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Trump's Cabinet and Advisors (1 Viewer)

Disgusting behavior from these liberals during AG Sessions opening statements.
Isn't it great how Trump has brought out all these lovely adjectives and inserted them into political discourse?  "Disgusting", "horrible", "terrible", "the worst",...the list goes on and on.  But I suppose if I had to choose any of them, "disgusting" would be my favorite Trumpian adjective to describe things in politics.  It just elicits a reaction that some of the other words don't.  

Trump really does have all the best words.

 
Disgusting behavior from these liberals during AG Sessions opening statements.
Sessions is an all-world ##### who has no business anywhere near AG. Maybe the most repulsive of all the repulsive nominees. Though that's a tough mantle.

Yes, let us put more Americans in these way over-crowded for-profit prisons. Such a ####### inbred meathead.

 
There was a pretty in-depth article a while back on Kushner that revealed how he is basically to be credited with Trump's win. He was instrumental in alot of social media micro targeting of voters. He's basically Donald's right hand man.
The history between Kushner's dad and Chris Christie is really interesting.

 
Sessions is an all-world ##### who has no business anywhere near AG. Maybe the most repulsive of all the repulsive nominees. Though that's a tough mantle.

Yes, let us put more Americans in these way over-crowded for-profit prisons. Such a ####### inbred meathead.
Add in the talk about using inmates to help build the wall. Business will be booming soon.

 
There are real issues to discuss about our future President. He may or may not approve the repeal of Obamacare without a replacement. He may or may not create tarrifs against Mexico, and possibly hurt commerce in California and Texas with an  (IMO) unnecessary wall. He may or may not walk away from the Iran deal and threaten our trade relationship with China. 

Whatever your position is on these issues they are all very important and affect real people. Why are we wasting our time on who he hires? Let him hire his 10 year old son to run our cyber system. I don't care. Let's move on to the issues that matter. 
Because who the chief executive hires does matter.  The first task of governance is hiring the people who will govern.  This is the clearest window we have into what a President Trump will value.  And it shows a pattern of hiring people who either:  1) seem to have contempt for the role of government;  2) seem to be aligned with people who can uniquely benefit from government favor; or 3) are a little bit of both. 

 
I think his cabinet choices should be confirmed, barring any disqualifying findings in testimony or investigations.  Ethics approval should be allowed to conclude before confirmation.  I may not like many or all of his choices, but he won and this is what happens when you win.  But winning doesn't mean you circumvent the rules or laws.  Respect the laws and the approval process and get your crew in there, at least all of them who can pass muster within the rules and laws.

 
There was a pretty in-depth article a while back on Kushner that revealed how he is basically to be credited with Trump's win. He was instrumental in alot of social media micro targeting of voters. He's basically Donald's right hand man.
From a smarts pov, I'm okay with him coming aboard. I don't know where he stands on things but intelligence in this administration is a welcomed addition. 

 
Because who the chief executive hires does matter.  The first task of governance is hiring the people who will govern.  This is the clearest window we have into what a President Trump will value.  And it shows a pattern of hiring people who either:  1) seem to have contempt for the role of government;  2) seem to be aligned with people who can uniquely benefit from government favor; or 3) are a little bit of both. 
But not to worry, Trump will hire the best people. With his short fingers.

 
I was pulled away a couple times, but i don't recall hearing anything about Sessions's opinions on marijuana legalization.

 
Sorry if I missed it if this has been posted:

Booker to testify against fellow senator Sessions in unprecedented move

Washington (CNN)Democratic Sen. Cory Booker is set to testify against Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions Wednesday in an unprecedented move during his attorney general confirmation.

This would be the first time in Senate history that a sitting senator will testify against another sitting senator for a Cabinet post during a confirmation.

"I do not take lightly the decision to testify against a Senate colleague," Booker said. "But the immense powers of the attorney general combined with the deeply troubling views of this nominee is a call to conscience."

 
Gotta love these protesters......not sure how they think these obnoxious actions change anything in a positive way.  :no:

 
From a smarts pov, I'm okay with him coming aboard. I don't know where he stands on things but intelligence in this administration is a welcomed addition. 
Uh, no.

Kushner was too stupid to read the New York Observer, which he owned.

He was also too stupid to get into an Ivy League school on his own (his crook dad bought him admission to Harvard with a $2.5 million donation) and the Observer folded its print edition under his watch.

I read the fawning piece about Kushner and the election.  The strategy was basically "campaign in states where we're close and there's lots of white people."  If that's what it takes to become a brilliant campaign strategist, the majority of the posters here during the election run up showed themselves to be qualified.

 
Uh, no.

Kushner was too stupid to read the New York Observer, which he owned.

He was also too stupid to get into an Ivy League school on his own (his crook dad bought him admission to Harvard with a $2.5 million donation) and the Observer folded its print edition under his watch.

I read the fawning piece about Kushner and the election.  The strategy was basically "campaign in states where we're close and there's lots of white people."  If that's what it takes to become a brilliant campaign strategist, the majority of the posters here during the election run up showed themselves to be qualified.
This was sort of a controversial electoral position among almost everybody smart in the aughts. 

Sean Trende was the first to write about this phenomenon, and was right. 

This was much more difficult to get through the ranks than you're making it out to be -- again, as an electoral strategy.  

 
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This was sort of a controversial electoral position among almost everybody smart in the aughts. 

Sean Trende was the first to write about this phenomenon, and was right. 

This was much more difficult than you're making it out to be.  
Not with Trump.  It was clear from the primaries and the polling that he has a special appeal to white people. He didn't really even have the option to do otherwise.  So the strategy is obvious- if you need to pick off a handful of states Obama won, start with the whitest ones.  I was saying for weeks before the election that the path to victory for Trump ran through an upset or two in the whitest areas of the rust belt, and that such a thing seemed very possible.  And I'm no campaign strategist.  

Anyway, the guys an idiot regardless.  Read the link and the tweets following it.  And he has zero knowledge of federal government/public service.  Skill at reading a map, demographics and polling data doesn't really make that less true.

 
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Trump asked anti-vaxxer RFK Jr to head up a commission on vaccine safety.  Link

Make America Get Polio and Smallpox Again.
As we all know, Trump is an anti vaxxer himself:  https://twitter.com/markberman/status/818901421617741824

And we also know maybe 20%ish of Americans believe everything that comes out of Trump's pie hole, even when it's contradicted by experts and facts.   So yeah, your 2nd sentence...probably not wrong.  :(

 
Not with Trump.  It was clear from the primaries and the polling that he has a special appeal to white people.  So the strategy is obvious- if you need to pick off a handful of states Obama won, start with the whitest ones.  I was saying for weeks before the election that the path to victory for Trump ran through an upset or two in the whitest areas of the rust belt, and that such a thing seemed very possible.  And I'm no campaign strategist.  

Anyway, the guys an idiot regardless.  Read the link and the tweets following it.  And he has zero knowledge of federal government/public service.  Skill at reading a map, demographics and polling data doesn't really make that less true.
Yeah, I'm not debating your take on the cabinet appointee, but the shibboleth in the aughts was that Republicans needed to "pick off" "minority" voters to win a presidential election. 

Trende changed that with his articles for RCP, among others.  

 
Not with Trump.  It was clear from the primaries and the polling that he has a special appeal to white people.  So the strategy is obvious- if you need to pick off a handful of states Obama won, start with the whitest ones.  I was saying for weeks before the election that the path to victory for Trump ran through an upset or two in the whitest areas of the rust belt, and that such a thing seemed very possible.  And I'm no campaign strategist.  

Anyway, the guys an idiot regardless.  Read the link and the tweets following it.  And he has zero knowledge of federal government/public service.  Skill at reading a map, demographics and polling data doesn't really make that less true.
He did micro-target them much better with radio and Sinclair broadcasting and was smart enough to know Bretbart should be used.  Much like Trump though, his business acumen isn't legendary (for instance, he's had to bring that Chinese company in for 666 5th Ave).  

 
He was also too stupid to get into an Ivy League school on his own (his crook dad bought him admission to Harvard with a $2.5 million donation) 
The prep school he went to is on record saying they were stunned he got into Harvard because he was such a lousy student.

Crook dad also bought admission into grad school at NYU for a similar price he paid Harvard.  Kushner's education cost his family at least $6MM.  

 
Passively watching the Sessions confirmation hearing... a lot of the questions from the blue side are really questions they want Trump to answer.  Multiple times Sessions has been asked about stuff Trump has been accused of doing and whether Sessions would be willing to prosecute a President who did those things.  

For example, Leahy just got done asking Sessions "Do you think grabbing a woman by her genitals is sexual assault?"

 
Passively watching the Sessions confirmation hearing... a lot of the questions from the blue side are really questions they want Trump to answer.  Multiple times Sessions has been asked about stuff Trump has been accused of doing and whether Sessions would be willing to prosecute a President who did those things.  

For example, Leahy just got done asking Sessions "Do you think grabbing a woman by her genitals is sexual assault?"
I'm a #NeverTrumper but Leahy is a hardball politico. No surprise there. He'll bury you if you cross him. VT Dems can get nasty. Could have used some of him in Bernie.  

 
"The Constitution says we shall not establish a religion — Congress shall not establish a religion. It doesn’t say states couldn’t establish a religion."
-Jeff Sessions
Senate speech, March 10, 2016

 
Looks like some of Hillary's presumptive cabinet picks were also kind of depressing.  It's hard to make fun of Trump for picking the guy who ran Carl's Jr. to run the Department of Labor when Hillary's pick was going to be the guy who runs Starbucks.  And no Cheryl Sandberg at least means no "lean in" to the cabinet jokes.

 
"The Constitution says we shall not establish a religion — Congress shall not establish a religion. It doesn’t say states couldn’t establish a religion."
-Jeff Sessions
Senate speech, March 10, 2016
That's accurate. It's called incorporation.

 
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Looks like some of Hillary's presumptive cabinet picks were also kind of depressing.  It's hard to make fun of Trump for picking the guy who ran Carl's Jr. to run the Department of Labor when Hillary's pick was going to be the guy who runs Starbucks.  And no Cheryl Sandberg at least means no "lean in" to the cabinet jokes.
I don't see why it matters who Hillary was going to pick. She's not going to be President. Trump is.

If Hillary had won, and she appointed an anti-vaxxer to head a commission on vaccines, I would have complained. If Hillary had won and appointed a candidate for AG with a questionable race and abortion history who wants to outlaw marijuana, I would have complained. 

I could go on, but you get the point. If Trump makes ####ty appointments, we should complain. Regardless of what Hillary may have done.

 
"The Constitution says we shall not establish a religion — Congress shall not establish a religion. It doesn’t say states couldn’t establish a religion."
-Jeff Sessions
Senate speech, March 10, 2016
  Most of the original states actually did have state established religions at the time of ratification.  The Establishment Clause was incorporated against the states in 1947, but that is a decision that has attracted a lot of scholarly disagreement.  So Sessions is wrong, but maybe less wrong than he appears. 

 
I don't see why it matters who Hillary was going to pick. She's not going to be President. Trump is.

If Hillary had won, and she appointed an anti-vaxxer to head a commission on vaccines, I would have complained. If Hillary had won and appointed a candidate for AG with a questionable race and abortion history who wants to outlaw marijuana, I would have complained. 

I could go on, but you get the point. If Trump makes ####ty appointments, we should complain. Regardless of what Hillary may have done.
Don't believe I told you not to complain.  Jeff Sessions is going to be AG.  Complain away. 

I just read a Slate article about Hillary's picks.  Even as someone who thinks the progressive wing held Hillary to an unfair standard, they were kind of depressing. 

 
I've been watching this Sessions confirmation hearing.  It's basically a bunch of old white guys asking another old white guy questions about stuff they were right there with him to see.  At one point I thought Sen Hatch was gonna offer him a hand job in exchange for his testimony. 

 
I've been watching this Sessions confirmation hearing.  It's basically a bunch of old white guys asking another old white guy questions about stuff they were right there with him to see.  At one point I thought Sen Hatch was gonna offer him a hand job in exchange for his testimony. 
There have been a couple rounds as probing and challenging as Chris Farley's old talk show on SNL: "Remember when we were in the Senate together?  Remember that?  That was AWESOME."

 
Looks like some of Hillary's presumptive cabinet picks were also kind of depressing.  It's hard to make fun of Trump for picking the guy who ran Carl's Jr. to run the Department of Labor when Hillary's pick was going to be the guy who runs Starbucks.  
Not to nit pick, but there are some drastic differences on the surface.  From what I know of Starbucks, they treat their employees pretty well (full benes, tuition reimbursement, 401K, stock options, etc.).  The guy from Carl's jr. wants more automation and less humans to employee.

 
Not to nit pick, but there are some drastic differences on the surface.  From what I know of Starbucks, they treat their employees pretty well (full benes, tuition reimbursement, 401K, stock options, etc.).  The guy from Carl's jr. wants more automation and less humans to employee.
Schultz is famous for offering his workers health insurance benefits even at 20 hours a week.  He's also famous for bitterly fighting any attempts to unionize.  For instance, he broke the local baristas union in Seattle demanding health insurance in 1987.  Some years later, he had an epiphany that offering such benefits would decrease turnover, so he initiated it.  Schultz generally seems OK with some progressive policies toward workers if he's determined that it makes business sense.  He's been historically more hostile to them if they are demanded in collective bargaining. 

 
Argument in favor of a return to the generic catch-all threads about candidates and presidents:

We need a place to make jokes about the new report that Trump's inauguration will have a "soft sensuality" to it.  

Link

 
The prep school he went to is on record saying they were stunned he got into Harvard because he was such a lousy student.

Crook dad also bought admission into grad school at NYU for a similar price he paid Harvard.  Kushner's education cost his family at least $6MM.  
Horrible nepotism.  #### these Ivy League schools for sacrificing their standards.

 
Argument in favor of a return to the generic catch-all threads about candidates and presidents:

We need a place to make jokes about the new report that Trump's inauguration will have a "soft sensuality" to it.  

Link
This isn't getting retweeted on Twitter, so I'll aim it for the cheap seats here:

ROBERTS:  ... that I will faithfully execute

TRUMP:  ... Baby, all through the night, I'll make love to you ...

 

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