Tiger Woods (4 Viewers)

[TheIronSheik]

10 strokes behind the winner in a tournament with nobodies playing? HE'S BACK!!!!!!

 

[Apple Jack]

Keep ####### that chicken.

 

[matuski]

10 strokes behind the winner in a tournament with nobodies playing? HE'S BACK!!!!!!

Ironsheik is to Tiger what pantherclub is to Manziel.

Can't let even the least positive posts get by without fighting them tooth and nail.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I post a lot while I'm at work. Sorry. Didn't realize you were new here, !. I have lots of posts in lots of threads.

And I don't have a hard-on for him. I actually couldn't care less. Do I enjoy seeing him struggle? Yes. Does it pain me if he does well? Not one bit. I merely pointed out that people who thought he was in contention when he was 9 strokes or so back were smoking crack. And it turned out I was right. I don't care if you like Tiger. I don't care if you root for him. I don't care about a lot of things. I was just simply being realistic. And when I was, people disagreed with me. That's cool. More power to you. But the facts remain. So keep talking about scoring averages over the past 50 years, or the course not being at the exact same conditions as other years, or whatever crazy conspiracies you feel relevant to help your argument. That's your decision. But you guys are coming off sounding ridiculous.

Still my favorite post of the thread.

 

[urbanhack]

 

[tom22406]

I'm certainly not going to say he's back but from the time I followed his group on Friday he certainly did look and acted like a much more confident golfer over what I've seen the last year or so.What does it mean for the PGA?I doubt much but it at least shows he has the ability to show spurts of his old self from time to time.

He's not back and he wasn't in contention on Sunday but at least he was improved which IMO is a small step forward.Making the cut at the PGA will be another step forward.

 

[Apple Jack]

He's definitely progressing. 300+ drives in the fairway regularly. Making putts consistently, and when he doesn't he's making the one coming back. His ability to recover and get up and down is back. Those are all significant developments. However, it sounds like he still has not exorcised "the big miss." That eats at him. Forget the hole on the back yesterday, but water down the left and he missed it right and went into another hazard. Those tee shots with driver still seem to #### with his head.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I love it. You guys are so outmatched in this argument, you've decided to go after me.

Funny thing is, guys like Hack who have golf knowledge are spouting off ridiculous statements in an attempt to prove that Tiger is on the rebound. How delusional must you be to still think this? Even if I hated Tiger with all of my heart and I thought about nothing other than him doing bad in tournaments, I'd still be winning because he hasn't proven me wrong.

The more you argue, the more ridiculous you look. So, by all means, keep coming at me in an attempt to prove that Tiger is back. I find it hilarious.

 

[Apple Jack]

They're not going after you because they are outmatched, they are going after you because you have become a babbling fool. And nobody has said Tiger is back. The whole Tiger is back meme was played out long ago. But keep ####### that chicken.

 

[TheIronSheik]

They're not going after you because they are outmatched, they are going after you because you have become a babbling fool. And nobody has said Tiger is back. The whole Tiger is back meme was played out long ago. But keep ####### that chicken.

Really? No one said he was back? Interesting.

 

[urbanhack]

I love it. You guys are so outmatched in this argument, you've decided to go after me.

Funny thing is, guys like Hack who have golf knowledge are spouting off ridiculous statements in an attempt to prove that Tiger is on the rebound.

Link?

Listen. I'm not an unabashed Tiger lover like Otis. My only dog in this fight is that I believe Tiger is good for the game of golf. If he doesn't make it back, oh well, those are the breaks. Am I pulling for him to succeed and come back, sure...it would be a great story.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I love it. You guys are so outmatched in this argument, you've decided to go after me.

Funny thing is, guys like Hack who have golf knowledge are spouting off ridiculous statements in an attempt to prove that Tiger is on the rebound.

Link?

Listen. I'm not an unabashed Tiger lover like Otis. My only dog in this fight is that I believe Tiger is good for the game of golf. If he doesn't make it back, oh well, those are the breaks. Am I pulling for him to succeed and come back, sure...it would be a great story.

That's fair enough. Tiger was great for the game and did amazing things for progressing the future of it.. No one can deny that. But at almost 40 years old, his time is over. Golfers just don't return to their once greatness at age 40. Could he come back and be better than average? Sure. Maybe for a couple more years like Phil. But even Phil is on the decline. I'm more excited about the future of golf with their new kids coming up. Do I hate Tiger? No. I really don't. Do I root for him? No. But who cares who I pull for?

 

[tom22406]

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[matuski]

10 strokes behind the winner in a tournament with nobodies playing? HE'S BACK!!!!!!

Ironsheik is to Tiger what pantherclub is to Manziel.

Can't let even the least positive posts get by without fighting them tooth and nail.

Tooth and nail.

 

[urbanhack]

I love it. You guys are so outmatched in this argument, you've decided to go after me.

Funny thing is, guys like Hack who have golf knowledge are spouting off ridiculous statements in an attempt to prove that Tiger is on the rebound.

Link?

Listen. I'm not an unabashed Tiger lover like Otis. My only dog in this fight is that I believe Tiger is good for the game of golf. If he doesn't make it back, oh well, those are the breaks. Am I pulling for him to succeed and come back, sure...it would be a great story.

That's fair enough. Tiger was great for the game and did amazing things for progressing the future of it.. No one can deny that. But at almost 40 years old, his time is over.

His time is not over if he can get his head screwed on straight. Physically, he's still capable of incredible shot-making with shots like that 5 wood on 17. But Tiger's problems are all in his head. I understand that he may not be able to ever match the intensity, concentration, focus and drive that he previously had. But physically, all the of the tools are still there. We'll see what happens.

BTW..did you find those ridiculous statements that I made?

 

[Apple Jack]

I love it. You guys are so outmatched in this argument, you've decided to go after me.

Funny thing is, guys like Hack who have golf knowledge are spouting off ridiculous statements in an attempt to prove that Tiger is on the rebound.

Link?

Listen. I'm not an unabashed Tiger lover like Otis. My only dog in this fight is that I believe Tiger is good for the game of golf. If he doesn't make it back, oh well, those are the breaks. Am I pulling for him to succeed and come back, sure...it would be a great story.

That's fair enough. Tiger was great for the game and did amazing things for progressing the future of it.. No one can deny that. But at almost 40 years old, his time is over. Golfers just don't return to their once greatness at age 40. Could he come back and be better than average? Sure. Maybe for a couple more years like Phil. But even Phil is on the decline. I'm more excited about the future of golf with their new kids coming up. Do I hate Tiger? No. I really don't. Do I root for him? No. But who cares who I pull for?

Except for the ones who, y'know, do. Phil played the best golf of his life in his 40s. Vijay sing played some of the best golf ever played in his 40s. Also? Golfers just don't win 14 Majors and 70+ PGA Tour events, so one of these things is not like the others.

 

[tom22406]

So, going back to 1960 here are some facts.

1. The average and median age for major champions is 32. It skews a little younger at the British Open (median of 31) and a little older at the PGA Championship (median of 33), but it’s basically 32. That number has stayed pretty constant for 50-plus years. That’s your peak: age 32.

2. Players 35 and younger have won more than three-quarters of all the majors since 1960. It may be hard to believe, but it’s a young man’s game.

3. Less than 10 percent – just 20 of 216 – of all majors were won by players 40 and over. It does happen, especially at the British Open (the last three British Open champions were all 40-somethings). But since 2000, only one golfer – 41-year-old Vijay Singh – has won a Masters, U.S. Open or PGA Championship.

4. Only two players in the last 54 years – Nicklaus in ’86 and Julius Boros in ’68 – were 46 or older when they won a Grand Slam title.

Here’s a quick chart of major championship winners by age if you are interested:

• Age 20-25: 24 (11%)

• Age 26-30: 64 (30%)

• Age 31-35: 76 (35%)

• Age 36-40: 34 (16%)

• Age 41-over: 19 (8%)

Clock and history is clearly not in Tiger's favor to win another major but if anybody can do it he would be at the top of the list.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I love it. You guys are so outmatched in this argument, you've decided to go after me.

Funny thing is, guys like Hack who have golf knowledge are spouting off ridiculous statements in an attempt to prove that Tiger is on the rebound.

Link?

Listen. I'm not an unabashed Tiger lover like Otis. My only dog in this fight is that I believe Tiger is good for the game of golf. If he doesn't make it back, oh well, those are the breaks. Am I pulling for him to succeed and come back, sure...it would be a great story.

That's fair enough. Tiger was great for the game and did amazing things for progressing the future of it.. No one can deny that. But at almost 40 years old, his time is over.

His time is not over if he can get his head screwed on straight. Physically, he's still capable of incredible shot-making with shots like that 5 wood on 17. But Tiger's problems are all in his head. I understand that he may not be able to ever match the intensity, concentration, focus and drive that he previously had. But physically, all the of the tools are still there. We'll see what happens.

BTW..did you find those ridiculous statements that I made?

First off, if I attributed something you did not say to you, I apologize. I was catching up on everything I missed over the weekend and I may have thought you had said something that you actually didn't. If that's so, that's my bad.

As for your analysis of him, I disagree. But these are merely opinions. And I respect yours.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I love it. You guys are so outmatched in this argument, you've decided to go after me.

Funny thing is, guys like Hack who have golf knowledge are spouting off ridiculous statements in an attempt to prove that Tiger is on the rebound.

Link?

Listen. I'm not an unabashed Tiger lover like Otis. My only dog in this fight is that I believe Tiger is good for the game of golf. If he doesn't make it back, oh well, those are the breaks. Am I pulling for him to succeed and come back, sure...it would be a great story.

That's fair enough. Tiger was great for the game and did amazing things for progressing the future of it.. No one can deny that. But at almost 40 years old, his time is over. Golfers just don't return to their once greatness at age 40. Could he come back and be better than average? Sure. Maybe for a couple more years like Phil. But even Phil is on the decline. I'm more excited about the future of golf with their new kids coming up. Do I hate Tiger? No. I really don't. Do I root for him? No. But who cares who I pull for?

Except for the ones who, y'know, do. Phil played the best golf of his life in his 40s. Vijay sing played some of the best golf ever played in his 40s. Also? Golfers just don't win 14 Majors and 70+ PGA Tour events, so one of these things is not like the others.

So you're saying because 2 out of hundreds did it, he should be able to do it? As for your last point, I have no idea what you're getting at there. Look at guys like David Duval who was number one in the world and just fell off the golf planet. It happens. Sometimes you lose it gracefully, other times you just lose it. It happens both ways. But show me an example of a guy who just lost it for 10 years, then turned 40 and then regained it again.

 

[Apple Jack]

 

[tom22406]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

 

[TobiasFunke]

I love it. You guys are so outmatched in this argument, you've decided to go after me.

Funny thing is, guys like Hack who have golf knowledge are spouting off ridiculous statements in an attempt to prove that Tiger is on the rebound.

Link?

Listen. I'm not an unabashed Tiger lover like Otis. My only dog in this fight is that I believe Tiger is good for the game of golf. If he doesn't make it back, oh well, those are the breaks. Am I pulling for him to succeed and come back, sure...it would be a great story.

That's fair enough. Tiger was great for the game and did amazing things for progressing the future of it.. No one can deny that. But at almost 40 years old, his time is over. Golfers just don't return to their once greatness at age 40. Could he come back and be better than average? Sure. Maybe for a couple more years like Phil. But even Phil is on the decline. I'm more excited about the future of golf with their new kids coming up. Do I hate Tiger? No. I really don't. Do I root for him? No. But who cares who I pull for?

Except for the ones who, y'know, do. Phil played the best golf of his life in his 40s. Vijay sing played some of the best golf ever played in his 40s. Also? Golfers just don't win 14 Majors and 70+ PGA Tour events, so one of these things is not like the others.

So you're saying because 2 out of hundreds did it, he should be able to do it? As for your last point, I have no idea what you're getting at there. Look at guys like David Duval who was number one in the world and just fell off the golf planet. It happens. Sometimes you lose it gracefully, other times you just lose it. It happens both ways. But show me an example of a guy who just lost it for 10 years, then turned 40 and then regained it again.

Ah, the part where we totally ignore the fact that Tiger was the best golfer on the planet just two years ago. One of my favorite chicken-####ing positions.

 

[Apple Jack]

Ten years? Well, Tiger was #1 in the world last year, so it could be awhile before we find the answer to that. And David Duval and his one Major Championship is a great comparison to Tiger and his 14. Again, one of these things is not like the others.

 

[Apple Jack]

As for losing the #1 ranking and getting it back, there was that one guy who had it in 1997 then lost it and got it back, then lost it again in 1998 and got it back, then lost it in again in 1999 and got it back, then lost it again in 2004 and got it back, then lost it again in 2010 and got it back.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

I'm not discounting that year. He had a very good year that year, obviously. But over a ten year period, he's been crap for 9 of those 10 years. I'm going to say that the 10% outcome is probably the anomaly.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Ten years? Well, Tiger was #1 in the world last year, so it could be awhile before we find the answer to that. And David Duval and his one Major Championship is a great comparison to Tiger and his 14. Again, one of these things is not like the others.

You keep acting like you've won the argument somehow. And this is what I find hysterical. Tiger is crap right now, yet you are throwing stats at me trying to prove he's not.

 

[tom22406]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

I'm not discounting that year. He had a very good year that year, obviously. But over a ten year period, he's been crap for 9 of those 10 years. I'm going to say that the 10% outcome is probably the anomaly.

So from 2006-15 he has 33 PGA wins(4 of them majors),10 2nds is having a crap 10 years?

Now I know you're fishing.

 

[Apple Jack]

Ten years? Well, Tiger was #1 in the world last year, so it could be awhile before we find the answer to that. And David Duval and his one Major Championship is a great comparison to Tiger and his 14. Again, one of these things is not like the others.

You keep acting like you've won the argument somehow. And this is what I find hysterical. Tiger is crap right now, yet you are throwing stats at me trying to prove he's not.

You keep acting like people are saying things they are not. And a bit like you've developed a glue sniffing habit.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

I'm not discounting that year. He had a very good year that year, obviously. But over a ten year period, he's been crap for 9 of those 10 years. I'm going to say that the 10% outcome is probably the anomaly.

So from 2006-15 he has 33 PGA wins(4 of them majors),10 2nds is having a crap 10 years?

Now I know you're fishing.

I'm using 10 years as a guess. I can assure you, GB, I'm not actually going back and finding the exact date of his downfall. But let me make it clear, I'm talking about from that fateful Thanksgiving night onward. Not sure of the date.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Ten years? Well, Tiger was #1 in the world last year, so it could be awhile before we find the answer to that. And David Duval and his one Major Championship is a great comparison to Tiger and his 14. Again, one of these things is not like the others.

You keep acting like you've won the argument somehow. And this is what I find hysterical. Tiger is crap right now, yet you are throwing stats at me trying to prove he's not.

You keep acting like people are saying things they are not. And a bit like you've developed a glue sniffing habit.

OK.

 

[tom22406]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

I'm not discounting that year. He had a very good year that year, obviously. But over a ten year period, he's been crap for 9 of those 10 years. I'm going to say that the 10% outcome is probably the anomaly.

So from 2006-15 he has 33 PGA wins(4 of them majors),10 2nds is having a crap 10 years?

Now I know you're fishing.

I'm using 10 years as a guess. I can assure you, GB, I'm not actually going back and finding the exact date of his downfall. But let me make it clear, I'm talking about from that fateful Thanksgiving night onward. Not sure of the date.

Had you just said since his 2013 player of year award he has been garbage I doubt anybody would even be discussing this and he will admit it.16 tournaments,0 victories and only 3 top 25's.

Losing the mental edge is his biggest obstacle IMO,his physical ability still seems to be solid when at full health.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

I'm not discounting that year. He had a very good year that year, obviously. But over a ten year period, he's been crap for 9 of those 10 years. I'm going to say that the 10% outcome is probably the anomaly.

So from 2006-15 he has 33 PGA wins(4 of them majors),10 2nds is having a crap 10 years?

Now I know you're fishing.

I'm using 10 years as a guess. I can assure you, GB, I'm not actually going back and finding the exact date of his downfall. But let me make it clear, I'm talking about from that fateful Thanksgiving night onward. Not sure of the date.

Had you just said since his 2013 player of year award he has been garbage I doubt anybody would even be discussing this and he will admit it.16 tournaments,0 victories and only 3 top 25's.

Losing the mental edge is his biggest obstacle IMO,his physical ability still seems to be solid when at full health.

Sure, but will he ever be at full health again? And that's a legitimate question to ask.

I've said it before, even though people in this thread like to use me as the anti-Tiger guy, I think it's possible he comes back to competitive form for a year or two. I don't think he'll challenge the major record, but I'm not thinking he'll never win a tournament again. I'd probably guess that he'll be somewhere below the middle of that.

 

[urbanhack]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

I'm not discounting that year. He had a very good year that year, obviously. But over a ten year period, he's been crap for 9 of those 10 years. I'm going to say that the 10% outcome is probably the anomaly.

So from 2006-15 he has 33 PGA wins(4 of them majors),10 2nds is having a crap 10 years?

Now I know you're fishing.

I'm using 10 years as a guess. I can assure you, GB, I'm not actually going back and finding the exact date of his downfall. But let me make it clear, I'm talking about from that fateful Thanksgiving night onward. Not sure of the date.

Had you just said since his 2013 player of year award he has been garbage I doubt anybody would even be discussing this and he will admit it.16 tournaments,0 victories and only 3 top 25's.

Losing the mental edge is his biggest obstacle IMO,his physical ability still seems to be solid when at full health.

Sure, but will he ever be at full health again? And that's a legitimate question to ask.

What part of his game makes you think he's not fully healthy?

 

[17seconds]

These scores in the 60s are fools gold. Some of you see a 66 and a 68 and because it's Tiger you think something special is happening.

Take any mid-level tour player and look at his scores. They all do this. If you aren't capable of a 66, you can't stay on tour.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

I'm not discounting that year. He had a very good year that year, obviously. But over a ten year period, he's been crap for 9 of those 10 years. I'm going to say that the 10% outcome is probably the anomaly.

So from 2006-15 he has 33 PGA wins(4 of them majors),10 2nds is having a crap 10 years?

Now I know you're fishing.

I'm using 10 years as a guess. I can assure you, GB, I'm not actually going back and finding the exact date of his downfall. But let me make it clear, I'm talking about from that fateful Thanksgiving night onward. Not sure of the date.

Had you just said since his 2013 player of year award he has been garbage I doubt anybody would even be discussing this and he will admit it.16 tournaments,0 victories and only 3 top 25's.

Losing the mental edge is his biggest obstacle IMO,his physical ability still seems to be solid when at full health.

Sure, but will he ever be at full health again? And that's a legitimate question to ask.

What part of his game makes you think he's not fully healthy?

He's had back issues for a while now. Back issues are a terrible thing. And I think a lot of the times when he's trying to perform shots, he's operating with the thought that he used to be able to make such shots. I'm not comparing myself to Tiger by any means (BY ANY MEANS!), but I know there are times I'll attempt a shot and my back just can't do what it used to. I'm sure we've all had something like that happen. You visualize the shot, you run it over and over before you swing, but as you go to take the shot, your body can't do what it used to do.

I think Tiger is experiencing a lot of this. He's swinging like he used to swing when he was 25. But his body isn't 25. It can't keep up. You could hear them talking about it yesterday during his round, when he dials his game back a notch, he seems to be very good. He's much more accurate. But as soon as he starts swinging hard and trying to make shots like 25 year old Tiger, things go awry. Maybe not always. The 5W shot you mentioned was a beautiful shot by him. But that's not the norm anymore. If he dialed it back a notch, I think you'd see an improvement in his game. But how do you tell Tiger Woods not to swing like the person he used to be?

 

[urbanhack]

These scores in the 60s are fools gold. Some of you see a 66 and a 68 and because it's Tiger you think something special is happening.

Take any mid-level tour player and look at his scores. They all do this. If you aren't capable of a 66, you can't stay on tour.

What did Justin Rose, Bill Haas and the other "top" golfers in contention shoot at the same course yesterday?

 

[lod01]

Once he scores a couple of ham and egger classic victories, he will be brimming with the confidence he needs.

 

[McGarnicle]

So are you saying Tiger has lost his game for 10 years?

It's almost like 2013 never happened I guess?

I'm not discounting that year. He had a very good year that year, obviously. But over a ten year period, he's been crap for 9 of those 10 years. I'm going to say that the 10% outcome is probably the anomaly.

So from 2006-15 he has 33 PGA wins(4 of them majors),10 2nds is having a crap 10 years?Now I know you're fishing.

I'm using 10 years as a guess. I can assure you, GB, I'm not actually going back and finding the exact date of his downfall. But let me make it clear, I'm talking about from that fateful Thanksgiving night onward. Not sure of the date.

Had you just said since his 2013 player of year award he has been garbage I doubt anybody would even be discussing this and he will admit it.16 tournaments,0 victories and only 3 top 25's.Losing the mental edge is his biggest obstacle IMO,his physical ability still seems to be solid when at full health.

Sure, but will he ever be at full health again? And that's a legitimate question to ask.

What part of his game makes you think he's not fully healthy?

He's had back issues for a while now. Back issues are a terrible thing. And I think a lot of the times when he's trying to perform shots, he's operating with the thought that he used to be able to make such shots. I'm not comparing myself to Tiger by any means (BY ANY MEANS!), but I know there are times I'll attempt a shot and my back just can't do what it used to. I'm sure we've all had something like that happen. You visualize the shot, you run it over and over before you swing, but as you go to take the shot, your body can't do what it used to do. I think Tiger is experiencing a lot of this. He's swinging like he used to swing when he was 25. But his body isn't 25. It can't keep up. You could hear them talking about it yesterday during his round, when he dials his game back a notch, he seems to be very good. He's much more accurate. But as soon as he starts swinging hard and trying to make shots like 25 year old Tiger, things go awry. Maybe not always. The 5W shot you mentioned was a beautiful shot by him. But that's not the norm anymore. If he dialed it back a notch, I think you'd see an improvement in his game. But how do you tell Tiger Woods not to swing like the person he used to be?

He was already having issues with the driver by 2006, and won the British that year using the driver just once all week. But if you watch his swing from back then and compare it to now, it looks completely different. It's been pointed out countless times in this thread how dumb it was for him to change his swing, but I wonder if he had no choice because of his injuries?

 

[TheIronSheik]

These scores in the 60s are fools gold. Some of you see a 66 and a 68 and because it's Tiger you think something special is happening.

Take any mid-level tour player and look at his scores. They all do this. If you aren't capable of a 66, you can't stay on tour.

What did Justin Rose, Bill Haas and the other "top" golfers in contention shoot at the same course yesterday?

Bill Haas beat Tiger by 4 strokes.

 

[Apple Jack]

These scores in the 60s are fools gold. Some of you see a 66 and a 68 and because it's Tiger you think something special is happening.

Take any mid-level tour player and look at his scores. They all do this. If you aren't capable of a 66, you can't stay on tour.

What did Justin Rose, Bill Haas and the other "top" golfers in contention shoot at the same course yesterday?

Bill Haas beat Tiger by 4 strokes.

He shot 70, Tiger shot 68. #kftc

 

[TheIronSheik]

These scores in the 60s are fools gold. Some of you see a 66 and a 68 and because it's Tiger you think something special is happening.

Take any mid-level tour player and look at his scores. They all do this. If you aren't capable of a 66, you can't stay on tour.

What did Justin Rose, Bill Haas and the other "top" golfers in contention shoot at the same course yesterday?

Bill Haas beat Tiger by 4 strokes.

He shot 70, Tiger shot 68. #kftc

Excellent point.

 

[Dark Matter]

Page 9 at the start of the 2015 PGA Championship. The question is, will Tiger end up on page 9 of the leader board? Some gnarley rough at WS, he'll be lucky to make it out of there in one piece.

 

[TheIronSheik]

He's playing much better. I have a feeling that this is the what "normal" Tiger Woods will look like from now on.

 

[TheIronSheik]

He may only have 1 birdie, but he's got 3 F-bombs. So not all bad.

 

[lod01]

Definitely got it going today. Solid round so far.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Definitely got it going today. Solid round so far.

Yup. Only 2 shots behind John Daly.

 

[TheIronSheik]

And his fourth F-bomb.

 

[tommyboy]

working on the cut now. he'll probbaly need to shoot 7 under tomorrow to survive

 

[encaitar]

The thing that's most shocking to me is how poor his putting is this year. It just shows that he hasn't been playing enough IMO. He had 11 birdie putts that were in a make able range today and he made 2 of them. Less than 20% on make able birdie putts is definitely not the Tiger Woods we remember him being. Plus he is missing those 8 foot par putts that he drained consistently all of his career.

Sure, his swing change and problems with that is well documented at this point, but it's his putting that has really kept him from getting him into real contention, even when he does swing the club well.

 

[tommyboy]

Doesnt surprise me re: putting. Hes spending 90% of his practice on his swing