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Trump's Cabinet and Advisors (1 Viewer)

Argument in favor of a return to the generic catch-all threads about candidates and presidents:

We need a place to make jokes about the new report that Trump's inauguration will have a "soft sensuality" to it.  

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There are dozens of excellent reaction gifs in that thread, but special kudos for the  Silkwood shower scene. 

 
I am currently doing some work for a Senator and I had to sit through that whole ####### Sessions hearing today.  The only thing I can say about it that is interesting is that normally Senators, even if they are opposed on most issues, generally respect and get along with each other.  I can tell you with 100% certainty that Ted Cruz and Al Franken absolutely despise each other, I mean off camera death stares and the like.  When Franken was talking Cruz was making funny faces like he had to poop, like an angry poop clawing and scratching on the way out. 

I'm also all for free speech but the people disrupting the event in their dumb costumes should be given anal probes to make sure they aren't smuggling a bomb up their asses.  ####### morons. 

 
He's not really looking good here.
Assuming the Dems hold together, he needs one of McCain, Rubio, or Graham.  I didn't see anything in Rubio's questioning or Tillerson's answers that would lead you to believe Rubio is supporting him, but who knows how Rubio took it or how he'll ultimately vote.  

 
Assuming the Dems hold together, he needs one of McCain, Rubio, or Graham.  I didn't see anything in Rubio's questioning or Tillerson's answers that would lead you to believe Rubio is supporting him, but who knows how Rubio took it or how he'll ultimately vote.  
It's like the final tribal council on Survivor.

 
I do like Tillerson's comments on where we should stand in relationship with Russia, improving to at least a friendly adversary.

 
Directv doesn't have c-span 3. Any other channel this is on that won't cut away for the Trump press conference?

eta: Fox business sticking with Tillerson

 
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Whitehouse replied, with a leading, and perhaps slightly conclusory question: “And a secular person has just as good a claim to understanding the truth as a person who is religious, correct?”

At which point Sessions responded, “Well, I’m not sure.”
Sessions shouldn't even be allowed to judge a hog-calling contest.  What a fartbagger.  

 
TobiasFunke said:
Argument in favor of a return to the generic catch-all threads about candidates and presidents:

We need a place to make jokes about the new report that Trump's inauguration will have a "soft sensuality" to it.  

Link
It's the remix to Ignition

Bought and paid for two vixens

Now turn those bodies 'round

So I can see those emissions

 
President-elect Donald Trump's nominee (Rex Tillerson) to be US envoy to the world broke with his future boss on a number of key foreign policy issues on Wednesday, backing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, denouncing Russian aggression in cyberspace and Ukraine, and affirming his belief in climate change.

 
President-elect Donald Trump's nominee (Rex Tillerson) to be US envoy to the world broke with his future boss on a number of key foreign policy issues on Wednesday, backing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, denouncing Russian aggression in cyberspace and Ukraine, and affirming his belief in climate change.
ALways helpful to quote your sources because I'd love to read more of that article.

But that sounds like good stuff in general.  Specifically about Russia and climate change, and more generally about being willing to stand up to Trump.

 
ALways helpful to quote your sources because I'd love to read more of that article.

But that sounds like good stuff in general.  Specifically about Russia and climate change, and more generally about being willing to stand up to Trump.
I was reluctant to include the source because it is one of those fake news sites:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/11/politics/tillerson-confirmation-hearing/
Thanks...i like reading the full article whenever possible.  I'll do my best to be wary of that upstart CNN that we don't know anything about.

 
I guess I don't fully understand all the variables to confirmation. I'm told Sessions vote will be a lot closer than Tillerson. 

 
I guess I don't fully understand all the variables to confirmation. I'm told Sessions vote will be a lot closer than Tillerson. 
The longer your record in politics, the harder (generally) it is to get confirmed or go smoothly through these things.  The overwhelming majority of the time, they get through anyway, and barely anyone cares how close the vote actually was in the end.

So really, the main scorecard for these things are usually: how long is your career in politics, and use the inverse of that answer to indicate how difficult the confirmation is going to be.  But know in the end, the president almost always gets their pick of the cabinet.

 
I guess I don't fully understand all the variables to confirmation. I'm told Sessions vote will be a lot closer than Tillerson. 
I don't know how it will shake out, but I could see some Democrats supporting Tillerson, as he'd be the lone non-climate change denier in the cabinet.  I doubt Sessions will get crossover votes.

 
ACLU legal director's testimony on Sessions

Text of the full testimony here: The ACLU is a nonpartisan organization with a long-standing policy of neither endorsing nor opposing nominees for federal office. We rarely testify in confirmation hearings, as a result. We do so today because we believe Sen. Session’s record raises serious questions about the fitness of Sen. Sessions to be an Attorney General for all the American people. We take no position on how you should ultimately vote, but we urge you to painstakingly probe the many serious questions that his actions, words, and deeds raise about his commitment to civil rights and civil liberties. 

Concerns arise from his conduct as a prosecutor, and from his record as a senator. As a prosecutor, when he exercised the power to prosecute, the most pow - the most serious power that any government official of the United States exercises, he abused that power. Cornell Brooks has already talked about his prosecution, ultimately baseless, of civil rights heroes for seeking to increase the black vote in Alabama. He didn’t investigate those who sought to help White voters, but he did investigate and prosecute those who sought to aid Black voters. Many of the charges in that case were dismissed before they even went to the jury, because they were baseless. The jury then acquitted of all charges. 

In a second case, the Tyco  case, Sen. Sessions collaborated with campaign contributors to his senatorial campaign to use the office of the criminal prosecutor to intervene in a private business decision on behalf of his contributors. He filed a 222 count indictment against Tyco, a - a engineering supply serv - corporation. All charges in the case were dismissed. Many were dismissed because, again, they were baseless. There was no evidence whatsoever to support them.  The others were dismissed on grounds of prosecutorial misconduct, and the judge who dismissed them said that this was the worst case of prosecutorial misconduct he had seen in his career on the bench. Mr. Sessions’ successor, Mr. Prior  did not even appeal that decision. So those actions raise serious questions about his fitness to become the most powerful prosecutor in the land. 

Second, his record as a senator. Here he has shown blindness or outright hostility to the concerns of the people whose rights he would be responsible to protect. On voting rights, he supported felon disenfranchisement laws, and voter ID laws that suppress the Black vote. When the Supreme Court gutted the single most effective provision of the Civil Rights Act, the most important statute in getting African-Americans the right to vote in this country, Sen. Sessions called that “... a good day for the South.” 

On religious tolerance, he called Islam “a toxic ideology.” It is in fact a religion practiced by millions of Americans. Imagine if he called Christianity a toxic ideology. Now, he says he opposes the Muslim ban on entrance to the United States, but when Donald Trump proposed that, he stood up and opposed a resolution introduced here in the Senate to keep religion out of immigration decision. 

On women’s rights, now, he says that grabbing women’s genitals is sexual assault. But when Donald Trump’s tape recorded bragging about his doing precisely that was made public, Sen. Sessions said, and I quote, “I don’t characterize that as a sexual assault.” That’s a stretch. When he voted against extending the hate crimes law to crimes motivated by gender and sexual orientation, he said, and I quote, “I am not sure women or people with different sexual orientations face that kind of discrimination. I just don’t see it.” Well if you don’t see discrimination, you can’t very well enforce the laws against discrimination. 

On torture, he now says that torture - waterboarding is illegal. But he praised Michael Mukasey  for not ruling out waterboarding. And he opposed Sen. McCain’s amendment, which was designed to make it clear that waterboarding was illegal.

On criminal justice, he is an outlier, departing even with many of his Republican colleagues who seek to make the criminal justice system more fair and less harsh. 

If someone applying to intern for one of your offices had as many questions as Sen. Sessions has: racist comments, unethical conduct, padding of his resume, you would not hire him -- absent the most thorough investigation and inquiry, if then. Senator Sessions is not seeking to be an intern. He’s nominated to be the most powerful law enforcement officer in the nation. 

The Senate and, more importantly, the American people deserve satisfactory answers to these questions before Sessions is confirmed.
 
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So the picture on Capitol Hill portraying the cops as pigs......WTF is wrong with this country? Is there a thread for that I can vent in?

 
Watched some of the Tillerson hearing yesterday. Rubio was grilling him hard. If Rubio caves, I've lost all respect for him.

 
Watched some of the Tillerson hearing yesterday. Rubio was grilling him hard. If Rubio caves, I've lost all respect for him.
I don't agree with this and I fully expect Rubio to vote for him. I'm a Rubio fan and loved what he did yesterday, even though it was a bit of grandstanding, but I came away with respect for the way Tilleson handled himself during the exchanges and I'd imagine Rubio did too. I didn't expect Tilleson to say that Putin is a war criminal in that situation.

I will lose respect for Rubio if he doesn't vote for Tilleson.

 
I don't agree with this and I fully expect Rubio to vote for him. I'm a Rubio fan and loved what he did yesterday, even though it was a bit of grandstanding, but I came away with respect for the way Tilleson handled himself during the exchanges and I'd imagine Rubio did too. I didn't expect Tilleson to say that Putin is a war criminal in that situation.

I will lose respect for Rubio if he doesn't vote for Tilleson.
I just thought Rubio brought up good points about the SoS being the 2nd most important position in government. He seemed to really hammer Tillerson for not knowing general information. The not calling someone a war criminal thing doesn't bother me. It was when they would ask him things and he would say that he would wait until he received more information. Rubio basically told him none of the stuff he was asking was classified and that Tillerson should know these things.

 
I just thought Rubio brought up good points about the SoS being the 2nd most important position in government. He seemed to really hammer Tillerson for not knowing general information. The not calling someone a war criminal thing doesn't bother me. It was when they would ask him things and he would say that he would wait until he received more information. Rubio basically told him none of the stuff he was asking was classified and that Tillerson should know these things.
Rubio was putting him on the spot to make statements that are better left behind closed doors and not on the public record at this time. I don't expect Tilleson to have fully formed opinions on every subject at this point and Rubio, as a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, has a lot more information than does Tilleson. I'm not as up on what the intent of these confirmation hearings are about but I think the main takeaway should be to access an overall philosophy from the man and I think Tilleson came off very well. A startling contrast from his soon-to-be boss.

 
Watched some of the Tillerson hearing yesterday. Rubio was grilling him hard. If Rubio caves, I've lost all respect for him.
So grilling the CEO of a company that would make hundreds of billions if sanctions on Russia are lifted was bad?  Tilllerson shouldn't be anywhere near the SOS.

 
So grilling the CEO of a company that would make hundreds of billions if sanctions on Russia are lifted was bad?  Tilllerson shouldn't be anywhere near the SOS.
Oh I agree. I was saying if Rubio caved and said he approves, I would be very disappointed in Rubio.

 

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