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Top 3 American cities you'd buy land in today to retire to in 20+ years, factors/reasoning too... (2 Viewers)

Grew up in SF, and lived in Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties my adult life.  Can't see leaving here or CA in general as this is the perfect spot for me.  Amazing weather, shorts year a round, beach, camping, wine and beer scene, minimal traffic, but cost of living is brutal.

If I had to move, Bend OR, Las Vegas NM, and Spokane WA would be at the top of the list.  Flagstaff AZ and Boise ID would be considered too.
Mount Rainier could go at any time which would rain destruction down on Seattle , Oregon, and even as far south as San Francisco. Most of the places on your list.

 
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10 Best Places to Live

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1. Fishers, IN

Median home price: $236,167
Median household income: $87,043
Population: 86,357

Not surprisingly, a town in Indiana is the best place in America to live.
8 out of 10 of these they just picked a particular suburb outside of a major city. Indy, NYC, Denver, Memphis, Nashville, Dallas, LA, Chicago.

FWIW, I live about 10 minutes from Lone Tree, Co (#7) Nice area, definitely one of the more affluent areas of town. Hell of a long commute, though the train is a nice alternative.

 
Enjoyed reading almost all the replies.

Going to take a lot of the cities/states mentioned here and start some kind of spreadsheet where I'll try to rank how that area (or what I know of it) scores on a scale of 1-10 and see how those rankings add up across categories that matter to me.

Will see if anything worthwhile comes of it.  Could be a mess. Could be enlightening.  We'll see!

 
US News published a list of top places to retire.  Link. Made me think of this thread.

Interested to see Lancaster, PA as #2.  I considered putting that one down; spent some time there over Labor Day weekend and enjoyed it.

2018 U.S. News Best Places to Retire Rankings- Top 10

1. Sarasota, FL
2. Lancaster, PA
3. San Antonio, TX
4. Grand Rapids, MI
5. El Paso, TX
6. McAllen, TX
7. Daytona Beach, FL
8. Pittsburgh, PA
9. Austin, TX
10. Washington, DC

 
El Paso and McAllen? GTFO.

Also saw Dallas/Ft Worth as #11 and Houston as #12. Something in their methodology must have been heavily weighted towards land affordability and a lack of state/local income taxes. FWIW I spent four years in San Antonio, its already filled to the brim with retiree's. It's a nice place to visit.

 
So we can all agree that San Diego is the best place if money isn't a factor?

what do I win for living here?

 
El Paso and McAllen? GTFO.

Also saw Dallas/Ft Worth as #11 and Houston as #12. Something in their methodology must have been heavily weighted towards land affordability and a lack of state/local income taxes. FWIW I spent four years in San Antonio, its already filled to the brim with retiree's. It's a nice place to visit.
What do you got against El Paso?  You can walk to the best part of Mexico from there.

 
Id say Chapel Hill or one of the adjacent towns. Small town feel with all the typical ameneties a college town brings (reataraunts, public places, nightlife). Access to jobs via the research triangle. Temperate weather compared to the Northeast but still not as muggy as the South (or as vulnerable to severe weather). Still only two hours from the beach (or less if you want to live in a slightly more rural area closer to the coast). 

Demographic trends take years to fully evolve. Compared with some options options in this thread, perhaps Chapel Hill is already too developed. But I bet that some of the adjacent towns nearby will still be plenty ripe for the picking even further down the road.

 
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OP said a couple times not too interested in the South for several reasons, which probably most of the reasons apply to most of the South including the previously mentioned Carolina's, Tennessee and Texas.

 
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Ashland, OR - Great climate. More culture and better restaurants than you'd expect to find in a town of that size. Not sure where the nearest International airport is.

Flagstaff, AZ - College town, mountains and forests, but a short drive to the desert. Possibly too snowy for me in the winter. Nearest big airport is probably in Phoenix.

Central Texas Hill Country, due West, Southwest or Northwest of Austin (San Marcos, Marble Falls, Fredricksburg, Burnet) - This is a pretty big area and there are a number of towns that vary in attractions and attractiveness. Beautiful landscape, rivers and lakes, but it is pretty hot, particularly in summer months. Austin and San Antonio nearby though.

Southwest Florida had been on my personal list (yeah, it's Florida, but it has a lot going for it), but after these most recent hurricanes, I don't think I want to deal with that mess.

 
US News published a list of top places to retire.  Link. Made me think of this thread.

Interested to see Lancaster, PA as #2.  I considered putting that one down; spent some time there over Labor Day weekend and enjoyed it.
What a terrible list that is. El Paso?  Life ain't always about cheap dirt

 
Wife and I had a similar conversation 6-7 years ago.  We ended up moving to Palm Beach County.  Figured we would live here for the next 20 years of our working lives and start to worry about a part time summer home back up north ocnce my kids college is paid for.

absolutlely no regrets.

 
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Ashland, OR - Great climate. More culture and better restaurants than you'd expect to find in a town of that size. Not sure where the nearest International airport is.

Flagstaff, AZ - College town, mountains and forests, but a short drive to the desert. Possibly too snowy for me in the winter. Nearest big airport is probably in Phoenix.

Central Texas Hill Country, due West, Southwest or Northwest of Austin (San Marcos, Marble Falls, Fredricksburg, Burnet) - This is a pretty big area and there are a number of towns that vary in attractions and attractiveness. Beautiful landscape, rivers and lakes, but it is pretty hot, particularly in summer months. Austin and San Antonio nearby though.

Southwest Florida had been on my personal list (yeah, it's Florida, but it has a lot going for it), but after these most recent hurricanes, I don't think I want to deal with that mess.
My oldest is looking at Southern Oregon U in Ashland.  He's a theater kid and Ashland is huge for Billy Shakeapear.  Nudging him that way for financial reasons but also because you're right, Ashland is very cool.

 
My oldest is looking at Southern Oregon U in Ashland.  He's a theater kid and Ashland is huge for Billy Shakeapear.  Nudging him that way for financial reasons but also because you're right, Ashland is very cool.
We are nudging several of our kids towards Eastern Washington University in Cheney, WA for similar reasons.

Actually, not for similar reasons. Cheney is terrible. We are nudging them that way because they are stupid have terrible grades and EWU beats not going to college.

 
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RedmondLonghorn said:
Ashland, OR - Great climate. More culture and better restaurants than you'd expect to find in a town of that size. Not sure where the nearest International airport is.

Flagstaff, AZ - College town, mountains and forests, but a short drive to the desert. Possibly too snowy for me in the winter. Nearest big airport is probably in Phoenix.

Central Texas Hill Country, due West, Southwest or Northwest of Austin (San Marcos, Marble Falls, Fredricksburg, Burnet) - This is a pretty big area and there are a number of towns that vary in attractions and attractiveness. Beautiful landscape, rivers and lakes, but it is pretty hot, particularly in summer months. Austin and San Antonio nearby though.

Southwest Florida had been on my personal list (yeah, it's Florida, but it has a lot going for it), but after these most recent hurricanes, I don't think I want to deal with that mess.
Ashland is awesome, great food and beer, tons of outdoor activities, and pretty good weather most of the year. Being the first town across the border the prices are more CA than OR.  Airport could be the biggest issue, as Medford is tiny with something like 20 total flights a day, Eugene is a few hours away, and the closest international airports of Sacramento and Portland are 4-5 hours away.  But totally one of my favorite small towns. 

I've only been to Flagstaff once but really liked what I saw. 

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
We are nudging several of our kids towards Eastern Washington University in Cheney, WA for similar reasons.

Actually, not for similar reasons. Cheney is terrible. We are nudging them that way because they are stupid have terrible grades and EWU beats not going to college.
:lmao:

Kind of hoping a school like Southern Oregon might even offer some $$$ to my oldest, who is slaying his grades.  Long way for him to go, but the seeds are definitely planted.

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
Central Texas Hill Country, due West, Southwest or Northwest of Austin (San Marcos, Marble Falls, Fredricksburg, Burnet) - This is a pretty big area and there are a number of towns that vary in attractions and attractiveness. Beautiful landscape, rivers and lakes, but it is pretty hot, particularly in summer months. Austin and San Antonio nearby though.
Texas Hill County is awesome, I definitely agree there. A booming hot spot of activity for tourists too, wineries, boutique shopping, restaurants, B&B's, etc. sprouting up everywhere.

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
Ashland, OR - Great climate. More culture and better restaurants than you'd expect to find in a town of that size. Not sure where the nearest International airport is.

Flagstaff, AZ - College town, mountains and forests, but a short drive to the desert. Possibly too snowy for me in the winter. Nearest big airport is probably in Phoenix.

Central Texas Hill Country, due West, Southwest or Northwest of Austin (San Marcos, Marble Falls, Fredricksburg, Burnet) - This is a pretty big area and there are a number of towns that vary in attractions and attractiveness. Beautiful landscape, rivers and lakes, but it is pretty hot, particularly in summer months. Austin and San Antonio nearby though.

Southwest Florida had been on my personal list (yeah, it's Florida, but it has a lot going for it), but after these most recent hurricanes, I don't think I want to deal with that mess.
I dig me some Flagstaff, but Prescott isn't quite as cold, has a better vibe, and is a little closer to Phoenix. I'll take Prescott over Flagstaff any day.

 
I dig me some Flagstaff, but Prescott isn't quite as cold, has a better vibe, and is a little closer to Phoenix. I'll take Prescott over Flagstaff any day.
I've heard great things about it and almost included it, but I have never actually been there.

 

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