chiefs2929
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Trent Richardson is a top 5 back every week for the next 5 years barring injury. Those who do not believe so do not own him.
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
And those who believe it do own him.So in one league I'm in I believe he's a top 5 back, in the other I do not.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Surprised no chatter on trich status vs indy. Roto world trying to create some drama with their "status unknown" headlines but im reading more positive cues elsewhere.
LivingTheDream
Footballguy
He practiced today.
Clifford
Footballguy
Make up your mind scrumpy.And those who believe it do own him.So in one league I'm in I believe he's a top 5 back, in the other I do not.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
he needs to mega play against Indy this week.
Clifford
Footballguy
Sounds like he mega will:
Trent Richardson - RB - Browns
Trent Richardson (ribs) says he's pain-free, and expects to play against the Colts.
Richardson suited up for Wednesday's practice, but the Browns have yet to reveal his participation level. "In my mind I'm ready for Sunday," Richardson said. "I'll be ready to play whole game." Richardson plans to wear a flak jacket or extra padding, but it sounds like only a setback will hold him out at this point. Even at less than 100 percent, he'll be an RB1 against the Colts' leaky run defense.
Trent Richardson - RB - Browns
Trent Richardson (ribs) says he's pain-free, and expects to play against the Colts.
Richardson suited up for Wednesday's practice, but the Browns have yet to reveal his participation level. "In my mind I'm ready for Sunday," Richardson said. "I'll be ready to play whole game." Richardson plans to wear a flak jacket or extra padding, but it sounds like only a setback will hold him out at this point. Even at less than 100 percent, he'll be an RB1 against the Colts' leaky run defense.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Thanks!
FUBAR
Footballguy
S T U D
Brycestrahorn
Footballguy
gotta like to hear this early in the week
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Good news. Richardson proving himself a gamer.
LivingTheDream
Footballguy
Yea, what a gamer...SOFT
Nucker101
Footballguy
Should have just sat out, seems like every player in the NFL this year is coming back sooner than expected from injuries. Besides Jennings and Garcon.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
LivingTheDream
Footballguy
Yea, he has 4 fantasy points the last 2 weeks.
ponchsox
Footballguy
I'm concerned about his health going forward.
LivingTheDream
Footballguy
Me too...Doesn't seem like he plays well nicked up.
Banger
Footballguy
he didn't play, what's to say?
EBF
Footballguy
The guy is an awesome talent. Maybe my favorite player in the league to watch play.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLmm6uPLNpIInjuries are really the only thing that can slow him down. Cleveland should have let him sit this one out so he could get back to 100%.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
he megadidn't
GreenNGold
Footballguy
8 carries for 8 yards isn't playing? Why do injuries against TRich not count, but when talking about every other back in the league they do? Besides that, YTD he is averaging a very mediocre 3.3 YPC and most of his TD's where the result of opportune turnovers by the Cleveland defense, which we all know should not be expected as the norm. Breaking News: Trent "I love getting stuffed" Richardson just signed an endorsement deal with Pizza Hut to promote their stuffed crust pizza.
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devouredbychaos
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Almost regret trading for him now, ugh.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I feel the same about Richardson as EBF. Very good player that makes me really excited about watching football. I have become a fan of the Browns for the 1st time since the 80's.
It looks like Richardson was still injured and maybe shouldn't have played. Despite that I admire his toughness and desire to play.
It looks like Richardson was still injured and maybe shouldn't have played. Despite that I admire his toughness and desire to play.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
There's a thread on the first page or two entitled "what happened to the Shark Pool?"
The answer is ****ty and inconsistent moderation. The fact that an obvious, horrible troll like GreenNGold isn't banned or even warned for his "contributions" is a giant blinking ****ing neon sign pointing to the issues in the Shark Pool. A symptom of a serious issue that is killing the value of this place.
And it's 100% fixable. The desire and give-a-#### just don't seem to be there.
The answer is ****ty and inconsistent moderation. The fact that an obvious, horrible troll like GreenNGold isn't banned or even warned for his "contributions" is a giant blinking ****ing neon sign pointing to the issues in the Shark Pool. A symptom of a serious issue that is killing the value of this place.
And it's 100% fixable. The desire and give-a-#### just don't seem to be there.
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Holy hell, slow your roll. As far as I can tell, GreenNGold has one post in this thread. He pointed out that Richardson has a pathetic 3.3 ypc, which is a fact. He asked why Richardson gets a complete pass for stinking while injured when no other players do, which is a good question. He claims that Richardson's scores have been inordinately aided by opportune takeaways, which is a very interesting claim. As far as I can tell, he's brought the closest thing to analysis on a page where some people are just claiming we should pretend Richardson never saw the field. What, you're freaking out because he made the Pizza Hut joke? Have you ever ventured into any thread pertaining to a currently struggling player before? That's pretty much par for the course. I fail to see how that constitutes trolling, unless you're Mr. Richardson or one of his immediate relatives. We got some people way too emotionally invested in Trent Richardson here right now.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Check the front page. There's an entire Richardson thread also started by him.Link: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=651204
The only time he's really posted this season, has been when Richardson has struggled. He's a clear and obvious troll, and I used him as an example of a larger problem.
Love your contributions here man. But get the full context before you jump.
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Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
GreenNGold
Footballguy
The only time I get called a troll, is when people like you run out of facts in your TRich pipe dream. If you want to debate, let's debate. Yet, you need to resort to name calling as soon as you are in the wrong. Debate some of the facts I have posted in this thread (or my other thread if you want to take the debate there -- although I agree I was overly harsh in a few posts there and won't repeat those mistakes). But stop the name calling and let's stick to the facts. Or should I call you a troll? When TRich is compared to Reggie Bush the first thing every TRich fanboy brings up is Reggie Bush's injury. Why should this be any different? As of right now, Reggie Bush is the proven and better back. Yes, that could change, but it hasn't yet.
I'd love to live in a fantasy land where I could get everyone banned I disagree with. Welcome to reality son.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I have no desire to "debate" you. You pop up when he struggles and disappear for the most part when he succeeds. It's very obvious. I linked your thread chronicling this behavior. I'm not putting you on ignore, so if it makes you feel better your "facts" and "stats" and your mad debate skillz are being read and considered. I just have no desire to actually engage you in discussion, because its pointless.
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GreenNGold
Footballguy
I agree it is pointless, other than that when he has done good I have acknowledged the other side's points, and any time I say anything even slightly adverse I have been called a troll. Good day.
Banger
Footballguy
Just go away...seriously. Less trolls the better.
If that makes him a troll, then is everyone who pops up when he succeeds but disappears when he struggles also a troll?Look, the guy might be a huge anti-fanboy, but that's not substantively different than being a huge fanboy, and it provides some much-needed balance given FBGs over-the-top love affair with him (people were telling me I was crazy earlier in this thread for not trading Ray Rice for Richardson, as if such an opinion were simply incomprehensible). And I have yet to see anyone engage with his major points yet- the 3.3 ypc, the fluky TD totals, the nagging injuries. I think he's wrong and agree that Rich is a talent, but think his supporters need a healthy dose of perspective if they're all so certain he's the next Adrian Peterson and not the next Steven Jackson.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Lets get back on topic here and discuss Trent's health. According to Shurmur, he didn't have any setbacks but it's obvious TRich isn't 100%. Does he play through it or should they rest him a week or two? I'm sure there are some fantasy teams who need him to produce now and others who are hoping he is healthy come playoff time.
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
Trent Richardson told reporters following Sunday's loss that his rib cartilage injury is worse than people think.
"The injury I have is much bigger than what folks think it is, and I don’t want to do anything to hurt the team," said Richardson, who conceded coach Pat Shurmur did the "smart" thing by benching him at halftime against the Colts. "I’m not myself out there right now. You look at me, I guess I’m not running hard like I’m used to, so I’m not out there right now. So it is worse than what people think it is." Shurmur insisted Richardson emerged from Sunday's loss "no worse for wear."
Maybe he just needs to take the next week off to get healthy?
"The injury I have is much bigger than what folks think it is, and I don’t want to do anything to hurt the team," said Richardson, who conceded coach Pat Shurmur did the "smart" thing by benching him at halftime against the Colts. "I’m not myself out there right now. You look at me, I guess I’m not running hard like I’m used to, so I’m not out there right now. So it is worse than what people think it is." Shurmur insisted Richardson emerged from Sunday's loss "no worse for wear."
Maybe he just needs to take the next week off to get healthy?
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VA703
Footballguy
why did he even play if its worse than we think he probably set himself back further by stressing it
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
well its early in his career, and it looks at this stage like he might be a guy you want to sit if he has a decent injury. Since this injury kept him on the sideliens lastw eek, and hardesty looked good, was not a suprise to see him on the sidelines again. he did get a crack at the TD on the goalline but could not punch it in, seemed a tad hesitant, I think that spelled it over for him for the half for Shurmur.
I still like the guy, but will need a clean bill of health for the next start...
I still like the guy, but will need a clean bill of health for the next start...
I was with you until I got here. Are you talking about health vs. injury? Good situation vs. bad situation? To me, there is very little difference between ADP and SJax other than situation. Obviously, SJax is the better receiver and Peterson probably had a bit more top end speed, but from an overall talent standpoint I see them as equal. And FWIW, I think it is way too early to put Richardson in the same conversation as those two. At this point, if I had to lean one way or another, I'd say he's not their caliber. But I wouldn't rule it out. I expected him to struggle this year on this team. If this team can take some steps in the right direction, I think he could be top 5 in a year or two. But given the poor surrounding cast, it is very hard to tell how good he is.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
I really hope so too!
I was referring to situation. People assume that super-talented backs are guaranteed a Peterson-like career. Sometimes, instead, they get a Stephen Jackson career. Even if Richardson's fans are right and he's the most talented RB in the league, if the Browns don't improve, that might not mean anything more than a string of low-end rb1, high-end rb2 seasons. Certainly a great career, but not nearly what his supporters are hoping for. Richardson has a lot more downside than some people are admitting right now.
Clifford
Footballguy
You're not a troll because of your opinions. You're a troll because you can't discuss them without being a condescending ****.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
GreenNGold
Footballguy
Can say exactly the same for each of you. +1Would you like to discuss something relevant like his 3.3 YPC or just keep calling me names?
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
That's not very open minded.
Clifford
Footballguy
I'll talk all day about the disappointing two weeks with anyone else. It sucks that he got hurt. It sucks that he played hurt when he probably should have sat. I think either way he takes a little heat, but I give him credit for A) gutting it out and trying to play and B) being cool with being benched because he realized it was hurting his team. I was not expecting a big day and sat him in one league and played him ahead of Steve Smith on the other. Honestly he might have his season derailed by this. I don't think Shurmur is very much behind anything that won't present immediate results given that he is playing for his job for the rest of the season.
Trent should sit out next week and get healthy and try to have a strong second half. Obviously he should have done that this past week and it hurt him as far as performance. Shurmur gets credit for recognizing it wasn't working and pulling him. He probably wasn't going to play his way out of it.
We'll see what happens. He had 1 disappointing week, 4 good weeks, and two more disappointing weeks due to injury. Don't know what else there is to say other than he didn't play well when trying to play through an injury.
well, so much for sitting out:
Trent Richardson - RB - Browns
Coach Pat Shurmur confirmed Monday that the Browns will prepare Trent Richardson (ribs) to play in Week 8 against the Chargers.
Shurmur said the Browns will get Richardson ready to play each week moving forward, and see how his ribs feel from there. Richardson ran tentatively Sunday and was benched at halftime for ineffectiveness stemming from the injury. Richardson is going to be tough to bench in fantasy leagues going forward, but there will obviously be risk involved. He may not be 100 percent for a few more weeks.
Coach needs to realize that Trent will tough it out and play whether it's good for him or not. He needs to make him sit next week. This is a third overall pick we're talking about here.
Trent should sit out next week and get healthy and try to have a strong second half. Obviously he should have done that this past week and it hurt him as far as performance. Shurmur gets credit for recognizing it wasn't working and pulling him. He probably wasn't going to play his way out of it.
We'll see what happens. He had 1 disappointing week, 4 good weeks, and two more disappointing weeks due to injury. Don't know what else there is to say other than he didn't play well when trying to play through an injury.
well, so much for sitting out:
Trent Richardson - RB - Browns
Coach Pat Shurmur confirmed Monday that the Browns will prepare Trent Richardson (ribs) to play in Week 8 against the Chargers.
Shurmur said the Browns will get Richardson ready to play each week moving forward, and see how his ribs feel from there. Richardson ran tentatively Sunday and was benched at halftime for ineffectiveness stemming from the injury. Richardson is going to be tough to bench in fantasy leagues going forward, but there will obviously be risk involved. He may not be 100 percent for a few more weeks.
Coach needs to realize that Trent will tough it out and play whether it's good for him or not. He needs to make him sit next week. This is a third overall pick we're talking about here.
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ponchsox
Footballguy
I really wish they would just shut him down for a week.
Coach Pat Shurmur confirmed Monday that the Browns will prepare Trent Richardson (ribs) to play in Week 8 against the Chargers.
Shurmur said the Browns will get Richardson ready to play each week moving forward, and see how his ribs feel from there. Richardson ran tentatively Sunday and was benched at halftime for ineffectiveness stemming from the injury. Richardson is going to be tough to bench in fantasy leagues going forward, but there will obviously be risk involved. He may not be 100 percent for a few more weeks.
Coach Pat Shurmur confirmed Monday that the Browns will prepare Trent Richardson (ribs) to play in Week 8 against the Chargers.
Shurmur said the Browns will get Richardson ready to play each week moving forward, and see how his ribs feel from there. Richardson ran tentatively Sunday and was benched at halftime for ineffectiveness stemming from the injury. Richardson is going to be tough to bench in fantasy leagues going forward, but there will obviously be risk involved. He may not be 100 percent for a few more weeks.
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