Time to let go? (1 Viewer)

[AllVolUT]

FWIW, I'd like to hear SSOG's take on 'the cheese'.

I'm definitely a Gouda kind of guy. Goat's milk, cow's milk, smoked or not, aged, unaged, it makes no difference- I love me some gouda.That is the kind of cheese you were talking about, right? Otherwise, I'm going to need you to be a bit more specific.

Haha. Henry's nickname, atleast at UT, was 'the cheese'. My bad.I'd like to hear your opinion on the guy...or who you think will be the guy to grab. I appreciate it.

 

[SSOG]

The funniest thing about people who badmouth Denver letting Portis go is that, if you look at team rushing totals, the three best rushing seasons in Denver history are 1998 (when Davis was running wild), 2003 (when Portis was running wild)... and 2005 (when Anderson and Bell were running wild). And of the three, you could easily argue that 2005 was the most impressive (2539/25 @ 4.7 ypc compared to 2629/20 @ 4.8 and 2468/26 @ 4.7 in 2003 and 1998, respectively). I mean, in the best post-Portis year, they had 90 fewer yards and 5 more TDs than in the best Portis year. And it was done with far worse weapons in the passing game (an old Rod Smith, Ashley Lelie, and Jeb Putzier vs. a less-old Rod Smith, Ashley Lelie, and Shannon Sharpe).

I'm not badmouthing the decision. I'm simply saying that the Broncos have had issues in terms of pass defense (as cited in my example above) with Bailey and without Portis their running game has been a mess the past two seasons and in my opinion looks like it's going to be a mess again this season. As I clearly stated, Bailey is a fine player, but I'm not sure the value he has provided to the defense has outshined the major issues the Broncos have had at the RB position for the majority of the time since Portis was traded. Correct me if I'm wrong, but have you not argued that Shanahan is not a RBBC proponent but has been forced into such a role because he hasn't had one RB he can depend on consistently? That right there is a strong argument about the value of what Portis brought to the Broncos because if he was still on the team there would be no week-to-week (and often quarter-to-quarter) search for a dependable RB. You wouldn't have to wonder if Mike Anderson or Tatum Bell or Mike Bell or Reuben Droughns or Travis Henry or Selvin Young or Andre Hall would be your guy in any given week - or on any given snap - you'd have your answer and that would alleviate a lot of potential headaches offensively.There is certainly value in what Champ Bailey brings to the CB position, but there's also value in what Clinton Portis brings to the RB position. The Broncos desperate attempt to find a starter they can rely on consistently the past three seasons is proof of that.

They'd be scrambling just as desperately to find a starting CB if they didn't have Champ Bailey, though.In my mind, Denver's running game woes have been far more attributable to injuries than to the loss of Portis. Mike Anderson was AWESOME for the Broncos in 2005, when they put up those ungodly rushing totals. Had he not gotten hurt in 2004, there's no reason to think he wouldn't have been great for them then, too. 2006 was sort of doomed to be a mess from the get-go, but Henry was playing well for the Broncos at the start of 2007 before that whole train got derailed. In addition, all of the injuries on the OLine over the past two years have definitely made a dramatic difference. If it hadn't been for injuries, Denver would have had very serviceable, reliable production at the RB position for pretty much the entirety of Portis's absence. Now, you can say that having Portis on the roster would have shaped everything up... but what if Portis had been the one to get injured, instead? He wasn't exactly the model of durability, remember. It's easy to second-guess the loss of Portis based on the way things played out, but if everyone had just stayed a bit healthier, I don't think we'd be having this discussion right now.

FWIW, I'd like to hear SSOG's take on 'the cheese'.

I'm definitely a Gouda kind of guy. Goat's milk, cow's milk, smoked or not, aged, unaged, it makes no difference- I love me some gouda.That is the kind of cheese you were talking about, right? Otherwise, I'm going to need you to be a bit more specific.

Haha. Henry's nickname, atleast at UT, was 'the cheese'. My bad.I'd like to hear your opinion on the guy...or who you think will be the guy to grab. I appreciate it.

When Denver acquired Henry, I hated the move. I thought he was my least favorite type of RB- a compiler, the kind of mediocre RB who posts quality stats simply because he keeps getting handed the ball rather than through any exceptional merit on his own part. I started getting really excited about the signing when word started coming out during TCs that he was looking awesome. In the end, based on his play on the field, I should have stuck with my gut- he's a good enough RB, but nothing really special, just good enough to compile if given the chance. If you have to own a Denver back, he's probably the Denver back to own, since Denver is definitely going to run a lot, and Shanahan's already said that Selvin Young won't be anything more than a CoP back. Not that there's anything wrong with being a compiler in Fantasy Football- Droughns and Gary were both compilers who served their fantasy owners right.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

2006 4.52

Thanks Tyranny

 

[fatness]

In defense of my Redskins, here's more information: the word around Washington was that Champ had gotten a local reporter knocked up and his wife was demanding that they move to another city.

I have to admit as a Reskin fan, I've never heard anything about this. And all I found about it in a quick search was this thread (NSFW language for those who care) which seems a bit juvenile, and seems to be in reaction to something posted somewhere else and not very expository. Who was the reporter and who was dishing the story? Just asking for information, since we're in the gossip time of year. Thanks.