Trade on the table is accepted after Lynch news is heard (1 Viewer)

[shnikies]

I'm not involved in this trade but it seems like a tough one to rule on.

Scenario: Team A offers Ronnie Brown and Jermaine Gresham for Team B's Justin Forsett and Aaron Hernandez. The trade is sitting on the table when the news is released that Lynch has been traded to the Seahawks and Team B quickly goes and accepts the trade before Team A can cancel it. Do you think the trade should be allowed or vetoed?

 

[RJS113]

Tough luck. No way should the trade be vetoed.

 

[bigmarc27]

I don't think it should be vetoed, but it's a ##### thing to do. I'm not a guy with 30 leagues - I play in 4 or 5 with friends. We like to beat each other, but we don't do underhanded stuff like this.

It's a game and stuff like that takes the fun out of it. It's like watching little league with the dad who's teaching a 5 year old to throw a curve and has him on a strength conditioning program.

 

[rascal]

It just happened to me. I was at work and couldn't repeal the offer of Kevin Walter for Forsett. My loss his gain.

 

[flranger]

I'd say allow it. Once Moss is gone from NE, Hernandez will be more of a stud than the other three bums put together.

Reminds me of last years Steve Smith vs. Steve Smith draft pick debacle that turned out exactly opposite of predictions.

 

[jafo]

No.

 

[SproutDaddy]

That's the way the cookie crumbles. What is this veto thing?

 

[notdarkyet]

An offer is on the table until it is pulled off the table or accepted.

 

[gethugefast1]

I'm not involved in this trade but it seems like a tough one to rule on.Scenario: Team A offers Ronnie Brown and Jermaine Gresham for Team B's Justin Forsett and Aaron Hernandez. The trade is sitting on the table when the news is released that Lynch has been traded to the Seahawks and Team B quickly goes and accepts the trade before Team A can cancel it. Do you think the trade should be allowed or vetoed?

21st century technology is like this wild west...slowest draw usually gets killed

 

[Black]

Team B is douchey, but hey, you play to win, right?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

of course it should be allowed --- why is there even a question?

 

[duaneok66]

of course it should be allowed --- why is there even a question?

agreed . . .wow, he made an offer, other team accepted . . .next question . . .

 

[Football Jones]

It's a legal trade. That said, I wouldn't do it. But it's not so people can pat me on the back.

I wouldn't want someone doing it to me. FF is a cut-throat hobby, but you don't have to do things like that. It's unsportsman-like, IMO.

Not only that, karma will kick your ### just for grins. What comes around goes around. I firmly believe that.

 

[schu]

I'd like to see the trade software give the option to confirm within 30 min of acceptance by the other party. With prevalence of smart phones, this is reasonable.

 

[Sammy Traveller]

it would be nice to see an option in online leagues that if the status of a player changes -- e.g. player suddenly goes on injury report, or a change of teams occurs, and a trade is done within one hour of the news, then it gets held up, and automatic emails sent to the parties in the trade notifying them of the status change and asking if BOTH still consent to the trade. if they both consent and trade goes thru, then no dispute.

 

[ookook]

I am not a fan of any so-called veto options. So let it stand.

With that said, personally I will always trade back to reverse if the owner requests it immediatly. I never want to win that way; it is about integrity.

 

[GregR_2]

This is about the 5th time I've said this already this season:

Don't use the league website's trade system to negotiate trades. Do it first in email, on the phone or in person. When you reach an agreement, then go out to the website to actually execute the trade. Then you're never putting yourself at risk for this kind of situation.

 

[da_budman]

Absolutely no reason to veto it. I wouldn't pull something like that though because karma is a #####.

 

[J Giles Band]

This is about the 5th time I've said this already this season:

Don't use the league website's trade system to negotiate trades. Do it first in email, on the phone or in person. When you reach an agreement, then go out to the website to actually execute the trade. Then you're never putting yourself at risk for this kind of situation.

 

[Shadows]

This is about the 5th time I've said this already this season:

Don't use the league website's trade system to negotiate trades. Do it first in email, on the phone or in person. When you reach an agreement, then go out to the website to actually execute the trade. Then you're never putting yourself at risk for this kind of situation.

Doesnt get any simplier than this

 

[mdlane]

I would vote to veto it.

Where do you draw the line if you don't? Suppose some jack### sends out multiple lopsided trade offers to people and someone accidentally hits "accept". Does that stand, too? There are rules of fair play that I think we can all recognize. Making a mistake is one of them.

Moreover, trading is already incredibly difficult to get done in fantasy football. Why in the world would you want to come at this with a hardnose attitude that would discourage people from putting trades out there?

And finally, I think there is room for sportsmanship and fair play in any hobby/game/activity. Everyone enjoys playing games more when people are civil and sportsmanlike to each other.

All that said, if the guy that lost out on the deal is OK with his loss, I wouldn't push the issue too much with the league. A similar situation happened in a league I was in last year - Reggie Bush got injured in the middle of the week, and a jack### immediately ran to accept an outstanding offer while the other guy was at work. It ended up going through.

 

[GoBills02]

He should've read the Shark pool rumors about the trade for the past 3 weeks.

 

[AngryGorilla]

these things happen. It's done. How many people dropped Vick after week 2 just to have Reid come out 10 minutes later and say Vick was the starter? Those people shouldn't get Vick back, they CHOSE to drop him

 

[shredhead]

I think Team B should have accepted the trade before the Lynch trade was even announced.

I might be inclined to vote for a veto simply based on that fact alone. <--joking of course, but come on, that trade was lopsided irregardless of the Lynch trade.

 

[da_budman]

I would vote to veto it.

Where do you draw the line if you don't? Suppose some jack### sends out multiple lopsided trade offers to people and someone accidentally hits "accept". Does that stand, too? There are rules of fair play that I think we can all recognize. Making a mistake is one of them.

I think accidently hitting accept and leaving a trade out there for a player that everybody knows or should know is on the trading block are 2 totally different situations. The first IS an accident but the second is a mistake not an accident.

Moreover, trading is already incredibly difficult to get done in fantasy football. Why in the world would you want to come at this with a hardnose attitude that would discourage people from putting trades out there?



Because as commish it is not your job to keep people from making mistakes. Where do you draw the line there???? Every mistake you correct can have repercussions unknown at the time to any team in the league, not just those 2.

And finally, I think there is room for sportsmanship and fair play in any hobby/game/activity. Everyone enjoys playing games more when people are civil and sportsmanlike to each other.

Agreed which is why I would never pull a move like this, but ifit is within the rules to do so, correcting the mistake opens up a pandoras box of who knows what proportions?

All that said, if the guy that lost out on the deal is OK with his loss, I wouldn't push the issue too much with the league. A similar situation happened in a league I was in last year - Reggie Bush got injured in the middle of the week, and a jack### immediately ran to accept an outstanding offer while the other guy was at work. It ended up going through.

Again the message here is do not leave trade offers out there. God bless the genius who decided not using the automated league website systems to handle trades at all in my league (me) .

Having said all that people with your attitude are a joy to have in any league and make the commish's job easy.

 

[Pnishthm]

This is about the 5th time I've said this already this season:

Don't use the league website's trade system to negotiate trades. Do it first in email, on the phone or in person. When you reach an agreement, then go out to the website to actually execute the trade. Then you're never putting yourself at risk for this kind of situation.

THIS I'be seen guys offer trades on the league web site and leave the offer there for weeks.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Indeed. I had an offer that included MJD for P. Thomas sitting out there all week, even when Thomas was definitely not going to play. I wouldn't have griped if the other owner craftily accepted at that point but I sure would've tried to drum up some vetos to save myself.

 

[Sigfawn]

Who the hell is voting veto? *lol*

Are you kidding? People knew Lynch was on the block. That's why the guy was probably trying to get him.

Veto isn't to protect people, it's to stop cheating. This thread is ######ed.