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True Detective: Tom went in to listen to the Cardinals game...in November. Mmmmmhmmmm... (2 Viewers)

I think the Russians(potential investors with/for VV) are behind the Casper death & Vacaro's shooting. Of course I'm most likely wrong.

 
So I'm guessing the bird mask supposed to indicate some sort of connection with the bad guys in season 1 (the Main guys in the snuff video that MM found in the senator's safe were wearing animal masks)

An overarching story line with the bigger conspiracy of the yellow King cult seems like the only way to save this thing now.
Doubt it. The bird mask was taken off the wall it seems. There's some weird sex cult thing going on like eyes wide shut, but no yellow king.
 
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The story just isn't that compelling nor is the acting. It's better than most stuff out there, but I was pretty bored most of the episode. Even after the surprise ending, I'm not sitting here in anticipation of the next episode. Big difference from last year.

 
Between Vaughn's acting and 45% of the showing being helicopter shots of freeways, I spent half the episode wondering what's going to happen on the Bachelorette tomorrow night and went to bed early. In scrolling here I just saw something about a main character dying. I can only hope it's Vaughn. If they kill him off, and re shoot the entire show, maybe it stands a chance of being good.

So far this is pretty bad.
Big date with the motorcycle cop today?

 
Either the dialogue is worse this year or the acting isn't as good. MM pulled off all those crazy lines, this season not so much.
MM's acting was miles ahead, but you also had Woody to provide comic relief and call BS on MM's most ridiculous lines. This season is so much more serious.
 
Also, I like the pulpiness of this iteration of the show. I didn't see the first season, so I don't know about the serious expectations going into the second season, but this seems to be a quality show that's at least worth a watch.
I thibk what people miss is the relationship between MM and WH. They were a great duo. There was a lot of funny moments and despite being deeply flawed, they were likable. Ultimately, S1 wasn't about the investigation, it was about the relationship between the detectives. This season, none of the characters have redeeming qualities or very interesting relationships. I like it a lot, but it's so different (darker and S1 was really dark) than S1 that it's turning people off.
 
This season feels very unfocused to me. Last year the show focused primarily on MM in the beginning and then delved into other characters as the show progressed. This season the first episode felt like they were rushing to set up the story with lots of moving parts, somewhat tough to follow. Then after the set up of episode 1, they eliminate one of the main characters. WTF? Why not just tell his story as a flashback as the other detectives investigate the case?

I am also growing tired of the dramatic music behind the scenes of freeways. Feels like forced drama.

 
everybody knew this was going to be a step down this season.

There's nothing else out there I'd rather watch on Sundays. :shrug:

 
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I just wish Vaughn’s opening “Discourse on Basement Daddy” would have gone another 6 minutes. It was like watching Bob Saget hump the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral. Actually, it was worse than that.

 
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I just wish Vaughn’s opening “Discourse on Basement Daddy” would have gone another 6 minutes. It was like watching Bob Saget hump the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral. Actually, it was worse than that.
That scene was rough, I wonder if that should've been moved towards near the end of the episode, when Semyon finds out he's really ####ed and in a corner. It was almost like he foretold the bottom dropping out.

The "Am I diminished?" line was brutal, although that falls on the writer. Otherwise, Vaughn's acting is not a speed bump for me.

Rude, I need mod powers solely to deal with these clowns who can't differentiate between the actors and the characters they play. I promise I will wield my sword for the power of good and I won't let MOP hold it, no matter how many times he asks.

 
If he survives a DB shotgun blast to the torso from 2 feet away - after the first hit - I'm not watching this show anymore.
Loaded with rock salt.
Pretty sure I nailed this.
So stolen from Kill Bill? Or is this rock salt in shotgun shells a normal thing?
Can be fairly normal.
Here's a neat test of it! http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-33-rock-salt-in-a-shotgun/

I've heard of it to scare birds on the farm...stuff like that.

 
If he survives a DB shotgun blast to the torso from 2 feet away - after the first hit - I'm not watching this show anymore.
Loaded with rock salt.
Pretty sure I nailed this.
So stolen from Kill Bill? Or is this rock salt in shotgun shells a normal thing?
I've heard of it before.

Check it out. http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-33-rock-salt-in-a-shotgun/

 
Shotguns can also be loaded with non-lethal beanbags. Not sure why the shooter would do that, but it's a possibility.

 
So I'm guessing the bird mask supposed to indicate some sort of connection with the bad guys in season 1 (the Main guys in the snuff video that MM found in the senator's safe were wearing animal masks)

An overarching story line with the bigger conspiracy of the yellow King cult seems like the only way to save this thing now.
:goodposting: I was a little unsure of a 2nd season that was completely unrelated to the 1st. This would make sense.
I hate both of you.

 
"Hey wait when does Woody from Cheers show up."

-Half of you, at least.
"They should have got Owen Wilson to play moto-homo"
Or like, anybody else. He's kind of brutal. I don't think VV is that bad, just that since he usually does deadpan type delivery in comic roles it's kind of hard to take him seriously. He's miscast is all. Tim Riggins looks deader than Bernie, in that weekend thing.

 
For how long are we gonna watch a show on the basis of the actors who did the prior version of the show being good?

I guess I'll finish the DVR to watch someone get blown away, maybe I'll watch another week, but unless they make some magic, IM OUT.

 
For how long are we gonna watch a show on the basis of the actors who did the prior version of the show being good?

I guess I'll finish the DVR to watch someone get blown away, maybe I'll watch another week, but unless they make some magic, IM OUT.
My guess is about 6 more weeks. This isn't a 30 episode cartoon show on the CW network. It's HBO and it's 8 episodes. It could suck, but I'm seeing this one through.

 
I thought Gone With The Wind was amazing, so I can't wait to watch Gone in Sixty Seconds.

Cage was pretty good in this I thought.

 

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