timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (2 Viewers)

[BobbyLayne]

I'll tag up with Roberto Layne. Make it so.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I would join only if i can team up with Andy and he does most of the work.

 

[rikishiboy]

Instead of a no idea what the movie is about....how about a simple flex. The flex must fit a category and gets added to the others of that category to be judged. If we keep it "No Idea" I am likely to just draft something foreign I don't understand.

 

[Mister CIA]

I'll play if there is room left.

 

[timschochet]

Instead of a no idea what the movie is about....how about a simple flex. The flex must fit a category and gets added to the others of that category to be judged. If we keep it "No Idea" I am likely to just draft something foreign I don't understand.

No. This is a category I want. The film should be confusing and strange. We need an artsy pretentious judge. I nominate Krista or her husband. They've watched all of these flicks.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Categories kinda suck. Can we get new ones?

 

[ScottNorwood]

I'll tag up with Roberto Layne. Make it so.

This and your recent observation in one of the Pickles threads that "engage" was still a proper usage when ordering warp speed has convinced me that you're a TNG fan. True?

Yes, huge Star Trek geek. Here's my likely pick for best fight scene:

 

[ScottNorwood]

Categories kinda suck. Can we get new ones?

In an attempt to be more constructive, I think we should choose either Movies, Scenes or Portrayals instead of a mishmosh of all 3

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

IN

I'd also like to judge:

Best choreographed rape scene

and most obviously fake sex scene

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Instead of a no idea what the movie is about....how about a simple flex. The flex must fit a category and gets added to the others of that category to be judged. If we keep it "No Idea" I am likely to just draft something foreign I don't understand.

No. This is a category I want. The film should be confusing and strange. We need an artsy pretentious judge. I nominate Krista or her husband. They've watched all of these flicks.

The judge has to be 100% clear on their judgement though.Someone might draft something with no idea what it's about and a pretentious film judge might give it a 1 and say it is clearly about the plight of Malaysian gorillas living in 17 story skyscrapers whilst eeking a living as the drummer in Mozart tribute bands.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Instead of a no idea what the movie is about....how about a simple flex. The flex must fit a category and gets added to the others of that category to be judged. If we keep it "No Idea" I am likely to just draft something foreign I don't understand.

No. This is a category I want. The film should be confusing and strange. We need an artsy pretentious judge. I nominate Krista or her husband. They've watched all of these flicks.

The judge has to be 100% clear on their judgement though.Someone might draft something with no idea what it's about and a pretentious film judge might give it a 1 and say it is clearly about the plight of Malaysian gorillas living in 17 story skyscrapers whilst eeking a living as the drummer in Mozart tribute bands.

Isn't that part of the fun?

 

[krista4]

Instead of a no idea what the movie is about....how about a simple flex. The flex must fit a category and gets added to the others of that category to be judged. If we keep it "No Idea" I am likely to just draft something foreign I don't understand.

No. This is a category I want. The film should be confusing and strange. We need an artsy pretentious judge. I nominate Krista or her husband. They've watched all of these flicks.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I will judge long take and probably one other category.

Can we draft adult entertainment?

 

[krista4]

Instead of a no idea what the movie is about....how about a simple flex. The flex must fit a category and gets added to the others of that category to be judged. If we keep it "No Idea" I am likely to just draft something foreign I don't understand.

No. This is a category I want. The film should be confusing and strange. We need an artsy pretentious judge. I nominate Krista or her husband. They've watched all of these flicks.

The judge has to be 100% clear on their judgement though.Someone might draft something with no idea what it's about and a pretentious film judge might give it a 1 and say it is clearly about the plight of Malaysian gorillas living in 17 story skyscrapers whilst eeking a living as the drummer in Mozart tribute bands.

Thanks for spotlighting my pick.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Here's my criteria for Nazi flicks.1. The film needs to be about Nazis. Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, or submarine officers are not necessarily Nazis. Nazis means Hitler and his buddies, members of the SS, Gestapo, storm troopers, or Nazi party in general. Modern day Nazis are fine. 2. The more entertaining the film, the better it will do. If you select some artsy flick that is great on style but low on drama, expect to be punished. I don't want to be bored.3. That's all.

Do the Nazi's have to be the bad guys?

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

So the answer to my question from earlier is what? Are judges expected to watch the movies in their categories? How does this aspect work, anybody? I tried to be self-deprecating in asking this before, but that didn't work out, so now I'll just be a doosh.

I'm not going to demand of any judge that they sit through every movie- otherwise we'll never get to the judging. I would hope they are familar with the film and have seen it in the past. If not, perhaps in those rare cases we could request a guest judge who has seen the film to give it a proper ranking.For the scene categories, I would like each judge to watch each scene on Youtube. I would hope that everyone who volunteers to be a judge will know something about the subject. I'm judging Nazi flicks and I feel pretty confident about that, since I think I've seen just about every major Nazi flick that's ever come out (and most minor ones as well). I would not be a good judge for the drug movies, since I've only seen a few of those.

If I judge any categories I WILL watch the entire movie, if I haven't seen it already, and will judge the context of the scene (if that's a category I'm judging) against the backdrop of the movie

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

NO mulligans.

NO category switching.

You draft it, you own it.

I don't think most would have a problem with these, tim. But it would be nice to have the judges state their criteria in advance, and I'm all for delaying the draft a couple/few days to allow for this.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

My concern about a couple of the movie categories = we will get 15 picks featuring 3 movie franchises.

then let's not allow it. You get one film from a franchise. Once the film is taken, no other picks from that franchise are allowed.

Period? So if I draft Leprechaun as an Irish movie, nobody else can draft that or any other movie in the franchise for another category? Ie somebody else can't have Leprechaun in the Hood as scariest scene?

Sure, why not?

Are you going to police this shit?If a category is so narrow that only certain movie franchises dominate it, then it is not a good category.

Fix the category choice or waste your time on stupid franchise arguments

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Softcore porn ok, right?

What about hardcore?

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

A movie draft you say... :scratcheschin:Sure, why not?

Now someone gets to take all the bad movies

 

[Aerial Assault]

I'll tag up with Roberto Layne. Make it so.

This and your recent observation in one of the Pickles threads that "engage" was still a proper usage when ordering warp speed has convinced me that you're a TNG fan. True?

Yes, huge Star Trek geek. Here's my likely pick for best fight scene:

Well played!

 

[timschochet]

My concern about a couple of the movie categories = we will get 15 picks featuring 3 movie franchises.

then let's not allow it. You get one film from a franchise. Once the film is taken, no other picks from that franchise are allowed.

Period? So if I draft Leprechaun as an Irish movie, nobody else can draft that or any other movie in the franchise for another category? Ie somebody else can't have Leprechaun in the Hood as scariest scene?

Sure, why not?

Are you going to police this shit?If a category is so narrow that only certain movie franchises dominate it, then it is not a good category.

Fix the category choice or waste your time on stupid franchise arguments

1.No.2. Says you.

3. No.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

My concern about a couple of the movie categories = we will get 15 picks featuring 3 movie franchises.

then let's not allow it. You get one film from a franchise. Once the film is taken, no other picks from that franchise are allowed.

Period? So if I draft Leprechaun as an Irish movie, nobody else can draft that or any other movie in the franchise for another category? Ie somebody else can't have Leprechaun in the Hood as scariest scene?

Sure, why not?

Are you going to police this shit?If a category is so narrow that only certain movie franchises dominate it, then it is not a good category.

Fix the category choice or waste your time on stupid franchise arguments

1.No.2. Says you.

3. No.

So your not going to police it, but when people whine about the Balthazar the Donkey movies dominating the Bestiality category you'll make impromptu judgement calls?

 

[ScottNorwood]

Categories kinda suck. Can we get new ones?

In an attempt to be more constructive, I think we should choose either Movies, Scenes or Portrayals instead of a mishmosh of all 3

Who is with me? I'll bang out all 30 categories if need be. The more creative the cats, the more fun this will be

 

[timschochet]

Categories kinda suck. Can we get new ones?

In an attempt to be more constructive, I think we should choose either Movies, Scenes or Portrayals instead of a mishmosh of all 3

Who is with me? I'll bang out all 30 categories if need be. The more creative the cats, the more fun this will be

Start your own ####### draft.

 

[timschochet]

My concern about a couple of the movie categories = we will get 15 picks featuring 3 movie franchises.

then let's not allow it. You get one film from a franchise. Once the film is taken, no other picks from that franchise are allowed.

Period? So if I draft Leprechaun as an Irish movie, nobody else can draft that or any other movie in the franchise for another category? Ie somebody else can't have Leprechaun in the Hood as scariest scene?

Sure, why not?

Are you going to police this shit?If a category is so narrow that only certain movie franchises dominate it, then it is not a good category.

Fix the category choice or waste your time on stupid franchise arguments

1.No.2. Says you.

3. No.

So your not going to police it, but when people whine about the Balthazar the Donkey movies dominating the Bestiality category you'll make impromptu judgement calls?

Yes

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

My concern about a couple of the movie categories = we will get 15 picks featuring 3 movie franchises.

then let's not allow it. You get one film from a franchise. Once the film is taken, no other picks from that franchise are allowed.

Period? So if I draft Leprechaun as an Irish movie, nobody else can draft that or any other movie in the franchise for another category? Ie somebody else can't have Leprechaun in the Hood as scariest scene?

Sure, why not?

Are you going to police this shit?If a category is so narrow that only certain movie franchises dominate it, then it is not a good category.

Fix the category choice or waste your time on stupid franchise arguments

1.No.2. Says you.

3. No.

So your not going to police it, but when people whine about the Balthazar the Donkey movies dominating the Bestiality category you'll make impromptu judgement calls?

Yes

Same as it ever was

 

[ScottNorwood]

Scenes

1. shocking scene

2. Dance scene

3. romantic gesture

4. shootout

5. fight scene

6. gambling scene

7. car chase

8. monologue (speech)

9. courtroom scene

10. classroom scene

11. shooting a movie scene

12. most realistic sports scene

13. dream sequence

14. scene that scared you as a kid

15. long take

16. scene where an animal speaks

17. scene involving food

18. scene that takes place on a boat

19. scene that takes place on a plane

20. scene involving an offputting odor

21. wrestling scene

22. scene involving a black person and a white person

23. scene that takes place in a park

24. scene where someone wears a suit of armor

25. phonecall scene

26. scene where someone gets a haircut

27. raining

28. monster

29. gross out

30. WTF scene

 

[ScottNorwood]

Categories kinda suck. Can we get new ones?

In an attempt to be more constructive, I think we should choose either Movies, Scenes or Portrayals instead of a mishmosh of all 3

Who is with me? I'll bang out all 30 categories if need be. The more creative the cats, the more fun this will be

Start your own ####### draft.

I was starting drafts back when you were pooping your diaper in the shark pool, kid

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Categories kinda suck. Can we get new ones?

In an attempt to be more constructive, I think we should choose either Movies, Scenes or Portrayals instead of a mishmosh of all 3

Who is with me? I'll bang out all 30 categories if need be. The more creative the cats, the more fun this will be

Start your own ####### draft.

I was starting drafts back when you were pooping your diaper in the shark pool, kid

Confirmed

 

[Aerial Assault]

I like Norwood's idea better, frankly.

 

[KarmaPolice]

So the answer to my question from earlier is what? Are judges expected to watch the movies in their categories? How does this aspect work, anybody? I tried to be self-deprecating in asking this before, but that didn't work out, so now I'll just be a doosh.

I'm not going to demand of any judge that they sit through every movie- otherwise we'll never get to the judging. I would hope they are familar with the film and have seen it in the past. If not, perhaps in those rare cases we could request a guest judge who has seen the film to give it a proper ranking.For the scene categories, I would like each judge to watch each scene on Youtube. I would hope that everyone who volunteers to be a judge will know something about the subject. I'm judging Nazi flicks and I feel pretty confident about that, since I think I've seen just about every major Nazi flick that's ever come out (and most minor ones as well). I would not be a good judge for the drug movies, since I've only seen a few of those.

If I judge any categories I WILL watch the entire movie, if I haven't seen it already, and will judge the context of the scene (if that's a category I'm judging) against the backdrop of the movie

Judge how you want, but I don't see the point of this. Who cares if the rest of the movie is about a zombie apocalypse if it has a kick ### car chase that fits the category? I understand watching the whole film for those categories, but don't see the point for the scene categories.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Per wiki:

A long take or oner is an uninterrupted shot in a film which lasts much longer than the conventional editing pace either of the film itself or of films in general, usually lasting several minutes. It can be used for dramatic and narrative effect if done properly, and in moving shots is often accomplished through the use of a dolly or Steadicam. Long takes of a sequence filmed in one shot without any editing are rare in films.

What I am looking for:

1. just like it describes - long, unedited shots.

2. think about how bad it would be if there was a #### up - ie how complicated is the shot?

3. i realize there are movies out there that are all shot in one take or just a couple - don't draft these.

I will try to figure out a way to rank them for a couple categories - style, complication, how it fits with the movie, if I like the movie, if I like you, etc..

 

[KarmaPolice]

I think I will try my hand at scenes that scared you as a kid as well. For judging purposes, this will basically become scary scenes from movies targeted at kids. Looking for PG-ish movies that probably weren't marketed/intended as a horror movie. Otherwise this will just become a list of the usual scary scenes, which I don't think what was intended. So you saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre as a kid and it scared you? Well, no ####.

The rankings will be based on:

1. Is it still scary today?

2. I will rank them on what order I'd be willing to show them to my kid.

3. How does the scene feel vs. the rest of the movie - ie scenes coming out of nowhere will score a little higher on this one.

 

[timschochet]

I like Norwood's idea better, frankly.

Are there other people that agree with this? I like the mix myself, but if a majority of drafters think we should only do movie scenes then we will.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I like Norwood's idea better, frankly.

Are there other people that agree with this? I like the mix myself, but if a majority of drafters think we should only do movie scenes then we will.

I kinda like the idea of a scene draft, but either sounds fun. Not a fan of a couple of the categories at the end of the list though.

 

[Aerial Assault]

I think Scott's point was that it would be a little incoherent to have this proposed mix. Or at least that's what I think. I like scenes, films, and portrayals, but think they should be in separate drafts, one for each. For this one, I dig the idea of scenes. Just my 0.01.

 

[timschochet]

I think Scott's point was that it would be a little incoherent to have this proposed mix. Or at least that's what I think. I like scenes, films, and portrayals, but think they should be in separate drafts, one for each. For this one, I dig the idea of scenes. Just my 0.01.

I get that. But I like mixing it up. I think if we have 30 of any one of those, the categories may be somewhat weak. That;'s my opinion anyhow. Again, I'll go with the majority.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I like Norwood's idea better, frankly.

Are there other people that agree with this? I like the mix myself, but if a majority of drafters think we should only do movie scenes then we will.

I Don't Care. If I had a gun to my head, I'd prefer yours to Norwoods, but something like 51-49%I reserve the right to complain about the format of the draft once it has started though.No judge can post criteria or volunteer for anything until things are nailed down

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Is it too late for Val and me to join? We wanna play, too.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

I like Norwood's idea better, frankly.

Are there other people that agree with this? I like the mix myself, but if a majority of drafters think we should only do movie scenes then we will.

I Don't Care. If I had a gun to my head, I'd prefer yours to Norwoods, but something like 51-49%I reserve the right to complain about the format of the draft once it has started though.

No judge can post criteria or volunteer for anything until things are nailed down

Tim has already posted some criteria.

 

[timschochet]

Is it too late for Val and me to join? We wanna play, too.

Of course.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I like Norwood's idea better, frankly.

Are there other people that agree with this? I like the mix myself, but if a majority of drafters think we should only do movie scenes then we will.

I Don't Care. If I had a gun to my head, I'd prefer yours to Norwoods, but something like 51-49%I reserve the right to complain about the format of the draft once it has started though.

No judge can post criteria or volunteer for anything until things are nailed down

Tim has already posted some criteria.

Yeah, but Norwood is throwing a spanner in the works and thinks his idea will work better.Nothing is certain right now until either more people make an opinion or Tim makes a ruling

 

[timschochet]

That makes 25. We're all full now. I will set up a random order tomorrow. Suggest the clock starts Monday morning.

 

[timschochet]

I like Norwood's idea better, frankly.

Are there other people that agree with this? I like the mix myself, but if a majority of drafters think we should only do movie scenes then we will.

I Don't Care. If I had a gun to my head, I'd prefer yours to Norwoods, but something like 51-49%I reserve the right to complain about the format of the draft once it has started though.

No judge can post criteria or volunteer for anything until things are nailed down

Tim has already posted some criteria.

Yeah, but Norwood is throwing a spanner in the works and thinks his idea will work better.Nothing is certain right now until either more people make an opinion or Tim makes a ruling

Unless a whole bunch of drafters come in here and post that they prefer Norwood's idea, we're going with the categories as listed in the OP.

 

[Aerial Assault]

I like Norwood's idea better, frankly.

Are there other people that agree with this? I like the mix myself, but if a majority of drafters think we should only do movie scenes then we will.

I Don't Care. If I had a gun to my head, I'd prefer yours to Norwoods, but something like 51-49%I reserve the right to complain about the format of the draft once it has started though.

No judge can post criteria or volunteer for anything until things are nailed down

Tim has already posted some criteria.

Yeah, but Norwood is throwing a spanner in the works and thinks his idea will work better.Nothing is certain right now until either more people make an opinion or Tim makes a ruling

Unless a whole bunch of drafters come in here and post that they prefer Norwood's idea, we're going with the categories as listed in the OP.

This is unlikely at 1 A.M. Eastern.

But I failed to perceive the urgency in getting this thing started, so I'm officially on the Cool By Me Train. I will judge superheroes and dream sequences, and will post judging crtieria tomorrow.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Is it too late for Val and me to join? We wanna play, too.

Of course.

Ambiguity. Say it with me.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I'd be in favour of it being an all scene draft if some more time was spent getting suitable categories. As is, I think even the original 15 needs some fixing up; more specifically, replacing the best classroom scene with something that makes more sense.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Is it too late for Val and me to join? We wanna play, too.

Of course.

Ambiguity. Say it with me.

TIMTRANSLATOR [bEEP]:

No, it is not too late for you and Val to join, and both you and Val have been added to the list of drafters.

ENDTIMTRANSLATOR...SEEKING POLITICO-RELIGIOUS THREAD FOR NEXT PROJECT [bEEP]

 

[Toad_1234]

Is it too late for Val and me to join? We wanna play, too.

Of course.

Ambiguity. Say it with me.

TIMTRANSLATOR [bEEP]:

No, it is not too late for you and Val to join, and both you and Val have been added to the list of drafters.

ENDTIMTRANSLATOR...SEEKING POLITICO-RELIGIOUS THREAD FOR NEXT PROJECT [bEEP]