Top 5 WRs going into 2006 (1 Viewer)

[Phlash]

My picks:1) Larry Fitzgerald - Kurt Warner and Josh McCown are putting up massive statistics throwing to him and Boldin. Boldin is great but Fitzgerald gets the red-zone looks.2) Steve Smith - the number one player on his offense, Jake keys in him early and often because he is a studddd.3) Marvin Harrison - still at the top of his game, as long as he has Peyton I expect fantasy production out of him. Reggie isn't supplanting him where the money is made, in red-zone.4) Santana Moss - proved this season how much of a gamebreaking threat he can be. This is also his first year in the system. I rank him at 4 but his upside is 1, depending on how many long TDs he can score each season.5) Chad Johnson - at #5 he may seem low but he's still going to be a stud. I expect more TD production out of him next season, its blatantly obvious that he's capable.

 

[Garts]

There is no way Holt won't be top 5.

 

[fsufan]

Holt is a top 5 WR. he ended up #5 this year and he missed 2 games and had 3 QBsS. Moss is a 1 year wonder

 

[iSnitch]

I like Boldin just as much as Fitz, if not more. I'm a big Santana fan but he is a bit too inconsistent to rank top five.

 

[iSnitch]

S. Moss is a 1 year wonder

Link?

 

[fsufan]

S. Moss is a 1 year wonder

Link?

 

[fsufan]

plus WRs are crap shots year in year out

 

[Wingnut]

S. Moss is a 1 year wonder

Link?

 

[Phlash]

Holt is a top 5 WR. he ended up #5 this year and he missed 2 games and had 3 QBs

S. Moss is a 1 year wonder

It would be easy for Holt to not be a top 5 WR, he just needs to score less points than 5 other guys Seriously though Santana Moss is capable of getting 2,000 yards in a season. Tell me, who's going to steal his production? The second leading WR, David Givens, had little over 200 yards. He had Portis and Cooley taking coverage off of him, which forces teams to stack the box, allowing him to get open deep. It they don't respect those two, they get run on and screened on. Moss is in a perfect situation for scoring points.

 

[Biabreakable]

Santana Moss: +--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2001 nyj | 5 | 1 -6 -6.0 0 | 2 40 20.0 0 || 2002 nyj | 15 | 6 40 6.7 0 | 30 433 14.4 4 || 2003 nyj | 16 | 10 67 6.7 0 | 74 1105 14.9 10 || 2004 nyj | 15 | 6 18 3.0 0 | 45 838 18.6 5 || 2005 was | 15 | 3 -3 -1.0 0 | 80 1400 17.5 9 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 66 | 26 116 4.5 0 | 231 3816 16.5 28 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+Looks like he has had 2 good years out of 4 to me. Under less than ideal conditions as well.I am not sure if I would rank him top 5 but he at least deserves consideration. Top 12 is a lock for him at least I think. He is a starting caliber number one Wr.

 

[Wingnut]

I see it:Chad Johnson - Its only a matter of time before hes the top WR. Carson will only get better as will Chad. They will work like crazy in the offseason ala Peyton/Marvin. 1400yds and 14tds next year. Steve Smith - Simply unstoppable. Holt - Mr ConsistancyFitzgerald - See original post in thread.Chris Chambers - The guy ended with 1100yds and 11tds. Miami should improve in Sabans 2nd year. Chambers will benefit and continue to produce. McMichael and the all world running game gives CC plenty of room to operate.Then you have guys like Wayne, Plax, Ward, marvin, T.O., S Moss, etc who could easily finish top 5.

 

[Phlash]

Next year will be a good year to draft WRs. I could even see some starting to hit their strides, such as Roy Williams, Deion Branch, Antonio Bryant and possibly even Braylon Edwards

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I find it curious that Boldin put up near identical stats in two less games, yet you rank Fitzgerald #1.

 

[Phlash]

As well you have guys like Javon Walker and Donald Driver who could do just about anything.

 

[Boulder Toads]

1. Torry Holt 2. Larry Fitzgerald 3. Steve Smith4. Darrell Jackson 5. Terrell Owens 6. Chad Johnson7. Marvin Harrison8. Anquan Boldin (I'm going after the ARI QB next year again...)9. Chris Chambers10. Randy Moss11. Santana Moss12. Hines WardTOADS

 

[xWeaselx]

When TO is on the field he's the #1 WR. R Moss could make a comeback depending on who the QB and coach will be in Oakland.

 

[Phlash]

I find it curious that Boldin put up near identical stats in two less games, yet you rank Fitzgerald #1.

I know that both are up and comers, but next year will be Fitzgerald's third season and from seeing what he can do I fully believe he'll distance himself from Boldin next year in the TD column, and thats what wins fantasy football. Boldin is good for TDs as well but Fitzgerald has the height and body control to catch just about anything. If Green stays, Fitzgerald will put up 12 - 15 TDs, whereas I see Boldin getting 6 - 9

 

[Biabreakable]

This was a bad year for Randy Moss: 60 catches 1005 yards 8TD

 

[iSnitch]

This was a bad year for Randy Moss: 60 catches 1005 yards 8TD

And it also was the beginning of a trend.

 

[newlycreated]

Holt is a top 5 WR. he ended up #5 this year and he missed 2 games and had 3 QBs

S. Moss is a 1 year wonder

It would be easy for Holt to not be a top 5 WR, he just needs to score less points than 5 other guys Seriously though Santana Moss is capable of getting 2,000 yards in a season. Tell me, who's going to steal his production? The second leading WR, David Givens, had little over 200 yards. He had Portis and Cooley taking coverage off of him, which forces teams to stack the box, allowing him to get open deep. It they don't respect those two, they get run on and screened on. Moss is in a perfect situation for scoring points.

David Givens? or David Patten...

 

[dickey moe]

I'd rate the top 5 as:1. Chad Johnson2. Torry Holt3. Larry Fitzgerald4. Steve Smith5. Marvin HarrisonLot of people have Boldin ranked up here, but he's got to show me one injury-free season before I'll draft him this high.

 

[iSnitch]

I'd rate the top 5 as:

1. Chad Johnson

2. Torry Holt

3. Larry Fitzgerald

4. Steve Smith

5. Marvin Harrison

Lot of people have Boldin ranked up here, but he's got to show me one injury-free season before I'll draft him this high.

Each year I keep wondering how much longer Harrison will stay in the top five and each year he squeaks in. I'll repeat myself yet again and say next year he's not top five. One of these times I'll be right...

 

[iSnitch]

How can anybody not rank Steve Smith as the #1 wr? I think TO is the only other guy who is a reasonable alternative and with his ?'s I'd let him slide.

 

[Wingnut]

How can anybody not rank Steve Smith as the #1 wr? I think TO is the only other guy who is a reasonable alternative and with his ?'s I'd let him slide.

I have him as WR2, only because I think teams will double him ALL THE TIME next year, and Carolinas WR2 (whoever it may be) will see more action as a result. Also, if their running game improves I think theyll try to get back to it more.But he could easily finish #1.

 

[dotman]

Smith HoltOwensFitz Johnson

 

[iSnitch]

How can anybody not rank Steve Smith as the #1 wr?  I think TO is the only other guy who is a reasonable alternative and with his ?'s I'd let him slide.

I have him as WR2, only because I think teams will double him ALL THE TIME next year, and Carolinas WR2 (whoever it may be) will see more action as a result. Also, if their running game improves I think theyll try to get back to it more.But he could easily finish #1.

So...teams weren't doubling him THIS year? C'mon, your other arguments are valid points but this one? Don't think so, teams were hanging multiple players on Steve's jock all season long and he burned 'em all.Delhomme locks onto whoever the #1 wr is. Has for the past several years. So unless you think Smith will become the #2 receiver for the Panthers, he's still going to get lots of man love from Jake.

Fair point about their running game. Davis is done and IMO Foster isn't anything special but they could always find someone pretty good.

 

[Biabreakable]

This was a bad year for Randy Moss: 60 catches 1005 yards 8TD

And it also was the beginning of a trend.

Steve Smith:+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Rushing | Receiving |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| 2001 car | 15 | 4 43 10.8 0 | 10 154 15.4 0 |

| 2002 car | 15 | 1 -4 -4.0 0 | 54 872 16.1 3 |

| 2003 car | 16 | 11 42 3.8 0 | 88 1110 12.6 7 |

| 2004 car | 1 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 6 60 10.0 0 |

| 2005 car | 15 | 3 18 6.0 1 | 94 1432 15.2 11 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 62 | 19 99 5.2 1 | 252 3628 14.4 21 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Chad Johnson:

+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Rushing | Receiving |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| 2001 cin | 12 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 28 329 11.8 1 |

| 2002 cin | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 69 1166 16.9 5 |

| 2003 cin | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 90 1355 15.1 10 |

| 2004 cin | 16 | 4 39 9.8 0 | 95 1274 13.4 9 |

| 2005 cin | 15 | 4 27 6.8 0 | 93 1377 14.8 9 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 75 | 8 66 8.2 0 | 375 5501 14.7 34 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Larry Fitzgerald:

+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Rushing | Receiving |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| 2004 ari | 16 | 8 14 1.8 0 | 58 780 13.4 8 |

| 2005 ari | 15 | 8 41 5.1 0 | 97 1329 13.7 9 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 31 | 16 55 3.4 0 | 155 2109 13.6 17 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

I actualy don't see Randy Moss's performance this year as the begining of a trend. But if you are right about that his numbers are not that far off from these other Wrs being considered top 5.

 

[Phlash]

Holt is a top 5 WR. he ended up #5 this year and he missed 2 games and had 3 QBs

S. Moss is a 1 year wonder

It would be easy for Holt to not be a top 5 WR, he just needs to score less points than 5 other guys Seriously though Santana Moss is capable of getting 2,000 yards in a season. Tell me, who's going to steal his production? The second leading WR, David Givens, had little over 200 yards. He had Portis and Cooley taking coverage off of him, which forces teams to stack the box, allowing him to get open deep. It they don't respect those two, they get run on and screened on. Moss is in a perfect situation for scoring points.

David Givens? or David Patten...

Which one do you think?

 

[Wingnut]

How can anybody not rank Steve Smith as the #1 wr? I think TO is the only other guy who is a reasonable alternative and with his ?'s I'd let him slide.

I have him as WR2, only because I think teams will double him ALL THE TIME next year, and Carolinas WR2 (whoever it may be) will see more action as a result. Also, if their running game improves I think theyll try to get back to it more.But he could easily finish #1.

So...teams weren't doubling him THIS year? C'mon, your other arguments are valid points but this one? Don't think so, teams were hanging multiple players on Steve's jock all season long and he burned 'em all.Delhomme locks onto whoever the #1 wr is. Has for the past several years. So unless you think Smith will become the #2 receiver for the Panthers, he's still going to get lots of man love from Jake.

Fair point about their running game. Davis is done and IMO Foster isn't anything special but they could always find someone pretty good.

I dont think Smoot had any help.

 

[Fantasy Man]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5. He's a lock, no matter where he ends up. The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

 

[Wingnut]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5. He's a lock, no matter where he ends up. The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

Depends on where he lands. A team without a good QB keeps him down. A team with a good QB shoots him up.

 

[Boulder Toads]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5. He's a lock, no matter where he ends up. The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

I had him there, just below the more stable Jackson. Anyone else feel the same about D-Jax for 2006?1. Torry Holt

2. Larry Fitzgerald

3. Steve Smith

4. Darrell Jackson

5. Terrell Owens

TOADS

 

[iSnitch]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5. He's a lock, no matter where he ends up. The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

As I pointed out, I feel TO and Steve Smith are the only two worthy of the number one spot. Of course, when you factor in TO's implosion factor, I bump him down. That's merely a personal thing, you might not care about that kinda stuff. I'd take Smith, Holt, CJ before TO without question. I might take Fitzgerald, Moss, Moss or Boldin before him as well.

 

[packersfan]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5. He's a lock, no matter where he ends up. The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

I had him there, just below the more stable Jackson. Anyone else feel the same about D-Jax for 2006?1. Torry Holt

2. Larry Fitzgerald

3. Steve Smith

4. Darrell Jackson

5. Terrell Owens

TOADS

I think DJax could very easily be a monster next season and it would not be a surprise to see him crack the Top 5 (although I won't rank him that high). Consider that before his injury he was on pace for a 116-1,504-8 season. Think his injury didn't kill a few fantasy seasons? :( As for my Top 5, I would rank them:

1. Chad Johnson

2. Steve Smith

3. Torry Holt

4. Marvin Harrison

5. Anquan Boldin

TO could move into the Top 5 depending on where he ends up. I would probably rank him 6th and then go with the following as my next 5:

6. Terrell Owens

7. Larry Fitzgerald

8. Darrell Jackson

9. Hines Ward

10. Santana Moss

Javon Walker could be a Top 10 WR if he returns to health and if Favre returns. Chris Chambers is another WR who could generate Top 10 production. As far as Randy Moss goes, he's obviously a Top 5 talent but back-to-back injury-plagued seasons will likely keep me from ranking him in the Top 10. He'll be one of the most interesting picks of next season to see where he goes in my opinion.

 

[Fantasy Man]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5.  He's a lock, no matter where he ends up.  The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

As I pointed out, I feel TO and Steve Smith are the only two worthy of the number one spot. Of course, when you factor in TO's implosion factor, I bump him down. That's merely a personal thing, you might not care about that kinda stuff. I'd take Smith, Holt, CJ before TO without question. I might take Fitzgerald, Moss, Moss or Boldin before him as well.

I'm an Eagles fan. I fully understand the implosion factor, but it's non-existant in year 1. As I said before, it's going to be a honeymoon period for the first year, and he's going to explode. I just don't see that many starting QBs in the NFL that can hold TO down, and when you weed out the teams that he obviously won't sign with, there are probably no situations in which he'll have a terrible QB. I would be inclined to put him at 1, but I think Chad Johnson busts out next year.1. CJ

2. TO

3. SS

4. TH

5. RM

 

[Boulder Toads]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5.  He's a lock, no matter where he ends up.  The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

I had him there, just below the more stable Jackson. Anyone else feel the same about D-Jax for 2006?1. Torry Holt

2. Larry Fitzgerald

3. Steve Smith

4. Darrell Jackson

5. Terrell Owens

TOADS

I think DJax could very easily be a monster next season and it would not be a surprise to see him crack the Top 5 (although I won't rank him that high). Consider that before his injury he was on pace for a 116-1,504-8 season. Think his injury didn't kill a few fantasy seasons? :(

Mine was one of them (along with Javon & others). I know, I know - But seriously - I think the added emphasis that teams are going to have to place on stopping that Seattle rushing game will continue to open up GREAT opportunities for D-Jax next year. He's still going to have a solid WR#2 & #3 opposite of him as well to keep pressure away ... he'll be underrated on draft boards next year for sure - top 5 value for a 10-15 WR (or later?) selection??

TOADS

 

[Spartans Rule]

When TO is on the field he's the #1 WR. R Moss could make a comeback depending on who the QB and coach will be in Oakland.

When healthy and on the field, these are still the two best WRs in the game. I see them as very good value next year.

 

[packersfan]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5. He's a lock, no matter where he ends up. The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

I had him there, just below the more stable Jackson. Anyone else feel the same about D-Jax for 2006?1. Torry Holt

2. Larry Fitzgerald

3. Steve Smith

4. Darrell Jackson

5. Terrell Owens

TOADS

I think DJax could very easily be a monster next season and it would not be a surprise to see him crack the Top 5 (although I won't rank him that high). Consider that before his injury he was on pace for a 116-1,504-8 season. Think his injury didn't kill a few fantasy seasons? :(

Mine was one of them (along with Javon & others). I know, I know - But seriously - I think the added emphasis that teams are going to have to place on stopping that Seattle rushing game will continue to open up GREAT opportunities for D-Jax next year. He's still going to have a solid WR#2 & #3 opposite of him as well to keep pressure away ... he'll be underrated on draft boards next year for sure - top 5 value for a 10-15 WR (or later?) selection??

TOADS

I can keep one player in my league and DJax is one of the three guys I'm considering for next season. If I don't keep him, I'm going to do everything I can to get him because I think he is going to have a huge season. I don't care where he's ranked by anyone else I can guarantee he'll be a Top 10 WR in my rankings next season barring something unforeseen.

 

[iSnitch]

I'd love to draft TO as the 6th receiver off the board in a league with all you guys not putting him in your top 5.  He's a lock, no matter where he ends up.  The first season is going to be a honeymoon period with TO anyways.

As I pointed out, I feel TO and Steve Smith are the only two worthy of the number one spot. Of course, when you factor in TO's implosion factor, I bump him down. That's merely a personal thing, you might not care about that kinda stuff. I'd take Smith, Holt, CJ before TO without question. I might take Fitzgerald, Moss, Moss or Boldin before him as well.

I'm an Eagles fan. I fully understand the implosion factor, but it's non-existant in year 1. As I said before, it's going to be a honeymoon period for the first year, and he's going to explode. I just don't see that many starting QBs in the NFL that can hold TO down, and when you weed out the teams that he obviously won't sign with, there are probably no situations in which he'll have a terrible QB. I would be inclined to put him at 1, but I think Chad Johnson busts out next year.1. CJ

2. TO

3. SS

4. TH

5. RM

Why do you think next year Chad will "bust things out"? As was noted earlier:

+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Rushing | Receiving |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| 2001 cin | 12 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 28 329 11.8 1 |

| 2002 cin | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 69 1166 16.9 5 |

| 2003 cin | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 90 1355 15.1 10 |

| 2004 cin | 16 | 4 39 9.8 0 | 95 1274 13.4 9 |

| 2005 cin | 15 | 4 27 6.8 0 | 93 1377 14.8 9 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 75 | 8 66 8.2 0 | 375 5501 14.7 34 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Three years running that his totals have been close to identical. Why would his numbers suddenly skyrocket? You mean he might have a Steve Smith type explosion? Why will Smith fall back to earth? Because Delhomme won't lock onto the #1 wr next year?

What about Henry and Houshxxxx? They came on nicely. If the Bengals D continues to improve they may not need to pass as much...

 

[Wingnut]

Why do you think next year Chad will "bust things out"?

Three years running that his totals have been close to identical. Why would his numbers suddenly skyrocket? You mean he might have a Steve Smith type explosion? Why will Smith fall back to earth? Because Delhomme won't lock onto the #1 wr next year?

What about Henry and Houshxxxx? They came on nicely. If the Bengals D continues to improve they may not need to pass as much...

If Palmer is the next Manning-type player (and I think its safe to say its a fact), it stands to reason that his #1WR will be elite. If they continue to work together in the offseason like Peyton and Marvin do (CP and CJ drove to an Indy game this year to scout Manning/Harrison), I see no reason why Chad doesnt improve his TD totals over the next couple of seasons (his yardage cant get much better). Him and Palmer are both young and will only get better together with time."Busting out" isnt a term Id use but id for sure say his numbers will get better (particularly his TDs).

 

[turkishkamel]

I'd rate the top 5 as:

1. Chad Johnson

2. Torry Holt

3. Larry Fitzgerald

4. Steve Smith

5. Marvin Harrison

Lot of people have Boldin ranked up here, but he's got to show me one injury-free season before I'll draft him this high.

Each year I keep wondering how much longer Harrison will stay in the top five and each year he squeaks in. I'll repeat myself yet again and say next year he's not top five. One of these times I'll be right...

3 years in the league and boldin has two 100 catch seasons. this guy is a monster. 1. C. Johnson

2. Steve Smith

3. Torry Holt

4. A.Boldin

5. L.Fitzgerald

oh yeah, TO's gonna have a real big year next year too

 

[Boulder Toads]

wing/snitchI tend to agree with the theory that CJ is at or near his max potential and will continue to range around the 90-100 catch, 1350-1450 yd, 9-12 TD level.These are GREAT numbers mind you, but I see more of the uncaptured upside of the improved CIN passing offense to be distributed to his (when healthy) complementary WRs (TJ+Chris) and RBs (Perry). I think CJ remains a solid WR #5-7 for years to come under this Offense.TOADS

 

[iSnitch]

Why do you think next year Chad will "bust things out"? 

Three years running that his totals have been close to identical.  Why would his numbers suddenly skyrocket?  You mean he might have a Steve Smith type explosion?  Why will Smith fall back to earth?  Because Delhomme won't lock onto the #1 wr next year?

What about Henry and Houshxxxx?  They came on nicely.  If the Bengals D continues to improve they may not need to pass as much...

If Palmer is the next Manning-type player (and I think its safe to say its a fact), it stands to reason that his #1WR will be elite. If they continue to work together in the offseason like Peyton and Marvin do (CP and CJ drove to an Indy game this year to scout Manning/Harrison), I see no reason why Chad doesnt improve his TD totals over the next couple of seasons (his yardage cant get much better). Him and Palmer are both young and will only get better together with time."Busting out" isnt a term Id use but id for sure say his numbers will get better (particularly his TDs).

I am far from saying CJ will be 'elite', just skeptical as to him finishing #1. His numbers would have to get MUCH better to pass Smith or TO. Heck, Holt finished top five and he missed a significant portion of the year.Before week 17, Steve Smith had outscored the #2 wr by 40 points. That is a large difference. For anybody other than TO to surpass him (TO was doing better 'til the suspension), it would take a HUGE dropoff and a superhuman leap.

Fine, Smith won't do as well next year because they will focus on their star back, Foster, and pound away all game. But the other nominees have equal question marks. Arizona can't run the ball any less than they did this season. If they get some halfway decent rb (Barlow or whoever), that's less for Fitz. Heck, if Boldin stays healthy that's less for Fitz.

Holt? Piss poor D but who's the new coach? What's his style?

Harrison? Relatively few questions about him.

Moss? Without a work ethic and without turf to play on, will he ever again be the same?

Moss jr? I don't know if I'd rank Santana in the top five but he looks pretty good.

 

[Wingnut]

Why do you think next year Chad will "bust things out"?

Three years running that his totals have been close to identical. Why would his numbers suddenly skyrocket? You mean he might have a Steve Smith type explosion? Why will Smith fall back to earth? Because Delhomme won't lock onto the #1 wr next year?

What about Henry and Houshxxxx? They came on nicely. If the Bengals D continues to improve they may not need to pass as much...

If Palmer is the next Manning-type player (and I think its safe to say its a fact), it stands to reason that his #1WR will be elite. If they continue to work together in the offseason like Peyton and Marvin do (CP and CJ drove to an Indy game this year to scout Manning/Harrison), I see no reason why Chad doesnt improve his TD totals over the next couple of seasons (his yardage cant get much better). Him and Palmer are both young and will only get better together with time."Busting out" isnt a term Id use but id for sure say his numbers will get better (particularly his TDs).

I am far from saying CJ will be 'elite', just skeptical as to him finishing #1. His numbers would have to get MUCH better to pass Smith or TO. Heck, Holt finished top five and he missed a significant portion of the year.Before week 17, Steve Smith had outscored the #2 wr by 40 points. That is a large difference. For anybody other than TO to surpass him (TO was doing better 'til the suspension), it would take a HUGE dropoff and a superhuman leap.

Fine, Smith won't do as well next year because they will focus on their star back, Foster, and pound away all game. But the other nominees have equal question marks. Arizona can't run the ball any less than they did this season. If they get some halfway decent rb (Barlow or whoever), that's less for Fitz. Heck, if Boldin stays healthy that's less for Fitz.

Holt? Piss poor D but who's the new coach? What's his style?

Harrison? Relatively few questions about him.

Moss? Without a work ethic and without turf to play on, will he ever again be the same?

Moss jr? I don't know if I'd rank Santana in the top five but he looks pretty good.

I dont think Smith wont do well, I have him as WR2 on my board as of right now. In my league, going into week 17, the top 4 WRs were Smith (136pts), Harrison (118pts), S Moss(114pts), CJ(111pts). So Smith was only ahead of CJ by 25 points, and CJ was behind #2 Harrison by only 7 points. And the difference between Smith at #1 and Harrison at #2 was 18 points.So it all depends on your scoring as far as dropoffs go. Ive seen some leagues where Smith is far and away the best fantasy WR, and others where its by a slimmer margin.

There are some question marks with some of the top guys, but I think Chad and Smith are the 2 safest bets right now.

 

[iSnitch]

Why do you think next year Chad will "bust things out"? 

Three years running that his totals have been close to identical.  Why would his numbers suddenly skyrocket?  You mean he might have a Steve Smith type explosion?  Why will Smith fall back to earth?  Because Delhomme won't lock onto the #1 wr next year?

What about Henry and Houshxxxx?  They came on nicely.  If the Bengals D continues to improve they may not need to pass as much...

If Palmer is the next Manning-type player (and I think its safe to say its a fact), it stands to reason that his #1WR will be elite. If they continue to work together in the offseason like Peyton and Marvin do (CP and CJ drove to an Indy game this year to scout Manning/Harrison), I see no reason why Chad doesnt improve his TD totals over the next couple of seasons (his yardage cant get much better). Him and Palmer are both young and will only get better together with time."Busting out" isnt a term Id use but id for sure say his numbers will get better (particularly his TDs).

I am far from saying CJ will be 'elite', just skeptical as to him finishing #1. His numbers would have to get MUCH better to pass Smith or TO. Heck, Holt finished top five and he missed a significant portion of the year.Before week 17, Steve Smith had outscored the #2 wr by 40 points. That is a large difference. For anybody other than TO to surpass him (TO was doing better 'til the suspension), it would take a HUGE dropoff and a superhuman leap.

Fine, Smith won't do as well next year because they will focus on their star back, Foster, and pound away all game. But the other nominees have equal question marks. Arizona can't run the ball any less than they did this season. If they get some halfway decent rb (Barlow or whoever), that's less for Fitz. Heck, if Boldin stays healthy that's less for Fitz.

Holt? Piss poor D but who's the new coach? What's his style?

Harrison? Relatively few questions about him.

Moss? Without a work ethic and without turf to play on, will he ever again be the same?

Moss jr? I don't know if I'd rank Santana in the top five but he looks pretty good.

I dont think Smith wont do well, I have him as WR2 on my board as of right now. In my league, going into week 17, the top 4 WRs were Smith (136pts), Harrison (118pts), S Moss(114pts), CJ(111pts). So Smith was only ahead of CJ by 25 points, and CJ was behind #2 Harrison by only 7 points. And the difference between Smith at #1 and Harrison at #2 was 18 points.So it all depends on your scoring as far as dropoffs go. Ive seen some leagues where Smith is far and away the best fantasy WR, and others where its by a slimmer margin.

There are some question marks with some of the top guys, but I think Chad and Smith are the 2 safest bets right now.

Good points. Glad to see we mostly agree.

 

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1) CJohnson2) THolt3) SSmith4) Fitzgerald5) RMoss6-10 (no particular order) TO, SMoss, Boldin, Harrison, DJacksonI think RMoss will be a big value next year - 2 injury seasons, depressed numbers (for him) and the stat guys will start to say he's done, relegated to a #2 WR spot, etc. He may slip in drafts (unless he's taken on pure name recognition) to the mid to late 3rd rounds, I'm thinking, maybe even into the 4th depending on the league. I don't know if RMoss will get back to the level were he was contending for #1, but top 5 should be doable. I don't think he should be one of the top 5 drafted though - too many questions - health, QB, coach, offensive strategy in OAK, etc. He'll slip for good reason, but I think the person that takes the chance will get good value.Also DJackson should be really good value if people forget to discount the injury, and actually extrapolate the numbers.

 

[iSnitch]

1) CJohnson

2) THolt

3) SSmith

4) Fitzgerald

5) RMoss

6-10 (no particular order) TO, SMoss, Boldin, Harrison, DJackson

I think RMoss will be a big value next year - 2 injury seasons, depressed numbers (for him) and the stat guys will start to say he's done, relegated to a #2 WR spot, etc. He may slip in drafts (unless he's taken on pure name recognition) to the mid to late 3rd rounds, I'm thinking, maybe even into the 4th depending on the league. I don't know if RMoss will get back to the level were he was contending for #1, but top 5 should be doable. I don't think he should be one of the top 5 drafted though - too many questions - health, QB, coach, offensive strategy in OAK, etc. He'll slip for good reason, but I think the person that takes the chance will get good value.

Also DJackson should be really good value if people forget to discount the injury, and actually extrapolate the numbers.

Four weeks and you project an entire season for Jackson? I think you need at least half a season if you're going to accurately do that kinda thing. Look at Marvin Harrison for the first four weeks of last year-if he had been hurt would you have expected him to stay on pace?

 

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1. Terrell Owens2. Chad Johnson3. Steve Smith4. Torry Holt5. Larry Fitzgerald6. Randy Moss7. Hines Ward8. Marvin Harrison9. Anquan Boldin10. Santana MossWildcards (guys that could be top 10)Chris Chambers - new QBDarrell Jackson - just missedBraylon Edwards - injury?Plaxico Buress - fell off, but another year will help the connectionRoy Williams - new QB, OC, HC, GM...Matt Jones - a healthy Leftwich

 

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As mentioned, there is way too much turnover at the top 5 year after year. The only guys I feel comfortable saying will probably be there (barring injury) are Holt and Chad (maybe Owens if he goes to a team that doesn't have a rookie QB). Seems like a crapshoot for the other two or three.

 

[iSnitch]

As mentioned, there is way too much turnover at the top 5 year after year.

The only guys I feel comfortable saying will probably be there (barring injury) are Holt and Chad (maybe Owens if he goes to a team that doesn't have a rookie QB).

Seems like a crapshoot for the other two or three.

Why do you feel Smith is less of a lock? Over the past couple years, the Panthers have been the wr equivilant of the Chiefs/Broncos to running backs. Whoever is the number one receiver in Carolina will have a big year.