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Torry Holt's Luck Ran Out (1 Viewer)
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Gottabesweet1
Footballguy
<-------------------- ALSO FOND OF IT AS WELL
Wow I love this thread. It's funny to see Bristol talk so much crap that he doesn't realize he contradicts himself quite a bit. I especially love how Goingfor2 called Bristol out for using cheatsheets. Didn't Bristol say those were for "sackless underlings"? I guess you're missing your nutsacks Bris. 
I don't know what it's going to take for Bristol to be a man and own up to his mistakes. Based on this whole season of NFL he has shown time after time that he will never do that. Everyone keeps telling him all it would take would be for him to admit his mistakes but it will never happen. I just keep reading this thread to get my laughs from eveyone owning him on a consistent basis. Thanks to all you guys for the great laughs, especially Goingfor2,smlevin,thefanatic,JAA, and the Oracle a.k.a. Bristol a.k.a. Bris a.k.a. the muffin girl.
I don't know what it's going to take for Bristol to be a man and own up to his mistakes. Based on this whole season of NFL he has shown time after time that he will never do that. Everyone keeps telling him all it would take would be for him to admit his mistakes but it will never happen. I just keep reading this thread to get my laughs from eveyone owning him on a consistent basis. Thanks to all you guys for the great laughs, especially Goingfor2,smlevin,thefanatic,JAA, and the Oracle a.k.a. Bristol a.k.a. Bris a.k.a. the muffin girl.If it's a contest and you are so hellbent on the fact that Holt would underperform with Faulk coming back in week 10 why would you pick him? Contest or not, according to you he was going back to the Torry holt of old - 80 yards and no TD. If you're trying to win the contest why pick someone who is only gonna get you 80 yards? Why not pick someone that will grab you more points. I mean, you've played fantasy football for ten years now, as you stated, you should be able to pick another player who would outperform Holt since, again, he was going to be an average player with Faulk coming back. If you even half beileved in your predicitons you WOULD NOT HAVE PICKED HIM FOR YOUR TEAM AFTER WEEK 10 WHEN FAULK CAME BACK. And don't use the excuse that you didn't know if Faulk was actually playing. You're on a fantasy football site PACKED with info about this.Sure, Holt stunk up the joint in week 10 with the rest of the offense but week 11 he posted a nice game. You obviously benefitted from it since he was in your lineup. Just because you didn't put Holt in your lineup this week doens't mean s**t. You put him in your lineup the three prior weeks and then come out with this brilliant thread. If you think this guy is gonna suck so hard with Faulk coming back why use him even if he's on the top five list. You have your reasoning for saying he's gonna suck so why use him. Why?Way to twist things around AGIAN. What is your deal? You must have A LOT of time on your hands.Did you happen to check out the lineup I submitted this week? You probably did, but didn't post it because you have an agenda to meet.By the way Bristol, nothing like hedging your bets eh?
Guess what? Holt is not in it.
When I pick my teams for this Falguy contest, I usually just look at the top 5 from the cheatsheets and pick from there. I really don't look at matchups or other factors. Holt had the hot hand but it's over now and he is not in my lineup this week because of that belief. IT'S A FRIGGIN CONTEST DOUCE!!!
The fact you start this thread and then pick him for your team means you are either very hypocritical or you are bi-polar.
CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
You know, occasionally, I find a thread simply worth reading because of its informative and incredibly relevant content. This is not one of those threads. This thread is worth reading as a warning (to me) about what happens when you lose sight of the point and try to prove yourself right regardless of whether you actually are. This hurts.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Smleven, you need to go with the equivalent points. WR performance is such a crap shoot. Go with 80 and a tuddie or the equivalent 140. It's a bad bet otherwise.Edited to say, I'm a little disappointed that that Briss (a very appropriate new nickname - look it up) didn't pop in and pop off. I so look forward to his moronic claims. Has he figured out that everyone else on this thread is against him? When it's you against the world, either you're a singular genius or a raving lunatic. Which do you think Briss is?
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
No kidding....But if Briss doesn't come back to and hopelessly defend his position, this is going to get boring. That was his only positive attribute, persistence. Misguided persistence, but persistence none the less!!!
If you read the last reposnse to me (not to the thread, but directed at me), he looks like he's getting a bit weary of defending himself.He's weakening a bit - and hasn't even popped in to accept or reject our sig. bet. I am ignoring all advice regarding FF points, and leaving it as it stands in my earlier post on the topic.This thread will not die until after Sunday's games. But, after that, it should be laid to rest.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Back to the top.....Bump, Bump, Bump....
Gottabesweet1
Footballguy
bristol i really hate you
B Maverick
Footballguy
:reg: 
Bristol
Footballguy
We have a bet, but when you lose, I want your signature to read as this:"Out of all of the FBG's, Bristol has the most keen intellect on this board. I recently challenged him on this notion and lost. His predictions on Torry Holt and Domanick Davis were correct. I was wrong and sorry for doubting Bristol. It will never happen again."You can't say no to that. I don't like the one you picked because it is too ambiguous and can be read different ways. The sig above clearly states the spirit of the bet and is "being excellent to one another"And as a side note, IF Torry Holt goes for 125 plus yards and a TD and Domanick Davis rushes for over 100 yards with 30 plus yards receiving with a TD, I will start drinking the Kool Aid with the rest of you and give them the full Bristol endorsement. This, of course, is a BIF IF. After all, if they are able to put up those kind of numbers for another week, they will make a believer out of me. I don't think they are unbelievable numebrs that cannot be attained given their performances over the past month or so. We will see.... And I am sorry if my absence upset most of you the past couple of days. I know that a lot of you log onto this board to get your daily Bristol fix and my absence has left a void in all of your lives. But, truth be told, unlike most of you, I do have a life outside of this board. My job has had me tied up the past couple of days traveling and the weekend days are for my wife and kids. Sorry if I meesed up your schedule of entertainment, but I do interact face to face with people on a daily basis, and don't spend the majority of my time hanging around this board waiting for someone to post. For those of you that are looking for some sort of Bristol posting schedule, here it is: I usually post Monday to Friday around noon while I am on lunch. I again post anywhere between 8 and 11 most nights. Ont he weekend, it's hard to nail down when I will post since I never know how my weekends look. I try to get on before gametime on Sundays and again between 8 and 11pm on Sunday night.Now you know the Bristol schedule. Tomorrow is the big day as long as SMELLVIN accepts the signature that I want for him. I fully agree with the signature that he has picked for me and will add it if I lose.Again the bet is:Torry Holt 80 rec yards and 1 TDDom. Davis 100 combined yards (75 on the ground)Every aspect of this bet MUST be met (yardage and TD requirements) for Smellvin to win. If one of the three are not met, I win. The bet continues regardless of injury or playing time for the mentioned players. There is no loophole to get out of this bet.The signature must be added tomorrow night after the bet has been decided and must remain on the losers profile for 1 week. It will run through next Sunday and can be changed back a week from Monday.Do you agree to these terms Smellvin? If you do, then we have a bet. Just respond back and let the games begin.
Legion of Doom
Footballguy
Well Bristol,I give you credit for coming back,most would not the have! 
Repressed Dennis
Footballguy
A little game day bumpage...
CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
Nope.
Legion of Doom
Footballguy
Bristol won this battle,but the war is not over. Holt looked pretty good today.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Bristol didn't win any war today. Holt had 9 for 145, which is a great day for a wide receiver. Just because he didn't score doesn't mean his luck ran out. Anyone can predict that a WR won't keep scoring every week. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. It takes common sense.
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Bristol
Footballguy
Ahhhhh....The sweet taste to VICTORY!!! In the words of Hannibal from the A-Team: "I love it when a plan comes together!!"Just got back from Philly. Watched my Birds whip the Aint's and jst seen that I have won on not one, but TWO components of the bet.Now, we will see if Smellvin has CREDIBILITY. Last week, he called me out and said that I had none and that the only way to have it restored was to make this foolish bet with him. Well, I did, and it looks like Smellvin has gone into hiding.You see, I NEVER run away from what I say and will back it to the death. It remains to be seen if Smellvin will lose his CREDIBILITY on this board and not pay up, or if he take it like a man.Which is it Smell?
Big Score
Footballguy
You know, this thread is really over and has been for a couple of weeks now. Bristol predicted that Faulks return would negatively impact Holts numbers. That prediction didn't work out.Bristol was wrong. He knows it and we know it. I mean what's the big deal? If Bristol doesn't want to publicly admit that his prediction didn't work out, while that might seem silly, so what. It's his perogative. Leave the guy alone.
I was gonna have a nice concilliatory posting here, as I have been at work all day and wasn't able to check in, but then I read this.I was fully prepared to be a gracious loser, but since you are not being a gracious winner, I will not be a gracious loser. You were 100 percent wrong on Torry Holt. Still, congratulations on winning the bet.And, despite what I am forced to post in my sig for this next week, I will not be obeying its edict.
Bristol
Footballguy
At this point, it has nothing to do with whether I was right or wrong. It has everything to do with the fact that smellvin lost the bet that he proposed and I agreed to.It's funny how he is everywhere on this board except for when he loses a bet.This thread will get bumped to the first page everyday until smellvin pays his dues.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
Tory Holt 9 catches 145 yards...Any1 who said Faulks return would be the end of Holt has clearly been proven wrong. A Pyrrhic victory if there ever was one.
Sums it all up.
Actually he said Holt would regress to 80 yards and no TDs just so everyone is clear and not confused by the terms of smelvins bet which has nothing to do with the main issue at hand. Not even close to those numbers in the last two weeks. BTW, Faulk has 100 yards in each of the last two weeks to boot. Game over. 
One victory in the war doesn't mean s**t.Regardless of your GRAND bet with smelvin your original premise for this thread has not been strong. This WHOLE thread was predicated on your comment that with Faulk coming back from injury, Holt was going to start sucking (or in your words 80 yds and maybe a TD). So far Holt hasn't fallen on his face.Let's look at the three games that Faulk has been back:Week 10 - 20 attempts for 48 yards 2 TD's / 3 receptions for 6 yardsWeek 11 - 20 attempts for 103 yards and 0 TD's / 3 receptions for 21 yardsWeek 12 - 24 attempts for 100 yards and 1 TD / 5 receptions for 33 yardsAverage - 21.3 attempts for 83.6 yards and 1 TD / 3.6 receptions for 20 yardsHere are Holt's numbers for those same two weeks:Week 10 - 3 receptions for 38 yards and 0 TD'sWeek 11 - 9 receptions for 124 yards and 1 TDWeek 12 - 9 receptions for 145 yards and 0 TD'sAverage - 7 receptions for 102.3 yards and .33 TD'sHolt has been weak in the TD department the past three weeks but he has not outright sucked nor gone back to the "80 yards" Holt. Considering that Faulk is getting an average combined 24.9 touches a game, 103.6 yards a game, and one tuddie a game, Holt's numbers are not shabby seeing that he's only touched the ball an average of 7 times a game. So in roughly 2/3rds less activity Holt is almost matching the output of the mighty Marshall Faulk.After you hypocritically put Holt in your Falguys lineup for three weeks (after claiming you just look at the weekly sheets which I think you also claimed that cheat sheets were for "sackless underlings"), he might not have been a bad play considering he outperformed Randy Moss this week.
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He's only grade A entertainment to watch him dodge the comments flying at him. The fact that he really hasn't answered anyone's arguments to his original reason for posting and that is what makes this entire thread funny.When he is given numbers and strong arguments to debate his point, he doesn't respond.When he's called out for using Holt for two of the three weeks when Faulk came back, he claims that all he does is look at the weekly cheat sheets to get player names. To make that statement is hilarious since he claims that cheat sheets are worthless and those that use them are essentially stupid.All he has really done is get into a silly little signature bet with smelvin that had little to do with his Torry "80 yards and maybe a TD" Holt comment. Let's look again at some of his original arguments:
All that right after the Baltimore game when the entire Rams offense sputtered. He has failed to comment for the production that BOTH Faulk and Holt have had for the past two weeks. I said this before, Holt has been weak in the TD department for the past three weeks but considering he get's two-thirds less play calling than Faulk, it's amazing that his stats are similar to Faulks COMBINED RUSHING AND RECEIVING STATS and to top it off Holt has Bruce, Looker, Faulk and others that get looks from Bulger in the receiving department. Faulk really has no one to worry about to steal many carries from him. Here are the numbers:Faulk's past three game average - 24.9 touches for 103.6 yards and 1 TDHolt's past three game average - 7 touches for 102.3 yards and .33 TD'sHolt has not returned to the "Holt of old". His yardage has not "vanished in the blink of an eye". Holt's TD's are down but they have not vanished. The numbers do not provide a paper thin argument. His constant dodging of these arguments is what is becoming thin. Go back to arguing the original point or let it die and accept the fact that this stellar predicition has not come true.
Sorry...coming in on this late. I think that Bruce's whining about not getting the ball will have more of an effect on Torry than Marshall. It's amazing that when an nfl receiver whines, they actually get him the ball the next week. That's not the way to raise kids, but I guess it is the way to manage a football team. Bulger looked awful trying to force the ball to Bruce yesterday.
JohnnyTitan
Footballguy
My turn to chime in.The main issue was Torry Holt's decline, not the side-bet made with Smlevin.Holt continues to produce obscene numbers, and anyone taking Bristol's advice (Trade him right away!) would be ashamed for doing so.Bristol was, and continues to be, DEAD wrong about Holt...week in and week out.Also, noted by an earlier poster, Bristol is always "Predicting" the decline of someone's numbers. Even the best player is going to have an off-week (DD), which Bristol jumps at as a "VICTORY". Give me a break.Next year I'll be looking for Bristol to make some pre-season predictions about who is going to do well. Until then, he can chew gum and suck-###.
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