Tre Mason (4 Viewers)

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Love the kid.

Love his talent.

Love his situation.

A supposed tough defensive matchup doesnt scare me - he's put up solid ypc against the best of em

Ok Soulfly gun to head: Mason or Gordon.

 

[Tango]

Leveon Bell has had rushing games of 36, 20, 56, 63 and 59yds.

Some of you are ridiculous.

Newsflash: NOONE puts up 100/1+ EVERY SINGLE GAME

But you guaranteed the absolute, undisputed supremacy of Tre Mason versus that of Zac Stacy (not Leveon Bell).

Mason has done 30% less than Zac Stacy's 2013, so Mason has three games to make that up and then far exceed Stacy's number to fulfill that prediction.

I sincerely hope Mason does it, but it seems Mason will be lucky to just break-even versus that of the performance of Zac Stacy.

why is that a benchmark? or relevant?

Good question...bashing Zac Stacy as a means to prop up Mason was all the rage.

I never understood that.

 

[Soulfly3]

Love the kid.

Love his talent.

Love his situation.

A supposed tough defensive matchup doesnt scare me - he's put up solid ypc against the best of em

Ok Soulfly gun to head: Mason or Gordon.

Gordon is my #1 favorite player in the NFL.

Mason was just a stud I needed to have out of college, and do have. Love watching him play.

Gordon tho, trumps all

 

[Tango]

I just hope I win this week so I can start him against the Giants in week 16.

Looks like a good matchup there.

Many seem to be stuck in the same predicament for this week...

Mason

Blount

Herron

Im leaning Mason, but the hesitation is that Cunningham looked as good to my eye as he ever looked last week. Still undecided....

I'm going herron over mason. Cards are tough and although mason will get the carries I can see a week like last week.

Seeing herron in at the goal line on the winning drive was big to me and in a PPR league he has the better chance for a big game.

Herron's 4th down second effort was clutch. It's fascinating to me how Bradshaw's injury has resulted in less opportunity for TRich....and of course Herron gets the spoils. Otherwise, Herron's game last week as quiet as Mason's.

It looks like Matt Shaughnessy is going to play for the Cards which is a slight strike against Mason.

 

[Tango]

I just hope I win this week so I can start him against the Giants in week 16.

Looks like a good matchup there.

Many seem to be stuck in the same predicament for this week...

Mason

Blount

Herron

Im leaning Mason, but the hesitation is that Cunningham looked as good to my eye as he ever looked last week. Still undecided....

I'm going herron over mason. Cards are tough and although mason will get the carries I can see a week like last week.

Seeing herron in at the goal line on the winning drive was big to me and in a PPR league he has the better chance for a big game.

Herron's 4th down second effort was clutch. It's fascinating to me how Bradshaw's injury has resulted in less opportunity for TRich....and of course Herron gets the spoils. Otherwise, Herron's game last week as quiet as Mason's.

It looks like Matt Shaughnessy is going to play for the Cards which is a slight strike against Mason.

I hadnt had a chance to look at the over/unders:

Rams/Cards: 39.5

Colts/Texans: 50

Dolphins/Pats: 49

Raiders/Chiefs: 41.5

So among these marginal starting RBs that's a hard knock against Murray and Mason and boost to Herron and Blount.

 

[Mozeta]

Leveon Bell has had rushing games of 36, 20, 56, 63 and 59yds.

Some of you are ridiculous.

Newsflash: NOONE puts up 100/1+ EVERY SINGLE GAME

But you guaranteed the absolute, undisputed supremacy of Tre Mason versus that of Zac Stacy (not Leveon Bell).

Mason has done 30% less than Zac Stacy's 2013, so Mason has three games to make that up and then far exceed Stacy's number to fulfill that prediction.

I sincerely hope Mason does it, but it seems Mason will be lucky to just break-even versus that of the performance of Zac Stacy.

This is nonsense. He's MUCH better than Stacy. Stacy received the workload in the third game and was active for all of them last year.

Mason didn't even receive a touch until 10/13.

Zac Stacy started getting the ball October 6, 2013. Mason October 13, 2014.

Throw the bye week in there for good measure to help your argument, and there is still no way to make the case that YTD Mason has been as good a fantasy performer this year as Zac Stacy was last year. Sorry.

Any other point is still up for grabs (of course):

• Mason could kick butt the rest of the way...even though he has a long way to go to catch up to Stacy, but he could
• Mason's ADP next year will probably be where Stacy's was this year; if he actually performs to that ADP next year then of course we'd all say Mason is better.

But your claim (ie "much better") regarding 2013 Stacy vs YTD 2014 Mason is just plain false. But hey, I hope to hel* Mason catches up in the next few games.

Fantasy wise, Stacy was better over his first 8 games as a starter compared to Mason's first 8 games. About 122 points from Stacy compared to 99 from Mason in a ppr league.

However, in real life, if you look at the defenses each of them faced, Mason has had it much tougher. If you look at the run defenses and compare them they look like this:

Run D Zac Stacy faced over his first 8 games as a starter:

30th, 23rd, 4th, 15th, 26th, 26th, 31st, and 11th.

Run D Tre Mason has faced over his first 8 games as a starter

6th, 18th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 15th, 27th, and 11th

There are obviously other things you can take into account like the Rams O line then and now, QB play and other weapons around them.

the eye test tells me Mason has looked better and is more explosive, but that doesn't always equate to fantasy points. This week Mason will be facing the 6th ranked run D and based on past performance vs good rush defenses, I don't think it looks good for him to put up big fantasy points. Also throw in the fact that Benny Cunningham comes in for him on a lot of short yardage and goal line stuff and you should be worried starting him. If you don't get a TD from Mason, you won't get many points out of him this week.

I had Stacy last year and I have Mason this year and I felt way more comfortable starting Stacy last year on my fantasy team than I do starting Mason this year. that being said, I feel much more confident in the Rams winning with Mason than I did with Stacy, but all I care about here is my fantasy team, so Mason is on my bench this week.

 

[Tango]

...the eye test tells me Mason has looked better and is more explosive, but that doesn't always equate to fantasy points.

Stacy has/had a 6 to 4 edge in TDs over the first X games for both of them as well.

But generally agree with you though that Mason is more explosive. Also agree that it doesnt necessarily translate into fantasy points and especially short yardage opportunities & production. Mason has had at least one vultured-TD by Cunningham that Stacy probably wouldnt have lost last year due to areas of his skill-set that are better than Mason.

But the whole reason this was brought up and the benchmark that all of this is being measured against is that in this thread and other threads Stacy was made out to be a poor, plodding back and therefore Mason's superior skills...if he had the same opportunity as Stacy...would result in vastly superior performance versus that of the supposedly awful Stacy. Well Mason has had the opportunity and hasnt outperformed Stacy (yet). Instead we ended up getting a Leveon Bell comparison for some reason, and so I thought Id remind the OP that the supposed comparison to Stacy hasnt worked out as envisioned (so far).

 

[BustedKnuckles]

The Cardinals play top-six run defense and limit running backs to 3.77 yards per carry on the season. They're No. 4 inFootball Outsiders' run-defense DVOA. Arizona has given up some big runs lately, however, conceding a 63-yard touchdown to Jamaal Charles in Week 14 and a 55-yarder to Steven Jackson the Sunday before. Joique Bell broke a 33-yard run against the Cardinals in Week 11. This isn't a good matchup for Tre Mason, but his steady workload raises his floor. He has at least 17 touches in seven of his last eight games and totaled a passable 81 all-purpose yards on 18 touches when these clubs met in Week 10. Mason should be viewed as a limited-ceiling RB2 in this matchup

 

[mphtrilogy]

Who's rolling with tre this week?

Thinking about starting him over Ingram.

 

[abbottjamesr]

Starting him over Fred Jackson and Lamar miller. It's close but I like Masons upside better than the other two.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

I'm on the fence. I have Ingram and Gordon and also Julio. I have to use two of them. I hate that Mason plays on Thursday. Without knowing Julio's status, it's a tough call. I don't like the matchup. Arizona is tough. I don't care how good St. Louis D is. Could be a 9-6 game. But with the circus in Cleveland, I may have to roll mason out there.

 

[msudaisy26]

Who's rolling with tre this week?

Thinking about starting him over Ingram.

I have both Ingram and Mason. I am rolling them both out in my flex spots. If I only had one flex spot I would roll Ingram and not think twice about it.

 

[mphtrilogy]

I was gonna possibly flex steve smith over Ingram, but mason on the turf I like that, and he is due for a good game

I'm all in with Gordon so he's in my lineup, or bust.

 

[Crusaderfan]

Starting him over Crowell this week.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

The Cardinals play top-six run defense and limit running backs to 3.77 yards per carry on the season. They're No. 4 inFootball Outsiders' run-defense DVOA. Arizona has given up some big runs lately, however, conceding a 63-yard touchdown to Jamaal Charles in Week 14 and a 55-yarder to Steven Jackson the Sunday before. Joique Bell broke a 33-yard run against the Cardinals in Week 11. This isn't a good matchup for Tre Mason, but his steady workload raises his floor. He has at least 17 touches in seven of his last eight games and totaled a passable 81 all-purpose yards on 18 touches when these clubs met in Week 10. Mason should be viewed as a limited-ceiling RB2 in this matchup

yeah, arizona can be tough against the run, but not impossible.

there have been a decent number of rb that have done alright against them and, as noted, tre had 80 total yards + 4 catches in that previous game, with cunningham vulturing a td.

that previous game was at arizona, and I think the location change could make a big difference.

stl offense was terribly ineffective in that game, which worries me, but it was on the road, and a big drag on tre's production was his limited carries -- he did his damage on only 14 carries, getting 3 in the 3rd qtr, and only 1 in the 4th.

this is what I think can turn around --- at home, stl defense could maybe leverage things in their favor like they did against denver and oakland, getting tre touches late in the game, and pushing his carries up past 20.

The Cardinals play top-six run defense and limit running backs to 3.77 yards per carry on the season. They're No. 4 in Football Outsiders' run-defense DVOA.

denver is ranked 2nd best in the league in that same run defense dvoa metric, while also tied for 2nd best in ypa allowed at 3.5.

tre logged 29 carries against them, due to a game script authored by stl d, for 113 yds.

seattle is just behind denver in 3rd for that same dvoa metric, while allowing the same 3.5 ypa.

tre logged 18 carries for 85/1 that day, which was also a home game.

 

[werdnoynek]

The Cardinals play top-six run defense and limit running backs to 3.77 yards per carry on the season. They're No. 4 inFootball Outsiders' run-defense DVOA. Arizona has given up some big runs lately, however, conceding a 63-yard touchdown to Jamaal Charles in Week 14 and a 55-yarder to Steven Jackson the Sunday before. Joique Bell broke a 33-yard run against the Cardinals in Week 11. This isn't a good matchup for Tre Mason, but his steady workload raises his floor. He has at least 17 touches in seven of his last eight games and totaled a passable 81 all-purpose yards on 18 touches when these clubs met in Week 10. Mason should be viewed as a limited-ceiling RB2 in this matchup

yeah, arizona can be tough against the run, but not impossible.

there have been a decent number of rb that have done alright against them and, as noted, tre had 80 total yards + 4 catches in that previous game, with cunningham vulturing a td.

that previous game was at arizona, and I think the location change could make a big difference.

stl offense was terribly ineffective in that game, which worries me, but it was on the road, and a big drag on tre's production was his limited carries -- he did his damage on only 14 carries, getting 3 in the 3rd qtr, and only 1 in the 4th.

this is what I think can turn around --- at home, stl defense could maybe leverage things in their favor like they did against denver and oakland, getting tre touches late in the game, and pushing his carries up past 20.

The Cardinals play top-six run defense and limit running backs to 3.77 yards per carry on the season. They're No. 4 in Football Outsiders' run-defense DVOA.

denver is ranked 2nd best in the league in that same run defense dvoa metric, while also tied for 2nd best in ypa allowed at 3.5.

tre logged 29 carries against them, due to a game script authored by stl d, for 113 yds.

seattle is just behind denver in 3rd for that same dvoa metric, while allowing the same 3.5 ypa.

tre logged 18 carries for 85/1 that day, which was also a home game.

Who hacked Larry?

I'm trying to find the usual snarky, subjective drivel he brings to threads but it's shockingly absent here.

Please change his password and continue posting. TIA

 

[Soulfly3]

Tre ####s on dvoa metrics

 

[fantasy stud]

Who's rolling with tre this week?

Thinking about starting him over Ingram.

Ingram against Chicago seems too juicy of a matchup. I'm actually more tempted to bench Lacey at buffalo for mason. Probably just rolling with lacey and Ingram .

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

The Cardinals play top-six run defense and limit running backs to 3.77 yards per carry on the season. They're No. 4 inFootball Outsiders' run-defense DVOA. Arizona has given up some big runs lately, however, conceding a 63-yard touchdown to Jamaal Charles in Week 14 and a 55-yarder to Steven Jackson the Sunday before. Joique Bell broke a 33-yard run against the Cardinals in Week 11. This isn't a good matchup for Tre Mason, but his steady workload raises his floor. He has at least 17 touches in seven of his last eight games and totaled a passable 81 all-purpose yards on 18 touches when these clubs met in Week 10. Mason should be viewed as a limited-ceiling RB2 in this matchup

yeah, arizona can be tough against the run, but not impossible.

there have been a decent number of rb that have done alright against them and, as noted, tre had 80 total yards + 4 catches in that previous game, with cunningham vulturing a td.

that previous game was at arizona, and I think the location change could make a big difference.

stl offense was terribly ineffective in that game, which worries me, but it was on the road, and a big drag on tre's production was his limited carries -- he did his damage on only 14 carries, getting 3 in the 3rd qtr, and only 1 in the 4th.

this is what I think can turn around --- at home, stl defense could maybe leverage things in their favor like they did against denver and oakland, getting tre touches late in the game, and pushing his carries up past 20.

The Cardinals play top-six run defense and limit running backs to 3.77 yards per carry on the season. They're No. 4 in Football Outsiders' run-defense DVOA.

denver is ranked 2nd best in the league in that same run defense dvoa metric, while also tied for 2nd best in ypa allowed at 3.5.

tre logged 29 carries against them, due to a game script authored by stl d, for 113 yds.

seattle is just behind denver in 3rd for that same dvoa metric, while allowing the same 3.5 ypa.

tre logged 18 carries for 85/1 that day, which was also a home game.

Who hacked Larry?

I'm trying to find the usual snarky, subjective drivel he brings to threads but it's shockingly absent here.

Please change his password and continue posting. TIA

think I found some

 

[rdrouyn]

I got an even bigger cluster-fk

Mark Ingram, Tre Mason, Latavius Murray, Boom Herron and Jeremy Hill.

Ingram against the Bears is a no brainer. For whatever reason the Bears suck at home.

I should have said that I have to start 3 of these. Starting Ingram for sure, leaning towards Mason for the RB2 spot. No idea who to play in the 3rd spot.

 

[acjohnson83]

I'm rolling w mason over jennings as my rb3.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

A lot of us seem to have a lot of similar options. Here is how I have it right now:

Mason: not crazy about matchup but it's at home on fast track with a buzz saw of defense setting the O up.

Ingram: Saints suck. Do they suck worse than the bears? Timeshare? I'm not crazy about Ingram.

Hill: good luck figuring this mess out.

Murray: I can't trust a raider and this isn't KC on the road in a short week. This is on their turf. No way he repeats that success but he is intriguing.

Do to Julio's up on the air status, I may be forced to flex Mason in.

 

[mphtrilogy]

A lot of us seem to have a lot of similar options. Here is how I have it right now:

Mason: not crazy about matchup but it's at home on fast track with a buzz saw of defense setting the O up.

Ingram: Saints suck. Do they suck worse than the bears? Timeshare? I'm not crazy about Ingram.

Hill: good luck figuring this mess out.

Murray: I can't trust a raider and this isn't KC on the road in a short week. This is on their turf. No way he repeats that success but he is intriguing.

Do to Julio's up on the air status, I may be forced to flex Mason in.

thats why i was thinking this could be a good matchup for mason as well,

short week, home field, turf.. can i sit 3 days knowing he had a good night before the rest of my team gets out there??

 

[zamboni]

A lot of us seem to have a lot of similar options. Here is how I have it right now:

Mason: not crazy about matchup but it's at home on fast track with a buzz saw of defense setting the O up.

Ingram: Saints suck. Do they suck worse than the bears? Timeshare? I'm not crazy about Ingram.

Hill: good luck figuring this mess out.

Murray: I can't trust a raider and this isn't KC on the road in a short week. This is on their turf. No way he repeats that success but he is intriguing.

Do to Julio's up on the air status, I may be forced to flex Mason in.

thats why i was thinking this could be a good matchup for mason as well,

short week, home field, turf.. can i sit 3 days knowing he had a good night before the rest of my team gets out there??

I'm thinking the other way since I've been burned on so many Thursday games. Can I sit 3 days after he has a bad night?

 

[mphtrilogy]

A lot of us seem to have a lot of similar options. Here is how I have it right now:

Mason: not crazy about matchup but it's at home on fast track with a buzz saw of defense setting the O up.

Ingram: Saints suck. Do they suck worse than the bears? Timeshare? I'm not crazy about Ingram.

Hill: good luck figuring this mess out.

Murray: I can't trust a raider and this isn't KC on the road in a short week. This is on their turf. No way he repeats that success but he is intriguing.

Do to Julio's up on the air status, I may be forced to flex Mason in.

thats why i was thinking this could be a good matchup for mason as well,

short week, home field, turf.. can i sit 3 days knowing he had a good night before the rest of my team gets out there??

I'm thinking the other way since I've been burned on so many Thursday games. Can I sit 3 days after he has a bad night?

lol yep. fantasy football at its finest!

when in doubt, i like to go with my gut, but i dont know if my gut is overanalzing this one

the game he had two weeks ago was just amazing, but it was the raiders, but still.... he is capable of kick starting things tonight

 

[Soulfly3]

#SavageMode

 

[greedygoat]

Who's rolling with tre this week?

Thinking about starting him over Ingram.

I'm going with Mason over Ingram as my RB2 this week.

 

[Mozeta]

the game he had two weeks ago was just amazing, but it was the raiders, but still.... he is capable of kick starting things tonight

Not sure I agree. In his one big game vs the Raiders he had 117 rushing yards on 14 carries. He got 76% of all his rushing yards on one busted play. Other than his 89 yard TD run, he only had 28 yards on 13 carries which is good for about a 2.2 YPC average. I know you have to take the big play ability into account, but if the Raiders don't give up that one big play, are we even considering playing Mason this week? I just don't know if I can put my trust in him this week. It seems like fools gold to me.

 

[mphtrilogy]

i cannot discount the 89 yard td run, and he had two other 1 yd runs, to boot. The game got out of hand, so why push him?

 

[PhantomJB]

the game he had two weeks ago was just amazing, but it was the raiders, but still.... he is capable of kick starting things tonight

Not sure I agree. In his one big game vs the Raiders he had 117 rushing yards on 14 carries. He got 76% of all his rushing yards on one busted play. Other than his 89 yard TD run, he only had 28 yards on 13 carries which is good for about a 2.2 YPC average. I know you have to take the big play ability into account, but if the Raiders don't give up that one big play, are we even considering playing Mason this week? I just don't know if I can put my trust in him this week. It seems like fools gold to me.

He's got a 20+ yard carry in 6 of 9 games and two games with a 20+ reception. You definitely need to take the big play ability into account with Mason.

 

[msudaisy26]

Let me start by saying I have no idea if Mason is going to be a stud or not, but can we please quit quoting stats and taking out runs without giving the context of the game? Does anyone realize that 10 of his runs came after halftime? The score was already 38 - 0. Oakland knew what was coming. That might have something to do with only gaining 3 yards on those 10 carries.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Who's rolling with tre this week?

Thinking about starting him over Ingram.

I'm going with Mason over Ingram as my RB2 this week.

Back and forth on this for me. Right now Ingram is in but because I'm such a degenerate, it won't surprise me if I switch to mason just so I can watch him tonight!

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

the game he had two weeks ago was just amazing, but it was the raiders, but still.... he is capable of kick starting things tonight

Not sure I agree. In his one big game vs the Raiders he had 117 rushing yards on 14 carries. He got 76% of all his rushing yards on one busted play. Other than his 89 yard TD run, he only had 28 yards on 13 carries which is good for about a 2.2 YPC average. I know you have to take the big play ability into account, but if the Raiders don't give up that one big play, are we even considering playing Mason this week? I just don't know if I can put my trust in him this week. It seems like fools gold to me.

He's got a 20+ yard carry in 6 of 9 games and two games with a 20+ reception. You definitely need to take the big play ability into account with Mason.

but if you take those plays away how many big plays does he have?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Right now I am sitting Mason in a PPR behind FJax and L. Murray, but that could change 12 times before tonight. I also have r jennings, so I may sit mason tonight knowing it gives me the chance to play Jennings if he is totally healthy before Sunday.

 

[Mozeta]

Let me start by saying I have no idea if Mason is going to be a stud or not, but can we please quit quoting stats and taking out runs without giving the context of the game? Does anyone realize that 10 of his runs came after halftime? The score was already 38 - 0. Oakland knew what was coming. That might have something to do with only gaining 3 yards on those 10 carries.

I do realize this and it's a large reason why I'm not high on Mason this week. I mean, should it matter if the 27th ranked run D knows you are going to be running the ball? I would think you could do better than 10 yards on 3 attempts vs the Raiders if the QB stood up before the snap and told the defense what was coming. I'm also taking into account that in 9 games (8 as the starter) Mason has only scored in 2 games, has only caught more than 1 pass in 2 games, and has only topped 12 fantasy points in 2 games. There are also other RB's on the team who come in and take some 3rd down and goal line work from him.

I think what needs to be put into context is what other options do you have at RB or Flex this week. If Mason was the only option I had, I would probably feel like he had a decent shot of scoring me 10 points this week. If I had other options and felt like I needed more than 10 points, I would probably try to find someone else. I think currently this thread is for people trying to decide if they should play Mason over some other option. Mason had one big game against a bad defense and a bunch of average to below average games against tough defenses. This week he faces another tough defense. If you can live with average to slightly below average points, I think you roll with him. I just don't see the big game upside this week. Week 15 vs the Giants, I'm all over him because I think he has a decent floor with a good upside.

 

[Crusaderfan]

the game he had two weeks ago was just amazing, but it was the raiders, but still.... he is capable of kick starting things tonight

Not sure I agree. In his one big game vs the Raiders he had 117 rushing yards on 14 carries. He got 76% of all his rushing yards on one busted play. Other than his 89 yard TD run, he only had 28 yards on 13 carries which is good for about a 2.2 YPC average. I know you have to take the big play ability into account, but if the Raiders don't give up that one big play, are we even considering playing Mason this week? I just don't know if I can put my trust in him this week. It seems like fools gold to me.

Not that he is Barry Sanders but I seem to remember Sanders having a lot of carries where he either lost yardage or gained a yard or two then bam there he goes for 45yds. Point is I guess - if Mason only had one long TD I would be more liable to discount it. Multiple long TD's suggest its not a fluke. Then again - maybe I'm just trying to rationalize starting him tonight. <_<

 

[Soulfly3]

Why does anyone have to justify starting a CLEAR lead dog, behind an elite o-line, pushing 4.4ypc?

 

[Banger]

I don't know if anyone has looked at his SOS but he's had an absolute murderers row of opponents with I think one cream puff that he destroyed. I think he's run well but he's had to face a number of tough defenses...his stat lines haven't been eye popping but he's running well and hard. Curious to see where he goes next year....

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

the game he had two weeks ago was just amazing, but it was the raiders, but still.... he is capable of kick starting things tonight

Not sure I agree. In his one big game vs the Raiders he had 117 rushing yards on 14 carries. He got 76% of all his rushing yards on one busted play. Other than his 89 yard TD run, he only had 28 yards on 13 carries which is good for about a 2.2 YPC average. I know you have to take the big play ability into account, but if the Raiders don't give up that one big play, are we even considering playing Mason this week? I just don't know if I can put my trust in him this week. It seems like fools gold to me.

he just called you a fool, soulfly

 

[zamboni]

Why does anyone have to justify starting a CLEAR lead dog, behind an elite o-line, pushing 4.4ypc?

If he were heavily involved in the passing game, it would be a no-brainer. But his usage is still game flow dependent and carries some risk.

 

[Soulfly3]

Just keep flashing back to Faulk in preseason basically saying Mason was gonna take this job

He was drooling over him.

Said hes a 25 touch back that gets better as the game goes on.

He called it.

 

[rockaction]

Just keep flashing back to Faulk in preseason basically saying Mason was gonna take this job

He was drooling over him.

Said hes a 25 touch back that gets better as the game goes on.

He called it.

Tre is going to go nuts tonight. I'm in the consolation bracket because of him and Gordon, but damn if I'm not going to enjoy RAW TALENT when I see it. You can have your trophies; I've got a better freaking team.

 

[mr roboto]

Mason is a very promising back. He's the best on the team. His long term potential is huge.

But you don't get points in FF for ypc. YPC is helpful only if the carries per game is high enough to equate to a larger total yardage number.

I don't love him for the rest of this year. I love his potential long term where ypc is more meaningful.

 

[mquinnjr]

From the oddsmakers, who are generally not wildly off on this stuff:

Odds Tre Mason will score a TD tonight

Yes: Pays +180 (1.8/1)

No: Pays -220 (1/2.2)

Rushing Yards Total O/U : 60.5

Receptions O/U: 1.5

Receiving Yards O/U: 12.5

Still starting tonight, and

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

From the oddsmakers, who are generally not wildly off on this stuff:

Odds Tre Mason will score a TD tonight

Yes: Pays +180 (1.8/1)

No: Pays -220 (1/2.2)

Rushing Yards Total O/U : 60.5

Receptions O/U: 1.5

Receiving Yards O/U: 12.5

Still starting tonight, and

Like you, I'm taking those odds.

 

[Archer]

Cardinals have a really good run D don't they? I know its not AC, but wouldn't most bench him for Morris this week (Morris plays weaker Giants D and Helu is out so hopefully more carries and catches?)

 

[playsccr]

Pick 3 rbs

T Mason
J Stewart
Blount
Gore
Chris Johnson
Lamar Miller
Starks

im considering rolling with blount and stewart; sitting mason and hoping starks pans out; if not then rolling with miller.....but is benching mason nuts?

 

[mphtrilogy]

I'm rolling with his talent, playing on the home turf and volume. Hoping he breaks one or two...

 

[PhantomJB]

I'm rolling with his talent, playing on the home turf and volume. Hoping he breaks one or two...

This.

Mason is averaging 3.6 ypc on grass and 5.4 ypc on turf.

 

[Blick]

I hope I don't regret it, but I'm starting Crowell and Hill over Mason.