Footballguy
yes, I am always on the lookout to find wagers with anonymous people I don't know on things that won't payout for 10 years or so.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
James Daulton
Footballguy
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
McIlroy seems out of his funk and has finally found the right Nike equipment for his game. I think when Tiger finally falls short of Jack people will look back on 2013 as a lost opportunity for Tiger. Rory should be steadily contending for majors and that is bad news for Tiger.
lod01
Footballguy
If this Eldrick guy can't even win one of the warm up ham -n- egger tourneys before the majors, he is useless in this thread. It's the only way to get what is left of the nuthuggers to show up and take their 4 beatdowns per year. I think all that is left is BobbyLayne, Apple Jack and maybe sho nuff. We need to get this bum a win so they come crawling out of their caves and start talking ####.
sho nuff
Footballguy
lod01
Footballguy
Guys, I hooked one.
lod01
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
your alias.Guys, I hooked one.
give this man the mop award.At the Waste Management Phoenix Open we don't call it garbage.Who's playing like garbage?Bubba playing well at the Waste Management Phoenix Open.
Crap, perhaps. #### most definitely.
Hey, it's an Arabic country. Maybe they used turkey ham instead of the real thing. That would explain it.
