Tush Push - still legal, Philly fans begin to heal after rough year (1 Viewer)

[trader jake]

Also, haha this is funny.

2022 - Eagles go to Super Bowl - NFL reviews the Tush Push
2023 - Eagles don't go to Super Bowl, nothing on the Tush Push
2024 - Eagles win the Super Bowl - One of the teams left in the wake of this victory officially calls for play to be banned

Your inability to see outside your own fandom is staggering.

Wanting the pushing of a ball carrier from behind banned isn't just about the freakin' Eagles. Nobody worth listening to would advocate a rule change solely because it would hurt one team.

If the NFL does the right thing and gets rid of this non-sense the Eagles should still be very successful on QB sneaks.

Just like good kickers still made a high percentage of extra points after the league amended the spot they are attempted from.

 

[renesauz]

Also, haha this is funny.

2022 - Eagles go to Super Bowl - NFL reviews the Tush Push
2023 - Eagles don't go to Super Bowl, nothing on the Tush Push
2024 - Eagles win the Super Bowl - One of the teams left in the wake of this victory officially calls for play to be banned

Your inability to see outside your own fandom is staggering.

Wanting the pushing of a ball carrier from behind banned isn't just about the freakin' Eagles. Nobody worth listening to would advocate a rule change solely because it would hurt one team.

If the NFL does the right thing and gets rid of this non-sense the Eagles should still be very successful on QB sneaks.

Just like good kickers still made a high percentage of extra points after the league amended the spot they are attempted from.

You still haven't presented a good reason for banning it other then you just don't like it. But you are correct here, the Eagles would still be enormously successful on regular old fashioned QB sneaks....for exactly the same reason they are so good with the tush push. They have massive O lineman and a QB with a strong lower body.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Also, haha this is funny.

2022 - Eagles go to Super Bowl - NFL reviews the Tush Push
2023 - Eagles don't go to Super Bowl, nothing on the Tush Push
2024 - Eagles win the Super Bowl - One of the teams left in the wake of this victory officially calls for play to be banned

Your inability to see outside your own fandom is staggering.

Wanting the pushing of a ball carrier from behind banned isn't just about the freakin' Eagles. Nobody worth listening to would advocate a rule change solely because it would hurt one team.

If the NFL does the right thing and gets rid of this non-sense the Eagles should still be very successful on QB sneaks.

Just like good kickers still made a high percentage of extra points after the league amended the spot they are attempted from.

You still haven't presented a good reason for banning it other then you just don't like it. But you are correct here, the Eagles would still be enormously successful on regular old fashioned QB sneaks....for exactly the same reason they are so good with the tush push. They have massive O lineman and a QB with a strong lower body.

The ONLY reason is that they’re good at it. If it were that simple to run, everyone would run it well

The Eagles were 11-for-11 on the QB sneak in 2017 --their Super Bowl winning season.

 

[Terpman22]

Also, haha this is funny.

2022 - Eagles go to Super Bowl - NFL reviews the Tush Push
2023 - Eagles don't go to Super Bowl, nothing on the Tush Push
2024 - Eagles win the Super Bowl - One of the teams left in the wake of this victory officially calls for play to be banned

Your inability to see outside your own fandom is staggering.

Wanting the pushing of a ball carrier from behind banned isn't just about the freakin' Eagles. Nobody worth listening to would advocate a rule change solely because it would hurt one team.

If the NFL does the right thing and gets rid of this non-sense the Eagles should still be very successful on QB sneaks.

Just like good kickers still made a high percentage of extra points after the league amended the spot they are attempted from.

Trader Jake - all I said is that the fact that when the Eagles get to the Super Bowl, the talk of the Tush Push to get banned happens and I found that funny/ironic.

Thats all I said here in this post you are responding too haha. This obviously is a bad subject for you to trigger this kind of reaction over a "haha" post.

 

[trader jake]

Also, haha this is funny.

2022 - Eagles go to Super Bowl - NFL reviews the Tush Push
2023 - Eagles don't go to Super Bowl, nothing on the Tush Push
2024 - Eagles win the Super Bowl - One of the teams left in the wake of this victory officially calls for play to be banned

Your inability to see outside your own fandom is staggering.

Wanting the pushing of a ball carrier from behind banned isn't just about the freakin' Eagles. Nobody worth listening to would advocate a rule change solely because it would hurt one team.

If the NFL does the right thing and gets rid of this non-sense the Eagles should still be very successful on QB sneaks.

Just like good kickers still made a high percentage of extra points after the league amended the spot they are attempted from.

Trader Jake - all I said is that the fact that when the Eagles get to the Super Bowl, the talk of the Tush Push to get banned happens and I found that funny/ironic.

Thats all I said here in this post you are responding too haha. This obviously is a bad subject for you to trigger this kind of reaction over a "haha" post.

It's all good Terpman. I'll have to update my notebook, tough to keep the rational Eagles fans separate from the greased-up pole climbers sometimes.

 

[Deamon]

Just like good kickers still made a high percentage of extra points after the league amended the spot they are attempted from.

it went from 99% to 93%. That's fairly significant.

 

[Terpman22]

AJ Dillon on Tush Push plays gonna be fun!

 

[JohnnyU]

AJ Dillon on Tush Push plays gonna be fun!

They need to sign Najeh Davenport to assist.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Also, haha this is funny.

2022 - Eagles go to Super Bowl - NFL reviews the Tush Push
2023 - Eagles don't go to Super Bowl, nothing on the Tush Push
2024 - Eagles win the Super Bowl - One of the teams left in the wake of this victory officially calls for play to be banned

Your inability to see outside your own fandom is staggering.

Wanting the pushing of a ball carrier from behind banned isn't just about the freakin' Eagles. Nobody worth listening to would advocate a rule change solely because it would hurt one team.

If the NFL does the right thing and gets rid of this non-sense the Eagles should still be very successful on QB sneaks.

Just like good kickers still made a high percentage of extra points after the league amended the spot they are attempted from.

Trader Jake - all I said is that the fact that when the Eagles get to the Super Bowl, the talk of the Tush Push to get banned happens and I found that funny/ironic.

Thats all I said here in this post you are responding too haha. This obviously is a bad subject for you to trigger this kind of reaction over a "haha" post.

It's all good Terpman. I'll have to update my notebook, tough to keep the rational Eagles fans separate from the greased-up pole climbers sometimes.

Your initial instincts were correct

 

[trader jake]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Also, haha this is funny.

2022 - Eagles go to Super Bowl - NFL reviews the Tush Push
2023 - Eagles don't go to Super Bowl, nothing on the Tush Push
2024 - Eagles win the Super Bowl - One of the teams left in the wake of this victory officially calls for play to be banned

Your inability to see outside your own fandom is staggering.

Wanting the pushing of a ball carrier from behind banned isn't just about the freakin' Eagles. Nobody worth listening to would advocate a rule change solely because it would hurt one team.

If the NFL does the right thing and gets rid of this non-sense the Eagles should still be very successful on QB sneaks.

Just like good kickers still made a high percentage of extra points after the league amended the spot they are attempted from.

Trader Jake - all I said is that the fact that when the Eagles get to the Super Bowl, the talk of the Tush Push to get banned happens and I found that funny/ironic.

Thats all I said here in this post you are responding too haha. This obviously is a bad subject for you to trigger this kind of reaction over a "haha" post.

It's all good Terpman. I'll have to update my notebook, tough to keep the rational Eagles fans separate from the greased-up pole climbers sometimes.

It’s like the Hulk’s great line - the secret is that there is no difference.

 

[travdogg]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Very "Cry me a river" vibes.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

1. This is still dumb. If the play was that much of a cheat code the Eagles woulda been playing the Bills in the Super Bowl. The blatant proof we collectively witnessed in the playoffs only serves to highlight the absurdity of such a ban.

2. The claim of “someone might get hurt” when to date no one of note has had any injury of note, yet when Patrick Mahomes attempted a regular old QB sneak & his own OL fell on him he tweaked his knee is such delicious irony it may sustain me for a month. Mmmmmmm

It’s such a “won’t someone think of the children?!” fallacy. Cmon.

No way 24 team owners vote for this. I’ll eat my Frank Gore jersey if they do.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Very "Cry me a river" vibes.

Maybe the league can propose to the Packers that they get their QB in the weight room. If Love could squat 600 lbs they wouldn’t have this problem.

 

[oldmanhawkins]

I haven't seen it speculated (I'm sure it has and I just missed it) but the AJ Dillon signing is in part a hedge in case this does go through.

 

[Terpman22]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

So, to be clear, it 100% is a rule designed 100% to stop the Eagles version of a QB sneak. Correct?

And correlation: The 2 times the Eagles have reached the Super Bowl over the past 3 years, 2x there has been a rule proposed to ban this play. The one time it was not was the year the Eagles did not go to the Super Bowl, correct?

Weird stuff. Curious to which/how many teams will vote for this.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Weird stuff. Curious to which/how many teams will vote for this.

Surprise twist: the Eagles will vote to ban it.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Weird stuff. Curious to which/how many teams will vote for this.

Surprised twist: the Eagles will vote to ban it.

Surprise, surprise twist: the tush push gets banned and the Eagles still convert QB sneaks at a 95% rate. In 2026, teams move to ban QB sneaks.

 

[JAA]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

lame

Why not just ban pushing players? Period. Why the nuance??

 

[Dickies]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

lame

Why not just ban pushing players? Period. Why the nuance??

Isn't this how it used to be?

 

[JAA]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

lame

Why not just ban pushing players? Period. Why the nuance??

Isn't this how it used to be?

Exactly

 

[wgoldsph]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

Curious how you didn't respond to any of the multiple posts about how the play has yet to cause /any/ injury when you seem to be the main proponent of banning the play.

So now that player safety is ruled out by years of data... What is the reason?

 

[renesauz]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

Curious how you didn't respond to any of the multiple posts about how the play has yet to cause /any/ injury when you seem to be the main proponent of banning the play.

So now that player safety is ruled out by years of data... What is the reason?

it's not a football play! It looks like rugby!

(completely ignoring the fact that football GREW OUT OF rugby)

 

[jasvic]

Just so I'm clear, no offensive player can push, but linebackers or anyone on defense can still launch themselves into the pile? What's the difference?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It's pretty wild to me that teams can just vote to eliminate a play that they lose to.

If Ljax runs for 1000+ again and the Ravens win the Super Bowl, can we just ban QBs from running past the LoS? As a Dolphins fan we don't benefit from QB runs anyway, so may as well. And unlike the push tush, banning QBs from running past the LoS would ACTUALLY reduce injuries on the league's marquee players.

I have no ties to the Eagles, but it seems like all of the potential reasons to get rid of this play have been exhausted and proven incredibly dumb.

1) Safety

- The stupidest argument of all. I think the data is clear at this point that this play does not increase injury likelihood (practically no injuries resulting from the play after 3 years). And logically it doesn't even make sense. Low impact plays are LESS injury prone, not more. That's why they don't even have to wear helmets in rugby. If anything, a RB getting a running start and slamming head first into the pile is much more likely to give people CTE brain.

2) It cheap/unfair/unstoppable

After 3 years, if the play were just unstoppable, every team in the league would be running it in every short yardage situation. But hardly any of them do, and most that try convert at a lower percentage than a normal short yardage play. Yes, there is one team that executes it well, but the same can be said over many multi-year spans about the deep pass, or running QBs, etc. And even for the team that executes it well, the conversion percentage is not significantly out of line with the typical conversion percentage of a short yardage play or QB sneak.

3) It's not pretty to look at

So what? Neither is a traditional QB sneak, or a run up the middle on 4th and inches. Short yardage plays aren't pretty to look at unless there is something tricky like play action etc, which can (and is) also be run out of the tush push formation.


I've evolved throughout the 3 years of this thread. I was willing to hear the argument. But at this point there's just nothing left, not a single salient point that makes any sense for cracking down on this compared to anything else that one team executes better.

 

[Terpman22]

They may have killed the political thread, but if you are dying for political arguments, still here, this is the thread for you. A bunch of folks arguing stuff they believe over proven factual data.

 

[sm8680]

I started out with a few lines and asked copilot to pretty it up. Here's Copilots response. "Enter the dream recruitment plan: Whenever the Eagles square off against the Green Bay Packers—the team notorious for spearheading efforts to ban the tush push—there must be a reinforcement. A one-week contract must be signed with a living legend, a human wall, someone who embodies immovable strength. Perhaps a descendant of William "The Refrigerator" Perry, a sumo wrestler with the grace of a mountain and the weight to match, or even a mythical being like the Abominable Snowman who could single-handedly strike fear into the hearts of defenders. The Packers wouldn't just face a team; they'd face an unstoppable force."

 

[Mitchie]

I really could care less but rooting for a ban just for the entertainment value of reading this thread afterwards.

 

[JohnnyU]

I really could care less but rooting for a ban just for the entertainment value of reading this thread afterwards.

So, you could care less? Personally, I couldn’t care less

 

[ChicoCat]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

lame

Why not just ban pushing players? Period. Why the nuance??

This.

Do away with pushing the pile or runner in the midle of the field if we're so worried about people getting pushed getting hurt playing football.

 

[Moonlight]

It's pretty wild to me that teams can just vote to eliminate a play that they lose to.

If Ljax runs for 1000+ again and the Ravens win the Super Bowl, can we just ban QBs from running past the LoS? As a Dolphins fan we don't benefit from QB runs anyway, so may as well. And unlike the push tush, banning QBs from running past the LoS would ACTUALLY reduce injuries on the league's marquee players.

I have no ties to the Eagles, but it seems like all of the potential reasons to get rid of this play have been exhausted and proven incredibly dumb.

1) Safety

- The stupidest argument of all. I think the data is clear at this point that this play does not increase injury likelihood (practically no injuries resulting from the play after 3 years). And logically it doesn't even make sense. Low impact plays are LESS injury prone, not more. That's why they don't even have to wear helmets in rugby. If anything, a RB getting a running start and slamming head first into the pile is much more likely to give people CTE brain.

2) It cheap/unfair/unstoppable

After 3 years, if the play were just unstoppable, every team in the league would be running it in every short yardage situation. But hardly any of them do, and most that try convert at a lower percentage than a normal short yardage play. Yes, there is one team that executes it well, but the same can be said over many multi-year spans about the deep pass, or running QBs, etc. And even for the team that executes it well, the conversion percentage is not significantly out of line with the typical conversion percentage of a short yardage play or QB sneak.

3) It's not pretty to look at

So what? Neither is a traditional QB sneak, or a run up the middle on 4th and inches. Short yardage plays aren't pretty to look at unless there is something tricky like play action etc, which can (and is) also be run out of the tush push formation.


I've evolved throughout the 3 years of this thread. I was willing to hear the argument. But at this point there's just nothing left, not a single salient point that makes any sense for cracking down on this compared to anything else that one team executes better.

Except it’s a rugby play that is ugly to look at.
To be fair I’m also not in favor of two or three offensive linemen pushing a running back into the end zone or for a first down.
I liked the old rules that permitted a runner to only gain what they earned from their own power.
When that rule was repealed it led to the tush push and more rugby like plays.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

It was illegal forever to assist a runner, wasn’t it?

 

[BladeRunner]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Well, it's literally a form of cheating, so there's that.

The Eagles will always have an asterisk next to their win. It's unfortunate, but what can you do?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It's pretty wild to me that teams can just vote to eliminate a play that they lose to.

If Ljax runs for 1000+ again and the Ravens win the Super Bowl, can we just ban QBs from running past the LoS? As a Dolphins fan we don't benefit from QB runs anyway, so may as well. And unlike the push tush, banning QBs from running past the LoS would ACTUALLY reduce injuries on the league's marquee players.

I have no ties to the Eagles, but it seems like all of the potential reasons to get rid of this play have been exhausted and proven incredibly dumb.

1) Safety

- The stupidest argument of all. I think the data is clear at this point that this play does not increase injury likelihood (practically no injuries resulting from the play after 3 years). And logically it doesn't even make sense. Low impact plays are LESS injury prone, not more. That's why they don't even have to wear helmets in rugby. If anything, a RB getting a running start and slamming head first into the pile is much more likely to give people CTE brain.

2) It cheap/unfair/unstoppable

After 3 years, if the play were just unstoppable, every team in the league would be running it in every short yardage situation. But hardly any of them do, and most that try convert at a lower percentage than a normal short yardage play. Yes, there is one team that executes it well, but the same can be said over many multi-year spans about the deep pass, or running QBs, etc. And even for the team that executes it well, the conversion percentage is not significantly out of line with the typical conversion percentage of a short yardage play or QB sneak.

3) It's not pretty to look at

So what? Neither is a traditional QB sneak, or a run up the middle on 4th and inches. Short yardage plays aren't pretty to look at unless there is something tricky like play action etc, which can (and is) also be run out of the tush push formation.


I've evolved throughout the 3 years of this thread. I was willing to hear the argument. But at this point there's just nothing left, not a single salient point that makes any sense for cracking down on this compared to anything else that one team executes better.

Except it’s a rugby play that is ugly to look at.
To be fair I’m also not in favor of two or three offensive linemen pushing a running back into the end zone or for a first down.
I liked the old rules that permitted a runner to only gain what they earned from their own power.
When that rule was repealed it led to the tush push and more rugby like plays.

And a traditional QB sneak isn't ugly to look at?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It was illegal forever to assist a runner, wasn’t it?

It was made legal in 2005 because it was difficult to officiate and was basically a controversy every time it was called. The rule change was supported by officials and teams alike and I don't believe there's a record of any team voting against the rule change.

 

[Mitchie]

I really could care less but rooting for a ban just for the entertainment value of reading this thread afterwards.

So, you could care less? Personally, I couldn’t care less

tomato tomoto

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

lame

Why not just ban pushing players? Period. Why the nuance??

That’s absolutely what the rule change should be

 

[Terpman22]

Here's the proposed rule NFL teams will vote on:

If passed, Rule 12, Section 1 would be amended to say, “No offensive player may . . . immediately at the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate, who was lined up directly behind the snapper and received the snap, to aid him in an attempt to gain yardage.”

Pushing the quarterback forward on a sneak would become a 10-yard penalty.

24 teams would need to cast a yes vote for the new rule to be instituted.

lame

Why not just ban pushing players? Period. Why the nuance??

That’s absolutely what the rule change should be

You are in the minority.

 

[renesauz]

It was illegal forever to assist a runner, wasn’t it?

eliminated the rule years ago because it was too hard to consistently enforce. Often a legit block attempt turns into at least partially pushing a runner forward.
Theis rule changed 10+ years ago, it isn't a new change

 

[Moonlight]

It's pretty wild to me that teams can just vote to eliminate a play that they lose to.

If Ljax runs for 1000+ again and the Ravens win the Super Bowl, can we just ban QBs from running past the LoS? As a Dolphins fan we don't benefit from QB runs anyway, so may as well. And unlike the push tush, banning QBs from running past the LoS would ACTUALLY reduce injuries on the league's marquee players.

I have no ties to the Eagles, but it seems like all of the potential reasons to get rid of this play have been exhausted and proven incredibly dumb.

1) Safety

- The stupidest argument of all. I think the data is clear at this point that this play does not increase injury likelihood (practically no injuries resulting from the play after 3 years). And logically it doesn't even make sense. Low impact plays are LESS injury prone, not more. That's why they don't even have to wear helmets in rugby. If anything, a RB getting a running start and slamming head first into the pile is much more likely to give people CTE brain.

2) It cheap/unfair/unstoppable

After 3 years, if the play were just unstoppable, every team in the league would be running it in every short yardage situation. But hardly any of them do, and most that try convert at a lower percentage than a normal short yardage play. Yes, there is one team that executes it well, but the same can be said over many multi-year spans about the deep pass, or running QBs, etc. And even for the team that executes it well, the conversion percentage is not significantly out of line with the typical conversion percentage of a short yardage play or QB sneak.

3) It's not pretty to look at

So what? Neither is a traditional QB sneak, or a run up the middle on 4th and inches. Short yardage plays aren't pretty to look at unless there is something tricky like play action etc, which can (and is) also be run out of the tush push formation.


I've evolved throughout the 3 years of this thread. I was willing to hear the argument. But at this point there's just nothing left, not a single salient point that makes any sense for cracking down on this compared to anything else that one team executes better.

Except it’s a rugby play that is ugly to look at.
To be fair I’m also not in favor of two or three offensive linemen pushing a running back into the end zone or for a first down.
I liked the old rules that permitted a runner to only gain what they earned from their own power.
When that rule was repealed it led to the tush push and more rugby like plays.

And a traditional QB sneak isn't ugly to look at?

At most only half as ugly and I’m being generous.

 

[Ruffrodys05]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Well, it's literally a form of cheating, so there's that.

The Eagles will always have an asterisk next to their win. It's unfortunate, but what can you do?

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the definition of "literally."

Cheating? Are you sure? Or are you just wish-casting?

No cheating. No asterisk. Just complete domination of the former champs.

By the way, over the last three years exactly ZERO injuries have occurred during the running of this play, by any team. This fact has been confirmed by the NFL's competition committee. So, that whole "injury risk" talking point, one of the main reasons for elimination of the play, is not even a salient point. In fact, it is one of the safer plays as players have no room to build up speed and collide even harder, which is what happens on all other plays.

 

[need2know]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Well, it's literally a form of cheating, so there's that.

The Eagles will always have an asterisk next to their win. It's unfortunate, but what can you do?

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the definition of "literally."

Cheating? Are you sure? Or are you just wish-casting?

No cheating. No asterisk. Just complete domination of the former champs.

By the way, over the last three years exactly ZERO injuries have occurred during the running of this play, by any team. This fact has been confirmed by the NFL's competition committee. So, that whole "injury risk" talking point, one of the main reasons for elimination of the play, is not even a salient point. In fact, it is one of the safer plays as players have no room to build up speed and collide even harder, which is what happens on all other plays.

Careful. Dont push back too hard on bladerunner. He will report you for hurting his feelings and try to get you suspended. Thats how he rolls. Also hes a giant hater. At one point if you looked at his posts, 99 percent of them were talking crap about the eagles. Actually you can still see them now if you look at his profile. Hes a sad man

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Also hes a giant hater

Like he hates the Giants? Or he’s a giant, and hates himself? Or he hates gigantically?

Language is hard.

 

[need2know]

Also hes a giant hater

Like he hates the Giants? Or he’s a giant, and hates himself? Or he hates gigantically?

Language is hard.

All of it

 

[BladeRunner]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Well, it's literally a form of cheating, so there's that.

The Eagles will always have an asterisk next to their win. It's unfortunate, but what can you do?

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the definition of "literally."

Cheating? Are you sure? Or are you just wish-casting?

No cheating. No asterisk. Just complete domination of the former champs.

By the way, over the last three years exactly ZERO injuries have occurred during the running of this play, by any team. This fact has been confirmed by the NFL's competition committee. So, that whole "injury risk" talking point, one of the main reasons for elimination of the play, is not even a salient point. In fact, it is one of the safer plays as players have no room to build up speed and collide even harder, which is what happens on all other plays.

Huh? Not cheating? Then how come the Oline can't just pick up the RB and start carrying him down the field? Or just pick up the QB and throw him over the line into the endzone? Or maybe they can and I'm unaware? Asteriks it is!

But, yeah, okay, NOT cheating.

 

[BladeRunner]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Well, it's literally a form of cheating, so there's that.

The Eagles will always have an asterisk next to their win. It's unfortunate, but what can you do?

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the definition of "literally."

Cheating? Are you sure? Or are you just wish-casting?

No cheating. No asterisk. Just complete domination of the former champs.

By the way, over the last three years exactly ZERO injuries have occurred during the running of this play, by any team. This fact has been confirmed by the NFL's competition committee. So, that whole "injury risk" talking point, one of the main reasons for elimination of the play, is not even a salient point. In fact, it is one of the safer plays as players have no room to build up speed and collide even harder, which is what happens on all other plays.

Careful. Dont push back too hard on bladerunner. He will report you for hurting his feelings and try to get you suspended. Thats how he rolls. Also hes a giant hater. At one point if you looked at his posts, 99 percent of them were talking crap about the eagles. Actually you can still see them now if you look at his profile. Hes a sad man

Huh? wut? Report people? I don't do that no matter how hard you gaslight and wish.

Is your MO just to make stuff up all the time based on your hurt feelings? Seems like it. Be better. Do better.

 

[need2know]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Well, it's literally a form of cheating, so there's that.

The Eagles will always have an asterisk next to their win. It's unfortunate, but what can you do?

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the definition of "literally."

Cheating? Are you sure? Or are you just wish-casting?

No cheating. No asterisk. Just complete domination of the former champs.

By the way, over the last three years exactly ZERO injuries have occurred during the running of this play, by any team. This fact has been confirmed by the NFL's competition committee. So, that whole "injury risk" talking point, one of the main reasons for elimination of the play, is not even a salient point. In fact, it is one of the safer plays as players have no room to build up speed and collide even harder, which is what happens on all other plays.

Careful. Dont push back too hard on bladerunner. He will report you for hurting his feelings and try to get you suspended. Thats how he rolls. Also hes a giant hater. At one point if you looked at his posts, 99 percent of them were talking crap about the eagles. Actually you can still see them now if you look at his profile. Hes a sad man

Huh? wut? Report people? I don't do that no matter how hard you gaslight and wish.

Is your MO just to make stuff up all the time based on your hurt feelings? Seems like it. Be better. Do better.

Keep that hate train going dude. You so good at it

 

[BladeRunner]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Well, it's literally a form of cheating, so there's that.

The Eagles will always have an asterisk next to their win. It's unfortunate, but what can you do?

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the definition of "literally."

Cheating? Are you sure? Or are you just wish-casting?

No cheating. No asterisk. Just complete domination of the former champs.

By the way, over the last three years exactly ZERO injuries have occurred during the running of this play, by any team. This fact has been confirmed by the NFL's competition committee. So, that whole "injury risk" talking point, one of the main reasons for elimination of the play, is not even a salient point. In fact, it is one of the safer plays as players have no room to build up speed and collide even harder, which is what happens on all other plays.

Careful. Dont push back too hard on bladerunner. He will report you for hurting his feelings and try to get you suspended. Thats how he rolls. Also hes a giant hater. At one point if you looked at his posts, 99 percent of them were talking crap about the eagles. Actually you can still see them now if you look at his profile. Hes a sad man

Huh? wut? Report people? I don't do that no matter how hard you gaslight and wish.

Is your MO just to make stuff up all the time based on your hurt feelings? Seems like it. Be better. Do better.

Keep that hate train going dude. You so good at it

No hate on my part. Just calling it like it is.

I know, it's a tough pill to swallow. No one wants to think their team skirts the rules and looks for loopholes to win, but it's undeniable. Your QB is literally getting assistance over the goal line. If it's legal, then why can't they just pick him up and throw him over it instead? Quite the conundrum you're in.

 

[eighsse2]

GB Packers: whiny snitches

Well, it's literally a form of cheating, so there's that.

The Eagles will always have an asterisk next to their win. It's unfortunate, but what can you do?

Don't want to pile on, but how can you say something that is allowed is cheating?