Top 5 players for 2009 Fantasy Drafts (1 Viewer)

[wonderdork]

So based on what you know today, who would be your top five players in a typical performance scoring redraft? Typical performance scoring with .5pt per reception (including RBs).

And lets focus on the top five as a group, not the individual rankings of who should be #1, #2....

My top five in random order:

Westbrook

Forte

Peterson

Andre Johnson

Turner

What are your thoughts?

 

[Sgt_Russia]

I wouldn't put Johnson in the top 5, simply because he doesn't usually score a lot of td's. The other 4 I could see being top-5. I'd likely add MJD or perhaps DWill, depending what happens in the offseason.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Any league that awards receptions shouldn't have Turner in the top five imo. Touchdowns are kind of random (could drop a lot next year as Ryan improves) and he was spotty against good defenses. Not the kind of RB I'd want in a PPR as my #1.

 

[biggamer3]

Dont forget Marion Barber is still the man in dallas next year

 

[JPeso]

Redraft PPR

Brees, Cutler, Rodgers, Romo, Warner

Peterson, Jones-Drew, Barber, Forte, Westbrook

R. Moss, Fitzgerald, A. Johnson, Boldin, Marshall

Gonzalez, Witten, Cooley, Gates, Clark

 

[The_Fonz]

Steve Slaton and Deangelo Williams should be in the top 5. I play against them both this week and I am not happy about it.

 

[wonderdork]

Steve Slaton and Deangelo Williams should be in the top 5. I play against them both this week and I am not happy about it.

I can't deny what they've done, just scary to think of them to be top 5 picks. Especially DWilliams. Before this year he has done very little and they have J Stew who could take on a larger role.

 

[bumpman]

Any league that awards receptions shouldn't have Turner in the top five imo. Touchdowns are kind of random (could drop a lot next year as Ryan improves) and he was spotty against good defenses. Not the kind of RB I'd want in a PPR as my #1.

Keep an eye on Turner's receptions. They look like they are throwing to him more. The more Ryan improves, the better Turner's overall numbers are going to be IMO. If you look at Turner's second half numbers (which coincides with Ryan's improving numbers), they are remarkably consistent (with some spikes to the high side). They are nothing like his first half numbers where he was on-and-off. Keep in mind, Turner's second half included games against Carolina and Tampa Bay, both of whom he absolutely destroyed.

 

[MAC_32]

I think this thread is about 7 months too early.

 

[Garts]

If Calvin had a QB...top 5 easy.

Heck, he might be top 5 anyways.

 

[mikel0254]

Steve Slaton and Deangelo Williams should be in the top 5. I play against them both this week and I am not happy about it.

I can't deny what they've done, just scary to think of them to be top 5 picks. Especially DWilliams. Before this year he has done very little and they have J Stew who could take on a larger role.

Agreed. I think Gore deserves top 5... Catches a ton of balls (other than the last few weeks) and gets ALL the carries when healthy...My top 5 in order:ADPWestyBarberGoreForteTurner just outside due to PPR (6). CJ3 just behind Turner (7). This thread is REAL early though due to all the moves in the offseason, but who cares...it's still fun

 

[ceo3west]

So based on what you know today, who would be your top five players in a typical performance scoring redraft? Typical performance scoring with .5pt per reception (including RBs).And lets focus on the top five as a group, not the individual rankings of who should be #1, #2....My top five in random order:WestbrookFortePetersonAndre Johnson TurnerWhat are your thoughts?

I don't know if I'd feel safe with a 30 year old Westbrook next year, he's caused me a lot of trouble this year as it is. I have moved on DESPITE him this year. Forte is solid, but give me Chris Johnson over both these guys next year (and Andre Johnson). I think he'll only get better. Again, not saying he's better than Westy, but definitelty safer IMO.

 

[Native]

Oh how the mighty have fallen....

1) Pierre Thomas

2) Steve Slaton

3) Deangelo Williams

4) Thomas Jones

5) Michael Turner

 

[Hue G]

Redraft PPRBrees, Cutler, Rodgers, Romo, Warner Peterson, Jones-Drew, Barber, Forte, WestbrookR. Moss, Fitzgerald, A. Johnson, Boldin, MarshallGonzalez, Witten, Cooley, Gates, Clark

No Brady?That's a bit high for Cutler, he hasn't been that great in the 2nd half of the season so far.

 

[Hue G]

Oh how the mighty have fallen....1) Pierre Thomas2) Steve Slaton3) Deangelo Williams4) Thomas Jones5) Michael Turner

you want to join my league?

 

[wonderdork]

I think this thread is about 7 months too early.

Just a fun way to pass the time.

 

[MAC_32]

I think this thread is about 7 months too early.

Just a fun way to pass the time.

I hear ya, just my way of saying your top 5 will almost certainly be different in July than it is right now. Possibly significantly different.

 

[wonderdork]

I think this thread is about 7 months too early.

Just a fun way to pass the time.

I hear ya, just my way of saying your top 5 will almost certainly be different in July than it is right now. Possibly significantly different.

Barring training camp injuries I can't see too much changing with the elite talents we are talking about. Its not like they are going to lose their starter spot... I hope.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I think this thread is about 7 months too early.

Youre right, threads like this take up space and dont allow enough WDIS or people bragging/complaing about their team threads.1. AD2. MJD3. Forte4. Westbrook5. AJ

 

[MaddHatter]

I'm thinking it is time to stray from the conservative thought and dump the whole "grab stud RBs early" theory. That I am sold on.

In a basic PPR scoring system (6 pts - ALL TDs, 1 pt per 20 passing, 1 pt per rushing/receiving yards, -2 per fumble/interception) with no bonuses for extra yardage, etc., here is how the top ten looked in my dynasty:

1. Brees

2. Warner

3. Rodgers

4. Rivers

5. Cutler

6. P. Manning

7. McNabb

8. Cassel

9. Romo

10. Favre

Only 7 RBs in the top 25.

We also start 1 QB, 1RB/4 WR or 2/3, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF

Just a standard-type league.

I loaded up on WRs and cruised while my running backs were middle of the pack or waiver picks (Thomas Jones, Pierre Thomas, Kevin Smith, Tim Hightower).

Of course, every league is different but I for one declared myself done with the traditional RB/RB theory last year, now I may be done with the whole "1st round RB" theory altogether.

Just some thoughts from a dunce.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Dont forget Marion Barber is still the man in dallas next year

I don't see anyone taking Barber in the top 5. Coming into this year people questioned whether he would last the year carrying a full load with his style and whadaya know, he didn't. Add that Dallas now has two other backs that can produce, and Barber has too much baggage to be top 5.

 

[got_nugs]

I'm thinking it is time to stray from the conservative thought and dump the whole "grab stud RBs early" theory. That I am sold on.

In a basic PPR scoring system (6 pts - ALL TDs, 1 pt per 20 passing, 1 pt per rushing/receiving yards, -2 per fumble/interception) with no bonuses for extra yardage, etc., here is how the top ten looked in my dynasty:

1. Brees

2. Warner

3. Rodgers

4. Rivers

5. Cutler

6. P. Manning

7. McNabb

8. Cassel

9. Romo

10. Favre

Only 7 RBs in the top 25.

We also start 1 QB, 1RB/4 WR or 2/3, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF

Just a standard-type league.

I loaded up on WRs and cruised while my running backs were middle of the pack or waiver picks (Thomas Jones, Pierre Thomas, Kevin Smith, Tim Hightower).

Of course, every league is different but I for one declared myself done with the traditional RB/RB theory last year, now I may be done with the whole "1st round RB" theory altogether.

Just some thoughts from a dunce.

As Mrs. Sheila Broflovski would say: "What what what?"

 

[timschochet]

I'm afraid of Forte and Slaton. Owned them this year, and they've done great for me (I'm in the finals.) But 2nd year running backs that had great rookie years usually fade. Look at Ryan Grant.

I think Darren McFadden may yet emerge as a top 5 back next year. Certainly there's no need to draft him anywhere close to that, but I think those that steal him later on are going to be happy about it. I feel the same way about MJD; I think he rebounds in a big way.

And if I can get LaDamien late in the first, I'm grabbing him.

 

[bjabrad]

The hardest to predict is WR so here are my top 5+ WR for 2009. QB's and RB's will be available throughout the draft but in my leagues, these top notch WR's only last for a couple of rounds and rarely does any WR come out of nowhere to challenge the elite WR scorers unlike RB's where you are one injury away from a new stud RB flavor of the week (BTW, I would like to thank Peyton Hillis, Pierre Thomas and Dominick Rhodes for their superb contributions to my team this year).

Andre Johnson (great skill proven over time, very good young QB and offensive coordinator isn't changing)

Roddy White (good young QB and offensive balance w/quality RB should continue)

Greg Jennings (good young QB)

Brandon Marshall (good young QB)

Randy Moss (should be back to top form with Brady back and a year of Cassell seasoning)

Boldin and Fitz (great skill but how long before Warner gets hurt?)

Calvin Johnson is great but he could benefit from a better QB and balance in WR2 and RB1 to keep from being double teamed as much.

Steve Smith is not young anymore but he's still performing at a very high level.

Please don't make the same mistakes that I made and that led me to keeping Braylon Edwards instead of Brandon Marshall.

 

[Muahahaha]

I went WR-WR-WR and am fielding a Super Bowl team of Warner-TJones-Slayton-Moss-AJohnson-SSMith. I too think RB-RB is somewhat broken.

 

[big_donkey]

Dont forget Marion Barber is still the man in dallas next year

I own Barber, love Barber and can't stand all the switz Barber bashing, but I think he will be prolly around RB10 on my board next season.

 

[DrJamesAndrews Fan]

I wouldn't put Johnson in the top 5, simply because he doesn't usually score a lot of td's. The other 4 I could see being top-5. I'd likely add MJD or perhaps DWill, depending what happens in the offseason.

AJ is currently #2 in scoring behind only Brees in my PPR League, #3 is Forte 10 points behind AJ. Westbrook is 35 points behind AJ. I think he definately warrants a top 5 in PPR's.

 

[puckalicious]

I'm thinking it is time to stray from the conservative thought and dump the whole "grab stud RBs early" theory. That I am sold on.

In a basic PPR scoring system (6 pts - ALL TDs, 1 pt per 20 passing, 1 pt per rushing/receiving yards, -2 per fumble/interception) with no bonuses for extra yardage, etc., here is how the top ten looked in my dynasty:

1. Brees

2. Warner

3. Rodgers

4. Rivers

5. Cutler

6. P. Manning

7. McNabb

8. Cassel

9. Romo

10. Favre

Only 7 RBs in the top 25.

We also start 1 QB, 1RB/4 WR or 2/3, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF

Just a standard-type league.

I loaded up on WRs and cruised while my running backs were middle of the pack or waiver picks (Thomas Jones, Pierre Thomas, Kevin Smith, Tim Hightower).

Of course, every league is different but I for one declared myself done with the traditional RB/RB theory last year, now I may be done with the whole "1st round RB" theory altogether.

Just some thoughts from a dunce.

As Mrs. Sheila Broflovski would say: "What what what?"

Look at his scoring, very biased to QB's. Nothing "standard" about it, not standard FBG scoring anyway. In that scoring format it would be silly to draft RB-RB no matter what since you only need to start 1 RB! Nothing "standard" about the starting roster either.

 

[Native]

Oh how the mighty have fallen....1) Pierre Thomas2) Steve Slaton3) Deangelo Williams4) Thomas Jones5) Michael Turner

you want to join my league?

Sure.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

1 - ADP

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2 - Westy

3 - Turner

4 - MB3

5 - Jacobs

 

[Sgt_Russia]

I wouldn't put Johnson in the top 5, simply because he doesn't usually score a lot of td's. The other 4 I could see being top-5. I'd likely add MJD or perhaps DWill, depending what happens in the offseason.

AJ is currently #2 in scoring behind only Brees in my PPR League, #3 is Forte 10 points behind AJ. Westbrook is 35 points behind AJ. I think he definately warrants a top 5 in PPR's.

A valid point and if you think he will perform at the same/similar level next year, I won't crucify you for drafting him there. There is just more risk in taking a WR that high than taking a #1RB due to the direct dependency on the QB. While a Qb injury will affect a RB, it won't affect it nearly as much as it will a WR, which is another reason I'd hesitate on a WR in the top 5.

 

[GiantsRule]

Unless it's a running joke, I'm not understanding the Matt Forte love at all. Top 10? Definitely. But Top 5 and in some cases top 3? Seems like an incredible reach even in a PPR league.

 

[Knight who says Ni]

Any league that awards receptions shouldn't have Turner in the top five imo. Touchdowns are kind of random (could drop a lot next year as Ryan improves) and he was spotty against good defenses. Not the kind of RB I'd want in a PPR as my #1.

Keep an eye on Turner's receptions. They look like they are throwing to him more. The more Ryan improves, the better Turner's overall numbers are going to be IMO. If you look at Turner's second half numbers (which coincides with Ryan's improving numbers), they are remarkably consistent (with some spikes to the high side). They are nothing like his first half numbers where he was on-and-off. Keep in mind, Turner's second half included games against Carolina and Tampa Bay, both of whom he absolutely destroyed.

Turner's second half has indeed been a lot more consistent - I traded away Turner late in the season, primarily because of his weeks 15 & 16 playoff matchups (Tampa Bay, Minnesota) and it killed me.

 

[Desert_Power]

Even with Stewart spelling him Deangelo is third in PPG with a slim margin separating him from the top. H should be in this discussion.

 

[Utter Chaos]

Am I the only person that would pick L.T. in the top 5 next year?

It's obvious he's struggled this season because of his toe. If he's 100% next year I would only put ADP ahead of him at the RB position.

 

[DrJamesAndrews Fan]

Unless it's a running joke, I'm not understanding the Matt Forte love at all. Top 10? Definitely. But Top 5 and in some cases top 3? Seems like an incredible reach even in a PPR league.

He's currently the #1 RB in my League (wish I had drafted him).

 

[Burning Sensation]

Am I the only person that would pick L.T. in the top 5 next year?

It's obvious he's struggled this season because of his toe. If he's 100% next year I would only put ADP ahead of him at the RB position.

Probably, the guy is done as a top 10 FF RB.

 

[wonderdork]

Am I the only person that would pick L.T. in the top 5 next year? It's obvious he's struggled this season because of his toe. If he's 100% next year I would only put ADP ahead of him at the RB position.

Well I didn't have LT in my top 5 last year and he won't be in it in 2009.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Adrian Peterson

Matt Forte

Maurice Jones-Drew

Steve Slaton

Michael Turner

5 workhorse RB's in the prime of their careers.

 

[travdogg]

Adrian Peterson

Maurice Jones-Drew

Chris Johnson

Steven Jackson

Frank Gore

 

[Burning Sensation]

Adrian PetersonMatt Forte Maurice Jones-DrewSteve SlatonMichael Turner5 workhorse RB's in the prime of their careers.

I love Slaton, but top 5 is too high. I have little doubt the Texans will bring in another back next year, and that RB could be good enough to get a large chunk of the touches and would greatly decrease Slatons FF value. My biggest fear is the RB they bring in will get a majority of the goaline carries. With that said, i think Slaton is good enough to handle 300 touches a year, and its quite possible the newly acquired RB will only be a 6-10 touches a game type.

 

[Phurfur]

I think this thread is about 7 months too early.

I disagree; this is the time to start thinking about next year. I always download my NFL stats after week 16 and do my rankings during the playoffs. After the SB I have all my ranking complete and then make adjustment until draft time next season. I found that in waiting 7 months I would tend to forget about the players who finished strong or weak the year before. Doing my initial rankings now while the season is fresh in my mind works out great for me, I suggest you try it.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Adrian Peterson

Matt Forte

Maurice Jones-Drew Brian Westbrook

Steve Slaton Clinton Portis

Michael Turner

5 workhorse RB's in the prime of their careers.

Random order.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I think this thread is about 7 months too early.

I disagree; this is the time to start thinking about next year. I always download my NFL stats after week 16 and do my rankings during the playoffs. After the SB I have all my ranking complete and then make adjustment until draft time next season. I found that in waiting 7 months I would tend to forget about the players who finished strong or weak the year before. Doing my initial rankings now while the season is fresh in my mind has works out great for me, I suggest you try it.

 

[FUBAR]

Top 5, not random, not sequential

AD

BW

CJ3

Forte

Turner

 

[GDogg]

I'm afraid of Forte and Slaton. Owned them this year, and they've done great for me (I'm in the finals.) But 2nd year running backs that had great rookie years usually fade. Look at Ryan Grant.

I think Darren McFadden may yet emerge as a top 5 back next year. Certainly there's no need to draft him anywhere close to that, but I think those that steal him later on are going to be happy about it. I feel the same way about MJD; I think he rebounds in a big way.

And if I can get LaDamien late in the first, I'm grabbing him.

Rebounds? In my two leagues, he's RB8 (standard scoring) and RB6 (PPR + return yardage).