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Grisham writes good legal thrillers, but I am not sure I'd say it is great literature.Hey I was an extra in this movie. It's great to be that close to great literature.
Grisham writes good legal thrillers, but I am not sure I'd say it is great literature.Hey I was an extra in this movie. It's great to be that close to great literature.
Do most of them have any knowledge of the party prior to Nixon?Is it possible that any Trump supporter has any idea of the history of the American Party from 1840-1860?
Ha I think I was ribbing Tim there, I was joking, my point somewhere further up was that Gridham doesn't belong on any 100 greatest books list but Tim explained these were just his favorite books which of course is cool by me.Grisham writes good legal thrillers, but I am not sure I'd say it is great literature.
I saw that after I posted. Tim was getting ribbed? I should have guessed.Ha I think I was ribbing Tim there, I was joking, my point somewhere further up was that Gridham doesn't belong on any 100 greatest books list but Tim explained these were just his favorite books which of course is cool by me.
On second though, Andy was an actual General who orchestrated the single greatest military upset of the 19th century and did other actual important stuff, while Donald is a casino owner who appears to know less than anything about almost every important subject.Then again, I may be overly pessimistic. Lots of analogies have been made for Donald Trump: to Hitler, to Mussolini, to Joe McCarthy, to George Wallace.
But perhaps he is simply the latest version of Andrew Jackson. Jackson was the first President who ran on populist themes and had the support of rednecks and uneducated people all over the place. And most historians consider him one of our better Presidents (not me, but I have a problem with the native American thing.) So perhaps Trump is only acting in the best American traditions? I doubt it, but I wanted at least to offer this possibility.
Jeebus wept. It got worse.Your choices of Stephen King books have been pretty atrocious so far.
I've got 6 King novels left on this list. 4 of them are pretty highly ranked (with 1 making the top 10). I'll be curious to see if your disdain continues.Jeebus wept. It got worse.
No wonder this thread was on page seven
I hope it doesn't. If I were ever to make a top 100 list, though, I doubt any of the King books you've chosen would make it at all. But I can't see myself making that kind of effort to organize my thoughts about my reading.I've got 6 King novels left on this list. 4 of them are pretty highly ranked (with 1 making the top 10). I'll be curious to see if your disdain continues.
The Stand has to be the top 10 one, right?I've got 6 King novels left on this list. 4 of them are pretty highly ranked (with 1 making the top 10). I'll be curious to see if your disdain continues.
Neither did King when he wrote it:51. Christine
Stephen King
1983, 526 pages
Horror
Christine is Stephen King's testament to the dreams of the American male teenager. The book starts off much like a 1980s John Hughes movie: nerdy guy, unpopular in school, gets a car, gets a hot girlfriend, becomes popular. Except of course, the car is haunted, means to possess Arnie (the teenager), and kill all of his friends including the hot girl. Can his best friend save him?
This is a pure classic horror novel in every way, well written and suspenseful, but it also captures the id and romance of high school, and our love affair with classic cars (though I'm not sure too many people would have considered a 57' Plymouth Fury a classic before this book came out.) I did have a friend years ago that drove an early 70s version of the Fury, not too far removed from the original design, and the thing that I remember about that car is what a long hood it had, longer even than the old Lincoln Continental. Those were the days.
King deserves a bonus for beginning each chapter with lyrics from a rock and roll song about cars. He mentions everyone from Elvis to the Beach Boys to the Clash, but misses out on Queen's classic "I'm In Love With My Car" with it's classic lines:
Told my girl I'll have to forget herRather buy me a new carburetorSo she made tracks saying this is the end, nowCars don't talk back they're just four wheeled friends now
Up next: another King novel, this one about man's best friend...
Lofficier: Why did you pick a 1958 Fury as your subject?
King: Because they're almost totally forgotten cars. They were the most mundane fifties car that I could remember. I didn't want a car that already had a legend attached to it like the fifties Thunderbird, the Ford Galaxies etc... You know how these things grow. Some of the Chevrolets, for example, were supposed to have been legendary door-suckers. On the other hand, nobody ever talked about the Plymouth products, and I thought, "Well..." Besides, Lee Iacocca gave me a million bucks!
Excellent book47. Flowers for Algernon
Daniel Keyes
1966, 311 pages
science fiction
This was originally a short story published in 1960; it was lengthened into a novel in 1966. The short story, which comprises the basic plot, (Charlie Gordon, a man with a very low IQ, is surgically operated upon and becomes a genius for a short period of time, only to lose all of his newfound intelligence as quickly as he gained it) is brilliant in itself, but it's the depth added to the novel that makes it a masterpiece. In the novel we learn about Charlie's terrible childhood, his life in the bakery, his sex life once he is a genius (these passages got the novel banned from several school libraries), etc.
The novel is written in the form of a diary, which makes it even more brilliant as the reader is able to witness first hand Charlie's rise and eventual fall. The story is quite magnificent, dark, and highly disturbing. My daughter read it recently (assigned her freshman year in high school) and she was shocked by Charlie's mistreatment, which would be unthinkable in today's society. She cried at how it ended. This reaction is pretty common, though I remember reading once that it surprised the author, who was trying to make the theme of the story that intelligence is overrated and Charlie is happier, and a better person, with his lower IQ.
The novel was made into a couple of movies; the first, Charley, appeared in 1968, and it's notable because Cliff Robertson won a much deserved Academy Award for best actor with a bravura performance; despite that, however, this film is really dated because of the late 60s montage "hip" techniques it employs. The second film was a TV movie with Matthew Modine which I have not seen.
Up next: The novel which inspired the classic film, A Place In the Sun...
Is it a farm with animals?Up next: a very short novel about a farm...
No. There are 45 novels that I enjoy reading more.There are 45 novels better than Flowers for Algernon and An American Tragedy?
That's fair, and I get your point. I've read both multiple times and it's very rare for me to do that.No. There are 45 novels that I enjoy reading more.
Is The Bad News Bears a better movie than Citizen Kane? No, not even close. But while I like both films, if they're both on at the same time I'm probably going to watch the Bears again.
Yeah there's a few "classic" novels coming up on this list (3 in a row here) but in no way is it a classic novels list. It's dominated by popular fiction which is my favorite kind.That's fair, and I get your point. I've read both multiple times and it's very rare for me to do that.
42. James Buchanan
The Good
Buchanan's greatest achievement as President was that portion of his Final Address to Congress in which he denied the right of secession by the separate states. In doing so he reaffirmed the integrity of the United States as a solitary nation and so honored his predecessors as President. Unfortunately that same speech included some disastrous information which I'll get to below. Buchanan, upon facing the rebellion, also dismissed his cabinet and replaced them with hardliners, including Edward Stanton, who survived into the Lincoln Administration and played a pivotal role in the Civil War. Buchanan also sent The Star of The West to reinforce Fort Sumter- some historians criticize him for this move, but I think it was the right choice, initially.
Buchanan should be credited with ending the Utah War through peaceful negotiation, and granting amnesty to the Mormons who fought against American troops during that skirmish. The history of Utah and the west might be greatly different had Buchanan chosen to take a less forgiving approach. Utah might have decided, during the Civil War, to declare its independence, which then would have been likely followed by a Yankee crushing after the Civil War ended, with a whole lot of bloodshed that would have had a lasting ugly legacy.
The Bad
Where to start? One of the most corrupt administrations in history, with all sorts of favors doled out to anyone who would pay. If Buchanan is credited with ending the Utah War, he must also be blamed for accepting the most outlandish reports that led him to firing Brigham Young as governor which led to the war in the first place. Buchanan's handling of the Panic of 1857 was wholly bad and a primer to future Presidents on how not to react to economic crisis.
But of course all of this pales compared to Buchanan's handling of the events which precipitated the American Civil War. In the same speech in which he correctly denied the right of secession, Buchanan placed the blame for the crisis solely on "northern agitation", and argued that the Dred Scott decision, of which he approved, protected slavery forever. He then, astonishingly, reaffirmed his support for Popular Sovereignty, which the Dred Scott decision had ruled as unconstitutional! After this weak display Buchanan took no action whatsoever, ignoring all recommendations by General Scott, until he was forced to do so by public pressure. This followed a pattern of inaction during the whole of his Presidency with regard to the crisis.
Analysis
Buchanan proclaimed upon being elected that his would be a Presidency that would "rank with George Washington". Well that turned out to be true, but only if we include the 40 or so Presidencies in-between. Buchanan, sympathetic to the South, truly believed that the Dred Scott decision would solve all of the sectional issues of the day. Faced with one crisis after another, he acted paralyzed- exactly what the Founding Fathers did NOT want when they created the Presidency. We are lucky as a nation that James Buchanan did not live during the nuclear age. He was our worst President.
45. Animal Farm
George Orwell
1945, 112 pages
political novel
In most examinations of the early history of the Soviet Union, there are essentially two opposing points of view:
The first point of view is that the well-meaning idea of socialism was sabotaged by Josef Stalin, an evil man, who created a monstrous dictatorship.
The second point of view is that socialism/Communism is itself evil, and that Josef Stalin was its inevitable result.
Personally I have always favored the second point of view. Animal Farm, however, is a powerful argument for the first point of view, written by a man who was a Communist, became disillusioned by the Spanish Civil War, but remained a leftist for the rest of his life.
This is not to say that Orwell did not recognize the problems of Communism even without Stalin. In the novel, prior to Napoleon taking power, the pigs are afforded better food than the other animals and Comrade Snowball has no problem with it. This can be interpreted possibly as a foreshadowing of Snowball not realizing his own doom to come (ala Trotsky) but more likely I think Orwell was criticizing the Soviet system in place prior to Stalin as already somewhat corrupt. Even so, Snowball is presented as an idealist who truly wants what is best for the other animals before he is disposed of, which gives credence to the larger argument Orwell is making, namely that Josef Stalin ruined everything.
I first read Animal Farm as an assigned work in high school and I don't remember now how much I knew about the Soviet Union and Stalin at the time. The novel is certainly enriched IMO if the reader knows the history behind it; however, a brilliant aspect of story is that can be read for sheer entertainment without knowing a thing about Russia. The characters themselves, even removed from all symbolism, are entertaining and frightening and the story of how a democracy becomes a dictatorship very quickly is all too instructive.
Up next: Many people consider this the greatest mystery novel ever written...
I can usually follow along with you, but..........wat?It's the definition of property and individual rights and the dialectic supporting those definitions which controls the destiny of any brand of socialism. As long as property is recognized as private and as long as any social rights are viewed as purely voluntarily granted and acquired and not inherent all is well.
I think you are right - and besides, did you notice his new angle of attack of Hillary?I think you meant to respond to the previous post about Animal Farm, right saints? Not to the post about my lousy taste in Stephen King novels.
Ha you're right but actually I was replying to Cstu not you. I have to thank Uruk for trying to warn me.I think you meant to respond to the previous post about Animal Farm, right saints? Not to the post about my lousy taste in Stephen King novels.
I think Dr Sleep is better-written, but it doesn't have that coke-fueled momentum that The Shining doesI thought Doctor Sleep was disappointing. The Shining, which will be reviewed in a little while, is one of King's best IMO.
I haven't read any of his books. The one you mentioned is on my list, but I haven't gotten to it.tim, have we discussed whether you've read much (or any) Murakami? I'm sure it's come up in a draft or two since he's my favorite fiction writer. When I saw you mention the Lamb novel as "not easy reading," it occurred to me that there might be some of his work you'd enjoy, though I think overall it's less concrete and more fantastic than what you like. Actually it's less concrete and more fantastic than most any other works that I like, too. I think you'd enjoy the suspense plus historical context of something like, for instance, The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, though it's a somewhat dense read.
I feel like we might have discussed before. Stupid (non-)search function.