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Travis Henry sprained his knee. (MERGED THREAD) (2 Viewers)

If its a MCL sprain he will be fine in 2 weeks IF thats all it is.

still 50/50 IMO wether its a torn MCL or ACL right now .

anytime a player has a knee injury it seems it ends up being acl tear over 50 % of the time even when it looks like nothing.

as a henry owner in 2 leagues I really hope I am wrong.

 
rascal said:
Shanahan: Henry probably has 1st degree MCL strain pending MRIEkuban has ruptured achilles and gone for the year. Bad day for the Broncos.
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First degree isn't terrible but if that's what he has then he'll likely miss 2-4 weeks...
 
4 - Digit Shark said:
rascal said:
Shanahan: Henry probably has 1st degree MCL strain pending MRI
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For those of us who are not MD's this would mean?
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OK, a little research and I found this:In the case of a first degree sprain, sporting activities should not be undertaken for about 3 weeks.

For second degree sprains, the rehabilitation period will be between 6 and 8 weeks. Rehabilitation under the supervision of a chartered physiotherapist is desirable to prevent a recurrence of the injury, which can be common if a return to sport is attempted too early.

In the case of a third degree sprain, where the ligament is completely ruptured, the treatment of choice is surgery to repair the structure. The type of reconstruction used will depend on the exact site of the damage and the preference of the surgeon. Many people find that using a knee brace can be very helpful if they have suffered a Medial Collateral Ligament injury. The brace supports the knee and takes the strain off the ligament during the early stage of injury, particularly when sleeping. The knee brace also provides protection during the later stages of rehabilitation. Running in a swimming pool, using a buoyancy aid, is an ideal method of maintaining fitness while the ligament is healing.

 
This is not the Denver line of a few years back. Gibbs is long gone and the Broncos are drifting from his focus. I expect Denver's running game to regress back to league norms.

 
a bit of decent news -- heres a link to Shanny saying saying if its what they think a minor MCL sorain he could even be ready to play next week.

henry might okay

 
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Quick google search...MCL sprains

Quote from the link above - near the bottom of the article - "It is important to determine the grade of sprain. In a first degree sprain compared to the normal knee, there may be up to 5 mm of motion with a firm endpoint, indicating only microscopic ligament tearing. In a second degree sprain there is 6 to 10 mm of motion with a firm endpoint indicating partial disruption of the ligament and some loss of function. Grade 3 indicates up to 15 mm of motion without a firm endpoint (mushy) indicating a complete tearing of the ligament and complete loss of function."

I'm no doctor, but my thoughts are that he will be OK with a few weeks of rest. I also saw the clip of him walking off. It doesn't look that bad. Some obvious discomfort, but he was able to bend the knee and put weight on it while jogging off. I tore my ACL before and I had difficulty walking after it happened. I could not bend my knee past a certain point. From what I saw, it didn't look that bad. We'll see. I have Henry in 3 leagues, including one in which he is a keeper that I drafted in the 16th round last year. I'd really like to keep him. :thumbup:

 
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This poll from denvers official website

Whose injury from the game against Dallas is most concerning?

» Mike Bell - 7.3%

» Curome Cox - 0.5%

» Ebenezer Ekuban - 12.2%

» Travis Henry - 80.2%

TOTAL VOTES: 247

 
But the fumble wasn't the worst circumstance to befall Henry, as he was one of two starters to suffer injury as Denver's first team left the game not only beaten, but battered.

Within a three-minute second-quarter span, defensive end Ebenezer Ekuban and Henry each limped to the sidelines. Ekuban suffered what was announced in the press box as a strained right Achilles tendon. He could not put weight on his right leg as he left the field and was helped to the bench by members of the Broncos' athletic-training staff. Henry, meanwhile, left the field under his own power but was diagnosed with a sprained left knee.

A quarter later, backup safety Curome Cox and running back Mike Bell left the contest with a right shoulder strain and a left hip strain, respectively.

denverbroncos.com

 
You guys are jumping the gun. Until more is known, I'm going with Shannys initial comments about it being a first degree sprain. They will do MRI tests, but until those are known to speculate it is worse is crazy.

 
rascal said:
You guys are jumping the gun. Until more is known, I'm going with Shannys initial comments about it being a first degree sprain. They will do MRI tests, but until those are known to speculate it is worse is crazy.
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Rascal translation: "I just got Henry in my draft, and am trying to find a way from not punching a hole in my monitor."
 
Burning Sensation said:
rascal said:
You guys are jumping the gun. Until more is known, I'm going with Shannys initial comments about it being a first degree sprain. They will do MRI tests, but until those are known to speculate it is worse is crazy.
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Rascal translation: "I just got Henry in my draft, and am trying to find a way from not punching a hole in my monitor."
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I don't own Henry in any league actually but thanks.
 
rascal said:
Burning Sensation said:
rascal said:
You guys are jumping the gun. Until more is known, I'm going with Shannys initial comments about it being a first degree sprain. They will do MRI tests, but until those are known to speculate it is worse is crazy.
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Rascal translation: "I just got Henry in my draft, and am trying to find a way from not punching a hole in my monitor."
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I don't own Henry in any league actually but thanks.
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Is your name Rascal Henry by chance?
 
Ekuban Out for Year; Henry to Undergo MRI

August 18th, 2007 - 9:54pm by Andrew

A bad night for the Broncos turned worse with the news that defensive end Ebenezer Ekuban will miss the rest of the 2007 season because of a torn Achilles tendon.

Ekuban suffered the injury midway through the second quarter.

Running back Travis Henry also suffered a sprained medial collateral ligament in his left knee. He will undergo an MRI examination back in Denver. If it comes back negative, Head Coach Mike Shanahan said that Henry could return to game action as early as next week.

More to follow …

http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason

 
I havent read through all the posts, but Henry will STILL put up great numbers this year.....in case you havent noticed, this Dallas D is gonna be stout!

 
DexysRunners said:
Hrmmm. Bell is still out there and my late 8th pick is now on the clock. Is Bell the true #2?
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Well, probably not appropriate info for this thread but I am currently one of those owners holding up a draft right now hitting F5 on this thread at a repeated rate. I happen to be in the 9th however. Bell on the wire with an empty RB#4 slot. Just put a late nite high octane no-diet Pepsi Cola down. Nailbiter .... :thumbup:
 
NCPanthersFan said:
DexysRunners said:
Hrmmm. Bell is still out there and my late 8th pick is now on the clock. Is Bell the true #2?
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Well, probably not appropriate info for this thread but I am currently one of those owners holding up a draft right now hitting F5 on this thread at a repeated rate. I happen to be in the 9th however. Bell on the wire with an empty RB#4 slot. Just put a late nite high octane no-diet Pepsi Cola down. Nailbiter .... :thumbup:
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What about Sapp? No chance to be the #2RB?
 
Routilla said:
NCPanthersFan said:
DexysRunners said:
Hrmmm. Bell is still out there and my late 8th pick is now on the clock. Is Bell the true #2?
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Well, probably not appropriate info for this thread but I am currently one of those owners holding up a draft right now hitting F5 on this thread at a repeated rate. I happen to be in the 9th however. Bell on the wire with an empty RB#4 slot. Just put a late nite high octane no-diet Pepsi Cola down. Nailbiter .... :thumbup:
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What about Sapp? No chance to be the #2RB?
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my guess is if henry is down for any real length of time it`s back to rbbc....with bell starting
 
I had a 2nd degree MCL sprain as a senior in high school. It was very bad. I was back in the 2nd week but shouldn't have been. It took me 2 months to get healthy, this injury scares me for Henry. Not good.

 
* A first degree sprain is damage to only a few ligament fibres.

* A second degree sprain is damage to a more extensive number of ligament fibres, but the ligament remains intact.

* A third degree sprain is a complete rupture of the ligament. Because of the force involved in this injury other structures in the knee, such as the Meniscus (Cartilage) or the Anterior Cruciate Ligament can also be damaged.

 
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* A first degree sprain is damage to only a few ligament fibres.* A second degree sprain is damage to a more extensive number of ligament fibres, but the ligament remains intact.* A third degree sprain is a complete rupture of the ligament. Because of the force involved in this injury other structures in the knee, such as the Meniscus (Cartilage) or the Anterior Cruciate Ligament can also be damaged.
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1st degree -- Henry returns week 1 to start2nd degree Henry is out a month likley starts after week 5 -- but in that case if Sapp or Bell looks good could be a RBBC mess even when he gets back.3rd degree -- may as well be a acl tear becasue he is likley done for season
 
IMO as much as I hate it I am thinking it ends up being at best a 2nd degree sprain -- more than likley a MCL tear. When Henry was walking off it just didn't look minor.

we should all know by mid day tommorow

 
I'm really surprised at how many guys are saying it looked like more than a sprain walking off the field.

Have you guys sprained anything before? I know several guys who have had various kinds of sprained knees and no one walks like normal on it. Hell, spraining your ankle hurts more than breaking it right when it happens.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
I'm really surprised at how many guys are saying it looked like more than a sprain walking off the field.Have you guys sprained anything before? I know several guys who have had various kinds of sprained knees and no one walks like normal on it. Hell, spraining your ankle hurts more than breaking it right when it happens.
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:thumbup: I was just about to post something similar to this. I had a first degree sprain of my MCL earlier this summer playing softball. I could hardly put any weight on it and hobbled off the field. (I probably looked worse than Henry walking off the field because I'm a bigger #### than him) I put ice on it and within an hour or so it was easier to put weight on it. By the next day I could walk pretty much normal. I was limping a little bit but I could get around pretty much pain free. I saw the MRI images, so I know it was a real injury (I saw the edema in the ligament) It was not just me being a ####. I was back playing softball (with a knee brace) the next week and I am fat* and old. Travis Henry is in much better shape than me so he should be fine if it is indeed just a 1st degree sprain. My point is that you can't judge the severity of a sprain based on how someone walks off the field. There is just not very much (if any) difference on how somebody is going to walk whether it's a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree sprain or even a torn ACL for that matter. You just can't tell until the Dr. examines him and looks at the MRI.*I'm not really that fat, but it made the story better. Compared to Henry though, I am fat and old.Edit: Just to add, I am an MRI tech and you guys should know that most of the time the orthopedic surgeon knows before the MRI is even taken whether the ACL is torn or not. It's called a clinical assessment. They did that and called it a MCL sprain. Nothing was said about the ACL, therefore I would guess that nothing is wrong with the ACL unless the Broncos aretrying to hide something. Given that it is only pre season, I don't know what they have to gain by hiding anything. They were pretty up front about Ekuban's injury.
 
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shredhead said:
FreeBaGeL said:
I'm really surprised at how many guys are saying it looked like more than a sprain walking off the field.

Have you guys sprained anything before? I know several guys who have had various kinds of sprained knees and no one walks like normal on it. Hell, spraining your ankle hurts more than breaking it right when it happens.
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:thumbup: I was just about to post something similar to this. I had a first degree sprain of my MCL earlier this summer playing softball. I could hardly put any weight on it and hobbled off the field. (I probably looked worse than Henry walking off the field because I'm a bigger #### than him) I put ice on it and within an hour or so it was easier to put weight on it. By the next day I could walk pretty much normal. I was limping a little bit but I could get around pretty much pain free. I saw the MRI images, so I know it was a real injury (I saw the edema in the ligament) It was not just me being a ####. I was back playing softball (with a knee brace) the next week and I am fat* and old. Travis Henry is in much better shape than me so he should be fine if it is indeed just a 1st degree sprain. My point is that you can't judge the severity of a sprain based on how someone walks off the field. There is just not very much (if any) difference on how somebody is going to walk whether it's a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree sprain or even a torn ACL for that matter. You just can't tell until the Dr. examines him and looks at the MRI.*I'm not really that fat, but it made the story better. Compared to Henry though, I am fat and old.

Edit: Just to add, I am an MRI tech and you guys should know that most of the time the orthopedic surgeon knows before the MRI is even taken whether the ACL is torn or not. It's called a clinical assessment. They did that and called it a MCL sprain. Nothing was said about the ACL, therefore I would guess that nothing is wrong with the ACL unless the Broncos aretrying to hide something. Given that it is only pre season, I don't know what they have to gain by hiding anything. They were pretty up front about Ekuban's injury.
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this makes me feel better
 
yeah, i remember Cedric Benson's knee injury in his rookie year...looked for sure like a ACL...it was a sprain.

Maybe Henry's knee is like Benson's, and they were fathered by Gumby.

hopefully it's nothing, getting hurt in preseason is the worst.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
I REALLY do hate preseason.......no really :goodposting:
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Instead of hating preseason, maybe you should do your homework on Henry. The guy has not played a full season forever....why spend a 1st rounder on him? He was an injury waiting to happen.....and people calle Fred taylor fragile? Henry is far worse than Taylor.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
I'm really surprised at how many guys are saying it looked like more than a sprain walking off the field.Have you guys sprained anything before? I know several guys who have had various kinds of sprained knees and no one walks like normal on it. Hell, spraining your ankle hurts more than breaking it right when it happens.
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Its just some opinions. It didnt look like the frequent "ow, this really hurts", it looked like "uh oh something is wrong". Just an observation at a glance, nothing more.
 
shredhead said:
Edit: Just to add, I am an MRI tech and you guys should know that most of the time the orthopedic surgeon knows before the MRI is even taken whether the ACL is torn or not. It's called a clinical assessment. They did that and called it a MCL sprain. Nothing was said about the ACL, therefore I would guess that nothing is wrong with the ACL unless the Broncos aretrying to hide something. Given that it is only pre season, I don't know what they have to gain by hiding anything. They were pretty up front about Ekuban's injury.
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I dont think any more then what Shanny said would be released until the "percautionary" MRIHenry has shown in his career he is a tough guy. I would hold my breath though. I could diagnose a ruptured Achillies, but knees are a bit more tricky. I want to see see how this unfolds
 
Henry seems like one of those guys that just can't catch a break unless it's a broken leg. I hope this isn't serious. I always avoid this guy in drafts but I cheer for him on Sundays. He seems like a good guy and a hard worker.

 
4 - Digit Shark said:
rascal said:
Shanahan: Henry probably has 1st degree MCL strain pending MRI
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For those of us who are not MD's this would mean?
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Shanny was quote as saying not only will he start week 1...he expects that if he had to he could start the next preseason game.Mild 1st degree MCL sprain unless MRI shows something surprising. So not that big of a deal if it is all it is.Rest for the next two weeks and be fresh and ready for week 1.Sapp is far >>>> Bell skill wise and has been lighting up camp. IF Henry goes down then it will be RBBC between Bell and Sapp.So fi you pick up Bell you should pick up Sapp.On a sidenote I traded for Henry two days ago.
 
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