Trent Green's Tackle... (1 Viewer)

[Bad_Mo]

Did a search and didn't find anything regarding Green's tackle of that lineman and the lineman's reaction to Green.

I saw the play a few times, heard the guy's explanation of why he was still mad at Green, and think the lineman was out of line.

I mean, how many QBs try to tackle a friggin' lineman by hitting them in their mouth or chest (paraphrased)? I give Green the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to get lower on the guy.

The lineman taunting an unconscious Green was pretty weak. You can't tell me that the widebody didn't know Green was out cold.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I think Johnson was justified about being mad at Green. Green's tackle/block whatever was reckless and illegal. It could have ended Johnson's career as well as Green's.

 

[mad sweeney]

Did a search and didn't find anything regarding Green's tackle of that lineman and the lineman's reaction to Green.I saw the play a few times, heard the guy's explanation of why he was still mad at Green, and think the lineman was out of line.I mean, how many QBs try to tackle a friggin' lineman by hitting them in their mouth or chest (paraphrased)? I give Green the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to get lower on the guy.The lineman taunting an unconscious Green was pretty weak. You can't tell me that the widebody didn't know Green was out cold.

Wow, if only this had been discussed earlier

 

[greenf7cat]

I think Johnson was justified about being mad at Green. Green's tackle/block whatever was reckless and illegal. It could have ended Johnson's career as well as Green's.

I could understand Johnson being upset, but it was not an illegal block.... it was completely legal. I am not saying it was the right thing to do from Green's standpoint, but how else do you want a 36 yr old QB to block a 300 DL.

 

[flypro]

I think Johnson was justified about being mad at Green. Green's tackle/block whatever was reckless and illegal. It could have ended Johnson's career as well as Green's.

It may have been reckless but was not illegal.

 

[faux_bear]

the NFL said the tackle was legal.

 

[SigEp316]

has anyone mentioned that it was not illegal

also...you don't know that he was going for the knee, could've been trying for the thigh and missed. who knows?

Trent Green still thinks he's Batman, so it'll be interesting to get his take on it when he gets back to normal.

 

[StraightCash]

It was a block

 

[phthalatemagic]

I think Johnson was justified about being mad at Green. Green's tackle/block whatever was reckless and illegal. It could have ended Johnson's career as well as Green's.

I could understand Johnson being upset, but it was not an illegal block.... it was completely legal. I am not saying it was the right thing to do from Green's standpoint, but how else do you want a 36 yr old QB to block a 300 DL.

Ohhh it was legal? I thought it wasn't. Point taken.I guess if it was legal, then Johnson wasn't justified. (not sarcastic)

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

It was a block

When coaching 7th and 8th graders, I often point this out to them. I have guys on the O-line telling me, "Coach, I want to go in, I'll make that tackle for you!."I'm like, son.....you're a penalty waiting to happen if you go in there and start tackling. The look on their face when I say that is priceless, I let them think about it for awhile and then let them know we block on offense, tackle on defense.

 

[faux_bear]

the NFL said the tackle was legal.

yes yes, block. Some of you just don't let anything slide...

 

[Kirby]

Most of the block was on his left thigh... above the knee. His head is the only thing that hit is right knee.

 

[831hoops]

Most of the block was on his left thigh... above the knee. His head is the only thing that hit is right knee.

I don't think anything hit him in the thigh. The only contact made was the knee to the head. A very poor decision by Green having already had a major concussion. Should be career ending for him.

 

[jafo]

I don't feel bad for Trent Green. Both of those major concussions he could have prevented. He put himself in that situation by doing the type of block that he did, and he got the other one because he waited too long to slide.

 

[Lash]

it ought to be illegal, i dont care what the nfl says

if that play happened 100 times and one of the two was going to sustain a career-ending injury because of it, it would be the lineman 99 times out of 100

i dont blame the guy for being mad at Green, luckily his knee wasn't planted or else we'd have two guys who probably wouldve played their last game

 

[Ghost Rider]

Like defensive players don't look for the quarterback to level when there is a fumble or INT return. And how many times have we seen a defensive player dive at a QB's knee or leg on a pass rush?

The hit by Green was legal.

Travis Johnson is a piece of ####.

 

[shakeybarn]

I think Johnson was justified about being mad at Green. Green's tackle/block whatever was reckless and illegal. It could have ended Johnson's career as well as Green's.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... because QBs practice daily, and have spent their whole careers learning the mechanics of tackling...

 

[greenf7cat]

not to try to make light/be selfish of the situation, but the Chiefs now get a 5th rd pick from Miami instead of a 4th rd pick for Green b/c he will obviously not be playing 70% of the downs this year.

 

[The Goat]

Like defensive players don't look for the quarterback to level when there is a fumble or INT return. And how many times have we seen a defensive player dive at a QB's knee or leg on a pass rush? The hit by Green was legal. Travis Johnson is a piece of ####.

I was going to post a well thought-out reply that would have sounded much like shakeybarn's.This one reflects my true feelings on the matter much better. Karma is a ##### - let's hope it comes back around.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

I dont think Green was doing anything more than hoping to trip Johnson. I doubt very much that he was aiming at his knees just watchign the way he tried to ball up and go down.

 

[mrspree15]

Like defensive players don't look for the quarterback to level when there is a fumble or INT return. And how many times have we seen a defensive player dive at a QB's knee or leg on a pass rush?

What is your point? People call defenders that dive at QB's legs dirty too. Wilfork, Von Oelhoffen, etc. Defensive players and Quarterbacks can both make dirty plays, they aren't mutually exclusive.ETA: Yes I know Green's hit was legal and diving at a QBs legs isn't. Plays can be legal and dirty. Such as when Todd Heap was hurt a few years ago and the Ravens were spiking the ball to stop the clock. Joey Porter pushed Heap down even though he had nothing to do with the play. It's legal, but it's pretty dirty.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Did a search and didn't find anything regarding Green's tackle of that lineman and the lineman's reaction to Green.I saw the play a few times, heard the guy's explanation of why he was still mad at Green, and think the lineman was out of line.I mean, how many QBs try to tackle a friggin' lineman by hitting them in their mouth or chest (paraphrased)? I give Green the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to get lower on the guy.The lineman taunting an unconscious Green was pretty weak. You can't tell me that the widebody didn't know Green was out cold.

Wow, if only this had been discussed earlier

Oh, sorry. Didn't mean to hold a gun to your head and force you to post.

 

[Bad_Mo]

I don't think Green was going at the guy's knee. I really think it is a matter of Green trying to trip the guy up and went at him awkwardly. I agree that QBs are generally no good at tackling anything.

I didn't appreciate the chest pumping/finger pointing from Johnson while Green was lying motionless though. I wonder if Johnson would have changed his tune post-game had Green been paralyzed as a result of that play. He sounded like a D-bag. I especially liked hearing his teammates telling him to shut up.

 

[Challenge Everything]

I think the D-lineman was mad because he was upended by a QB. Trent Green made a good block and allowed the guy with the ball to "attempt" to gain more yards. Unfortunately Green was injured but there was nothing dirty about the play other than the reaction by the D-lineman who was lit up.

 

[Max Power]

Lineman are upset because they have to play nice on franchise QBs during the game, but they are open season.

 

[Hobbes]

News flash! D-Linemen don't like to be chop-blocked...especially when they can't see it coming.

With all of the protection that they give to other players on the field because of a particular injury....like no diving at QB's legs after Palmer's injury...eventually a high-profile D-Lineman will have his career ended (probably in Denver) by a bush-league chop-block and then the NFL will finally ban them...until then expect to see linemen get pissed when it happens to them...

 

[strong]

Nobody likes to be chop blocked but there's a reason it's legal from the front side of the player:

He should see it coming.

It's not Green's fault Johnson wasn't looking where he was going...

And chop blocks from the front rarely result in injuries. It's the ones from the side or the back that often cause damage.

Completely legal play. Not dirty at all. Johnson's reaction was way out of line.

 

[NeverEnough]

Travis Johnson is a piece of ####.

 

[jabarony]

I think the D-lineman was mad because he was upended by a QB. Trent Green made a good block and allowed the guy with the ball to "attempt" to gain more yards. Unfortunately Green was injured but there was nothing dirty about the play other than the reaction by the D-lineman who was lit up.

No doubt.1. He's bent a QB flipped him.2. He's a punk for taunting a guy out on the carpet.3. Green had no chance of blocking him high. He may have been in worse shape.4. Players go low all the time. RBs on blitzing LBs, Corners on big TEs & RBs, Denver. As if Green was the first guy ever. All of a sudden it's dirty?

 

[831hoops]

I think the D-lineman was mad because he was upended by a QB. Trent Green made a good block and allowed the guy with the ball to "attempt" to gain more yards. Unfortunately Green was injured but there was nothing dirty about the play other than the reaction by the D-lineman who was lit up.

No doubt.1. He's bent a QB flipped him.

2. He's a punk for taunting a guy out on the carpet.

3. Green had no chance of blocking him high. He may have been in worse shape.

4. Players go low all the time. RBs on blitzing LBs, Corners on big TEs & RBs, Denver. As if Green was the first guy ever. All of a sudden it's dirty?

How could he have possibly been in worse shape. He went low and lead with his helmet. The worst he gets going high is the DT blows him up (not likely as he never saw Green) and Green lands on his butt 5 yards away. I am sure Green would take that and whatever injury that came with it at this point.